Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 shows no benefit and more deaths in VA study

[ABikerSailor]

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died, too, but the difference between that group and those receiving usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.
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Researchers did not track side effects but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs. The drug has long been known to have potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.

Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 shows no benefit and more deaths in VA study

President Trump has frequently touted the malaria drug as a potential breakthrough in the ongoing coronavirus fight.

www.marketwatch.com

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But its not peer reviewed. Facts are facts, tramp should of never recommended it for days and days endless times, he quit talking about it a few days ago, I wonder why??

wow 28% died...So 72% of the rest lived. Maybe those 28% were so wasted away, due to Dope smoking, Vape smoking, TB(thank Mexico for bringing that back) or just lack of hygiene that we know many on the left doesnt follow. I find it amazing that a liberal, who is such a worthless piece of excrement will always blow out of proportions a good thing, all in the name of propaganda to bring this president down.

You are a full blown idiot and obviously didn't read the OP's article, because if you had, you would have seen that these trials were taking place at VA hospitals, for VETERANS who have served this country and are now eligible for care via the VA. Nice demagogue though. There wasn't a single fact, just a whole bunch of false assumptions in your post.

And yeah, when the government wants to test things on people, one of the first groups they go to is the military or the VA.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You're actually going to cite the VA as a credible source?

The source isn't the VA, dummy.

 

[Muhammed]

its real value appears to reside within its potential as a prophylaxis..

False. There is not a single shred of evidence for that.

Do you have any proof that there isn't a single shed of evidence that it has potential as a prophylactic, or did you just pull that out of your ass?

The Ministry of Health in India is now officially recommending the use of HCQS as a prophylactic for all medical professionals who are treating patients with COVID-19.

But you're not the type to ask yourself what they know that you don't and research the matter to find out. You're the type who prefers to remain ignorant.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Well, if it was a choice between definite death and taking hydroxychloriquine as the last best hope, I'd give it a shot.

I do appreciate Trump inspiring various possible solutions rather than the absolute no hope scenarios so popular with Democrat Party sad sacks and death mongers.

What other solutions has Trump offered up other than the malaria drug? I've never heard him say ANYTHING about plasma transfusions (shows definite promise), nor has he mentioned any of the other drugs like Restovir, which has also been showing promise for a treatment.

Interestingly enough, some doctors are turning towards death penalty drugs as possible treatment.

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[eagle1462010]

Gilead got smacked down by the Gov't.............and then removed it's orphan status..........

Gilead asks FDA to take back lucrative orphan drug status on possible coronavirus treatment

The FDA agreed to the withdrawal, and said it is actively working to speed development of medical products desperately needed to prevent or treat the highly contagious COVID-19 illness caused by the virus. The company was criticized by lawmakers and patient advocates after receiving the orphan...

news.yahoo.com

These are the ongoing studies for the drug Gilead is pushing.

ClinicalTrials.gov

clinicaltrials.gov

Gilead Clinical trials

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Read the latest news about Gilead's work in COVID-19, HIV, viral hepatitis, cancer and other areas.

www.gilead.com

 

[Death-Ninja]

Oops, yes it is

False. You presented not a shred of evidence of the prophylactic effect you claimed. Nor will you, because there isn't any. But what you will do is throw a childish little hissy fit and try to waste my time with irrelevant links to articles you never read and don't understand.

I would attempt to explain the difference between in vitro and in vivo, but we both know you are too stupid to understand it. But know that the one, single study in that breitbart article merely suggested it was worth studying in vivo.

But again, you never read the article anyway.

I am only quoting above retard for posterity, and value to children confused by his idiocy and deception, see how the room temperature IQ frames my original reply to thread topic? He declares "Moi" claimed something I did not, specifically he implies two things I failed to do, provide substantiation, and then frames such in cloud of obfuscation, as if I "claimed" something dis-proven, such is a naked lie! Here is my original post again made available for posterity, in it you will notice I made no claims at all, I simply pointed out that drug had "apparent" value greater as prophylactic, than front line treatment for Wuhan flu! Do you see how such creature roll, they are liars and deceivers, he goes as far as stupidly declaring my failure to read words written in links I posted, indeed he has done this repeatedly over previous days, again such is a naked lie....

