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your risk of being killed in a mass shooting are so low as to eb insignificantIt's not even that and your risk of being killed in a mass shooting are so low as to eb insignificantIt may lower the kill rate during mass shootings. Risk reduction. It's all it is.And banning one type of semiautomatic rifle will do absolutely nothing to lower the murder rateThe most radical ideas I have heard are banning assault rifles. You know exactly what they mean, so don't start playing games over it either.And if he didn't have a car he couldn't have gotten to the campus.......
600 million guns, one guy uses one gun illegally...and you want to ban all guns....
You have 12 mass public shootings in 2018....with 93 killed...and you want to ban all guns for all Americans....even though as more Americans own and carry guns our gun murder rate went down 49%, something you can't explain.
Meanwhile...cars killed over 38,000 people and they kill about that many every single year, so according to your logic they need to be banned for everyone.....
Your theories and arguments are foolish....
Banning assault rifles is not banning all guns.
The best way to stop a mass shooting is to not let people with guns into a building.
Banning one weapon when there are countless others that won't be banned and are identical in operation will do absolutely nothing to lower murder rates or the number of mass shootings
Where I live, it is doubly remote. Am I allowed to have some concern for fellow Americans, though, or can I only worry about myself?
I see you cut the Documentary I posted. Why?
Because I don't waste my time on NRA propaganda...
Gun control works just fine if you commit to it. Other countries have proven that.
Well here's a unique thread.
Not only does the OP klown believe the way to fight a fire is to pour gasoline on it, here he is trying to whine that somebody put the fire out without gasoline. Oh woe is us, this is a threat to gun fetishism and blasphemy to Almighty Gun.
SMGDFH
And conversely, if the bad guy DIDN'T have a gun, nobody would have ben shot & killed, either. SO?This hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
21-Year-Old Student Died Trying to 'Jump' on UNCC Gunman, Disarm Him
his hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
Actually, if the nutter who shot all these people didn't have a gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting.
OK. How do you stop criminals from getting guns?
This is a National Geographic Documentary on Ghost Guns.
Manufacturing the guns in the jungles, transported to the US, and sold by illegal arms dealers in California, to known criminals, who intend on using the guns for crimes.
.......you won't be able to stop all criminals from getting ''all'' the guns ''all'' the time/etc--but you can cut it down
example:
very pro-gun St Louis population -- 320,000-- murders about-- 200- higher rate than Chicago
gun controlled NYCity population- 8,000,000 ----murders --292
gun controlled California LOWER murder rate than very pro-gun Missouri
St. Louis Murder Count Stands At 203 After Four Fatal Shootings - KTRS | St Louis News and Talk Radio | The Big 550 AM
Despite recent violence, Chicago is far from the U.S. ‘murder capital’
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...ings-may-be-lowest-in-several-decades-in-2018
ETC
And you lie....you know the truth about St. Louis, yet you still post the lie.....
St. Louis has a high gun murder problem because of decades of democrat party control, where they have, as the reporter below states, a revolving door policy toward violent, repeat gun offenders...
It has nothing to do with normal, law abiding gun owners.........and you also now know that the murder rate is going up in New York now that democrat Mayor Deblasio has gotten rid of the policies lowered the murder rate implemented by Rudy Guiliani......
Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why
Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.
At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.
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Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
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When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.
In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.
And New York.......returning to the old New York....the hell hole...
Murder rate rises 55 percent in New York City, NYPD statistics say
Murder rates in New York City are up 55 percent in 2019 compared to the same time frame in 2018, according to NYPD statistics.
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The surge takes place as overall crime in New York City is down eight percent. The increase in murders is largely credited to a jump in violent crime in Northern Brooklyn. The ten precincts that comprise North Brooklyn have recorded 15 murders in the time frame this year, compared to just three last year -- a 400 percent increase.
The number of shootings that have not resulted in death are on the rise as well, with 22 people shot compared to 13 last year, a 69 percent jump.
And conversely, if the bad guy DIDN'T have a gun, nobody would have ben shot & killed, either. SO?This hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
21-Year-Old Student Died Trying to 'Jump' on UNCC Gunman, Disarm Him
his hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
Actually, if the nutter who shot all these people didn't have a gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting.
OK. How do you stop criminals from getting guns?
This is a National Geographic Documentary on Ghost Guns.
Manufacturing the guns in the jungles, transported to the US, and sold by illegal arms dealers in California, to known criminals, who intend on using the guns for crimes.
