I Have A Question For Republicans

[Care4all]

When Bill Clinton left a balanced budget with surpluses in line to completely eliminate the national debt by 2012, why did George W. Bush slash tax rates for the rich and double the debt from $5.7 trillion to nearly $12 trillion?

The idea was its their money. If there's a surplus return it back to the people.

Knowing that surplus wouldn't last. They shifted the tax burden more onto us. I can just hear their replies. All lies.

Let's undo those tax breaks

THAT was a HUGE republican LIE.

the Budget surplus cam from Social Security Surplus....

It was NOT the tax money of the wealthiest through income tax that gave us the surplus....yet they gave the most of the surplus money in dollars, to the wealthiest, who did not pay any social security tax at all or who only paid it up to the 65k that was the cap of SS taxes and all the rest of what they earned was not taxed SS tax....

it was a reverse Robin Hood, they stole from the working class who paid SS tax on every dime they earned and GAVE it to the wealthiest who paid near NONE.

 

[nat4900]

He was right. Corporations are made of people and they can vote. All the same way if they want. There's nothing in the Constitution to prevent it, no matter how angry the libtard gets.

Yes, he was sooooooo right.......By the way, did Romeny win that election??? LOL

 

[nat4900]

Only a fool believes what anybody makes is the business of the federal government…

Isn't the above part of the Tea baggers' Manifesto??? LOL

 

[Iceweasel]

Bush's tax cuts were across the board and still in effect for everyone except the top earners. Also spending went way up when the Dims took over congress.

First notice that last sentence...."spending went up with the Dems.""""
One wonders if those cute little wars that Cheney started were FREE.....

Cheney didn't start anything and the cost was about 2 trillion and ....

Which President Added Most to the U.S. Debt?
George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase to the $5.8 trillion debt level at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

1.6 of which was the Economic Stimulus Act.

 

[Markle]

When Bill Clinton left a balanced budget with surpluses in line to completely eliminate the national debt by 2012, why did George W. Bush slash tax rates for the rich and double the debt from $5.7 trillion to nearly $12 trillion?

there was no surplus, the balanced budget was set up by Newt and bubba reluctantly agreed. then 9/11 happened. the debt was 10.6 T when obozo took over, it will be over 21 T when he leaves, he will have added more debt than all previous presidents combined. If you want to talk about debt creation, lets talk about Obama's debt.

No surplus ? So where did all those checks to everyone come from and all those paid for tax cuts to billionaires?

So let me get this straight….

Bush issued a bunch of checks and we didn’t have a surplus?
Texas “logic” for you.

No surplus, a link was provided for you spelling it out....read it, comprehend it then shut up

No point in trying to educate Progressives. If they do not see it in Media Matters, DailyKOS or The Nation it did not happen.

Studies have also shown that Progressives are far less likely to read opposing views than are Conservatives. No surprise there either. Conservatives know we have the TRUTH AND FACTS on our side and are not afraid to consider opposing views.

 

[Rustic]

I am the sole owner of three "s" corps... Lol
S corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is hanging out on this forum for hours and hours one of your S Corp.???

Come and go as I please... A perk of being self-employed suggest.
I have this guy working for me…

 

[Rustic]

Only a fool believes what anybody makes is the business of the federal government…

Isn't the above part of the Tea baggers' Manifesto??? LOL

Deflection

 

[Markle]

Cheney didn't start anything and the cost was about 2 trillion and ....

Which President Added Most to the U.S. Debt?
George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase to the $5.8 trillion debt level at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

1.6 of which was the Economic Stimulus Act.

Your attempt at spin and deception, indicating your utter desperation with all your lies.

Thank you!

 

[nat4900]

Cheney didn't start anything and the cost was about 2 trillion and ....

Which President Added Most to the U.S. Debt?
George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase to the $5.8 trillion debt level at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

1.6 of which was the Economic Stimulus Act.

True Cheney didn't star the wars.......They were actually started by my grandmother.....

And, when do the Bush budgets INCLUDE the cost of the wars????

