Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) Thread

My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.

Yes. If you take drugs at nearly TWICE the recommended dosage, bad things can happen.

It's breathtaking, how truly ghoulish you cretins are. I mean that.


that's not what my sister's doctor said. any amt would kill her.

That might be true but that doesn't mean that no one should get the drug because of your sister. I mean what kind of idiotic reasoning is that? Some people are allergic to morphine. So no one gets morphine?

This board is unbelievable sometimes
I asked you days ago where in America are these drugs being denied and am still waiting for an answer. Have you had time for research? As far as I know, people in this country have access to all the drugs in question with approval from their doctor. So, where in America are Americans being denied access?

That's not even the point of this thread. The point, in case you missed it, is Leftist and their media gaslighting everyone about the drugs, how awful and dangerous they are.

Because TRUMP TOUTED THEM

That's how insane your side is

No. No one is saying how awful and dangerous they are. They are saying it's unwise for the person who leads the country and isn't a doctor or medical professional stand up and tout these drugs as treatments or cures for Covid-19 when the research doesn't support it. Doctors have been able to prescribe these drugs when they feel its necessary for a while now. If their patients are infected with the virus, it's within their power to prescribe these drugs as a treatment. And they've shown promise in treating those already infected with the virus...and had the unintended consequence of creating shortages of the drugs for people who need them for other conditions. The Brazilian study was a very small sample size. It will take months maybe even years of clinical data and research to determine whether these proper treatments for the virus.

The game is: we're supposed to pretend you really care about any of this.

Not today. Not tomorrow either. I doubt you give a rip about any of this. What you DO care about is Trump succeed in something. Even if it means dying people are dissuaded from taking a drug that could save their lives.

I'll leave you to that. It's your problem. It sure as crap ain't mine.
 
My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.

Yes. If you take drugs at nearly TWICE the recommended dosage, bad things can happen.

It's breathtaking, how truly ghoulish you cretins are. I mean that.


that's not what my sister's doctor said. any amt would kill her.

That might be true but that doesn't mean that no one should get the drug because of your sister. I mean what kind of idiotic reasoning is that? Some people are allergic to morphine. So no one gets morphine?

This board is unbelievable sometimes
I asked you days ago where in America are these drugs being denied and am still waiting for an answer. Have you had time for research? As far as I know, people in this country have access to all the drugs in question with approval from their doctor. So, where in America are Americans being denied access?

The politifarce article claims this did not happen, while

"On March 23, Cuomo signed an executive order restricting the prescription of chloroquine "except when written as prescribed for an FDA-approved indication; or as part of a state approved clinical trial related to COVID-19 for a patient who has tested positive for COVID-19.""

Proving it happened... Leftists ALWAYS lie.
Access was not denied. A doctor needed to only follow protocols and register the patient as part of a trial study. Registering meant automatic monitoring by specific specialists, including heart specialists. Restricting to protocols is not banning use.

Again not the point: how many times do I have to say this? The NYT and you dunderheaded Leftists are dragging this drug because Trump touted it. Even though it has demonstrably saved lives.

Let that sink in
Note, you are unable to show a single example of any of these drugs being denied to anyone. The media did an excellent job warning America about Trump's irresponsible comments and investigating possible medical quackery.
 
My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.

Yes. If you take drugs at nearly TWICE the recommended dosage, bad things can happen.

It's breathtaking, how truly ghoulish you cretins are. I mean that.


that's not what my sister's doctor said. any amt would kill her.

That might be true but that doesn't mean that no one should get the drug because of your sister. I mean what kind of idiotic reasoning is that? Some people are allergic to morphine. So no one gets morphine?

This board is unbelievable sometimes
I asked you days ago where in America are these drugs being denied and am still waiting for an answer. Have you had time for research? As far as I know, people in this country have access to all the drugs in question with approval from their doctor. So, where in America are Americans being denied access?

That's not even the point of this thread. The point, in case you missed it, is Leftist and their media gaslighting everyone about the drugs, how awful and dangerous they are.

