I S I S Captures Route Irish. This Contradicts Dempsey Saying Iraq Under Control.

[EconChick]

So Fakey and Foo are too scared to respond. They realized they were way in over their heads I guess. What I figured.....

 

[EconChick]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Did ISIS capture the road from the Airport to the Green Zone or not? What is this thread about? Is it about something? If ISIS captured the road it would mean they are at the gates of the airport and the Green Zone. Do you know the definition of the word capture?

She's a pathological liar. A textbook case. Have you ever known one? I have. Worked with a guy once who was. He was a running joke with everyone there.

You mean lying when I said we'd kick your ass in the election??? That kind of liar? LMAO.

Or you mean lying when I said median income had fallen under Obummer? And because that was the economic statistic that mattered to most people, Americans would see through the spinning of all the other stats and reject you idiots at the polls? You mean THAT lie? LMFAO.

Or you mean my hundreds of posts schooling you stupid liberal dumbasses on why it was a mistake for Obama to pull out and why he screwed up the SOFA? You mean the one that TWO Secretaries of Defense, two ambassadors, and several generals......all of whom worked for that idiot hero of yours.....completely agreed with me on? Including the Democrat Panetta?

You mean that lie???? Snicker, snort. Speaking of which, you need to lay off the snort Carb. No one believes a thing that comes out of your mouth. Try getting off the bottle and maybe you'll make sense for a change.

Yeahhh, I wasn't the one implying/hoping Dems would win the Senate. That would be the pathetic liars like you, honey.

 

[EconChick]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

You're such an asshole. I suppose you think you're impressing people with the "in-the-know" nickname of an Iraqi highway. You're not. You seem to be referring to a statement made by the Army Chief of Staff. It's kind of customary around here to give a quote or link when the quote is central to the OP. When did he make that statement, where?

Doesn't agree with what he said in his visit to Iraq this weekend, From NBC;

"BAGHDAD — The United States' top military officer told American troops on a surprise visit to Baghdad on Saturday that the momentum in the battle with ISIS was "starting to turn", but predicted a drawn-out campaign lasting several years. General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff..."

Like somebody already said, instead of playing your stupid "I'm so smart" game you should have given us something to go on. "Would it kill you to give us a link"

Dude, thanks for stepping into my trap.

I was really only setting the trap for the two biggest liberal idiots that propagandize this topic - Fakey and Foo - but hey, if I caught a few other animals in the snare, so be it.

Those two morons don't think our troops on the ground "have boots on the ground" or are in harms way and that they lay by the poolside sipping martinis. They also buy all the bullshit politician Dempsey dishes out.

I even addressed the OP to them. But if you wanna jump in and reveal your clown creds too, go for it.

As for referring to a statement - LMAO, moron. No, unlike morons like you that run your mouth about Iraq, I spent a lot of time going up and down that road. Now fuck off.

Lord you are one dumb Dudess with one hell of an engorged ego. Trap? That's hilarious, the only trap I see is the web of lies you've ensnared yourself in. You're refusal to give us a Dempsey quote to back up your OP means only one thing to me, as lots of others have concluded, you're a lying candy-assed fool as well.
If you truly were in Iraq, which is still up in the air, thanks for your service, it's just too bad you didn't learn anything while you were there. By the level of intelligence you display I can maybe see you as some brainwashed apparatchik for Paul Bremer, Potentate of the ruinously inept administration that, aside from the original blunder of going to war in the first place, is most responsible for this ongoing horror. It's hard to picture someone as ditto-headed as you being a member of the military whose smarter and more honest leaders (the majority I believe) have acknowledged the mistakes made and taken steps so that such a "fiasco" or "quagmire" (I thought we'd learned these lessons in Vietnam) won't happen again. This honest self-appraisal was demonstrated a couple of years ago in a paper discussed in "Stars and Stripes", here. I'm going to c&p a good chunk of it but it really is worth a full read. I think they give a link to the report itself. You seem to want everybody to think Iraq was a big success before Obama. This assessment by the Joint Chiefs gives the lie to that notion. It also seethes underneath with an intense disgust for civilians like Bremer (and you? hey I don't know) whose terrible mis-steps led to driving the Iraqi military underground and to leadership roles in ISIS today. Suck up your misplaced bravado and jingoism and give this a read;

