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The American citizen you are talking about was out of reach of law enforcement and was actively plotting terrorist attacks on the US. So his death was one in a war, not unconstitutional jurisprudence.
I'll wait for the quotations from the Constitution that say a citizen is entitled to due process except in circumstances A, B, C
So if an American citizen was in Afghanistan and had joined the Taliban and was shooting at our troops, you would expect our troops to say, "Oh. Hey. We can't shoot back at that guy without giving him due process."
You are a fool.
Who said speeding would be the reason? Are you one of those "the government would never turn on its people so we can trust them completely" people?
Or am I one of those sane people who doesn't believe the black helicopters are practicing to...I don't know what. Put us all in camps?
Are the police helicopters Apaches bristling with rockets, missiles, and cannons? No? Then what makes you think their drones will be Predators bristling with Hellfires?
I don't know that they will but I certainly wouldn't rule it out. Have you seen police equipment and vehicles?
Maybe it never happens, I acknowledge that possibility, but the government has done some nasty shit to its own people in the past.
If YOUR child was missing, or had been kidnapped, you better believe YOU would demand a drone with heat sensors be put into the sky to find him/her.
Funny how people hate the government and cops....until THEY need them.
I could demand that the entire US military and the FBI be put on the case, too.
Wanting ain't getting.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
ok try to keep up.So there's your quotation from the Constitution, idiot.
Ok, show me the declaration of war against Yemen.
Beyond that, none of these arguments matter. You are okay with one man having the power to decide who lives and dies? I'll pass on that bullshit even if the Constitution thinks it is great.
ok try to keep up.So there's your quotation from the Constitution, idiot.
Ok, show me the declaration of war against Yemen.
Beyond that, none of these arguments matter. You are okay with one man having the power to decide who lives and dies? I'll pass on that bullshit even if the Constitution thinks it is great.
ok try to keep up.So there's your quotation from the Constitution, idiot.
Ok, show me the declaration of war against Yemen.
Beyond that, none of these arguments matter. You are okay with one man having the power to decide who lives and dies? I'll pass on that bullshit even if the Constitution thinks it is great.
What part of "public danger" do you not understand? I'm here to help.
ok try to keep up.So there's your quotation from the Constitution, idiot.
Ok, show me the declaration of war against Yemen.
Beyond that, none of these arguments matter. You are okay with one man having the power to decide who lives and dies? I'll pass on that bullshit even if the Constitution thinks it is great.
What part of "public danger" do you not understand? I'm here to help.
ok try to keep up.
What part of "public danger" do you not understand? I'm here to help.
LOL PUBLIC DANGER. The guy was in fucking YEMEN. How is that a public danger to Americans?
Again, if you are okay with 1 guy deciding who lives and dies, just say so.
This is far too vague, you need to provide an example or examples. And are we to assume this within the United States?
Well it hasn't happened yet so examples are hard to come by, but yes, within the USA.
Say there is a well armed anti-government militia holed up in the woods?
Say there is a murder suspect in what they believe is an empty house?
Say a car is about to cross the border and the occupants are wanted terrorists?
What part of "public danger" do you not understand? I'm here to help.
LOL PUBLIC DANGER. The guy was in fucking YEMEN. How is that a public danger to Americans?
Again, if you are okay with 1 guy deciding who lives and dies, just say so.
And Saddam Hussein was in Iraq, and the only public he invaded was Kuwaits. Whats your point? We have used our military to become the World Police.
Dont like that? Slash the military budget so we cant do it.
Well it hasn't happened yet so examples are hard to come by, but yes, within the USA.
Say there is a well armed anti-government militia holed up in the woods?
Say there is a murder suspect in what they believe is an empty house?
Say a car is about to cross the border and the occupants are wanted terrorists?
Drones can only be used to surveil, as there is generally no expectation to privacy in public, or even when one is in his own back yard.
Otherwise the notion of law enforcement using drones to kill criminal suspects in the United States is paranoid idiocy.
Well, they use their other weapons to do that so I'm not sure how it is "paranoid idiocy". Are you unaware of police/government sanctioned killings of American citizens?
Drones can only be used to surveil, as there is generally no expectation to privacy in public, or even when one is in his own back yard.
Otherwise the notion of law enforcement using drones to kill criminal suspects in the United States is paranoid idiocy.
Well, they use their other weapons to do that so I'm not sure how it is "paranoid idiocy". Are you unaware of police/government sanctioned killings of American citizens?
You seem to think that the killing of al Queda members in far away lands is a bad thing because some were US Citizens. Fact is when you take up arms against your country, your citizenship does not and should not protect you.
University of Virginia School of Law professor Saikrishna Prakash is an expert on constitutional law and presidential powers.
"I believe the 2001 Authorization [for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists] permits the president to use military force against al-Qaida and the Taliban. If the president determines that a U.S. citizen is a member of either group, he may use military force against that citizen. Apparently the president concluded that al-Awlaki was a member of al-Qaida and he further concluded that an attack was warranted. The president's actions were wholly consistent with domestic law."
Can the U.S. Legally Kill Citizens Abroad?
On the one hand, it seems inconceivable that the U.S. government can go around targeting citizens with drones, regardless of whether that happens inside or outside U.S. territory. On the other hand, it seems inconceivable that the U.S. cannot defend itself against an armed enemy, citizen or non-citizen, using military means such as drones.
So if I prove you wrong and show innocent people have died, what then? You label dead innocent humans "collateral damage" or consider not killing people so a select few can get rich?
Innocent people die in war fuck nuggets .
Oh okay. Show me the declarations of war against the 8 countries we've drone striked in the last 12 months. Since I know you can't do that, show me a crime that some of the dead terrorists committed. Show me a victim.
I mean you don't just believe people who have proven countless times they will lie to you, right?
Police and SWAT teams have become "militarized" for a reason: They're tired of seeing their coworkers needlessly killed. Cops are being ambushed and killed all over the place. Check. Officer Down Memorial Page (ODMP)
Cops dont want to die on duty. They dont care if you are offended by how they dress or what gear and equipment they use. The BEST way to go into a gunfight is the military way. With superior firepower, training and equipment. So...cops and SWAT teams are doing just that. Getting the best training, gear and equipment they can, which so happens to be military stuff. After all, it may not be Baghdad, but a gunfight is a gunfight. 9mm and AK bullets travel the same speed in Kabul as they do in Houston or Detroit.
And, the world is globalizing. And in most countries, the military has historically had a major role in domestic policing. America having the military and police almost exclusively apart from each other is quite unique.
But if you are waiting for the cops to apologize for "militarizing" to prep for all the gunfire they end up recieiving lately, well, dont hold your breathe.