 

[Care4all]

Tax cuts are for the people

Reminds of the quip that helped sunk, Romney......"Corporations are people too," he said. LOL

He was right. Corporations are made of people and they can vote. All the same way if they want. There's nothing in the Constitution to prevent it, no matter how angry the libtard gets.

when corporations were first created in this Country it was AGAINST THE LAW for any corporation to donate or involve themselves in any way shape or form, in politics.


Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States
When American colonists declared independence from England in 1776, they also freed themselves from control by English corporations that extracted their wealth and dominated trade. After fighting a revolution to end this exploitation, our country’s founders retained a healthy fear of corporate power and wisely limited corporations exclusively to a business role. Corporations were forbidden from attempting to influence elections, public policy, and other realms of civic society.

Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals. Enabling shareholders to profit was seen as a means to that end. The states also imposed conditions (some of which remain on the books, though unused) like these*:

• 
  
  
  • Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
  • Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
  • Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
  • Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
  • Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
  • Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.

For 100 years after the American Revolution, legislators maintained tight controll of the corporate chartering process. Because of widespread public opposition, early legislators granted very few corporate charters, and only after debate. Citizens governed corporations by detailing operating conditions not just in charters but also in state constitutions and state laws. Incorporated businesses were prohibited from taking any action that legislators did not specifically allow.

States also limited corporate charters to a set number of years. Unless a legislature renewed an expiring charter, the corporation was dissolved and its assets were divided among shareholders. Citizen authority clauses limited capitalization, debts, land holdings, and sometimes, even profits. They required a company’s accounting books to be turned over to a legislature upon request. The power of large shareholders was limited by scaled voting, so that large and small investors had equal voting rights. Interlocking directorates were outlawed. Shareholders had the right to remove directors at will.

In Europe, charters protected directors and stockholders from liability for debts and harms caused by their corporations. American legislators explicitly rejected this corporate shield. The penalty for abuse or misuse of the charter was not a plea bargain and a fine, but dissolution of the corporation.

read lots more here: Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States

 

[Rustic]

Tax cuts are for the people

Reminds of the quip that helped sunk, Romney......"Corporations are people too," he said. LOL

He was right. Corporations are made of people and they can vote. All the same way if they want. There's nothing in the Constitution to prevent it, no matter how angry the libtard gets.

when corporations were first created in this Country it was AGAINST THE LAW for any corporation to donate or involve themselves in any way shape or form, in politics.


Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States
When American colonists declared independence from England in 1776, they also freed themselves from control by English corporations that extracted their wealth and dominated trade. After fighting a revolution to end this exploitation, our country’s founders retained a healthy fear of corporate power and wisely limited corporations exclusively to a business role. Corporations were forbidden from attempting to influence elections, public policy, and other realms of civic society.

Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals. Enabling shareholders to profit was seen as a means to that end. The states also imposed conditions (some of which remain on the books, though unused) like these*:

• 
  
  
  • Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
  • Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
  • Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
  • Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
  • Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
  • Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.

For 100 years after the American Revolution, legislators maintained tight controll of the corporate chartering process. Because of widespread public opposition, early legislators granted very few corporate charters, and only after debate. Citizens governed corporations by detailing operating conditions not just in charters but also in state constitutions and state laws. Incorporated businesses were prohibited from taking any action that legislators did not specifically allow.

States also limited corporate charters to a set number of years. Unless a legislature renewed an expiring charter, the corporation was dissolved and its assets were divided among shareholders. Citizen authority clauses limited capitalization, debts, land holdings, and sometimes, even profits. They required a company’s accounting books to be turned over to a legislature upon request. The power of large shareholders was limited by scaled voting, so that large and small investors had equal voting rights. Interlocking directorates were outlawed. Shareholders had the right to remove directors at will.

In Europe, charters protected directors and stockholders from liability for debts and harms caused by their corporations. American legislators explicitly rejected this corporate shield. The penalty for abuse or misuse of the charter was not a plea bargain and a fine, but dissolution of the corporation.

read lots more here: Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States

Labor unions should be kicked out of the country, you know there is no lobby more corrupt and violent in all of America.