.......you won't be able to stop all criminals from getting ''all'' the guns ''all'' the time/etc--but you can cut it down
example:
very pro-gun St Louis population -- 320,000-- murders about-- 200- higher rate than Chicago
gun controlled NYCity population- 8,000,000 ----murders --292
gun controlled California LOWER murder rate than very pro-gun Missouri
St. Louis Murder Count Stands At 203 After Four Fatal Shootings - KTRS | St Louis News and Talk Radio | The Big 550 AM
Despite recent violence, Chicago is far from the U.S. ‘murder capital’
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...ings-may-be-lowest-in-several-decades-in-2018
ETC
And you lie....you know the truth about St. Louis, yet you still post the lie.....
St. Louis has a high gun murder problem because of decades of democrat party control, where they have, as the reporter below states, a revolving door policy toward violent, repeat gun offenders...
It has nothing to do with normal, law abiding gun owners.........and you also now know that the murder rate is going up in New York now that democrat Mayor Deblasio has gotten rid of the policies lowered the murder rate implemented by Rudy Guiliani......
Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why
Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.
At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.
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Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
----
When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.
In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.
And New York.......returning to the old New York....the hell hole...
Murder rate rises 55 percent in New York City, NYPD statistics say
Murder rates in New York City are up 55 percent in 2019 compared to the same time frame in 2018, according to NYPD statistics.
----
The surge takes place as overall crime in New York City is down eight percent. The increase in murders is largely credited to a jump in violent crime in Northern Brooklyn. The ten precincts that comprise North Brooklyn have recorded 15 murders in the time frame this year, compared to just three last year -- a 400 percent increase.
The number of shootings that have not resulted in death are on the rise as well, with 22 people shot compared to 13 last year, a 69 percent jump.
You're absolutely pathetic, even for a partisan parrot-hack.
NO city is under a "party control" and in fact most cities' elections are nonpartisan. Your puerile attempt to sell still-yet-more Ass-ociation Fallacies insults both your readers and yourself.
Know who the last "Republican" mayor of Chicago was? Big Bill Thompson. He got booted for being too cozy with Al Capone. As well as for his bigoted campaign against the ethnic Czech who defeated him. Go make an Ass-ociation Fallacy out of that.
Oh and speaking of Czech, check the makeup of the government of Ferguson Missouri since you bring it up, and make your Ass-ociation Fallacy there too. I'll watch.
his hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
Actually, if the nutter who shot all these people didn't have a gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting.
OK. How do you stop criminals from getting guns?
This is a National Geographic Documentary on Ghost Guns.
Manufacturing the guns in the jungles, transported to the US, and sold by illegal arms dealers in California, to known criminals, who intend on using the guns for crimes.
.......you won't be able to stop all criminals from getting ''all'' the guns ''all'' the time/etc--but you can cut it down
example:
very pro-gun St Louis population -- 320,000-- murders about-- 200- higher rate than Chicago
gun controlled NYCity population- 8,000,000 ----murders --292
gun controlled California LOWER murder rate than very pro-gun Missouri
St. Louis Murder Count Stands At 203 After Four Fatal Shootings - KTRS | St Louis News and Talk Radio | The Big 550 AM
Despite recent violence, Chicago is far from the U.S. ‘murder capital’
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...ings-may-be-lowest-in-several-decades-in-2018
ETC
And you lie....you know the truth about St. Louis, yet you still post the lie.....
St. Louis has a high gun murder problem because of decades of democrat party control, where they have, as the reporter below states, a revolving door policy toward violent, repeat gun offenders...
It has nothing to do with normal, law abiding gun owners.........and you also now know that the murder rate is going up in New York now that democrat Mayor Deblasio has gotten rid of the policies lowered the murder rate implemented by Rudy Guiliani......
Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why
Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.
At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.
-----------
Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
----
When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.
In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.
And New York.......returning to the old New York....the hell hole...
Murder rate rises 55 percent in New York City, NYPD statistics say
Murder rates in New York City are up 55 percent in 2019 compared to the same time frame in 2018, according to NYPD statistics.
----
The surge takes place as overall crime in New York City is down eight percent. The increase in murders is largely credited to a jump in violent crime in Northern Brooklyn. The ten precincts that comprise North Brooklyn have recorded 15 murders in the time frame this year, compared to just three last year -- a 400 percent increase.
The number of shootings that have not resulted in death are on the rise as well, with 22 people shot compared to 13 last year, a 69 percent jump.
You're absolutely pathetic, even for a partisan parrot-hack.
NO city is under a "party control" and in fact most cities' elections are nonpartisan. Your puerile attempt to sell still-yet-more Ass-ociation Fallacies insults both your readers and yourself. To state the obvious there is nothing "party" about deciding which neighborhood gets its trash collected on friggin' Wedensday.
