If the DNC election was "rigged" - how was it "rigged"?

[hunarcy]

FACT: It wasn't rigged - which is why no one can prove it was.

Just because you scream there's no proof doesn't mean there's no proof. It means you're a lying idiot that supports a lying corporate whore.

 

[Norman]

That is laughable on its face. Sanders would have benefited by more debates. There is not a single, sane, non biased person who believes otherwise.

That bizarre claim relies on the reality-defying assumption that Sanders was better at debating.

He wasn't. At best, it was a draw. He got some name recognition from the first couple debates, but you only need a couple debates for that. In the later debates, it was clear he was out of his league, and not having more debates was a mercy to Sanders.

EVERYONE knows that the reason the DNC limited the number of debates was to protect hilary.

That is unarguable save by a biased person such as yourself.

With "EVERYONE" consisting of loopy wingnuts and raving anarchist berniebros.

So, thread summary:

The Hillary-haters, despite being asked many times, were unable to come up with a single example of how the election was "rigged". As usual, they tried to cover for their complete lack of evidence by simply screaming their loopy conspiracy theories over and over at higher volumes.

Hillary-haters, you're not helping you cause with your awful behavior.

The hard-left contingent has showed some especially impressive zeal to commit political suicide. Most everyone now correctly thinks of them as toddlers throwing tantrums.

And the hard right contingent has managed to highlight the links between Trump and Putin. Well done!

The denial and deflection...

 

[RDD_1210]

FACT: It wasn't rigged - which is why no one can prove it was.

Ok let's try this and see if you can be honest with yourself and ultimately with us.....

Election Justice USA released an almost 100 page report on the Democratic Election. Democracy Lost: A Report on the Fatally Flawed 2016 Democratic Primaries.

The following is from the last page of the entire report:
A. CONCLUSIONS
We have aimed to provide an overview of the evidence for various types of fraud and targeted voter suppression impacting the outcomes of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. After covering the legal background and the history of Election Justice USA’s legal actions, our best efforts to combat election fraud and voter suppression, we gave a thorough treatment of:

1) Targeted voter suppression

2) Registration tampering

3) Illegal voter purges

4) Exit polling discrepancies

5) Evidence for voting machine tampering

6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types

Finally, we gave a date-by-date, state-by-state overview of each of these fraud or suppression types at work throughout the course of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator Bernie Sanders as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator Sanders’ campaign.

 

[RDD_1210]

And Lakhota, Keep in mind I am not a con and will be voting for Hillary. But at least know when to recognize that even your own side "stinks".

 

[Lakhota]

FACT: It wasn't rigged - which is why no one can prove it was.

Ok let's try this and see if you can be honest with yourself and ultimately with us.....

Election Justice USA released an almost 100 page report on the Democratic Election. Democracy Lost: A Report on the Fatally Flawed 2016 Democratic Primaries.

The following is from the last page of the entire report:
A. CONCLUSIONS
We have aimed to provide an overview of the evidence for various types of fraud and targeted voter suppression impacting the outcomes of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. After covering the legal background and the history of Election Justice USA’s legal actions, our best efforts to combat election fraud and voter suppression, we gave a thorough treatment of:

1) Targeted voter suppression

2) Registration tampering

3) Illegal voter purges

4) Exit polling discrepancies

5) Evidence for voting machine tampering

6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types

Finally, we gave a date-by-date, state-by-state overview of each of these fraud or suppression types at work throughout the course of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator Bernie Sanders as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator Sanders’ campaign.

Funny. What does that prove? Where are the RNC emails?

 

[Lakhota]

And Lakhota, Keep in mind I am not a con and will be voting for Hillary. But at least know when to recognize that even your own side "stinks".

When the RNC emails are released to the public - then we can make a fair comparison.

 

[hunarcy]

FACT: It wasn't rigged - which is why no one can prove it was.

Ok let's try this and see if you can be honest with yourself and ultimately with us.....

Election Justice USA released an almost 100 page report on the Democratic Election. Democracy Lost: A Report on the Fatally Flawed 2016 Democratic Primaries.

The following is from the last page of the entire report:
A. CONCLUSIONS
We have aimed to provide an overview of the evidence for various types of fraud and targeted voter suppression impacting the outcomes of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. After covering the legal background and the history of Election Justice USA’s legal actions, our best efforts to combat election fraud and voter suppression, we gave a thorough treatment of:

1) Targeted voter suppression

2) Registration tampering

3) Illegal voter purges

4) Exit polling discrepancies

5) Evidence for voting machine tampering

6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types

Finally, we gave a date-by-date, state-by-state overview of each of these fraud or suppression types at work throughout the course of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator Bernie Sanders as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator Sanders’ campaign.

Funny. What does that prove? Where are the RNC emails?

How does anything the RNC sends in e-mails excuse the DNC and how the system was rigged?

 

[Lakhota]

FACT: It wasn't rigged - which is why no one can prove it was.

Ok let's try this and see if you can be honest with yourself and ultimately with us.....

Election Justice USA released an almost 100 page report on the Democratic Election. Democracy Lost: A Report on the Fatally Flawed 2016 Democratic Primaries.