"When President Obama announced in Aug. 2010 the end of U.S. combat operations in Iraq, he complimented the soldiers who had served there for completing “every mission they were given.” But some of military’s most senior officers, in a little-noticed report this spring, rendered a harsher account of their work that highlights repeated missteps and failures over the past decade, in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
There was a “failure to recognize, acknowledge and accurately define” the environment in which the conflicts occurred, leading to a “mismatch between forces, capabilities, missions, and goals,” says the assessment from the Pentagon’s Joint Staff. The efforts were marked by a “failure to adequately plan and resource strategic and operational” shifts from one phase of the conflicts to the next.
From the outset, U.S. forces were poorly prepared for peacekeeping and had not adequately planned for the unexepected. In the first half of the decade, “strategic leadership repeatedly failed,” and as a result, U.S. military training, policies, doctrine and equipment were ill-suited to the tasks that troops actually faced in Iraq and Afghanistan.
These self-critical conclusions appear in the first volume of a draft report titled “Decade of War” — part of a multi-volume survey of “enduring lessons” from the past ten years of conflict. When completed, “it will be used by senior leaders” to develop U.S. military forces for the future, according to Navy Lt. Cmdr. Cindy Fields, a Joint Staff spokeswoman.
Fields said the 36-page, May 2012 report remains an internal document and is not available to the public, but a copy was posted Thursday on the website of a trade publication called "Inside the Pentagon" (accessible only to regular or trial subscribers).
Its criticisms are largely familiar to anyone who closely followed the two wars’ fitful progress or who read author Thomas Ricks’ seminal, bestselling 2006 account of the U.S. military’s early failings in Iraq, bluntly titled “Fiasco.” An internal Army War College assessment in 2005 cited in Ricks’ book reaches similar conclusions.
But this new retrospective may be more significant because it was prepared by the Pentagon directorate responsible for developing military educational curricula, war-fighting doctrine, and training regimes for all the services. What the report makes clear is that senior officers have fully accepted the judgment by so many others that their prosecution of the wars — at a direct cost to the federal budget of more than a trillion dollars — was in some ways inept.
While it does not name those responsible, the assessment points fingers in unmistakable directions. It says that the early dismantling of Iraq’s security forces and firing of mid-level government officials — decisions made by Ambassador Paul Bremer with broad support in the Bush administration — crippled Iraq’s ability to govern itself and fueled the insurgency, creating social chaos that lasted for years. The task of creating a new police and military force was a “severe burden” that neither U.S. troops nor civilian agencies were prepared to undertake.
The early signs of the insurgency, the report says, were ignored. Intelligence failures were rife, with early shortages of key analysts and interpreters, remotely-piloted aircraft, and electronic eavesdroppers. What intelligence was gathered was sometimes overclassified, with the result that it failed to reach those who needed it. And units were not taught in advance what local populations were really like; instead, they depended on what the military calls “discovery learning” — otherwise known as flying by the seat of one’s pants — with lessons not systematically passed along to units rotated in as replacements.
By 2005, two years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, the military side of the U.S. effort and the civilian aid side were pursuing different missions with different goals, leading to wasted expenditures and missed opportunities, the report states. And “the image of the U.S. was frequently tarnished by tactical actions that contradicted U.S. values or strategy,” ranging from the scandal at Abu Ghraib to paying inadequate heed at the outset to harmful images of civilian casualties.
The report’s toughest criticism is leveled at the mishandling and undermanning by military commanders and political officials of key “transition” moments in the two wars — such as the end of major combat operations in 2003, the renewal of Iraqi self-governance in 2004-2005, and NATO’s takeover in 2006 of military operations in Afghanistan.
“Failure to adequately plan and resource strategic and operational transitions endangered accomplishment of the overall mission” in the first half of the decade, the account says, although the military did better later. “Non-combat skills, to include civil affairs, had not been adequately rehearsed.” In Afghanistan, “the planning assumed that the chief duty” of international troops after 2006 would be reconstruction and humanitarian aid — an assumption that turned out to be grotesquely wrong.
The reason, the report says, was that military planning was based on “U.S. expectations instead of those consistent with the host nation and mission,” a nice way of describing wishful thinking rather than realism. “For example,” the report notes, “ the planned end-state for Afghanistan was envisioned to be a strong central government despite no record of such a government in its history and lack of broad popular support for that system of governance.”
Without using his name, the report says that Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, who directed the V Corps that assumed control in Iraq after major combat ceased, was deployed without training in reconstruction and stabilization. “His staff was not manned, equipped, nor resourced to accept these responsibilities,” the chronicle explains.
U.S. military forces were also not equipped “to combat adaptive insurgencies” in both countries, the report says. While special forces units had some of the proper skills, they poorly coordinated their operations with regular forces. They did not share routinely share intelligence, at least at the outset, and regular troops in Afghanistan complained until 2008 that the special forces’ actions often caused social disruptions that others had to contain.
The civilian side of the Iraq effort, which Bremer ran, “often lacked the necessary expertise and resources,” operated independently, and lacked an overarching strategy — a problem the report says was not really fixed until 2007.
The report credits U.S. forces with eventually overcoming “the challenge of inadequate planning and preparation … by widespread and successful adaptation at all levels” — partly at the urging of commanders such as Gen. David Petraeus. But the assessment notes that efforts to rush newly-developed equipment to the wars impeded proper training, and caused late discovery of vulnerabilities and reliabiity or maintenance problems.
The report summarizes all of these problems in eleven “overarching lessons” to be drawn from the decade of war. But it warns that even though the U.S. military has developed what the report calls “an increasingly expeditionary mindset,” a better coordination of U.S. military and civilian efforts has yet to be mandated by “U.S. law or policy.”