Know who the last "Republican" mayor of Chicago was? Big Bill Thompson. He got booted for being too cozy with Al Capone. As well as for his bigoted campaign against the ethnic Czech who defeated him. Go make an Ass-ociation Fallacy out of that.
Oh and speaking of Czech, check the makeup of the government of Ferguson Missouri since you bring it up, and make your Ass-ociation Fallacy there too. I'll watch.
Actually, if the nutter who shot all these people didn't have a gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting.
OK. How do you stop criminals from getting guns?
This is a National Geographic Documentary on Ghost Guns.
Manufacturing the guns in the jungles, transported to the US, and sold by illegal arms dealers in California, to known criminals, who intend on using the guns for crimes.
.......you won't be able to stop all criminals from getting ''all'' the guns ''all'' the time/etc--but you can cut it down
example:
very pro-gun St Louis population -- 320,000-- murders about-- 200- higher rate than Chicago
gun controlled NYCity population- 8,000,000 ----murders --292
gun controlled California LOWER murder rate than very pro-gun Missouri
St. Louis Murder Count Stands At 203 After Four Fatal Shootings - KTRS | St Louis News and Talk Radio | The Big 550 AM
Despite recent violence, Chicago is far from the U.S. ‘murder capital’
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...ings-may-be-lowest-in-several-decades-in-2018
ETC
And you lie....you know the truth about St. Louis, yet you still post the lie.....
St. Louis has a high gun murder problem because of decades of democrat party control, where they have, as the reporter below states, a revolving door policy toward violent, repeat gun offenders...
It has nothing to do with normal, law abiding gun owners.........and you also now know that the murder rate is going up in New York now that democrat Mayor Deblasio has gotten rid of the policies lowered the murder rate implemented by Rudy Guiliani......
Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why
Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.
At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.
-----------
Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
----
When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.
In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.
And New York.......returning to the old New York....the hell hole...
Murder rate rises 55 percent in New York City, NYPD statistics say
Murder rates in New York City are up 55 percent in 2019 compared to the same time frame in 2018, according to NYPD statistics.
----
The surge takes place as overall crime in New York City is down eight percent. The increase in murders is largely credited to a jump in violent crime in Northern Brooklyn. The ten precincts that comprise North Brooklyn have recorded 15 murders in the time frame this year, compared to just three last year -- a 400 percent increase.
The number of shootings that have not resulted in death are on the rise as well, with 22 people shot compared to 13 last year, a 69 percent jump.
You're absolutely pathetic, even for a partisan parrot-hack.
NO city is under a "party control" and in fact most cities' elections are nonpartisan. Your puerile attempt to sell still-yet-more Ass-ociation Fallacies insults both your readers and yourself. To state the obvious there is nothing "party" about deciding which neighborhood gets its trash collected on friggin' Wedensday.
Know who the last "Republican" mayor of Chicago was? Big Bill Thompson. He got booted for being too cozy with Al Capone. As well as for his bigoted campaign against the ethnic Czech who defeated him. Go make an Ass-ociation Fallacy out of that.
Oh and speaking of Czech, check the makeup of the government of Ferguson Missouri since you bring it up, and make your Ass-ociation Fallacy there too. I'll watch.
Yes...moron, the democrats have been in control of Chicago since 1933, and their attacks on the police, their easy probation on repeat gun offenders, and their light sentences from democrat judges against repeat, violent gun offenders are creating the killings that you see in tiny areas of chicago...you mope.
The most radical ideas I have heard are banning assault rifles. You know exactly what they mean, so don't start playing games over it either.his hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
Actually, if the nutter who shot all these people didn't have a gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting.
And if he didn't have a car he couldn't have gotten to the campus.......
600 million guns, one guy uses one gun illegally...and you want to ban all guns....
You have 12 mass public shootings in 2018....with 93 killed...and you want to ban all guns for all Americans....even though as more Americans own and carry guns our gun murder rate went down 49%, something you can't explain.
Meanwhile...cars killed over 38,000 people and they kill about that many every single year, so according to your logic they need to be banned for everyone.....
Your theories and arguments are foolish....
Banning assault rifles is not banning all guns.
his hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
Actually, if the nutter who shot all these people didn't have a gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting.
OK. How do you stop criminals from getting guns?
This is a National Geographic Documentary on Ghost Guns.
Manufacturing the guns in the jungles, transported to the US, and sold by illegal arms dealers in California, to known criminals, who intend on using the guns for crimes.
