How Many Towns In California Have to Burn to The Ground Before Voters There Wake The Hell Up?

[OnePercenter]

It just hit me like a ton of rocks as I watched all the fires in California, how long before people there realize that their government is failing at its job?

Their power providers are expert at identifying how many LGBTQXREYZ they have on their payroll, but cannot manage to update and maintain their power grid? WTF?

They have people shitting in the middle of the streets, open gang warfare that their state government and city government protects with sanctuary laws, and they are seeing a return of diseases we have not seen since the Middle ages like Bubonic Plague!

OMG, how bad does it have to get before people start to vote the bastards out?

Instead, they keep voting for Dimocrats that make the problems worse and worse till they give up and move to another state and then start voting Dimocrat there too.

How many states have to be ruined before we all finally decide to ban the Dimocratic Party ion the interest of national security?

I do think the USA can survive a nuclear war, but I dont think it can survive another 20 years of Dimocratic stupidity.

Instead of being such a bitch, why don't you present some real answers. Be specific.

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[Yarddog]

Voters have no say in CA unless they are Democrat. Democrats have been fixing elections for decades that's how a cow like Pelosi keeps getting re-elected even though her very City (SF) lets vagrants poop in the streets.

Love how our rubes seem to be preoccupied with poop and gay sex.
Dead giveaway for zero college.
You think homeless people don't poop in Mississippi??

whoah ... whos preoccupied with poop? have you walked the streets of SF? its a health hazard, no joke. You have to step over people lying on the sidewalk... you don't know if they are OD'd, alive or dead. They can smash out your car window and the police wont come because they have too many calls, they can shoplift anything under $950 dollars and walk away... the police wont come, and wont arrest them even if they do come. Business owners in SF take the brunt of everything, including filth right in front of their shops. They cant make the people leave who get violent, the police have been told to back off. You don't need a college degree to see Pelosi and Co. are doing a lousy job for SF.

 

[Leo123]

Voters have no say in CA unless they are Democrat. Democrats have been fixing elections for decades that's how a cow like Pelosi keeps getting re-elected even though her very City (SF) lets vagrants poop in the streets.

You really are an ignoramus, a bigot and a damn liar.

Prove me wrong, and provide probative evidence to make anything you've posted in this post is true.

I know you got triggered but please, stop with the insults. You do nothing to support your POV that way.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Voters have no say in CA unless they are Democrat. Democrats have been fixing elections for decades that's how a cow like Pelosi keeps getting re-elected even though her very City (SF) lets vagrants poop in the streets.

You really are an ignoramus, a bigot and a damn liar.

Prove me wrong, and provide probative evidence to make anything you've posted in this post is true.

I know you got triggered but please, stop with the insults. You do nothing to support your POV that way.

My comments are not insults, they are based on your comments. And, you are being dishonest again, in not responding to my question to prove what I perceive as lies.

 

[Leo123]

My comments are not insults, they are based on your comments. And, you are being dishonest again, in not responding to my question to prove what I perceive as lies.

You called me a 'damn liar' because you disagreed with me. Do you suppose there would be any dialogue after such insults?

 

[OldLady]

Yeah, sure it is. At least you're admitting California wildfires have been happening regularly since at least 1950 and not just since 2013 when the environmentalists said not to clean out the power lines.

The difference is in the scale of the fire that results, not some quantification of occurances, OL.

If a fire is found and put out in a small area that is qualitatively better than if it gets out of control.

How many acres have burned to the ground in California since 1950?

View attachment 287561

THAT is where the change is, OL.

Edit: First chart is California only, the second is all the USA wildfires.

You don't think the recent droughts have anything to do with the increased fire damage? Wiki:
Throughout history, California has experienced many droughts, such as 1841, 1864, 1924, 1928–1935, 1947–1950, 1959–1960, 1976–1977, 2006–2010, and 2011–2017.[1]

 

[OldLady]

In high risk areas, "California law requires that homeowners in SRA clear out flammable materials such as brush or vegetation around their buildings to 100 feet (or the property line) to create a defensible space buffer. "

Secondly, it's 12% humidity in L.A. right now. Even in NorCal, we haven't had any rain to speak of since June, the floors of the forest are dry af, the days are hot, and it's hecka windy. I saw someone post about how they don't have fires in Michigan where it rains all summer and it's basically a cold-ass swamp, because they do forest management. Lol

In addition, the sun does not shine in Michigan.