Because TRUMP TOUTED THEM

That's how insane your side is

No. No one is saying how awful and dangerous they are. They are saying it's unwise for the person who leads the country and isn't a doctor or medical professional stand up and tout these drugs as treatments or cures for Covid-19 when the research doesn't support it. Doctors have been able to prescribe these drugs when they feel its necessary for a while now. If their patients are infected with the virus, it's within their power to prescribe these drugs as a treatment. And they've shown promise in treating those already infected with the virus...and had the unintended consequence of creating shortages of the drugs for people who need them for other conditions. The Brazilian study was a very small sample size. It will take months maybe even years of clinical data and research to determine whether these proper treatments for the virus.

The game is: we're supposed to pretend you really care about any of this.

Not today. Not tomorrow either. I doubt you give a rip about any of this. What you DO care about is Trump succeed in something. Even if it means dying people are dissuaded from taking a drug that could save their lives.

I'll leave you to that. It's your problem. It sure as crap ain't mine.

And there's the rub isn't it? After all your prattling about your religion and your false claims of the drug being denied and demonized by the evil Leftist media, your only goal here is to prop Trump up. Yow. Dispense the miracle cure, send everyone back to work, let Trump hold his pep rallies. and hopefully, he'll get re-elected.

Oh yeah and, Donald Trump, the media, or Frosty the Snowman don't dissuade or prevent people from taking the drugs. Doctor's prescribe the drugs if they feel it's necessary. They've been able to do this for a while.
 
It's amazing how bothered people get by other peoples choices. I wonder how those same people would feel if Trump were against using hydroxychloroquine and Fauci was for using it? I suspect a lot of these chirpers would be singing a different tune.
 
What do Trump haters do when they see an interview like this woman saying she might not be alive had Trump not pushed the use of this drug?
Your whiny loaded question aside, what rational, educated people do is file it in the "anecdote" file and understand it is not good evidence.
/——/ Here is one of the oldest studies from the Lancet, 2003
Nov 01, 2003 · Apart from its well-known antimalarial effects, the drug has interesting biochemical properties that might be applied against some viral infections. Chloroquine exerts direct antiviral effects, inhibiting pH-dependent steps of the replication of several viruses including members of the flaviviruses, retroviruses, and coronaviruses.
 
What do Trump haters do when they see an interview like this woman saying she might not be alive had Trump not pushed the use of this drug?
Your whiny loaded question aside, what rational, educated people do is file it in the "anecdote" file and understand it is not good evidence.
/——/ Here is one of the oldest studies from the Lancet, 2003
Nov 01, 2003 · Apart from its well-known antimalarial effects, the drug has interesting biochemical properties that might be applied against some viral infections. Chloroquine exerts direct antiviral effects, inhibiting pH-dependent steps of the replication of several viruses including members of the flaviviruses, retroviruses, and coronaviruses.
Okay.

So, why do you suppose we dont just use it for all viruses? There are thousands.
 
What do Trump haters do when they see an interview like this woman saying she might not be alive had Trump not pushed the use of this drug?
Your whiny loaded question aside, what rational, educated people do is file it in the "anecdote" file and understand it is not good evidence.
/——/ Here is one of the oldest studies from the Lancet, 2003
Nov 01, 2003 · Apart from its well-known antimalarial effects, the drug has interesting biochemical properties that might be applied against some viral infections. Chloroquine exerts direct antiviral effects, inhibiting pH-dependent steps of the replication of several viruses including members of the flaviviruses, retroviruses, and coronaviruses.
Okay.

So, why do you suppose we dont just use it for all viruses? There are thousands.
/——-/ Well apparently the only virus that matters is the Coronavirus, even flues that are 10 times worse are being ignored.
 
My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.

Yes. If you take drugs at nearly TWICE the recommended dosage, bad things can happen.

It's breathtaking, how truly ghoulish you cretins are. I mean that.


that's not what my sister's doctor said. any amt would kill her.

That might be true but that doesn't mean that no one should get the drug because of your sister. I mean what kind of idiotic reasoning is that? Some people are allergic to morphine. So no one gets morphine?