.......you won't be able to stop all criminals from getting ''all'' the guns ''all'' the time/etc--but you can cut it down
example:
very pro-gun St Louis population -- 320,000-- murders about-- 200- higher rate than Chicago
gun controlled NYCity population- 8,000,000 ----murders --292
gun controlled California LOWER murder rate than very pro-gun Missouri
St. Louis Murder Count Stands At 203 After Four Fatal Shootings - KTRS | St Louis News and Talk Radio | The Big 550 AM
Despite recent violence, Chicago is far from the U.S. ‘murder capital’
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...ings-may-be-lowest-in-several-decades-in-2018
ETC
And you lie....you know the truth about St. Louis, yet you still post the lie.....
St. Louis has a high gun murder problem because of decades of democrat party control, where they have, as the reporter below states, a revolving door policy toward violent, repeat gun offenders...
It has nothing to do with normal, law abiding gun owners.........and you also now know that the murder rate is going up in New York now that democrat Mayor Deblasio has gotten rid of the policies lowered the murder rate implemented by Rudy Guiliani......
Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why
Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.
At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.
-----------
Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
----
When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.
In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.
And New York.......returning to the old New York....the hell hole...
Murder rate rises 55 percent in New York City, NYPD statistics say
Murder rates in New York City are up 55 percent in 2019 compared to the same time frame in 2018, according to NYPD statistics.
----
The surge takes place as overall crime in New York City is down eight percent. The increase in murders is largely credited to a jump in violent crime in Northern Brooklyn. The ten precincts that comprise North Brooklyn have recorded 15 murders in the time frame this year, compared to just three last year -- a 400 percent increase.
The number of shootings that have not resulted in death are on the rise as well, with 22 people shot compared to 13 last year, a 69 percent jump.
You're absolutely pathetic, even for a partisan parrot-hack.
NO city is under a "party control" and in fact most cities' elections are nonpartisan. Your puerile attempt to sell still-yet-more Ass-ociation Fallacies insults both your readers and yourself. To state the obvious there is nothing "party" about deciding which neighborhood gets its trash collected on friggin' Wedensday.
Know who the last "Republican" mayor of Chicago was? Big Bill Thompson. He got booted for being too cozy with Al Capone. As well as for his bigoted campaign against the ethnic Czech who defeated him. Go make an Ass-ociation Fallacy out of that.
Oh and speaking of Czech, check the makeup of the government of Ferguson Missouri since you bring it up, and make your Ass-ociation Fallacy there too. I'll watch.
And banning one type of semiautomatic rifle will do absolutely nothing to lower the murder rateThe most radical ideas I have heard are banning assault rifles. You know exactly what they mean, so don't start playing games over it either.his hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
Actually, if the nutter who shot all these people didn't have a gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting.
And if he didn't have a car he couldn't have gotten to the campus.......
600 million guns, one guy uses one gun illegally...and you want to ban all guns....
You have 12 mass public shootings in 2018....with 93 killed...and you want to ban all guns for all Americans....even though as more Americans own and carry guns our gun murder rate went down 49%, something you can't explain.
Meanwhile...cars killed over 38,000 people and they kill about that many every single year, so according to your logic they need to be banned for everyone.....
Your theories and arguments are foolish....
Banning assault rifles is not banning all guns.
I wouldn't know . This was conjecture about GUNS or lack of. What any of that has to do with anything? So if we had trucks, that would counter truck attacks? If we had bombs, that would stop suicide bombers? I don't follow.And conversely, if the bad guy DIDN'T have a gun, nobody would have ben shot & killed, either. SO?This hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
21-Year-Old Student Died Trying to 'Jump' on UNCC Gunman, Disarm Him
Yes...had he used a rental truck instead of a gun, he could have killed more people.....the muslim terrorist in France used a rental truck killing 86 people and wounding 435...in 5 minutes of driving.....cost less to rent that truck than to by a gun too....
Yes, I'd much rather see every student packing heat and turning college campuses into the OK Corral.
I wouldn't know . This was conjecture about GUNS or lack of. What any of that has to do with anything?So if we had trucks, that would counter truck attacks? If we had bombs, that would stop suicide bombers? I don't follow.And conversely, if the bad guy DIDN'T have a gun, nobody would have ben shot & killed, either. SO?This hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
21-Year-Old Student Died Trying to 'Jump' on UNCC Gunman, Disarm Him
Yes...had he used a rental truck instead of a gun, he could have killed more people.....the muslim terrorist in France used a rental truck killing 86 people and wounding 435...in 5 minutes of driving.....cost less to rent that truck than to by a gun too....