Its shining right now. Not a bit yesterday though

Yeah? Are you in that area? I I was there in the early 90's. We had lake effect snow every single day in the winter, along with the normal blizzard-like storms. Summer was rainy and gray. So was the fall. Maybe there was a sunny day in the spring one time. I had a beautiful home there, on a beautiful lot. But that weather, man was it depressing.

I was wondering how climate change may have affected that area since I lived there. More sunshine?

I grew up on Lake Ontario--Rochester. You described it perfectly!

 

[Olde Europe]

PGE was directly responsible for the Camp/Paradise fire almost exactly a year ago exactly because they didn't do their due diligent maintenance. A transmission tower that was sixty-eight years old started it. That tower was already there when we were BORN.

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your drool, ya knuckledragging retard.

Don't you love how on one hand they cry and whine about "socialist" California and on the other hand they cry and whine about a big profit-making corporation?

Funnier still, they urge everyone to vote laissez-faire socialists out, and big-government, tight-regulation Goobers in to remedy corporate malfeasance.

 

[sparky]

Fires aren't partisan

They burn all parties

~S~

 

[Olde Europe]

Fires aren't partisan[.]

They burn all parties[.]

~S~

Is that so, Sparky? Are parties literally combustible?

As to "partisan", shouldn't we rather look at the causation, as opposed to the effects? Say, if we found one side argues science and facts to deal with fires so as to keep them reasonably in check in the long term, and live with the naturally occurring phenomenon while reducing harm, whereas the other argues faith-based bullshit for political gain, leaving communities vulnerable, would that change your assessment?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Do not be surprised if California turns red next election.

People all over the state are suffering from democrat policies. Don't count on their loyalty.

 

[Pogo]

What's wrong here is PG&E is a public utility, which means they need to make a profit for their stock holders, they have not updated, repaired or replaced their electrical and natural gas transmission lines.

Wry Catcher

Are you getting addled in your old age and retirement?

You are FLAT OUT LYING blaming PG&E.

Let's put some sugar on this ...

Wry Catcher What percentage of your CalPERS retirement you recieve is based on PG&E stock?

Let me answer that for you .... 19.5%

Are you willing to give up 19.5% of your retirement income?

Ya know, 'You got yours'...

FACT: PG&E's sixty-eight year old 115kV transmission line blew up in the early morning of November 8 2018 in a canyon below Camp Creek Road (hence the name "Camp Fire") which then spread with the wind and its own firestorm-generated wind and destroyed the town of Paradise before that afternoon That's already on the record and admitted by PG&E.

That's got zero to do with frickin' "Democrats", frickin' "Liburruls", frickin' "treehuggers", frickin' "wetbacks", frickin' "uppity negroes", frickin' "commies", frickin' "raking" or whatever else you cockamamie partisan hack yahoos choose to name as Emmanuel Goldstein of the Week this week, K?? Fer FUCK'S SAKE GET A GRIP.

LOL I so missed you, Pogo. Glad you're back.

what?....Pogo were you doing time in the corn field?....

I'll have you know I have always been out standing in my field

I walked out during the summer after a moderator ran amok.

 

[Wry Catcher]

My comments are not insults, they are based on your comments. And, you are being dishonest again, in not responding to my question to prove what I perceive as lies.

You called me a 'damn liar' because you disagreed with me. Do you suppose there would be any dialogue after such insults?

There is no dialogue, a dialogue requires mutual respect.

 

[Pogo]

These are the 20 largest wildfires in California since 1932 (when accurate records started to be kept), according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE).[........look at how many this century compared to last.....