Hmmm...I couldn't decide what to leave out so I C&P'd the whole thing, oh well.

Your post wasn't even worth reading, WANNABE.

You know even less than the idiots Carb, Fakey and Foo about Iraq.


But thanks for playin'

 

[EconChick]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Did ISIS capture the road from the Airport to the Green Zone or not? What is this thread about? Is it about something? If ISIS captured the road it would mean they are at the gates of the airport and the Green Zone. Do you know the definition of the word capture?

Awww, now I have to admit I did expect a LITTLE bit more from YOU than the average idiot lib on this subject. I thought you were military.

Well, princess, it must've been the Antarctica military you were in because that's one of the dumbest things out of your mouth.

At the gates of the GZ? Are you really that stupid?

Were you even ever IN the country of Iraq? I'm not talking about fantasy videos or Call of Duty video games.

If they were clustered at the gates of the GZ it would be very easy to target them, idiot. That's not how taking control works. What a fucking moron that pretends to understand this topic.

You might fool some of these brainless morons, but you don't fool anyone that's actually spent time on Irish.

 

[g5000]

 

[EconChick]

So 17 hours since the OP was posted and not one article about this anywhere on the internet.

Here, let me school ya a little bit about how analysis works. YOU DON'T FUCKING RELY ON THE INTERNET FOR INFORMATION, Twinkle Toes.

That's how all your bretheren libtards got smacked in the face on election day, thinking you Dems were gonna keep the Senate.

 

[EconChick]

Oh cool. Is that a picture of me? Awww, it must suck to have one conservative chick grind you limp dicked small brained libs (except for Old School) into the ground with one hand behind my back.

I'd make me out to be a big green monster in your head TOO if I were you.

Laugh My Ass Off.

 

[g5000]

Oh cool. Is that a picture of me? Awww, it must suck to have one conservative chick grind you limp dicked small brained libs (except for Old School) into the ground with one hand behind my back.

I'd make me out to be a big green monster in your head TOO if I were you.

Laugh My Ass Off.

That's your self image.

The way the rest of us see you is a little puppy who might have been cute except it is not housebroken and pees on the keyboard. We could spank you pretty hard, but that would be cruel.

 

[AceRothstein]

So 17 hours since the OP was posted and not one article about this anywhere on the internet.

Here, let me school ya a little bit about how analysis works. YOU DON'T FUCKING RELY ON THE INTERNET FOR INFORMATION, Twinkle Toes.

That's how all your bretheren libtards got smacked in the face on election day, thinking you Dems were gonna keep the Senate.

Ok, every news organization in the world is ignoring this massive story. Your analysis and logic is poor at best.

Are you fucking retarded? I was never under the impression that the Dems were going to keep the Senate, I think the GOP won one seat more than I predicted they would. I don't remember anyone saying that here either.

 

[AceRothstein]

Awww, it must suck to have one conservative chick grind you limp dicked small brained libs (except for Old School) into the ground with one hand behind my back.

I'd make me out to be a big green monster in your head TOO if I were you.

Laugh My Ass Off.

You literally live in your own universe and you are truly delusional.

 

[EconChick]

So 17 hours since the OP was posted and not one article about this anywhere on the internet.

Here, let me school ya a little bit about how analysis works. YOU DON'T FUCKING RELY ON THE INTERNET FOR INFORMATION, Twinkle Toes.

That's how all your bretheren libtards got smacked in the face on election day, thinking you Dems were gonna keep the Senate.

Ok, every news organization in the world is ignoring this massive story. Your analysis and logic is poor at best.

Are you fucking retarded? I was never under the impression that the Dems were going to keep the Senate, I think the GOP won one seat more than I predicted they would. I don't remember anyone saying that here either.

