turzovka
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Because I am tired of so-called big shot iconoclasts side-stepping trouble. As well as loony one-dimensional Christians who loathe Catholicism and cannot allow their highly protected 12 word theological “ticket-to-heaven” ever be challenged.
So let us not pretend any longer, shall we? You atheists and agnostics can find your contradictions in Scripture, and your hateful, vengeful God in the Old Testament and keep using those “trump cards” every time you are backed into a corner on another case of solid evidence that says God is real and making Himself known. You will always find a band of nervous unchurched comrades to cheer you on and allow themselves a moment of respite from their eternal fears. You know, those fears we all have? Even Voltaire (*), champion of the counter-culture, admitted despite his total disbelief in God he retained a bedeviling fear that hell could still be real.
And to the hordes of fundamentalists and sola scriptura proponents who bristle at the thought Catholicism could be considered a high expression of Biblical Christianity --- you people disappoint me all the more. Did Jesus not tell His complaining apostles who resented the way other followers were preaching to --- “Leave them alone. If they are not against us they are with us.” ? And yet, because you are so beholden to your one very specific theology, and since you can find a Catholic teaching that you cannot accept, that means Catholicism has to be the work of the devil? 1500 years of lies, no doubt, because you have found just the right words to tell us Jesus did not mean it was HIS body and blood in the Holy Eucharist, and forgiving or holding sins bound was never meant for His ordained? And we worship statues, and the word purgatory is not in the Bible so it is more demonic deception, and praying to the Mother of God is blasphemy? (“From this day forward all generations shall call me blessed… except for Protestants.”)
So Hobelim can preface all his responses with reminding me we are idolaters eating matzo balls, and Campbell can never be convinced of anything because he is too old and has suffered enough at the hands of Christian “teachers.” Guno, whose clown face is so apropos. And Jeremiah who must have received a direct order from God in a dream to destroy the pope and the Catholic Church --- or was it from Jack Chick? Delta4Embassy with his endless ideas of esoteric “what if’s?” confusing no one but himself. The list is not endless, but long, nevertheless. I have learned that it is not they, but I, who is the fool here. Many things a Christian should work towards, but whipping a dead horse is not one of them.
So I hate to tell you this, but there are some who could very likely end up in hell if they remain so vile and hateful towards God. I wish that upon no man, of course. Most (like me) will be purified in purgatory because of our pride or selfishness or laziness or lack of charity. (emphasis on the last one.) I can never tell you why that is, but it very much appears to me that many who have ears to hear refuse to listen. And many who have eyes to see insist on remaining blind. I just hope cowards will no longer side step the troubling facts or questions, for their own sakes. Such as (for ONE EXAMPLE only, there are many) the Shroud of Turin (+). It truly is the burial cloth of Jesus Christ. And who do we have to thank for demonstrating that? Why science, of course. They have created their own tomb, lest they pray for forgiveness to be snatched out its confining darkness.
So now you can pick and choose the one line in this screed you can attack and by all means avoid the troublesome ones. I am quite used to it.
(*) Voltaire was a clever one, I will grant him that -- "If God made us in His image we have certainly returned the compliment." (funny)
(+) http://www.strangenotions.com/is-the-shroud-of-turin-a-genuine-miracle/
So let us not pretend any longer, shall we? You atheists and agnostics can find your contradictions in Scripture, and your hateful, vengeful God in the Old Testament and keep using those “trump cards” every time you are backed into a corner on another case of solid evidence that says God is real and making Himself known. You will always find a band of nervous unchurched comrades to cheer you on and allow themselves a moment of respite from their eternal fears. You know, those fears we all have? Even Voltaire (*), champion of the counter-culture, admitted despite his total disbelief in God he retained a bedeviling fear that hell could still be real.
And to the hordes of fundamentalists and sola scriptura proponents who bristle at the thought Catholicism could be considered a high expression of Biblical Christianity --- you people disappoint me all the more. Did Jesus not tell His complaining apostles who resented the way other followers were preaching to --- “Leave them alone. If they are not against us they are with us.” ? And yet, because you are so beholden to your one very specific theology, and since you can find a Catholic teaching that you cannot accept, that means Catholicism has to be the work of the devil? 1500 years of lies, no doubt, because you have found just the right words to tell us Jesus did not mean it was HIS body and blood in the Holy Eucharist, and forgiving or holding sins bound was never meant for His ordained? And we worship statues, and the word purgatory is not in the Bible so it is more demonic deception, and praying to the Mother of God is blasphemy? (“From this day forward all generations shall call me blessed… except for Protestants.”)
So Hobelim can preface all his responses with reminding me we are idolaters eating matzo balls, and Campbell can never be convinced of anything because he is too old and has suffered enough at the hands of Christian “teachers.” Guno, whose clown face is so apropos. And Jeremiah who must have received a direct order from God in a dream to destroy the pope and the Catholic Church --- or was it from Jack Chick? Delta4Embassy with his endless ideas of esoteric “what if’s?” confusing no one but himself. The list is not endless, but long, nevertheless. I have learned that it is not they, but I, who is the fool here. Many things a Christian should work towards, but whipping a dead horse is not one of them.
So I hate to tell you this, but there are some who could very likely end up in hell if they remain so vile and hateful towards God. I wish that upon no man, of course. Most (like me) will be purified in purgatory because of our pride or selfishness or laziness or lack of charity. (emphasis on the last one.) I can never tell you why that is, but it very much appears to me that many who have ears to hear refuse to listen. And many who have eyes to see insist on remaining blind. I just hope cowards will no longer side step the troubling facts or questions, for their own sakes. Such as (for ONE EXAMPLE only, there are many) the Shroud of Turin (+). It truly is the burial cloth of Jesus Christ. And who do we have to thank for demonstrating that? Why science, of course. They have created their own tomb, lest they pray for forgiveness to be snatched out its confining darkness.
So now you can pick and choose the one line in this screed you can attack and by all means avoid the troublesome ones. I am quite used to it.
(*) Voltaire was a clever one, I will grant him that -- "If God made us in His image we have certainly returned the compliment." (funny)
(+) http://www.strangenotions.com/is-the-shroud-of-turin-a-genuine-miracle/
