I don’t understand why republicans are so selective about the definition of socialism

[JoeB131]

This is why I'm blown away by hot utterly and entirely ignorant you ridiculous people are.

El Salvador is "capitalist"? Is it really?

El Salvador is ranked 84th, in a list of 160. Not exactly a free-capitalist system by any stretch.

Ah... you are falling for the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Look it up and then get back to me.

El Salvador is just another example of how socialism work.

At first, they claim how they fight for the people, especially for poor, they tell them how government will take care of them, give them everything for free... from health care, education, housing, pensions, welfare, you name it.

Um, that's not what El Salvador is at all. El Salvador is classic capitalism. About 14 families control most of the wealth.

Economy of El Salvador - Wikipedia

Most of the economy is geared towards providing cheap commodities to the United States. This was after we poured billions into the country to keep it from going Communist in the 1980's.

 

[JoeB131]

There's a reason Union GM and Chrysler went bankrupt, and non-union Toyota and Honda did not.

It really is the Zombie ideology, that self-destructs.

You are a little confused. Japanese auto workers have stronger unions than the US has.

JAW

The ONLY reason why Toyota and Honda BOTHER with non-union shops in Jesusland is because Ronald Reagan put limits on how many cars they could import. Most of their cars are STILL made in Japan by they 763,000 Auto workers. (By comparison, the UAW has only 390,000 members.)

 

[danielpalos]

Equality and equal protection of the law! Socialism in action.

 

[imawhosure]

However, I think it’s important to put these videos in perspective. We buy into a certain narrative and it evolves over time.

Making the mistake of DEFENDING "radical socialists" ONCE or TWICE might be excusable, but that moron has NEVER LEARNED...

A lot like you actually... Just has a bunch of wimpy excuses for the horrendous and murderous outcomes after all those "democratic socialist" movements crashed and burned...

And just like you -- Bernie is CLUELESS as to how capitalism or free markets work and how HUGE BLOATED GOVT does not....

I like Bernie.. I support 1/2 of all his positions.. Just NONE of the ones that have to do with MATH or ECONOMICS....

Wouldn't know how to support you on ANY issues, because I don't think you operate on principles. You just react to political power considerations...

Lol good god. You do know the governments mentioned besides the Nordic countries were not democratic socialist states right? You have no concept of what the word means.

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. The founders had socialist ideas after all. They basically were leftists. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

These loons have conflated totalitarianism with socialism.

Socialism is the Conservative Boogey Man

They pull it out any time someone wants to do something that helps the people.

Equality and equal protection of the law! Socialism in action.

I have been reading this thread through, and am totally fascinated by the Lefts pointing at the Nordic countries.
I have to tell my conservative friends on here, that if we proposed becoming EXACTLY like the Nordic countries, say Sweden for example, the Left would be the ones SCREAMING that it is not fair!

What the Left is doing is feeding you 14 pages on this thread of absolute propaganda designed to tell you they want to be like the Nordic countries because it is wonderful and you should too; when they really do not, THEY USE the Nordic model to convince you, but would NEVER agree to put that in place as they would lose all of their power in government, lol!

I am here to tell you that------------------>IF they can find a candidate willing to put in EXACTLY the Nordic model, all of us would be better off, and the Left would be crying like babies; which means they won't ever do it!

How do we know?

I am going to post a 5 minute video on one of the Nordic countries and how they actually do things. At the end of the video, there is a link to the FULL VERSION if you are interested in learning more on how they actually do things, which will take you significantly longer than 5 minutes. After watching the short version, you tell all of us if you actually BELIEVE what Billy-E-Baloney wants is this type of government, lol. And if he does, why hell, we should INSIST that all these people give us EXACTLY that, then watch them head for the hills and say, "yeah but," or "we didn't mean," or "it's not fair!"

Link of 5 minute video------->

 

[Mac1958]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!


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[bigrebnc1775]

To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. The founders had socialist ideas after all. They basically were leftists. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.

Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?

socialism= free shit you didn't pay for
social security= stuff you contributed into throughout your life
ANY
?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!


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Actually you lying shit stain that isn't true.

 

[sparky]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!


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Actually you lying shit stain that isn't true.

and your ilk redefines terms to fit their narrative

~S~

 

[Mac1958]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!


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Actually you lying shit stain that isn't true.

What isn't true?

Please expand.
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[bigrebnc1775]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!


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Actually you lying shit stain that isn't true.

What isn't true?

Please expand.
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retards as you could never understand the explanation

 

[sparky]

What isn't true?

>>>>

~S~

 

[sparky]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!


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Actually you lying shit stain that isn't true.

What isn't true?

Please expand.
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retards as you could never understand the explanation

try us Red

~S~

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!


.

Actually you lying shit stain that isn't true.

and your ilk redefines terms to fit their narrative

~S~

Truth never redefines it's set's the standards

 

[Mac1958]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!


.

Actually you lying shit stain that isn't true.

What isn't true?

Please expand.
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retards as you could never understand the explanation

Yeah, I didn't think so.

But your "lying shit stain" and "retards" comments are very Trumpian. Well done.
.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!


.

Actually you lying shit stain that isn't true.

What isn't true?

Please expand.
.

retards as you could never understand the explanation

try us Red

~S~

You can't even comprehend REB is not red

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!


.

Actually you lying shit stain that isn't true.

What isn't true?

Please expand.
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retards as you could never understand the explanation

Yeah, I didn't think so.

But your "lying shit stain" and "retards" comments are very Trumpian. Well done.
.

I've been calling you leftist's retards long before Trump became a Republican

 

[JoeB131]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!

Or they don't put as much credit to those things as you do.

There's this whole world outside of Wall Street where most of us don't own stocks.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!

Or they don't put as much credit to those things as you do.

There's this whole world outside of Wall Street where most of us don't own stocks.

Retard

 

[Mac1958]

They'll scream SOCIALISM at the top of their lungs at the slightest provocation, yet they'll puff their chests out and celebrate an economy that is being buoyed by aggressive increases in government spending and aggressive NY Fed intervention.

Is this dishonesty, ignorance, or blind ideology? Who knows!


.

Actually you lying shit stain that isn't true.

What isn't true?

Please expand.
.

retards as you could never understand the explanation

Yeah, I didn't think so.

But your "lying shit stain" and "retards" comments are very Trumpian. Well done.
.

I've been calling you leftist's retards long before Trump became a Republican

Sure, then you found a guy who talks and behaves just like you.

Anyway, let me know when you're ready to stop hiding from my question. Make your answer as detailed as you would like, this is my profession and you won't confuse me with your knowledge and brilliance.

Looking forward to it!
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[JoeB131]

socialism= free shit you didn't pay for
social security= stuff you contributed into throughout your life
ANY
?

Except not really. Most of us are paying for it through our labor. it's just that the wealthy collect the benefits, the government takes a big share and redistributes it. The ironic thing is that if you wonder why Bernie is so popular, it's because so many people are working themselves to death at two jobs, not getting ahead of the various schemes the One Percent use to cheat them,and Bernie comes along and offers "free shit" (the stuff they should already have by virtue of working for a living but often don't.) and they are all for it.

If the economy was doing that great for most people, Bernie would not be polling at 49% in the RCP average.