Name County Acres Hectares Start date Structures Deaths Notes
Matilija Ventura 220,000 89,030 September 1932 0 0
Laguna San Diego 175,425 70,992.0 September 1970 382 8
Marble Cone Monterey 177,866 71,979.8 July 1977 0 0
Stanislaus Complex Tuolumne 145,980 59,076.0 August 1987 28 1
Big Bar Complex Trinity 140,948 57,039.6 August 1999 0 0
McNally Tulare 150,696 60,984.5 July 2002 17 0
Cedar San Diego 273,246 110,578.7 October 2003 2,820 15
Day Ventura 162,702 65,843.2 September 2006 11 0
Zaca Santa Barbara 240,207 97,208.3 July 2007 1 0
Witch San Diego 197,990 80,123.7 October 2007 1,650 2
Klamath Theater Complex Siskiyou 192,038 77,715.0 June 2008 0 2
Basin Complex Monterey 162,818 65,890.1 June 2008 58 0
Station Los Angeles 160,557 64,975.1 August 2009 209 2
Rush Lassen 271,911 110,038.5 August 2012 1 0 This fire burned an additional 43,666 acres (17,671.0 ha) in Nevada, for a total of 315,577 acres (127,709.5 ha).[7][8]
Rim Tuolumne 257,314 104,131.3 August 2013 112 0
Rough Fresno 151,623 61,359.7 July 2015 4 0
Thomas Ventura, Santa Barbara 281,893 114,078.0 December 2017 1,063 23 (2 Direct, 21 Indirect) Fatalities attributed to the fire include 1 firefighter and 1 civilian directly, 21 deaths in later mudslides.[6]
Mendocino Complex Mendocino, Lake, Colusa, Glenn 459,123 185,800.5 July 2018 280 1 The Ranch Fire by itself, at 410,203 acres (100% contained) as of 19 September 2018, is the largest fire in California history. 1 firefighter died.[5]
Carr Shasta, Trinity 229,651 92,936.5 July 2018 1,604 8
Camp Butte 153,336 62,052.9 November 2018 18,804 86

87 years, presumably not including the current one.
Three last year alone, more than any previous year; eight in the last decade.

But, "nothin' to see here, move along..."

 

[Pogo]

What's wrong here is PG&E is a public utility, which means they need to make a profit for their stock holders, they have not updated, repaired or replaced their electrical and natural gas transmission lines.

Wry Catcher

Are you getting addled in your old age and retirement?

You are FLAT OUT LYING blaming PG&E.

Let's put some sugar on this ...

Wry Catcher What percentage of your CalPERS retirement you recieve is based on PG&E stock?

Let me answer that for you .... 19.5%

Are you willing to give up 19.5% of your retirement income?

Ya know, 'You got yours'...

FACT: PG&E's sixty-eight year old 115kV transmission line blew up in the early morning of November 8 2018 in a canyon below Camp Creek Road (hence the name "Camp Fire") which then spread with the wind and its own firestorm-generated wind and destroyed the town of Paradise before that afternoon That's already on the record and admitted by PG&E.

That's got zero to do with frickin' "Democrats", frickin' "Liburruls", frickin' "treehuggers", frickin' "wetbacks", frickin' "uppity negroes", frickin' "commies", frickin' "raking" or whatever else you cockamamie partisan hack yahoos choose to name as Emmanuel Goldstein of the Week this week, K?? Fer FUCK'S SAKE GET A GRIP.

LOL I so missed you, Pogo. Glad you're back.

Thanks, you Maineac

 

[Rustic]

My comments are not insults, they are based on your comments. And, you are being dishonest again, in not responding to my question to prove what I perceive as lies.

You called me a 'damn liar' because you disagreed with me. Do you suppose there would be any dialogue after such insults?

There is no dialogue, a dialogue requires mutual respect.

Getting along as way overrated

 

[Rustic]

These are the 20 largest wildfires in California since 1932 (when accurate records started to be kept), according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE).[........look at how many this century compared to last.....

Name County Acres Hectares Start date Structures Deaths Notes
Matilija Ventura 220,000 89,030 September 1932 0 0
Laguna San Diego 175,425 70,992.0 September 1970 382 8
Marble Cone Monterey 177,866 71,979.8 July 1977 0 0
Stanislaus Complex Tuolumne 145,980 59,076.0 August 1987 28 1
Big Bar Complex Trinity 140,948 57,039.6 August 1999 0 0
McNally Tulare 150,696 60,984.5 July 2002 17 0
Cedar San Diego 273,246 110,578.7 October 2003 2,820 15
Day Ventura 162,702 65,843.2 September 2006 11 0
Zaca Santa Barbara 240,207 97,208.3 July 2007 1 0
Witch San Diego 197,990 80,123.7 October 2007 1,650 2
Klamath Theater Complex Siskiyou 192,038 77,715.0 June 2008 0 2
Basin Complex Monterey 162,818 65,890.1 June 2008 58 0
Station Los Angeles 160,557 64,975.1 August 2009 209 2
Rush Lassen 271,911 110,038.5 August 2012 1 0 This fire burned an additional 43,666 acres (17,671.0 ha) in Nevada, for a total of 315,577 acres (127,709.5 ha).[7][8]
Rim Tuolumne 257,314 104,131.3 August 2013 112 0
Rough Fresno 151,623 61,359.7 July 2015 4 0
Thomas Ventura, Santa Barbara 281,893 114,078.0 December 2017 1,063 23 (2 Direct, 21 Indirect) Fatalities attributed to the fire include 1 firefighter and 1 civilian directly, 21 deaths in later mudslides.[6]
Mendocino Complex Mendocino, Lake, Colusa, Glenn 459,123 185,800.5 July 2018 280 1 The Ranch Fire by itself, at 410,203 acres (100% contained) as of 19 September 2018, is the largest fire in California history. 1 firefighter died.[5]
Carr Shasta, Trinity 229,651 92,936.5 July 2018 1,604 8
Camp Butte 153,336 62,052.9 November 2018 18,804 86