You mean every left leaning Socialist fucking news organization????

Of course THEY are. But not every news organization, idiot. Why do ya think your analysis is so shitty all the time.

As for claiming no lib on here kept denying Rep's would take the Senate......yeahhhhhhh, you're an idiot and a liar. Yeah, I saw a whole bunch of idiot libs throwing in the towel and admitting it was won before election day. Yeahhhh.

It was the opposite, moron. You had desperate libs like Carb and Loner Loser on this very thread.....that posted and posted and posted one liberal lie after another out of desperation they might help keep a Democrat Senate. Idiot. Climb back under your blankie, princess.

 

[Camp]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Did ISIS capture the road from the Airport to the Green Zone or not? What is this thread about? Is it about something? If ISIS captured the road it would mean they are at the gates of the airport and the Green Zone. Do you know the definition of the word capture?

Awww, now I have to admit I did expect a LITTLE bit more from YOU than the average idiot lib on this subject. I thought you were military.

Well, princess, it must've been the Antarctica military you were in because that's one of the dumbest things out of your mouth.

At the gates of the GZ? Are you really that stupid?

Were you even ever IN the country of Iraq? I'm not talking about fantasy videos or Call of Duty video games.

If they were clustered at the gates of the GZ it would be very easy to target them, idiot. That's not how taking control works. What a fucking moron that pretends to understand this topic.

You might fool some of these brainless morons, but you don't fool anyone that's actually spent time on Irish.

You didn't respond to the questions you were asked. Instead you deflected. The gates I referred to are the 9 or 10 check points one must go through between the airport and international zone on the airport road. If you have traveled the route you should know that. A check point was attacked with a suicide car bomb. No one at the check point/gate was injured and it was not captured. And to make it perfectly clear, check points have a gate element or specific area of the check point that is referred to as the gate.

 

[EconChick]

Oh cool. Is that a picture of me? Awww, it must suck to have one conservative chick grind you limp dicked small brained libs (except for Old School) into the ground with one hand behind my back.

I'd make me out to be a big green monster in your head TOO if I were you.

Laugh My Ass Off.

That's your self image.

The way the rest of us see you is a little puppy who might have been cute except it is not housebroken and pees on the keyboard. We could spank you pretty hard, but that would be cruel.

LOL, umm sweety, this is more like my self image. Hair's almost exactly same cut, color and length. I just like using serious avatars for serious subjects.

As you can see, you have my direct quote and your lie ....
and all the world can see there's a huge difference between the two.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Did ISIS capture the road from the Airport to the Green Zone or not? What is this thread about? Is it about something? If ISIS captured the road it would mean they are at the gates of the airport and the Green Zone. Do you know the definition of the word capture?

She's a pathological liar. A textbook case. Have you ever known one? I have. Worked with a guy once who was. He was a running joke with everyone there.

You mean lying when I said we'd kick your ass in the election??? That kind of liar? LMAO.

Or you mean lying when I said median income had fallen under Obummer? And because that was the economic statistic that mattered to most people, Americans would see through the spinning of all the other stats and reject you idiots at the polls? You mean THAT lie? LMFAO.

Or you mean my hundreds of posts schooling you stupid liberal dumbasses on why it was a mistake for Obama to pull out and why he screwed up the SOFA? You mean the one that TWO Secretaries of Defense, two ambassadors, and several generals......all of whom worked for that idiot hero of yours.....completely agreed with me on? Including the Democrat Panetta?

You mean that lie???? Snicker, snort. Speaking of which, you need to lay off the snort Carb. No one believes a thing that comes out of your mouth. Try getting off the bottle and maybe you'll make sense for a change.

Yeahhh, I wasn't the one implying/hoping Dems would win the Senate. That would be the pathetic liars like you, honey.

I mean like lying about this story.

 

[EconChick]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Did ISIS capture the road from the Airport to the Green Zone or not? What is this thread about? Is it about something? If ISIS captured the road it would mean they are at the gates of the airport and the Green Zone. Do you know the definition of the word capture?

Awww, now I have to admit I did expect a LITTLE bit more from YOU than the average idiot lib on this subject. I thought you were military.

Well, princess, it must've been the Antarctica military you were in because that's one of the dumbest things out of your mouth.

At the gates of the GZ? Are you really that stupid?

Were you even ever IN the country of Iraq? I'm not talking about fantasy videos or Call of Duty video games.

If they were clustered at the gates of the GZ it would be very easy to target them, idiot. That's not how taking control works. What a fucking moron that pretends to understand this topic.

You might fool some of these brainless morons, but you don't fool anyone that's actually spent time on Irish.

