I don't get the logic of trying to restrict Muslims already here

[BULLDOG]

He said globally and your argument was US. The vast majority of global terrorism is Muslim. We are trying to prevent that from happening here.

And when you post that "Right-Wing Extremists are a Bigger Threat to America than ISIS," you're clearly identifying yourself as an extremist idiot ideologue who will believe anything

So you want to implement restrictions here for things that aren't happening here? My link was for what happens on our own soil. You don't think that should be our major concern?

What restrictions are you referring to? And what things aren't happening on our soil?

You're talking to someone who thinks conservatives are a greater terrorist threat than Muslim extremists. BULLSHIT is not playing with a full deck. I think he actually only has the three of clubs

White supremacists are a bigger terrorist threat on American soil than anyone else. That is a fact that you can't disprove.

You drool a lot, don't you?

Still floundering.

 

[kaz]

He said globally and your argument was US. The vast majority of global terrorism is Muslim. We are trying to prevent that from happening here.

And when you post that "Right-Wing Extremists are a Bigger Threat to America than ISIS," you're clearly identifying yourself as an extremist idiot ideologue who will believe anything

So you want to implement restrictions here for things that aren't happening here? My link was for what happens on our own soil. You don't think that should be our major concern?

I'm against registering Muslims, you fucking moron. Read the OP, idiot.

And my choices are that I have to be for a Muslim registry or I have to think Right Wingers are a bigger threat than Muslims. You really are a fucking moron, BULLSHIT

I can't determine what choices you feel you need to make, but on our soil, white supremacists commit more terrorist acts than anyone else by a long shot. Do with that bit of information what you will, but you can't deny that it's true.

How do you know that when the Obama administration was categorizing San Bernardino as "workplace violence" and Orlando as a "hate crime?" You don't know how many Muslim terrorist acts there were.

The only way you can get that is by starting the clock after 9/11 and doing like Obama and pretending Muslim attacks for religion aren't Muslim attacks for religion.

And if you want to split hairs, you didn't say that, you said they are a bigger "threat" than Muslim extremists, which is total loon

You're floundering now. What happens on our soil is always a bigger concern than anything else.

Yes, and clearly Muslims are a greater threat to anyone who isn't an idiot, who is knowledgeable of the world around them and isn't a partisan hack.

You are none of those. You are an idiot, you are not knowledgeable of the world around you and you are totally a partisan hack. Spend some time in Europe. I was there for several of the attacks. Even the surrender monkeys are getting it through their thick heads. So far you have remained unaffected by knowledge and awareness of the threat of Muslim terrorism. What's a bunch of dead Jews and fags to you, huh?

 

[12icer]

Timothy McVeigh also wasn't a Christian and he didn't do it for Christianity. He's a go to lie of the left

Yes he left the military Just as oswald, with a chip on his shoulder about this country's government, was then given the added incentive of the Waco murders as evidence.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

I totally get restricting Muslims coming into the US from the terror exporting countries Trump identified. No one has the right to come here and the first job of the Federal government is to protect the American people. We know and ISIS is saying they are putting plants in the emigres.

However, I don't get the logic of how trying to do things like register Muslims already here is going to lead to fewer terrorist attacks.

For example, the attack on the Brussels airport was on the airport because the terrorists were targeting France and they realized the government was closing in on them so they picked an alternative target.

The number of Muslims who would attack us are a tiny percent of the ones here. Obviously the ones who want to stay here and live here would comply even if they resent it. The ones who do want to attack us would move up their attack like Brussels or hide with family and friends or maybe they just register if they have nothing in their background. The San Bernardino shooters could have registered and it would have solved nothing.

Again the point of this question is just strategically, how does this help us? It is not a question of being "fair." I don't get how it would work

Edit: I am not saying there IS a ban on Muslims or a registry. I am asking IF we did it then HOW would it reduce terror attacks?

The govt has already said they don't know anything about those already here or where they're at or what they're up to, the registery would atleast help with that though probably still not perfect.

 

[kaz]

So now you think verified numbers are radical leftist hyperbole. My post was in response to the totally false claim that 99.9% of all terrorism is by Muslims. Was that hyperbole? Did you comment on that? As far as your 2nd paragraph, that is truly a work of your ridiculous imagination. Something that Carl Rove would be proud of.

He said globally and your argument was US. The vast majority of global terrorism is Muslim. We are trying to prevent that from happening here.

And when you post that "Right-Wing Extremists are a Bigger Threat to America than ISIS," you're clearly identifying yourself as an extremist idiot ideologue who will believe anything

So you want to implement restrictions here for things that aren't happening here? My link was for what happens on our own soil. You don't think that should be our major concern?

I'm against registering Muslims, you fucking moron. Read the OP, idiot.

