If The Senate shuts this down....

I just spoke to some friends I hadnt talked to for a while tonight. They want Trump's team to insist on Hunter Biden and Schiff taking the stand. So, I think a lot of people want these witnesses now.

I would rather a dismissal. But, it will be fun to see the Bidens up there if the Dems are stupid enough to push for witnesses.
 
Ya gotta ask yer self. Why didn’t the House do it’s fucking job?

You mean like all the subpoenas that were denied by that fucktard?
I think they did their job.
fucking dotard president is obstructing.

Pretty clear case of obstruction.
 
You need to whistle louder past that graveyard. He hasn't gotten anything done..and you better hope Mitch and the rest of the Senate Republicans don't decide it's in their best interest to throw him to the wolves to save the 2020 elections.

So, in your opinion President Donald Trump "hasn't gotten anything done"?

Younger and Minority Workers Lead Wage Gains as Expansion Ages
Oct. 17, 2019, 8:59 AM

A tightening labor market with U.S. unemployment rate at a 50-year low is starting to result in higher wages for full-time workers, including younger people and minorities whose pay has lagged.

Median weekly earnings for Americans in the third quarter rose 3.6% to $919, outpacing inflation, the U.S. Labor Department reported Wednesday. Earnings for those aged 25 to 54, in their prime working years, rose by 5%, the fastest rate of growth in recent years.

Younger and Minority Workers Lead Wage Gains as Expansion Ages

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ECONOMY
Record-low black unemployment cheered by black activists

Published 1 month ago on September 9, 2019

[...]

“Love him or hate him, this is an incredible economic accomplishment for the President and a tremendous benefit for American blacks,” said Project 21 member Derryck Green.

Along with a reported third straight month of 3.7 percent overall unemployment, the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) August jobs report noted that the overall black unemployment rate fell half-a-percent to 5.5 percent. This is the lowest black unemployment rate ever recorded. BLS began reporting employment statistics by race in 1972. And with overall white unemployment at 3.4 percent, it is also the smallest reported gap between the races ever in terms of joblessness. Until recently, the racial employment disparity between blacks and whites has generally held to a 2-1 margin.

Record-low black unemployment cheered by black activists

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Help wanted: Too many jobs and not enough workers in most states
Tim Henderson, Stateline Published 8:00 a.m. CT Oct. 15, 2019 | Updated 7:10 p.m. CT Oct. 15, 2019

In 39 states, there are more jobs than people looking for them, according to a Stateline analysis of June hiring and employment data from the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Help wanted: Too many jobs and not enough workers in most states

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America Created 266,000 Jobs in November
JOHN CARNEY 6 Dec 2019

The imaginary recession of 2019 is over.

The U.S. economy added 266,000 jobs for the month and the unemployment rate fell to 3.5 percent, matching the lowest level in 50 years.

Economists had expected the economy to add 180,000 jobs and for unemployment to remain unchanged at 3.6 percent, according to Econoday.

Adding to the picture of strength for the labor market, previous jobs numbers were revised up. September’s figure was revised up by 13,000 to 193,000. October was revised up by 28,000 to 156,000. Together, that adds 41,000 more jobs than previously reported.
[...]
Average hourly wages are up 3.14 percent compared with last year, above economist expectations. In manufacturing, the average workweek increased by 0.1 hour to 40.5 hours. Average hourly ages of private-sector production and nonsupervisory employees rose by 7 cents in the month to $23.83, a 0.22 percent gain.
[...]
America Created 266,000 Jobs in November | Breitbart

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...economy-added-jobs-jobless-rate-fell-percent/

Wall Street soars after economy added robust 266,000 jobs in November

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USMCA: Agreement reached on Nafta trade deal replacement
10 December 2019

The US, Mexico and Canada have finalised a trade deal that will replace the 25-year-old North American Free Trade Agreement (Nafta).

Agreement reached on Nafta trade deal replacement

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by JOHN CARNEY
20 Dec 2019

The November hiring surge pushed incomes for Americans higher last month.

Incomes rose by half a percentage point in November, above economists’ forecasts and much better than the soft readings in September and October. This was the strongest gain since July, according to data from the Commerce Department on Friday.

Consumer spending rose at a 0.4 percent annual rate last month, led by a jump in spending on big-ticket durable goods like autos and appliances.

The higher spending is not due to rising prices. Inflation, as measured by the Federal Reserve’s preferred price indicator, is still running well below the Fed’s 2 percent target. It came in at just 1.5 percent for November compared with a year ago.

And despite the rise in consumer spending, Americans are saving more. The saving rate edged up to 7.9 percent of after-tax income in November.

Christmas Cheer: Incomes Jumps Higher, Consumer Spending Soars | Breitbart

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US employment remains strong, 145,000 jobs added in December
By JOSH BOAK AP Economics Writer

January 10, 2020, 7:07 PM

U.S. employers downshifted their hiring in December, adding 145,000 jobs as consumer spending appeared to aid gains in the retail and hospitality sectors

US employment remains strong, 145,000 jobs added in December

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Manufacturing Surveys Indicate Growth Returning to U.S. Factories
JOHN CARNEY
16 Jan 2020

The U.S. manufacturing sector appears to be regaining its footing, suggesting the beaten-down sector may once again be expanding.