 

[nat4900]

Only a fool believes what anybody makes is the business of the federal government…

Isn't the above part of the Tea baggers' Manifesto??? LOL

Deflection

True, mine was a deflection, but your " Only a fool believes what anybody makes is the business of the federal government" was probably found in a Chinese fortune cookie......LOL

 

[80zephyr]

Cheney didn't start anything and the cost was about 2 trillion and ....

Which President Added Most to the U.S. Debt?
George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase to the $5.8 trillion debt level at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

1.6 of which was the Economic Stimulus Act.

True Cheney didn't star the wars.......They were actually started by my grandmother.....

And, when do the Bush budgets INCLUDE the cost of the wars????

You cannot "budget" a war, since you cant possibly know what you are spending. The spending isn't hidden either, since all spending is added to our national debt.

Mark

 

[Fiero425]

Cheney didn't start anything and the cost was about 2 trillion and ....

Which President Added Most to the U.S. Debt?
George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase to the $5.8 trillion debt level at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

1.6 of which was the Economic Stimulus Act.

True Cheney didn't star the wars.......They were actually started by my grandmother.....

And, when do the Bush budgets INCLUDE the cost of the wars????

You cannot "budget" a war, since you cant possibly know what you are spending. The spending isn't hidden either, since all spending is added to our national debt.

Mark

Then why did "W" try to hide it by being "off budget?" Republicans are hypocrites; can't find money to pay for infrastructure, but can always find it to pay for silly wars! I truly believe they're trying to bankrupt the country just to eliminate the social programs created by Dems; Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Education, Welfare, and programs for kids since they only care about them before being born! After that, they're on their own! Idiots!

 

[Iceweasel]

He was right. Corporations are made of people and they can vote. All the same way if they want. There's nothing in the Constitution to prevent it, no matter how angry the libtard gets.

Yes, he was sooooooo right.......By the way, did Romeny win that election??? LOL

Huh?

Cheney didn't start anything and the cost was about 2 trillion and ....

Which President Added Most to the U.S. Debt?
George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase to the $5.8 trillion debt level at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

1.6 of which was the Economic Stimulus Act.

True Cheney didn't star the wars.......They were actually started by my grandmother.....

And, when do the Bush budgets INCLUDE the cost of the wars????

You cannot "budget" a war, since you cant possibly know what you are spending. The spending isn't hidden either, since all spending is added to our national debt.

Mark

Then why did "W" try to hide it by being "off budget?" Republicans are hypocrites; can't find money to pay for infrastructure, but can always find it to pay for silly wars! I truly believe they're trying to bankrupt the country just to eliminate the social programs created by Dems; Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Education, Welfare, and programs for kids since they only care about them before being born! After that, they're on their own! Idiots!

The budget wasn't just spent on war, both of which Hillary voted for.

Fail.

 

[candycorn]

When Bill Clinton left a balanced budget with surpluses in line to completely eliminate the national debt by 2012, why did George W. Bush slash tax rates for the rich and double the debt from $5.7 trillion to nearly $12 trillion?

there was no surplus, the balanced budget was set up by Newt and bubba reluctantly agreed. then 9/11 happened. the debt was 10.6 T when obozo took over, it will be over 21 T when he leaves, he will have added more debt than all previous presidents combined. If you want to talk about debt creation, lets talk about Obama's debt.

No surplus ? So where did all those checks to everyone come from and all those paid for tax cuts to billionaires?

So let me get this straight….

Bush issued a bunch of checks and we didn’t have a surplus?
Texas “logic” for you.

No surplus, a link was provided for you spelling it out....read it, comprehend it then shut up

No point in trying to educate Progressives. If they do not see it in Media Matters, DailyKOS or The Nation it did not happen.

Studies have also shown that Progressives are far less likely to read opposing views than are Conservatives. No surprise there either. Conservatives know we have the TRUTH AND FACTS on our side and are not afraid to consider opposing views.

Total garbage.