And my choices are that I have to be for a Muslim registry or I have to think Right Wingers are a bigger threat than Muslims. You really are a fucking moron, BULLSHIT

I can't determine what choices you feel you need to make, but on our soil, white supremacists commit more terrorist acts than anyone else by a long shot. Do with that bit of information what you will, but you can't deny that it's true.

So you want to implement restrictions here for things that aren't happening here? My link was for what happens on our own soil. You don't think that should be our major concern?

What restrictions are you referring to? And what things aren't happening on our soil?

You're talking to someone who thinks conservatives are a greater terrorist threat than Muslim extremists. BULLSHIT is not playing with a full deck. I think he actually only has the three of clubs

White supremacists are a bigger terrorist threat on American soil than anyone else. That is a fact that you can't disprove.

White supremacists, nationalists, and racialist have ALWAYS been the biggest terrorist threat on American soil.

And when have the KKK ever worn a suicide vest or planted a bomb or flew planes into buildings to kill mass numbers?

There's nothing right wing about white supremacists either. That's just another canard leftists get away with since the media is liberal

 

[kaz]

Timothy McVeigh also wasn't a Christian and he didn't do it for Christianity. He's a go to lie of the left

Yes he left the military Just as oswald, with a chip on his shoulder about this country's government, was then given the added incentive of the Waco murders as evidence.

He was right about Waco and Ruby Ridge, but obviously what he did about it was completely wrong

 

[kaz]

So you want to implement restrictions here for things that aren't happening here? My link was for what happens on our own soil. You don't think that should be our major concern?

What restrictions are you referring to? And what things aren't happening on our soil?

You're talking to someone who thinks conservatives are a greater terrorist threat than Muslim extremists. BULLSHIT is not playing with a full deck. I think he actually only has the three of clubs

White supremacists are a bigger terrorist threat on American soil than anyone else. That is a fact that you can't disprove.

You drool a lot, don't you?

Still floundering.

You're arguing right wingers are a greater terrorist threat than Muslim extremists and I am floundering. Yeah, right

 

[tycho1572]

He said globally and your argument was US. The vast majority of global terrorism is Muslim. We are trying to prevent that from happening here.

And when you post that "Right-Wing Extremists are a Bigger Threat to America than ISIS," you're clearly identifying yourself as an extremist idiot ideologue who will believe anything

So you want to implement restrictions here for things that aren't happening here? My link was for what happens on our own soil. You don't think that should be our major concern?

I'm against registering Muslims, you fucking moron. Read the OP, idiot.

And my choices are that I have to be for a Muslim registry or I have to think Right Wingers are a bigger threat than Muslims. You really are a fucking moron, BULLSHIT

I can't determine what choices you feel you need to make, but on our soil, white supremacists commit more terrorist acts than anyone else by a long shot. Do with that bit of information what you will, but you can't deny that it's true.

How do you know that when the Obama administration was categorizing San Bernardino as "workplace violence" and Orlando as a "hate crime?" You don't know how many Muslim terrorist acts there were.

The only way you can get that is by starting the clock after 9/11 and doing like Obama and pretending Muslim attacks for religion aren't Muslim attacks for religion.

And if you want to split hairs, you didn't say that, you said they are a bigger "threat" than Muslim extremists, which is total loon

You're floundering now. What happens on our soil is always a bigger concern than anything else.

Do you think we haven't been looking at what's happening in these other countries before making these important decisions?

 

[kaz]

I totally get restricting Muslims coming into the US from the terror exporting countries Trump identified. No one has the right to come here and the first job of the Federal government is to protect the American people. We know and ISIS is saying they are putting plants in the emigres.

However, I don't get the logic of how trying to do things like register Muslims already here is going to lead to fewer terrorist attacks.

For example, the attack on the Brussels airport was on the airport because the terrorists were targeting France and they realized the government was closing in on them so they picked an alternative target.

The number of Muslims who would attack us are a tiny percent of the ones here. Obviously the ones who want to stay here and live here would comply even if they resent it. The ones who do want to attack us would move up their attack like Brussels or hide with family and friends or maybe they just register if they have nothing in their background. The San Bernardino shooters could have registered and it would have solved nothing.

Again the point of this question is just strategically, how does this help us? It is not a question of being "fair." I don't get how it would work

Edit: I am not saying there IS a ban on Muslims or a registry. I am asking IF we did it then HOW would it reduce terror attacks?

The govt has already said they don't know anything about those already here or where they're at or what they're up to, the registery would atleast help with that though probably still not perfect.

As I pointed out though, the ones who are going to register and comply are the ones who aren't a threat. If they are a threat, they are either going to attack immediately or hide until they can

 

[Conservative65]

If and when a Muslim registry is created, more than forty million Americans will register as "Muslim".

You are right: even if the non-Muslims don't register, a registry and ban here won't work.

lol The only way to register as a Muslim is to convert to Islam.