87 years, presumably not including the current one.
Three last year alone, more than any previous year; eight in the last decade.

But, "nothin' to see here, move along..."

Crazy Cali belongs to Mexico

 

[Pogo]

In high risk areas, "California law requires that homeowners in SRA clear out flammable materials such as brush or vegetation around their buildings to 100 feet (or the property line) to create a defensible space buffer. "

Secondly, it's 12% humidity in L.A. right now. Even in NorCal, we haven't had any rain to speak of since June, the floors of the forest are dry af, the days are hot, and it's hecka windy. I saw someone post about how they don't have fires in Michigan where it rains all summer and it's basically a cold-ass swamp, because they do forest management. Lol

In addition, the sun does not shine in Michigan.

That's enough of your asinine posts.
Permanent Ignore.

Hey pal, I lived there for about 2 years. Southwest Lower Michigan. The sun most definitely DID NOT shine.

Nor does it ever shine in England either.

I was touring Oxford and saw this sundial, and asked the tour guide why anyone would ever make such a thing in England.

EVERYONE laughed at that remark.

Yyyyyeeeahhhh ummm.... they were laughing AT you, not with you. Much like we do.

I spent all of one week in England. It was sunny every day.

 

[Roudy]

It just hit me like a ton of rocks as I watched all the fires in California, how long before people there realize that their government is failing at its job?

Their power providers are expert at identifying how many LGBTQXREYZ they have on their payroll, but cannot manage to update and maintain their power grid? WTF?

They have people shitting in the middle of the streets, open gang warfare that their state government and city government protects with sanctuary laws, and they are seeing a return of diseases we have not seen since the Middle ages like Bubonic Plague!

OMG, how bad does it have to get before people start to vote the bastards out?

Instead, they keep voting for Dimocrats that make the problems worse and worse till they give up and move to another state and then start voting Dimocrat there too.

How many states have to be ruined before we all finally decide to ban the Dimocratic Party ion the interest of national security?

I do think the USA can survive a nuclear war, but I dont think it can survive another 20 years of Dimocratic stupidity.

Look at what happened to Venezuela. Once these Leftists take over, it's like cancer, they won't let go until they kill the organism from within. They will not stop at anything until the job is finished, including giving voting rights to illegals and criminals. It starts with states like CA and NY and spreads across the country. It isn't a coincidence that the impeach 45 crusade has senators and congresspersons from CA and NY in leadership roles.

 

[Pogo]

Yeah, sure it is. At least you're admitting California wildfires have been happening regularly since at least 1950 and not just since 2013 when the environmentalists said not to clean out the power lines.

The difference is in the scale of the fire that results, not some quantification of occurances, OL.

If a fire is found and put out in a small area that is qualitatively better than if it gets out of control.

How many acres have burned to the ground in California since 1950?

View attachment 287561

THAT is where the change is, OL.

Edit: First chart is California only, the second is all the USA wildfires.

You don't think the recent droughts have anything to do with the increased fire damage? Wiki:
Throughout history, California has experienced many droughts, such as 1841, 1864, 1924, 1928–1935, 1947–1950, 1959–1960, 1976–1977, 2006–2010, and 2011–2017.[1]

Three years ago at this time we were having fires erupting all over the place even here in the wettest part of Appalachia, because of the same reason --- drought, a sudden abnormal one. Some mornings looked like thick fog because of smoke from fire a hundred miles away. One road to the south was closed for weeks because it was on fire. I had smoke inside the house just because it was everywhere; you could look straight at the sun and not see it. As in California, fires visible from space.

And that was only a drought of about two months. Desert California gets that for seven and with way lower humidity.

Clearly the fault of 'Democrats'/'Soshulists'/'liburruls'/'duh left'/'Pergressives'. I mean it couldn't be clearer.