HRC opens a 12 point lead over Dangerous Donnie

[Redfish]

odds for hillary being our next president have been going up steadily fyi

If HRC wins get ready for USEXIT.

 

[NYcarbineer]

WSJ/NBC Poll: Trump, Clinton Essentially Tied


Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is holding his own against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News Poll despite a very rocky two weeks.

She leads him by 5 percentage points but they are essentially tied when third-party candidates are included, the survey reported. The poll of 1,000 registered voters showed Clinton leading 46 percent to 41 percent in a head-to-head matchup.

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WSJ/NBC Poll: Trump, Clinton Essentially Tied

They are within the margin of error, taking this poll with every poll since the 19th of May shows Clinton leading. Could change, safe to say at this moment Clinton is the clear front runner.

do you understand that the margin of error is a calculation done by the pollsters?

the real margin of error in such a tiny sample is more like 50%.

Then why don't we ever see a major final poll in the presidential elections miss by 50%?

 

[Valerie]

If HRC wins get ready for USEXIT.

derrp

 

[NYcarbineer]

odds for hillary being our next president have been going up steadily fyi

If HRC wins get ready for USEXIT.

Promise?

 

[rightwinger]

OK, representative demographics.

The pollsters claim that they proportionally represent every demographic in the US.

So, lets just look at retired voters and see how many demographics we can come up with. OK?

retired voters"
white
black
Asian
mixed
very rich
moderately rich
comfortably rich
struggling financially
poor
on welfare
on food stamps
Christian
Jew
Muslim
atheist
republican
democrat
independent
southern
northern
mid western
west coast
northeast
healthy
sick
gun owner
gun hater
with children
without children
live in cities
live in rural areas
live abroad
renters
home owners
active
inactive

Just for starters on one demographic, then we can have combinations of all the categories listed.

Now, you are going to tell me that a sample of 1000 contains proportional representations of every demographic in the USA? Its bullshit, total unadulterated bullshit.

You are a statistical moron

when defeated by facts, hurl insults-------------brilliant post, idiot.

No, seriously

You are a statistical moron

 

[Redfish]

More SKEWED demographics...... You would have thought they learned last week when they tried the same thing....making note that a NBCWSJ poll came out the same time with Clinton up by ONE point well within the MOE.... Thanks Manchurian Republican JakeAss for revealing yourself even more than you normally do!

There are more registered Democrats than registered Republicans, the polls are not unfairly skewed, they are accurately representing the populous.

When the poll has 20+ % skewed it does!

Given the overwhelming lack of enthusiasm for Trump among mainstream Republicans, there could be huge advantage in turnout for the Democrats.

Funny, since Trump is winning with independents and Bernie voters. and in light of the fact that there were more votes for him in the GOP primaries than ever before.

The American people are fed up with the establishment pukes in both parties. The dem turnout will be the smallest ever, HRC is a terrible candidate and a terrible human being.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Funny, since indepedents are falling away from Trump and Sanders' voters toward HRC

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 46, Trump 41 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 51, Trump 39 Clinton +12
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 39, Trump 38, Johnson 10, Stein 6 Clinton +1
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 40, Trump 39 Clinton +1
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 44, Trump 41 Clinton +3
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 41, Trump 36 Clinton +5
North Carolina: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Trump 42, Clinton 44 Clinton +2

 

[Redfish]

OK, representative demographics.

The pollsters claim that they proportionally represent every demographic in the US.

So, lets just look at retired voters and see how many demographics we can come up with. OK?

retired voters"
white
black
Asian
mixed
very rich
moderately rich
comfortably rich
struggling financially
poor
on welfare
on food stamps
Christian
Jew
Muslim
atheist
republican
democrat
independent
southern
northern
mid western
west coast
northeast
healthy
sick
gun owner
gun hater
with children
without children
live in cities
live in rural areas
live abroad
renters
home owners
active
inactive

Just for starters on one demographic, then we can have combinations of all the categories listed.

Now, you are going to tell me that a sample of 1000 contains proportional representations of every demographic in the USA? Its bullshit, total unadulterated bullshit.