This board is unbelievable sometimes
I asked you days ago where in America are these drugs being denied and am still waiting for an answer. Have you had time for research? As far as I know, people in this country have access to all the drugs in question with approval from their doctor. So, where in America are Americans being denied access?

The politifarce article claims this did not happen, while

"On March 23, Cuomo signed an executive order restricting the prescription of chloroquine "except when written as prescribed for an FDA-approved indication; or as part of a state approved clinical trial related to COVID-19 for a patient who has tested positive for COVID-19.""

Proving it happened... Leftists ALWAYS lie.
Access was not denied. A doctor needed to only follow protocols and register the patient as part of a trial study. Registering meant automatic monitoring by specific specialists, including heart specialists. Restricting to protocols is not banning use.

Again not the point: how many times do I have to say this? The NYT and you dunderheaded Leftists are dragging this drug because Trump touted it. Even though it has demonstrably saved lives.

Let that sink in
Note, you are unable to show a single example of any of these drugs being denied to anyone. The media did an excellent job warning America about Trump's irresponsible comments and investigating possible medical quackery.

This thread is not about people being denied access, for the last time. It's about you ghouls doing your utmost to discredit this life-saving drug because Orange Man Bad recommended it.

That's on you. It's not on me
 
My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.

Yes. If you take drugs at nearly TWICE the recommended dosage, bad things can happen.

It's breathtaking, how truly ghoulish you cretins are. I mean that.


that's not what my sister's doctor said. any amt would kill her.

That might be true but that doesn't mean that no one should get the drug because of your sister. I mean what kind of idiotic reasoning is that? Some people are allergic to morphine. So no one gets morphine?

This board is unbelievable sometimes
I asked you days ago where in America are these drugs being denied and am still waiting for an answer. Have you had time for research? As far as I know, people in this country have access to all the drugs in question with approval from their doctor. So, where in America are Americans being denied access?

That's not even the point of this thread. The point, in case you missed it, is Leftist and their media gaslighting everyone about the drugs, how awful and dangerous they are.

Because TRUMP TOUTED THEM

That's how insane your side is

No. No one is saying how awful and dangerous they are. They are saying it's unwise for the person who leads the country and isn't a doctor or medical professional stand up and tout these drugs as treatments or cures for Covid-19 when the research doesn't support it. Doctors have been able to prescribe these drugs when they feel its necessary for a while now. If their patients are infected with the virus, it's within their power to prescribe these drugs as a treatment. And they've shown promise in treating those already infected with the virus...and had the unintended consequence of creating shortages of the drugs for people who need them for other conditions. The Brazilian study was a very small sample size. It will take months maybe even years of clinical data and research to determine whether these proper treatments for the virus.

The game is: we're supposed to pretend you really care about any of this.

Not today. Not tomorrow either. I doubt you give a rip about any of this. What you DO care about is Trump succeed in something. Even if it means dying people are dissuaded from taking a drug that could save their lives.

I'll leave you to that. It's your problem. It sure as crap ain't mine.

And there's the rub isn't it? After all your prattling about your religion and your false claims of the drug being denied and demonized by the evil Leftist media, your only goal here is to prop Trump up. Yow. Dispense the miracle cure, send everyone back to work, let Trump hold his pep rallies. and hopefully, he'll get re-elected.

Oh yeah and, Donald Trump, the media, or Frosty the Snowman don't dissuade or prevent people from taking the drugs. Doctor's prescribe the drugs if they feel it's necessary. They've been able to do this for a while.

You are looking at my motives though YOUR lens, not mine. I don't give a rip who recommended the drug: Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump. I DON'T CARE. If it works and save lives, it works and saves lives. YOU and your decrepit media want to discredit it for political reasons because that's the state of YOUR soul, which you then project on me.

Some of us really, truly do not operate like that.
 
My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.

Yes. If you take drugs at nearly TWICE the recommended dosage, bad things can happen.

It's breathtaking, how truly ghoulish you cretins are. I mean that.


that's not what my sister's doctor said. any amt would kill her.