The following is from the last page of the entire report:
A. CONCLUSIONS
We have aimed to provide an overview of the evidence for various types of fraud and targeted voter suppression impacting the outcomes of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. After covering the legal background and the history of Election Justice USA’s legal actions, our best efforts to combat election fraud and voter suppression, we gave a thorough treatment of:

1) Targeted voter suppression

2) Registration tampering

3) Illegal voter purges

4) Exit polling discrepancies

5) Evidence for voting machine tampering

6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types

Finally, we gave a date-by-date, state-by-state overview of each of these fraud or suppression types at work throughout the course of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator Bernie Sanders as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator Sanders’ campaign.

Funny. What does that prove? Where are the RNC emails?

How does anything the RNC sends in e-mails excuse the DNC and how the system was rigged?

Rigged? What laws were broken?

 

[jc456]

Please explain exactly how it was supposedly "rigged" - with "credible" sources that can be verified as fact. Just because the DNC may have "favored" Hillary over Bernie doesn't mean it was "rigged". The DNC "favored" Obama over Hillary in 2008. Bernie wasn't "cheated" out of anything. The DNC election process never changed from beginning to end. Even Bernie said publicly that Hillary won fair and square - which she did. So, stop with the "rigged" shit or explain to us with "credible" sources that can be verified as fact exactly how it was supposedly "rigged".

Shitforbrains refuses to read the DNC emails.

idiot RW's refuse to accept the fact the Democrats can run THEIR party any way they want to.

why was wassermann escorted out? still haven't answered the question.

 

[RDD_1210]

FACT: It wasn't rigged - which is why no one can prove it was.

Ok let's try this and see if you can be honest with yourself and ultimately with us.....

Election Justice USA released an almost 100 page report on the Democratic Election. Democracy Lost: A Report on the Fatally Flawed 2016 Democratic Primaries.

The following is from the last page of the entire report:
A. CONCLUSIONS
We have aimed to provide an overview of the evidence for various types of fraud and targeted voter suppression impacting the outcomes of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. After covering the legal background and the history of Election Justice USA’s legal actions, our best efforts to combat election fraud and voter suppression, we gave a thorough treatment of:

1) Targeted voter suppression

2) Registration tampering

3) Illegal voter purges

4) Exit polling discrepancies

5) Evidence for voting machine tampering

6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types

Finally, we gave a date-by-date, state-by-state overview of each of these fraud or suppression types at work throughout the course of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator Bernie Sanders as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator Sanders’ campaign.

Funny. What does that prove? Where are the RNC emails?

Seriously, why is it funny? What do RNC emails have to do with fraud within the democratic process?

 

[jc456]

FACT: It wasn't rigged - which is why no one can prove it was.

Ok let's try this and see if you can be honest with yourself and ultimately with us.....

Election Justice USA released an almost 100 page report on the Democratic Election. Democracy Lost: A Report on the Fatally Flawed 2016 Democratic Primaries.

The following is from the last page of the entire report:
A. CONCLUSIONS
We have aimed to provide an overview of the evidence for various types of fraud and targeted voter suppression impacting the outcomes of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. After covering the legal background and the history of Election Justice USA’s legal actions, our best efforts to combat election fraud and voter suppression, we gave a thorough treatment of:

1) Targeted voter suppression

2) Registration tampering

3) Illegal voter purges

4) Exit polling discrepancies

5) Evidence for voting machine tampering

6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types

Finally, we gave a date-by-date, state-by-state overview of each of these fraud or suppression types at work throughout the course of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator Bernie Sanders as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator Sanders’ campaign.

Funny. What does that prove? Where are the RNC emails?

How does anything the RNC sends in e-mails excuse the DNC and how the system was rigged?

Rigged? What laws were broken?

laws? you think the democrats utilize laws or rules? it's business ethics.

 

[hunarcy]

FACT: It wasn't rigged - which is why no one can prove it was.

Ok let's try this and see if you can be honest with yourself and ultimately with us.....

Election Justice USA released an almost 100 page report on the Democratic Election. Democracy Lost: A Report on the Fatally Flawed 2016 Democratic Primaries.

The following is from the last page of the entire report:
A. CONCLUSIONS
We have aimed to provide an overview of the evidence for various types of fraud and targeted voter suppression impacting the outcomes of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. After covering the legal background and the history of Election Justice USA’s legal actions, our best efforts to combat election fraud and voter suppression, we gave a thorough treatment of:

1) Targeted voter suppression

2) Registration tampering

3) Illegal voter purges

4) Exit polling discrepancies

5) Evidence for voting machine tampering

6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types

Finally, we gave a date-by-date, state-by-state overview of each of these fraud or suppression types at work throughout the course of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator Bernie Sanders as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator Sanders’ campaign.

Funny. What does that prove? Where are the RNC emails?

How does anything the RNC sends in e-mails excuse the DNC and how the system was rigged?

Rigged? What laws were broken?

You ignorant Hillarybot, who said anything about illegal? RDD provided information from Election USA's report that the system was rigged against Bernie, but no one EVER said it was illegal.