Checkmate..... Its never been considered effective against advanced cases, moreover, its real value "appears" to reside within its "potential" as a prophylaxis.... thus many many front line caregivers take it specifically as a prophylactic!

See how the low IQ rolls..... Checkmate......

 

[eagle1462010]

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died, too, but the difference between that group and those receiving usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.
snip
Researchers did not track side effects but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs. The drug has long been known to have potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.

Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 shows no benefit and more deaths in VA study

President Trump has frequently touted the malaria drug as a potential breakthrough in the ongoing coronavirus fight.

www.marketwatch.com

------------------------------------------------

But its not peer reviewed. Facts are facts, tramp should of never recommended it for days and days endless times, he quit talking about it a few days ago, I wonder why??

wow 28% died...So 72% of the rest lived. Maybe those 28% were so wasted away, due to Dope smoking, Vape smoking, TB(thank Mexico for bringing that back) or just lack of hygiene that we know many on the left doesnt follow. I find it amazing that a liberal, who is such a worthless piece of excrement will always blow out of proportions a good thing, all in the name of propaganda to bring this president down.

You are a full blown idiot and obviously didn't read the OP's article, because if you had, you would have seen that these trials were taking place at VA hospitals, for VETERANS who have served this country and are now eligible for care via the VA. Nice demagogue though. There wasn't a single fact, just a whole bunch of false assumptions in your post.

And yeah, when the government wants to test things on people, one of the first groups they go to is the military or the VA.

Thousands of NY COVID patients are being treated with anti-malarial drug

As many as 4,000 seriously ill coronavirus patients in New York are being treated with the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine, state health officials say. President Trump has touted hydroxychlor…

nypost.com

They have been testing it on the front lines all over the world.

The OP is a hit piece by Gilead.............

Show me the study............SHOW ME THE STUDY RESULTS...........

I've given the site that shows them.............YOU CAN'T SHOW ME.......BECAUSE NO STUDY ON THIS HAS BEEN RELEASED YET.

More FAKE ass news brought to you by a Pharma company wanting it's drug to win.

Lovely...........fucking lovely.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Do you have any proof that there isn't a single shed of evidence that it has potential as a prophylactic, or did you just pull that out of your ass?

Haha, now its, "potential". Since running into me you sure have started to hedge your language. We will call that progress.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Oops, yes it is

False. You presented not a shred of evidence of the prophylactic effect you claimed. Nor will you, because there isn't any. But what you will do is throw a childish little hissy fit and try to waste my time with irrelevant links to articles you never read and don't understand.

I would attempt to explain the difference between in vitro and in vivo, but we both know you are too stupid to understand it. But know that the one, single study in that breitbart article merely suggested it was worth studying in vivo.

But again, you never read the article anyway.

I am only quoting above retard for posterity, and value to children confused by his idiocy and deception, see how the room temperature IQ frames my original reply to thread topic? He declares "Moi" claimed something I did not, specifically he implies two things I failed to do, provide substantiation, and then frames such in cloud of obfuscation, as if I "claimed" something dis-proven, such is a naked lie! Here is my original post again made available for posterity, in it you will notice I made no claims at all, I simply pointed out that drug had "apparent" value greater as prophylactic, than front line treatment for Wuhan flu! Do you see how such creature roll, they are liars and deceivers, he goes as far as stupidly declaring my failure to read words written in links I posted, indeed he has done this repeatedly over previous days, again such is a naked lie....

Checkmate..... Its never been considered effective against advanced cases, moreover, its real value "appears" to reside within its "potential" as a prophylaxis.... thus many many front line caregivers take it specifically as a prophylactic!

See how the low IQ rolls..... Checkmate......