Who says? You?

tmt, a Muslim does not have an "I am a bonafide card carrying Muslim" card.

It does not work that way. All any one has to say is that "I am not a believer in Allah and in His Prophet, Mohammed." End of story.

Those that are but say they aren't would be following the teachings of Muhammed which say it's OK to lie.

 

[12icer]

Still floundering.

Not a bit your statement is patently False because of the labeling process liberals use to vilify any group they disagree with. ALL OF THESE ACTS are not conservatives except in the small minds of liberal shit, and their mouthpieces. Your entire premise is Invalidated by the FACTS.

 

[kaz]

If and when a Muslim registry is created, more than forty million Americans will register as "Muslim".

You are right: even if the non-Muslims don't register, a registry and ban here won't work.

lol The only way to register as a Muslim is to convert to Islam.

Who says? You?

tmt, a Muslim does not have an "I am a bonafide card carrying Muslim" card.

It does not work that way. All any one has to say is that "I am not a believer in Allah and in His Prophet, Mohammed." End of story.

Those that are but say they aren't would be following the teachings of Muhammed which say it's OK to lie.

Not to mention, the 9/11 terrorists got drunk and went to strip clubs the night before the attack

 

[BULLDOG]

So you want to implement restrictions here for things that aren't happening here? My link was for what happens on our own soil. You don't think that should be our major concern?

I'm against registering Muslims, you fucking moron. Read the OP, idiot.

And my choices are that I have to be for a Muslim registry or I have to think Right Wingers are a bigger threat than Muslims. You really are a fucking moron, BULLSHIT

I can't determine what choices you feel you need to make, but on our soil, white supremacists commit more terrorist acts than anyone else by a long shot. Do with that bit of information what you will, but you can't deny that it's true.

How do you know that when the Obama administration was categorizing San Bernardino as "workplace violence" and Orlando as a "hate crime?" You don't know how many Muslim terrorist acts there were.

The only way you can get that is by starting the clock after 9/11 and doing like Obama and pretending Muslim attacks for religion aren't Muslim attacks for religion.

And if you want to split hairs, you didn't say that, you said they are a bigger "threat" than Muslim extremists, which is total loon

You're floundering now. What happens on our soil is always a bigger concern than anything else.

Yes, and clearly Muslims are a greater threat to anyone who isn't an idiot, who is knowledgeable of the world around them and isn't a partisan hack.

You are none of those. You are an idiot, you are not knowledgeable of the world around you and you are totally a partisan hack. Spend some time in Europe. I was there for several of the attacks. Even the surrender monkeys are getting it through their thick heads. So far you have remained unaffected by knowledge and awareness of the threat of Muslim terrorism. What's a bunch of dead Jews and fags to you, huh?

So you gave up on any mature response. You lasted longer this time than usual.

 

[JakeStarkey]

White supremacists, nationalists, and racialist are all far right wing because it is all rooted in American conservatism from earliest days.

 

[BULLDOG]

He said globally and your argument was US. The vast majority of global terrorism is Muslim. We are trying to prevent that from happening here.

And when you post that "Right-Wing Extremists are a Bigger Threat to America than ISIS," you're clearly identifying yourself as an extremist idiot ideologue who will believe anything

So you want to implement restrictions here for things that aren't happening here? My link was for what happens on our own soil. You don't think that should be our major concern?

I'm against registering Muslims, you fucking moron. Read the OP, idiot.

And my choices are that I have to be for a Muslim registry or I have to think Right Wingers are a bigger threat than Muslims. You really are a fucking moron, BULLSHIT

I can't determine what choices you feel you need to make, but on our soil, white supremacists commit more terrorist acts than anyone else by a long shot. Do with that bit of information what you will, but you can't deny that it's true.

What restrictions are you referring to? And what things aren't happening on our soil?

You're talking to someone who thinks conservatives are a greater terrorist threat than Muslim extremists. BULLSHIT is not playing with a full deck. I think he actually only has the three of clubs

White supremacists are a bigger terrorist threat on American soil than anyone else. That is a fact that you can't disprove.

White supremacists, nationalists, and racialist have ALWAYS been the biggest terrorist threat on American soil.

And when have the KKK ever worn a suicide vest or planted a bomb or flew planes into buildings to kill mass numbers?

There's nothing right wing about white supremacists either. That's just another canard leftists get away with since the media is liberal

Nothing, other than the fact that they are celebrating Trump's election, and say he represents everything they represent.

 

[Conservative65]

If and when a Muslim registry is created, more than forty million Americans will register as "Muslim".

You are right: even if the non-Muslims don't register, a registry and ban here won't work.

lol The only way to register as a Muslim is to convert to Islam.

Who says? You?

tmt, a Muslim does not have an "I am a bonafide card carrying Muslim" card.

It does not work that way. All any one has to say is that "I am not a believer in Allah and in His Prophet, Mohammed." End of story.