That might be true but that doesn't mean that no one should get the drug because of your sister. I mean what kind of idiotic reasoning is that? Some people are allergic to morphine. So no one gets morphine?

This board is unbelievable sometimes
I asked you days ago where in America are these drugs being denied and am still waiting for an answer. Have you had time for research? As far as I know, people in this country have access to all the drugs in question with approval from their doctor. So, where in America are Americans being denied access?

That's not even the point of this thread. The point, in case you missed it, is Leftist and their media gaslighting everyone about the drugs, how awful and dangerous they are.

Because TRUMP TOUTED THEM

That's how insane your side is

No. No one is saying how awful and dangerous they are. They are saying it's unwise for the person who leads the country and isn't a doctor or medical professional stand up and tout these drugs as treatments or cures for Covid-19 when the research doesn't support it. Doctors have been able to prescribe these drugs when they feel its necessary for a while now. If their patients are infected with the virus, it's within their power to prescribe these drugs as a treatment. And they've shown promise in treating those already infected with the virus...and had the unintended consequence of creating shortages of the drugs for people who need them for other conditions. The Brazilian study was a very small sample size. It will take months maybe even years of clinical data and research to determine whether these proper treatments for the virus.

The game is: we're supposed to pretend you really care about any of this.

Not today. Not tomorrow either. I doubt you give a rip about any of this. What you DO care about is Trump succeed in something. Even if it means dying people are dissuaded from taking a drug that could save their lives.

I'll leave you to that. It's your problem. It sure as crap ain't mine.

And there's the rub isn't it? After all your prattling about your religion and your false claims of the drug being denied and demonized by the evil Leftist media, your only goal here is to prop Trump up. Yow. Dispense the miracle cure, send everyone back to work, let Trump hold his pep rallies. and hopefully, he'll get re-elected.

Oh yeah and, Donald Trump, the media, or Frosty the Snowman don't dissuade or prevent people from taking the drugs. Doctor's prescribe the drugs if they feel it's necessary. They've been able to do this for a while.

You are looking at my motives though YOUR lens, not mine. I don't give a rip who recommended the drug: Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump. I DON'T CARE. If it works and save lives, it works and saves lives. YOU and your decrepit media want to discredit it for political reasons because that's the state of YOUR soul, which you then project on me.

Some of us really, truly do not operate like that.

Except no one has. And you've been able to so far provide no links that back your statement up.
 
My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.

Yes. If you take drugs at nearly TWICE the recommended dosage, bad things can happen.

It's breathtaking, how truly ghoulish you cretins are. I mean that.


that's not what my sister's doctor said. any amt would kill her.

That might be true but that doesn't mean that no one should get the drug because of your sister. I mean what kind of idiotic reasoning is that? Some people are allergic to morphine. So no one gets morphine?

This board is unbelievable sometimes
I asked you days ago where in America are these drugs being denied and am still waiting for an answer. Have you had time for research? As far as I know, people in this country have access to all the drugs in question with approval from their doctor. So, where in America are Americans being denied access?

The politifarce article claims this did not happen, while

"On March 23, Cuomo signed an executive order restricting the prescription of chloroquine "except when written as prescribed for an FDA-approved indication; or as part of a state approved clinical trial related to COVID-19 for a patient who has tested positive for COVID-19.""

Proving it happened... Leftists ALWAYS lie.
Access was not denied. A doctor needed to only follow protocols and register the patient as part of a trial study. Registering meant automatic monitoring by specific specialists, including heart specialists. Restricting to protocols is not banning use.

Again not the point: how many times do I have to say this? The NYT and you dunderheaded Leftists are dragging this drug because Trump touted it. Even though it has demonstrably saved lives.

Let that sink in
Note, you are unable to show a single example of any of these drugs being denied to anyone. The media did an excellent job warning America about Trump's irresponsible comments and investigating possible medical quackery.

This thread is not about people being denied access, for the last time. It's about you ghouls doing your utmost to discredit this life-saving drug because Orange Man Bad recommended it.