Explain my logic.. Not too many mass murderers used cars as a weapon. But your point, we should regulate drivers and crack down on bad drivers, THAT'S bad now? Because, irresponsible or criminal misuse something might affect responsible people? Well, that's another fallacy shot down. I disagree heartily.I wouldn't know . This was conjecture about GUNS or lack of. What any of that has to do with anything?So if we had trucks, that would counter truck attacks? If we had bombs, that would stop suicide bombers? I don't follow.And conversely, if the bad guy DIDN'T have a gun, nobody would have ben shot & killed, either. SO?This hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
21-Year-Old Student Died Trying to 'Jump' on UNCC Gunman, Disarm Him
Yes...had he used a rental truck instead of a gun, he could have killed more people.....the muslim terrorist in France used a rental truck killing 86 people and wounding 435...in 5 minutes of driving.....cost less to rent that truck than to by a gun too....
According to your logic, if guns are used in mass public shootings, therefore we need to ban gun...considering there were only 12 in 2018 with 93 killed....then since cars kill over 38,000 people every single year...notice the difference in the number of actual dead? Then according to your logic, all cars now must be banned.....if you make any attempt to be consistent....
Explain my logic.. Not too many mass murderers used cars as a weapon. But your point, we should regulate drivers and crack down on bad drivers, THAT'S bad now? Because, irresponsible or criminal misuse something might affect responsible people? Well, that's another fallacy shot down. I disagree heartily.I wouldn't know . This was conjecture about GUNS or lack of. What any of that has to do with anything?So if we had trucks, that would counter truck attacks? If we had bombs, that would stop suicide bombers? I don't follow.And conversely, if the bad guy DIDN'T have a gun, nobody would have ben shot & killed, either. SO?This hero charged a mass public shooter and tried to stop him. If he had had a gun, he would likely be alive today. This is why gun free zones are stupid policy.....they don't stop mass shooters, and they leave good people, like this hero, unarmed in the fight against a criminal with a gun...
21-Year-Old Student Died Trying to 'Jump' on UNCC Gunman, Disarm Him
Yes...had he used a rental truck instead of a gun, he could have killed more people.....the muslim terrorist in France used a rental truck killing 86 people and wounding 435...in 5 minutes of driving.....cost less to rent that truck than to by a gun too....
According to your logic, if guns are used in mass public shootings, therefore we need to ban gun...considering there were only 12 in 2018 with 93 killed....then since cars kill over 38,000 people every single year...notice the difference in the number of actual dead? Then according to your logic, all cars now must be banned.....if you make any attempt to be consistent....
You seem to be losing perspective here. Please don't lecture me. The guy at UNCC that died defending against the maniac with a gun, he was a trivial nobody (according to you), one of those tiny nobody losses you right off as acceptable. But now, this thread, this message says a gun would have saved him. So isn't this a rather cynical way to both minimize gun violence and milk it at the same time? Gun violence is minimal (I disagree). It's completely unnecessary and avoidable.Explain my logic.. Not too many mass murderers used cars as a weapon. But your point, we should regulate drivers and crack down on bad drivers, THAT'S bad now? Because, irresponsible or criminal misuse something might affect responsible people? Well, that's another fallacy shot down. I disagree heartily.I wouldn't know . This was conjecture about GUNS or lack of. What any of that has to do with anything?So if we had trucks, that would counter truck attacks? If we had bombs, that would stop suicide bombers? I don't follow.And conversely, if the bad guy DIDN'T have a gun, nobody would have ben shot & killed, either. SO?
Yes...had he used a rental truck instead of a gun, he could have killed more people.....the muslim terrorist in France used a rental truck killing 86 people and wounding 435...in 5 minutes of driving.....cost less to rent that truck than to by a gun too....
According to your logic, if guns are used in mass public shootings, therefore we need to ban gun...considering there were only 12 in 2018 with 93 killed....then since cars kill over 38,000 people every single year...notice the difference in the number of actual dead? Then according to your logic, all cars now must be banned.....if you make any attempt to be consistent....
Because, irresponsible or criminal misuse something might affect responsible people?
You want to ban all guns for all people for the misuse of a tiny number of guns by criminals.....that is your screw up. Americans use their legal guns, some 600 million of them for legal purposes....most notably saving lives......while the criminals who cause the problem are constantly released into the public over and over and over again by the democrat party...who then, like you, call for taking guns away from people who don't use them for crime.
You need to focus on keeping repeat....repeat, gun offenders locked up...they are the ones shooting each other and close to 1,500 innocent people a year in crime......leave normal, law abiding gun owners alone.