The logic behind the checks was that there was a surplus. That was the only reason it was done. If what you’re saying is true, the move (at best) worsened the deficit.

As for conservatives and honesty, thanks for another reason to Laugh. Don’t believe me ….Start a thread and ask cons here if Obama was born in the US. I dare you…. That you’re too scared to have your opinion trounced in public is a given and we all know you won’t do it. But if you did, you would either get your doors blown off or you would get answers as crooked as a corkscrew as to where there are no answers at all.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

there was no surplus, the balanced budget was set up by Newt and bubba reluctantly agreed. then 9/11 happened. the debt was 10.6 T when obozo took over, it will be over 21 T when he leaves, he will have added more debt than all previous presidents combined. If you want to talk about debt creation, lets talk about Obama's debt.

No surplus ? So where did all those checks to everyone come from and all those paid for tax cuts to billionaires?

So let me get this straight….

Bush issued a bunch of checks and we didn’t have a surplus?
Texas “logic” for you.

No surplus, a link was provided for you spelling it out....read it, comprehend it then shut up

No point in trying to educate Progressives. If they do not see it in Media Matters, DailyKOS or The Nation it did not happen.

Studies have also shown that Progressives are far less likely to read opposing views than are Conservatives. No surprise there either. Conservatives know we have the TRUTH AND FACTS on our side and are not afraid to consider opposing views.

Total garbage.

The logic behind the checks was that there was a surplus. That was the only reason it was done. If what you’re saying is true, the move (at best) worsened the deficit.

As for conservatives and honesty, thanks for another reason to Laugh. Don’t believe me ….Start a thread and ask cons here if Obama was born in the US. I dare you…. That you’re too scared to have your opinion trounced in public is a given and we all know you won’t do it. But if you did, you would either get your doors blown off or you would get answers as crooked as a corkscrew as to where there are no answers at all.

No it's not, you;re just too fucking stupid to understand it. Get an education and then comment, you look like a fool....and I'm onto your stupid ass

 

[nat4900]

You cannot "budget" a war, since you cant possibly know what you are spending. The spending isn't hidden either, since all spending is added to our national debt.

Are you 6 years old? A country does not budget a war? We don't budget the Pentagon? We don't budget the Dept. of Defense?.........and we give TAX CUTS while we borrow money to fight wars??

 

[Fiero425]

No surplus ? So where did all those checks to everyone come from and all those paid for tax cuts to billionaires?

So let me get this straight….

Bush issued a bunch of checks and we didn’t have a surplus?
Texas “logic” for you.

No surplus, a link was provided for you spelling it out....read it, comprehend it then shut up

No point in trying to educate Progressives. If they do not see it in Media Matters, DailyKOS or The Nation it did not happen.

Studies have also shown that Progressives are far less likely to read opposing views than are Conservatives. No surprise there either. Conservatives know we have the TRUTH AND FACTS on our side and are not afraid to consider opposing views.

Total garbage.

The logic behind the checks was that there was a surplus. That was the only reason it was done. If what you’re saying is true, the move (at best) worsened the deficit.

As for conservatives and honesty, thanks for another reason to Laugh. Don’t believe me ….Start a thread and ask cons here if Obama was born in the US. I dare you…. That you’re too scared to have your opinion trounced in public is a given and we all know you won’t do it. But if you did, you would either get your doors blown off or you would get answers as crooked as a corkscrew as to where there are no answers at all.

No it's not, you;re just too fucking stupid to understand it. Get an education and then comment, you look like a fool....and I'm onto your stupid ass

SO you're denying a good number of idiotic conservative Republicans believe Obama isn't from this country and is holding the Presidency illegally? Delusion reigns it seems! It's so sad and pathetic that these people actually have a vote and aren't relegated to mental institutions! A 2 term Democratic President is actually running things and has higher favorables than any of their loser candidates and they still can't get over It!

 

[nat4900]

The budget wasn't just spent on war, both of which Hillary voted for.

A response worthy of an elementary school child...and its morons like these that actually vote.