That's on you. It's not on me
You sound paranoid people are critical of Trump for nefarious reasons. Like, educated doctors who criticize him and his drug comments or opinions are only trying to hurt him. None of them really cares about patients and Doctor stuff. Doctors, who disagree with Trump are just evil?
 
^ more like you're an idiot for posting that.

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You seem to have missed the latest memo. The above is currently spelled this way:

"What do they have to lose?"
 
My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.


I don't recall Trump saying Drs should DOUBLE the recommended dosage.

Sounds like a Brazilian whack job study.
 
My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.

Yes. If you take drugs at nearly TWICE the recommended dosage, bad things can happen.

It's breathtaking, how truly ghoulish you cretins are. I mean that.


that's not what my sister's doctor said. any amt would kill her.
Then she has other issues.
 
Brazile has gubmint run healthcare, so it's no surprise it is a clusterfuck.
 
My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.

Yes. If you take drugs at nearly TWICE the recommended dosage, bad things can happen.

It's breathtaking, how truly ghoulish you cretins are. I mean that.


that's not what my sister's doctor said. any amt would kill her.

That might be true but that doesn't mean that no one should get the drug because of your sister. I mean what kind of idiotic reasoning is that? Some people are allergic to morphine. So no one gets morphine?

This board is unbelievable sometimes
I asked you days ago where in America are these drugs being denied and am still waiting for an answer. Have you had time for research? As far as I know, people in this country have access to all the drugs in question with approval from their doctor. So, where in America are Americans being denied access?

That's not even the point of this thread. The point, in case you missed it, is Leftist and their media gaslighting everyone about the drugs, how awful and dangerous they are.

Because TRUMP TOUTED THEM

That's how insane your side is
We could argue that you guys are touting the drug because Trump touted it.
Or because it has shown promise. We KNOW why you oppose it, hack.
 
My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.

Yes. If you take drugs at nearly TWICE the recommended dosage, bad things can happen.

It's breathtaking, how truly ghoulish you cretins are. I mean that.


that's not what my sister's doctor said. any amt would kill her.

That might be true but that doesn't mean that no one should get the drug because of your sister. I mean what kind of idiotic reasoning is that? Some people are allergic to morphine. So no one gets morphine?

This board is unbelievable sometimes
I asked you days ago where in America are these drugs being denied and am still waiting for an answer. Have you had time for research? As far as I know, people in this country have access to all the drugs in question with approval from their doctor. So, where in America are Americans being denied access?

The politifarce article claims this did not happen, while

"On March 23, Cuomo signed an executive order restricting the prescription of chloroquine "except when written as prescribed for an FDA-approved indication; or as part of a state approved clinical trial related to COVID-19 for a patient who has tested positive for COVID-19.""

Proving it happened... Leftists ALWAYS lie.
Access was not denied. A doctor needed to only follow protocols and register the patient as part of a trial study. Registering meant automatic monitoring by specific specialists, including heart specialists. Restricting to protocols is not banning use.

Again not the point: how many times do I have to say this? The NYT and you dunderheaded Leftists are dragging this drug because Trump touted it. Even though it has demonstrably saved lives.

Let that sink in
Note, you are unable to show a single example of any of these drugs being denied to anyone. The media did an excellent job warning America about Trump's irresponsible comments and investigating possible medical quackery.
What is irresponsible about saying it is showing promise and should be tested?
 
My best wishes to the participants in this study. I hope their hearts are working properly again soon and I hope we continue to try to find cures for this horrible coronavirus.

Yes. If you take drugs at nearly TWICE the recommended dosage, bad things can happen.

It's breathtaking, how truly ghoulish you cretins are. I mean that.


that's not what my sister's doctor said. any amt would kill her.

There are some people that can't take the drug. If they have heart issues and a couple of other things. That is why it is prescription only and only given in doses.

It's like all the drug commercials when they list the side effects and who can and can't take the medication they are trying to sell you. You have to weigh the risk vs. the alleviating symptoms.

Not all medications are for everyone, doesn't mean the drug is bad, it means it is bad for you.
 

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