The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia’s survey-based index of manufacturing activity soared to 17 in January, up from the weak 0.3 reading in December and well-above forecasts for a reading of 3.0.

Manufacturing Surveys Indicate Growth Returning to U.S. Factories | Breitbart

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Merry Christmas: Retail Sales Grew at Healthy Pace in December
16 Jan 2020

Retail sales rose at a healthy pace in December, a sign that a very healthy U.S. labor market and consumer optimism is continuing to support economic growth.

The Commerce Department said Thursday that retail sales–which measures sales at stores, online, and in restaurants–increased a seasonally adjusted three-tenths of a percentage point in December compared with November to $529.6 billion. That was in line with the consensus forecast.

Merry Christmas: Retail Sales Grew at Healthy Pace in December | Breitbart

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US-China phase 1 trade deal: Beijing agrees to buy $200 billion in US products
By Michelle Toh, CNN Business
11 hrs ago [Jan 16. 2020]

China has agreed to buy hundreds of billions of dollars worth of products from the United States as part of their "phase one" trade deal.

The agreement signed Wednesday will have Beijing purchase an additional $200 billion of US goods and services over the next two years.

The increase in purchases will be compared to 2017, before the trade war started. China imported over $185 billion in total US goods and services that year.

In exchange, Washington has agreed to reduce tariffs on $120 billion in Chinese products from 15% to 7.5%.

Taken together, the phased purchases by China would result in a dramatic surge in US exports. Total exports to China would increase to over $260 billion in 2020, and roughly $310 billion in 2021 if the deal holds

US-China phase 1 trade deal: Beijing agrees to buy $200 billion in US products
 
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Markle

trump said that Obama had a net loss of 300,000 jobs in his presidency.
Is this true, or was trump LYING again for the 16,000th time?
 
Markle

trump said that Obama had a net loss of 300,000 jobs in his presidency.
Is this true, or was trump LYING again for the 16,000th time?

Want to go with 16,001?

If it matters to you, look it up on Bing. I don't care.

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Ya gotta ask yer self. Why didn’t the House do it’s fucking job?

You mean like all the subpoenas that were denied by that fucktard?
I think they did their job.
fucking dotard president is obstructing.

Pretty clear case of obstruction.

Dems could have gone to court to force testimony over Executive Privilege but they didn't. Ever wonder why?

It would takes months and they would still lose.
 
You mean like the partisan hit job by the House?
Sucks for Trump all he has in defense is to attack the process like some obviously guilty Mob boss. He is counting entirely on every republican putting him before the party and the country,
Ironic, since you are posting in a thread started on the premise of attacking the process.
I took the OP to be speculation on the open question of how many republican senators will just go along with trying to sweep it all under the rug in spite of the damage it will do to the republican party. The political calculations being done by republicans right now must be a cause of great torment to them. They earned this mess by telling the president he had their unconditional support no matter what.
Not like Dems haven't been squirming since Trump won.
This whole affair is in hopes that they can either force Trump out or create enough dislike to make their candidate look better.

To tell the truth I hope that Trump wins a second term, the house and senate go to the Republicans with enough of a lean that no matter what is proposed the Dems don't have enough to shut it down.

Then just for giggles I would love the house to propose to exhonerarte his impeachment just I could watch Pelosi have a stroke.
We already know republicans want a permanent one-party state and an absolute plutocratic ruler.

Wait, like California?
 
Not like Dems haven't been squirming since Trump won.
This whole affair is in hopes that they can either force Trump out or create enough dislike to make their candidate look better.

To tell the truth I hope that Trump wins a second term, the house and senate go to the Republicans with enough of a lean that no matter what is proposed the Dems don't have enough to shut it down.

Then just for giggles I would love the house to propose to exhonerarte his impeachment just I could watch Pelosi have a stroke.

We already know republicans want a permanent one-party state and an absolute plutocratic ruler.

yea like the democrats dont want one party rule...

Do you speak for all Democrats? Remember, the Democratic Party has been and remains a diverse group. That cannot be said for the Republican Party. Though one time they claimed to be a Big Tent Party, that failed right quickly.
do you?....i worked with enough of your fellow democrats to know exactly what they want.....their party in charge....go ahead deny that wry....

Of course they want power, so does everyone in life. But my point was, the R's want power for the sake of power, and self interest. The D's I know, and that includes several who are or were members of Congress have the same values which I hold - equal rights and equal opportunities for all.

So letting in waves of illegal people is not about power for the sake of power. The D's would happily watch the country burn to get power. You guys are even trying to get the felon vote and 16 yr olds.
 
Right. The guy has been a successful businessman his entire life. Audited God knows how many times by the IRS. Has been involved with international deals and companies. But now that he's President, all of a sudden he's a criminal because the commies said so.

Oooh..successful?..losing all the money his father gave (lent) him?...a decade of real estate losses in the millions??...bankrupted and shuttered casinos?...I'm sorry, how many times has he filed for bankruptcy and gamed the system? How many companies has he lent his name (only) to and they've gone belly up?..Trump Steaks, Vodka, etc, etc....the financial success of Trump University? I'm here all night, I could go on and on.