You are a statistical moron

when defeated by facts, hurl insults-------------brilliant post, idiot.

No, seriously

You are a statistical moron

No, seriously. I understand math and stat to a level beyond your comprehension.

But, you are free to believe the propaganda if you choose. I don't give a shit what you believe.

 

[Redfish]

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 46, Trump 41 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 51, Trump 39 Clinton +12
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 39, Trump 38, Johnson 10, Stein 6 Clinton +1
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 47, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 3 Clinton +10
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 40, Trump 39 Clinton +1
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 44, Trump 41 Clinton +3
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 41, Trump 36 Clinton +5
North Carolina: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Trump 42, Clinton 44 Clinton +2

Pay me to do a poll and I will produce one in each of those places that shows Trump winning by 40%. Follow the money, fool.

 

[rightwinger]

OK, representative demographics.

The pollsters claim that they proportionally represent every demographic in the US.

So, lets just look at retired voters and see how many demographics we can come up with. OK?

retired voters"
white
black
Asian
mixed
very rich
moderately rich
comfortably rich
struggling financially
poor
on welfare
on food stamps
Christian
Jew
Muslim
atheist
republican
democrat
independent
southern
northern
mid western
west coast
northeast
healthy
sick
gun owner
gun hater
with children
without children
live in cities
live in rural areas
live abroad
renters
home owners
active
inactive

Just for starters on one demographic, then we can have combinations of all the categories listed.

Now, you are going to tell me that a sample of 1000 contains proportional representations of every demographic in the USA? Its bullshit, total unadulterated bullshit.

You are a statistical moron

when defeated by facts, hurl insults-------------brilliant post, idiot.

No, seriously

You are a statistical moron

No, seriously. I understand math and stat to a level beyond your comprehension.

But, you are free to believe the propaganda if you choose. I don't give a shit what you believe.

Too funny

You have a third grade understanding of statistics. No other explanation of why you make the posts you do

 

[JakeStarkey]

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 46, Trump 41 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 51, Trump 39 Clinton +12
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 39, Trump 38, Johnson 10, Stein 6 Clinton +1
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 47, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 3 Clinton +10
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 40, Trump 39 Clinton +1
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 44, Trump 41 Clinton +3
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 41, Trump 36 Clinton +5
North Carolina: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Trump 42, Clinton 44 Clinton +2

Pay me to do a poll and I will produce one in each of those places that shows Trump winning by 40%. Follow the money, fool.

Sure you would: your dishonest.

Show us how the methodology above is dishonest. You can't.

You simply do not comprehend statistical and probability analysis.

 

[Redfish]

OK, representative demographics.

The pollsters claim that they proportionally represent every demographic in the US.

So, lets just look at retired voters and see how many demographics we can come up with. OK?

retired voters"
white
black
Asian
mixed
very rich
moderately rich
comfortably rich
struggling financially
poor
on welfare
on food stamps
Christian
Jew
Muslim
atheist
republican
democrat
independent
southern
northern
mid western
west coast
northeast
healthy
sick
gun owner
gun hater
with children
without children
live in cities
live in rural areas
live abroad
renters
home owners
active
inactive

Just for starters on one demographic, then we can have combinations of all the categories listed.

Now, you are going to tell me that a sample of 1000 contains proportional representations of every demographic in the USA? Its bullshit, total unadulterated bullshit.

You are a statistical moron

when defeated by facts, hurl insults-------------brilliant post, idiot.

No, seriously

You are a statistical moron

No, seriously. I understand math and stat to a level beyond your comprehension.

But, you are free to believe the propaganda if you choose. I don't give a shit what you believe.

Too funny

You have a third grade understanding of statistics. No other explanation of why you make the posts you do

your stupidity knows no bounds. please look up "representative sample size" then look up "random sample" then look up "adjusted random sample" then look up "proportionally adjusted sample".

I'm sorry, but I am not here to be your instructor. You are free to post ignorant bullshit.