And you produced not a shred of evidence of that. And even if you had, that would be reason to conduct trials, not to promote the drug as effective. Get that through your skull.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Ministry of Health in India is now officially recommending the use of HCQS as a prophylactic for all medical professionals who are treating patients with COVID-19.

which, obviously, is a silly political decision, and not a scientific one. If this is shown not to demonstrate any effectiveness -- which seems likely -- look for the indian leaders to blame some people and prosecute them.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, if the study was ran by the VA in their hospitals, I think that the data they have gathered on it is pretty sound. The VA (at least when I've dealt with them), has been pretty decent in their care, and the people running it genuinely seem to care.

 

[eagle1462010]

You know, if the study was ran by the VA in their hospitals, I think that the data they have gathered on it is pretty sound. The VA (at least when I've dealt with them), has been pretty decent in their care, and the people running it genuinely seem to care.

Show me the Clinical trial

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You know, if the study was ran by the VA in their hospitals, I think that the data they have gathered on it is pretty sound. The VA (at least when I've dealt with them), has been pretty decent in their care, and the people running it genuinely seem to care.

Show me the Clinical trial

The link is in the Fox News article that was posted. Maybe if you actually read a link once in a while before commenting on it, you would already have known this.

 

[Muhammed]

Do you have any proof that there isn't a single shed of evidence that it has potential as a prophylactic, or did you just pull that out of your ass?

Haha, now its, "potential". Since running into me you sure have started to hedge your language. We will call that progress.

I'm not hedging anything. You are dodging the question.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You are dodging the question.

Because it was a stupid question. The evidence of my claim that there is no evidence is the fact that there isn't any. Don't believe me? Go find some. See you in...never.

The first clinical trials of drugs for their effectiveness against covid 19 are happening now. So, professor, explain to us how this scientific evidence could already exist. Have a time machine, do ya?

 

[Jitss617]

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died, too, but the difference between that group and those receiving usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.
snip
Researchers did not track side effects but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs. The drug has long been known to have potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.

Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 shows no benefit and more deaths in VA study

President Trump has frequently touted the malaria drug as a potential breakthrough in the ongoing coronavirus fight.

www.marketwatch.com

------------------------------------------------

But its not peer reviewed. Facts are facts, tramp should of never recommended it for days and days endless times, he quit talking about it a few days ago, I wonder why??

Fake news! We don’t know when
The patient got the treatment was it already to late? Go away losers

 

[dcbl]

this is not new information, we had already heard, through the "anecdotal evidence" that this drug would not help once a patient got into the critical stage, but it does reduce the chances of getting that bad if caught early enough

if the Chinese Virus is caught quickly enough & the HCQ is given early enough, it absolutely helps people

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

if the Chinese Virus is caught quickly enough & the HCQ is given early enough, it absolutely helps people

You have absolutely not a shred of good evidence of that. You are just spreading the myth.

 

[XponentialChaos]

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died, too, but the difference between that group and those receiving usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.
snip
Researchers did not track side effects but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs. The drug has long been known to have potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.

Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 shows no benefit and more deaths in VA study

President Trump has frequently touted the malaria drug as a potential breakthrough in the ongoing coronavirus fight.

www.marketwatch.com

------------------------------------------------

But its not peer reviewed. Facts are facts, tramp should of never recommended it for days and days endless times, he quit talking about it a few days ago, I wonder why??

Fake news! We don’t know when
The patient got the treatment was it already to late? Go away losers

It's also provided by Fox News.

 

[Jitss617]

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died, too, but the difference between that group and those receiving usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.
snip
Researchers did not track side effects but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs. The drug has long been known to have potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.

Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 shows no benefit and more deaths in VA study

President Trump has frequently touted the malaria drug as a potential breakthrough in the ongoing coronavirus fight.

www.marketwatch.com

------------------------------------------------

But its not peer reviewed. Facts are facts, tramp should of never recommended it for days and days endless times, he quit talking about it a few days ago, I wonder why??

Fake news! We don’t know when
The patient got the treatment was it already to late? Go away losers

It's also provided by Fox News.

The data doesn’t show much information. Thanks for holding people die to try to prove trump wrong. Sick