 

[jc456]

In 2008, Hillary supporters (including me) were highly pissed at the DNC for seemingly favoring Obama over Hillary. However, as I recall we were more civil about it than Bernie supporters in 2016.

Some food for thought about 2008...and now...

Hillary Clinton's PUMAs, Once Die-Hard Supporters, Aren't Sold on 2016

why are bernie's supporters mad? oh yeah, they learned the primary was rigged. Doh!!!!

 

[RDD_1210]

I've proved multiple times without a shadow of a doubt that the DNC process was indeed rigged. Lakhota doesn't want to think that her candidate is anything less than perfect, but facts are facts. It's a shame you can't even be honest with yourself.

 

[jc456]

When the DNC who are supposed to be neutral actively put together a strategy to knock down one of the candidates in favor of another, that's rigging the election.

Who says the DNC is "supposed to be neutral"? Why wouldn't the Democratic National Committee promote the Democratic candidate over the independent candidate who would not register as a Democrat?

In many states you couldn't VOTE for either candidate unless you were registered as a Democrat, but Sanders didn't actually have to run as one? How does that make sense?

The DNC themselves say they are suppose to be neutral...

"On behalf of everyone at the DNC, we want to offer a deep and sincere apology to Senator Sanders, his supporters, and the entire Democratic Party for the inexcusable remarks made over email. These comments do not reflect the values of the DNC or our steadfast commitment to neutrality during the nominating process. The DNC does not -- and will not -- tolerate disrespectful language exhibited toward our candidates. Individual staffers have also rightfully apologized for their comments, and the DNC is taking appropriate action to ensure it never happens again."

Democrats.org

Please give it a rest already. They rigged it for her and now she's the nominee. Doesn't make it right or fair but the world isn't fair.

Okay, that's a post apology. That doesn't change my question. Where is it written that the Democratic National Committee must be neutral? Also, doesn't change the FACT that Sanders is not a registered Democrat, unlike many of the people going out to vote in primaries HAD TO BE where he was a Democratic candidate despite that fact.

I just quoted that their values include remaining neutral. That's neutrality within the party. Which part is not making sense? And call Bernie what you want, he was running on the democratic ticket and invited to democrat debates. He deserved the respect of neutrality from the DNC which he did not receive.

Did anything the DNC did cause Sanders to lose?

the bernie supporters think so.

 

[francoHFW]

There is no evidence of any rigging, just irrelevant DNC staffers BSing. The hysteria is over except in the BS GOP bubble.

 

[jc456]

ever since Trump slobbered "rigged" the RW dopes have been doing the same.

Exactly. Has anyone ever heard Trump explain exactly how it was supposedly "rigged" and what laws and/or rules may have been violated? I haven't.

BTW, where are those RNC internal emails? With Trump's tax returns?

dude, it's bernie's supporters, not trumps. you should read up.

 

[jc456]

There is no evidence of any rigging, just irrelevant DNC staffers BSing. The hysteria is over except in the BS GOP bubble.

dude it's been live on every media outlet since sunday. what is it you're thinking here?

 

[jc456]

Please explain exactly how it was supposedly "rigged" - with "credible" sources that can be verified as fact. Just because the DNC may have "favored" Hillary over Bernie doesn't mean it was "rigged". The DNC "favored" Obama over Hillary in 2008. Bernie wasn't "cheated" out of anything. The DNC election process never changed from beginning to end. Even Bernie said publicly that Hillary won fair and square - which she did. So, stop with the "rigged" shit or explain to us with "credible" sources that can be verified as fact exactly how it was supposedly "rigged".

So, you are claiming that having the DNC "superdelegats" in the bag for Hillary from the VERY beginning, that having the Democrats who were flipping coins call the caucuses in Iowa for Hillary EACH time there was a tie wasn't rigging the election, you're as big a liar as Hillary.

I love how the Hillarybots rate my post as funny because they can't honestly acknowledge that the fix was in and Hillary was ordained. However, what they've really done is start the Democratic Party on the road to irrelevance. WE are the future.

And additionally stating how the DNC rigged it for Obama. Dude, that's just too special, especially in the same breath say it wasn't rigged for clinton. you just can't make this stuff up.

 

[Darkwind]

Please explain exactly how it was supposedly "rigged" - with "credible" sources that can be verified as fact. Just because the DNC may have "favored" Hillary over Bernie doesn't mean it was "rigged". The DNC "favored" Obama over Hillary in 2008. Bernie wasn't "cheated" out of anything. The DNC election process never changed from beginning to end. Even Bernie said publicly that Hillary won fair and square - which she did. So, stop with the "rigged" shit or explain to us with "credible" sources that can be verified as fact exactly how it was supposedly "rigged".

Read the emails. you fucking retard.

What laws and/or rules were broken? How was Bernie cheated?

Hey Sloping Brow......

Who said anything about broken rules or laws?

When someone says that a system is 'rigged', they mean it was intentionally fixed to favor a particular outcome.

Maybe some laws were broken, may be not. The DNC, like the RNC, can set whatever rules they wish.

However, the problem is one of confidence of the voter.

Regardless, the number of people who may have cast a vote for Clinton who were Sanders supporters has dropped. How much we will know in time.

I now return you to your normally scheduled haze...