Those that are but say they aren't would be following the teachings of Muhammed which say it's OK to lie.

Not to mention, the 9/11 terrorists got drunk and went to strip clubs the night before the attack

The religion teaches it's OK to lie to infidels. The left considers anyone other than those believing like them as infidels. Maybe that's why the left thinks lying is OK. On the other hand, the left supports the concept of someone being a different gender than they were born because they feel that way while Muslims would throw them off buildings. Guess it's the typical pick and choose of the left.

 

[BULLDOG]

So you want to implement restrictions here for things that aren't happening here? My link was for what happens on our own soil. You don't think that should be our major concern?

I'm against registering Muslims, you fucking moron. Read the OP, idiot.

And my choices are that I have to be for a Muslim registry or I have to think Right Wingers are a bigger threat than Muslims. You really are a fucking moron, BULLSHIT

I can't determine what choices you feel you need to make, but on our soil, white supremacists commit more terrorist acts than anyone else by a long shot. Do with that bit of information what you will, but you can't deny that it's true.

How do you know that when the Obama administration was categorizing San Bernardino as "workplace violence" and Orlando as a "hate crime?" You don't know how many Muslim terrorist acts there were.

The only way you can get that is by starting the clock after 9/11 and doing like Obama and pretending Muslim attacks for religion aren't Muslim attacks for religion.

And if you want to split hairs, you didn't say that, you said they are a bigger "threat" than Muslim extremists, which is total loon

You're floundering now. What happens on our soil is always a bigger concern than anything else.

Do you think we should be looking at what's happening in the other countries before making these important decisions?

Of course.

 

[kaz]

I'm against registering Muslims, you fucking moron. Read the OP, idiot.

And my choices are that I have to be for a Muslim registry or I have to think Right Wingers are a bigger threat than Muslims. You really are a fucking moron, BULLSHIT

I can't determine what choices you feel you need to make, but on our soil, white supremacists commit more terrorist acts than anyone else by a long shot. Do with that bit of information what you will, but you can't deny that it's true.

How do you know that when the Obama administration was categorizing San Bernardino as "workplace violence" and Orlando as a "hate crime?" You don't know how many Muslim terrorist acts there were.

The only way you can get that is by starting the clock after 9/11 and doing like Obama and pretending Muslim attacks for religion aren't Muslim attacks for religion.

And if you want to split hairs, you didn't say that, you said they are a bigger "threat" than Muslim extremists, which is total loon

You're floundering now. What happens on our soil is always a bigger concern than anything else.

Yes, and clearly Muslims are a greater threat to anyone who isn't an idiot, who is knowledgeable of the world around them and isn't a partisan hack.

You are none of those. You are an idiot, you are not knowledgeable of the world around you and you are totally a partisan hack. Spend some time in Europe. I was there for several of the attacks. Even the surrender monkeys are getting it through their thick heads. So far you have remained unaffected by knowledge and awareness of the threat of Muslim terrorism. What's a bunch of dead Jews and fags to you, huh?

So you gave up on any mature response. You lasted longer this time than usual.

You never were mature, your typical conversation. Saying that right wing is a greater threat than Muslim isn't in any way adult. It's just partisan hack

 

[kaz]

So you want to implement restrictions here for things that aren't happening here? My link was for what happens on our own soil. You don't think that should be our major concern?

I'm against registering Muslims, you fucking moron. Read the OP, idiot.

And my choices are that I have to be for a Muslim registry or I have to think Right Wingers are a bigger threat than Muslims. You really are a fucking moron, BULLSHIT

I can't determine what choices you feel you need to make, but on our soil, white supremacists commit more terrorist acts than anyone else by a long shot. Do with that bit of information what you will, but you can't deny that it's true.

You're talking to someone who thinks conservatives are a greater terrorist threat than Muslim extremists. BULLSHIT is not playing with a full deck. I think he actually only has the three of clubs

White supremacists are a bigger terrorist threat on American soil than anyone else. That is a fact that you can't disprove.

White supremacists, nationalists, and racialist have ALWAYS been the biggest terrorist threat on American soil.

And when have the KKK ever worn a suicide vest or planted a bomb or flew planes into buildings to kill mass numbers?

There's nothing right wing about white supremacists either. That's just another canard leftists get away with since the media is liberal

Nothing, other than the fact that they are celebrating Trump's election, and say he represents everything they represent.

Yet that standard changes when discussing the Communist party endorsing every Democrat. You are a liar

 

[BULLDOG]

Still floundering.

Not a bit your statement is patently False because of the labeling process liberals use to vilify any group they disagree with. ALL OF THESE ACTS are not conservatives except in the small minds of liberal shit, and their mouthpieces. Your entire premise is Invalidated by the FACTS.

If my premise is invalid, someone should tell the white supremacists
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