 

[Redfish]

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 46, Trump 41 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 51, Trump 39 Clinton +12
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 39, Trump 38, Johnson 10, Stein 6 Clinton +1
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 47, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 3 Clinton +10
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 40, Trump 39 Clinton +1
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 44, Trump 41 Clinton +3
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 41, Trump 36 Clinton +5
North Carolina: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Trump 42, Clinton 44 Clinton +2

Pay me to do a poll and I will produce one in each of those places that shows Trump winning by 40%. Follow the money, fool.

Sure you would: your dishonest.

Show us how the methodology above is dishonest. You can't.

You simply do not comprehend statistical and probability analysis.

I understand those concepts much better than you do. All I am telling you is that the pollsters are not following the mathematical rules of statistics. They have created formulas to make their sampling easier, I get that. But if you do the math, the margin of error is much greater than they advertise, they claim 3% when its really more like 20%.

 

[NYcarbineer]

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 46, Trump 41 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 51, Trump 39 Clinton +12
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 39, Trump 38, Johnson 10, Stein 6 Clinton +1
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 47, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 3 Clinton +10
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 40, Trump 39 Clinton +1
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 44, Trump 41 Clinton +3
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 41, Trump 36 Clinton +5
North Carolina: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Trump 42, Clinton 44 Clinton +2

Pay me to do a poll and I will produce one in each of those places that shows Trump winning by 40%. Follow the money, fool.

Trump hasn't won a poll since May 16th. are you trying to argue that every major polling operation in the US is biased against Trump?

BTW, the last poll Trump won?

The ABC/Washington Post poll. Yes, the same pollster Trumpbots like you are now calling biased.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Redfish, you have no idea and are only throwing words around you don't understand.

Show us how exactly ALL of the polls are wron.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

‘As toxic as we’ve seen’: Top Republicans are avoiding Trump’s convention like the plague
Most up-and-coming politicians would love to have a prime time speaking slot at a major party convention. This year, however, prominent Republicans are avoiding the Republican National Convention.

 

[NYcarbineer]

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 46, Trump 41 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 51, Trump 39 Clinton +12
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 39, Trump 38, Johnson 10, Stein 6 Clinton +1
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein ABC News/Wash Post Clinton 47, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 3 Clinton +10
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 40, Trump 39 Clinton +1
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 44, Trump 41 Clinton +3
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Clinton 41, Trump 36 Clinton +5
North Carolina: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/YouGov Trump 42, Clinton 44 Clinton +2

Pay me to do a poll and I will produce one in each of those places that shows Trump winning by 40%. Follow the money, fool.

Sure you would: your dishonest.

Show us how the methodology above is dishonest. You can't.

You simply do not comprehend statistical and probability analysis.

I understand those concepts much better than you do. All I am telling you is that the pollsters are not following the mathematical rules of statistics. They have created formulas to make their sampling easier, I get that. But if you do the math, the margin of error is much greater than they advertise, they claim 3% when its really more like 20%.

Again, why are the final polls almost all win a few points, if their margins of error are 20% or more?

 

[Redfish]

Redfish, you have no idea and are only throwing words around you don't understand.

Show us how exactly ALL of the polls are wron.

I never said that they were coming up with the wrong result. My only point is that they are not following the mathematical laws of statistics.

Yes, they guess right most of the time. But to claim that they have any significance in June about the November election is bunk.

 

[NYcarbineer]

More SKEWED demographics...... You would have thought they learned last week when they tried the same thing....making note that a NBCWSJ poll came out the same time with Clinton up by ONE point well within the MOE.... Thanks Manchurian Republican JakeAss for revealing yourself even more than you normally do!

There are more registered Democrats than registered Republicans, the polls are not unfairly skewed, they are accurately representing the populous.

When the poll has 20+ % skewed it does!

Given the overwhelming lack of enthusiasm for Trump among mainstream Republicans, there could be huge advantage in turnout for the Democrats.

Funny, since Trump is winning with independents and Bernie voters. and in light of the fact that there were more votes for him in the GOP primaries than ever before.

The American people are fed up with the establishment pukes in both parties. The dem turnout will be the smallest ever, HRC is a terrible candidate and a terrible human being.

You have a poll showing Trump winning with Bernie voters?

 

[Lakhota]

Go Hillary!!!!!