You didn't respond to the questions you were asked. Instead you deflected. The gates I referred to are the 9 or 10 check points one must go through between the airport and international zone on the airport road. If you have traveled the route you should know that. A check point was attacked with a suicide car bomb. No one at the check point/gate was injured and it was not captured. And to make it perfectly clear, check points have a gate element or specific area of the check point that is referred to as the gate.

That is NOT what you said you fucking liar. Here, I'll paste what you said. For all the world to see. Once again.



"Did ISIS capture the road from the Airport to the Green Zone or not? What is this thread about? Is it about something? If ISIS captured the road it would mean they are at the gates of the airport and the Green Zone. Do you know the definition of the word capture?"

 

[deltex1]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Until the MinC is briefed on it...it hasn't happened. And when he is briefed he will blame it on Bush.

 

[EconChick]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Did ISIS capture the road from the Airport to the Green Zone or not? What is this thread about? Is it about something? If ISIS captured the road it would mean they are at the gates of the airport and the Green Zone. Do you know the definition of the word capture?

She's a pathological liar. A textbook case. Have you ever known one? I have. Worked with a guy once who was. He was a running joke with everyone there.

You mean lying when I said we'd kick your ass in the election??? That kind of liar? LMAO.

Or you mean lying when I said median income had fallen under Obummer? And because that was the economic statistic that mattered to most people, Americans would see through the spinning of all the other stats and reject you idiots at the polls? You mean THAT lie? LMFAO.

Or you mean my hundreds of posts schooling you stupid liberal dumbasses on why it was a mistake for Obama to pull out and why he screwed up the SOFA? You mean the one that TWO Secretaries of Defense, two ambassadors, and several generals......all of whom worked for that idiot hero of yours.....completely agreed with me on? Including the Democrat Panetta?

You mean that lie???? Snicker, snort. Speaking of which, you need to lay off the snort Carb. No one believes a thing that comes out of your mouth. Try getting off the bottle and maybe you'll make sense for a change.

Yeahhh, I wasn't the one implying/hoping Dems would win the Senate. That would be the pathetic liars like you, honey.

I mean like lying about this story.

I don't lie. I spun the truth about Fakey once to teach him a lesson. And even that counted as a non-lie in the land of Bill Clinton.

 

[EconChick]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Until the MinC is briefed on it...it hasn't happened.

Heck, it's even one step beyond that, LOL. MinC can get briefed (like on Gruber), but it doesn't count till he ACKNOWLEDGES it, LOL.

 

[EconChick]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Did ISIS capture the road from the Airport to the Green Zone or not? What is this thread about? Is it about something? If ISIS captured the road it would mean they are at the gates of the airport and the Green Zone. Do you know the definition of the word capture?

She's a pathological liar. A textbook case. Have you ever known one? I have. Worked with a guy once who was. He was a running joke with everyone there.

You mean lying when I said we'd kick your ass in the election??? That kind of liar? LMAO.

Or you mean lying when I said median income had fallen under Obummer? And because that was the economic statistic that mattered to most people, Americans would see through the spinning of all the other stats and reject you idiots at the polls? You mean THAT lie? LMFAO.

Or you mean my hundreds of posts schooling you stupid liberal dumbasses on why it was a mistake for Obama to pull out and why he screwed up the SOFA? You mean the one that TWO Secretaries of Defense, two ambassadors, and several generals......all of whom worked for that idiot hero of yours.....completely agreed with me on? Including the Democrat Panetta?

You mean that lie???? Snicker, snort. Speaking of which, you need to lay off the snort Carb. No one believes a thing that comes out of your mouth. Try getting off the bottle and maybe you'll make sense for a change.

Yeahhh, I wasn't the one implying/hoping Dems would win the Senate. That would be the pathetic liars like you, honey.

I mean like lying about this story.

When are you going to realize your problem is your sources. That's why you get so much wrong.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Oh cool. Is that a picture of me? Awww, it must suck to have one conservative chick grind you limp dicked small brained libs (except for Old School) into the ground with one hand behind my back.

I'd make me out to be a big green monster in your head TOO if I were you.

Laugh My Ass Off.

That's your self image.

The way the rest of us see you is a little puppy who might have been cute except it is not housebroken and pees on the keyboard. We could spank you pretty hard, but that would be cruel.

LOL, umm sweety, this is more like my self image. Hair's almost exactly same cut, color and length. I just like using serious avatars for serious subjects.

As you can see, you have my direct quote and your lie ....
and all the world can see there's a huge difference between the two.

That's supposed to be you? lol