Face it. He doesn't want people to see his tax records because they would expose him as a fraud. Money loser. Minuses are what those brackets on your tax returns represent.
A legacy of failure...until...he started investing with the Russians...coincidence?...I think not. :)

Donald Trump has filed business bankruptcies three times in his career. Not a good record if he only owned or operated a couple of businesses. However Donald Trump has owned or operated over 500 in his career. You don't become a financial success by consistent failures. And any business investor will tell you that it's unrealistic to expect every investment you make to be a success.


Six. And I have to say, this link is pretty fair to him.
But...he's a fraud. Like it or not, he's the guy who comes over to your house, drinks your beer, sleeps with your wife, knocks over your garbage cans, then signs a book about him being a deal maker and you thinking like you've won the lottery.

Donald Trump's Bankruptcies

As you know, Donald Trump has never declared bankruptcy.

I think there were four but for the sake of argument, say there were six corporations he had ownership in that went bankrupt over the 50 years he has been in business.

Today he is a multibillionaire with ownership in or has licensed the use of his name on over 500 companies. How many total businesses has he owned or had part ownership over the past 50 years?

Six is 1.2% of the 500, whew, 98+% success is pretty good in my book!

Again, six bankruptcies...fail. And you are glossing over all the companies he lent his name to and they went the way of the dinosaur...or were an abject failure...oh...sure..just like his presidency.

He's good at golf courses...not really a surprise given the amount of time he's spent at his own.
Those bankruptcies on his part were actually chapter 13. Since obviously you know nothing about finance a chapter thirteen is a restructuring of debt. It allows for debts to be paid over a longer period of time. There are hundreds of companies that have used chapter 13. General Electric for one. Famous people have also used it. Walt Disney, Marvin Gaye.

The companies that he licencsed his name to he had no control over.
Wanting to blame him for that is like suing a passenger in a car because the driver hit you.
 
Sucks for Trump all he has in defense is to attack the process like some obviously guilty Mob boss. He is counting entirely on every republican putting him before the party and the country,
Ironic, since you are posting in a thread started on the premise of attacking the process.
I took the OP to be speculation on the open question of how many republican senators will just go along with trying to sweep it all under the rug in spite of the damage it will do to the republican party. The political calculations being done by republicans right now must be a cause of great torment to them. They earned this mess by telling the president he had their unconditional support no matter what.
Not like Dems haven't been squirming since Trump won.
This whole affair is in hopes that they can either force Trump out or create enough dislike to make their candidate look better.

To tell the truth I hope that Trump wins a second term, the house and senate go to the Republicans with enough of a lean that no matter what is proposed the Dems don't have enough to shut it down.

Then just for giggles I would love the house to propose to exhonerarte his impeachment just I could watch Pelosi have a stroke.
We already know republicans want a permanent one-party state and an absolute plutocratic ruler.

Wait, like California?
There are still a lot of potential conservative voters in California but since the republican party is now openly hostile and constantly insulting to California on every level I do not see them coming back anytime soon.
 
Totally agree. At this point, I think Americans are so sick of these leftist antics they want them all gone. Hopefully I'm correct. BuzzBerg can't hold on another five years. She's barely making it now.
At the moment, the American public is actually a little more sick of the tactics and antics of the right and especially this President, according to polling. Senate is walking tightrope, having to care about visible image or fairness or lack there of, being burned into the minds of the electorate. The image presented may very last through the election. There is the real possibility, they will win the battle, and at the same time assure the losing of the war and possibly the electability party itself.

You can keep that dream if you like. Nobody is pissed at the Republicans because they are not playing games. Once they vote to acquit, they won't be smiling and passing out $2,000 pens as souvenirs. They won't be putting on a stage show like marching in lockstep like little Nazi's.
Maybe. Going to be an interesting year.

It will be more than an interesting year. Because as the polls keep telling us BS how Trump is barely holding on to half of the country, Trump rallies are still packing them in arenas with standing room outside only. The Democrat contenders can sometimes not pack an elementary school cafeteria.

Shocking 57.9% of attendees at President’s rally in Milwaukee were NOT Republicans
I go to packed rock concerts, but would be foolish enough to vote the misguided singer or his band into public office. I am not impressed.

When a band regularly plays packed out arenas with tens of thousands of fans whole other bands can't fill a small bar, it is safe to say that the first band is more popular than the others. In your analogy, Trump is a rock star while the democrat clown car inhabitants are a garage band.
 
At the moment, the American public is actually a little more sick of the tactics and antics of the right and especially this President, according to polling. Senate is walking tightrope, having to care about visible image or fairness or lack there of, being burned into the minds of the electorate. The image presented may very last through the election. There is the real possibility, they will win the battle, and at the same time assure the losing of the war and possibly the electability party itself.

You can keep that dream if you like. Nobody is pissed at the Republicans because they are not playing games. Once they vote to acquit, they won't be smiling and passing out $2,000 pens as souvenirs. They won't be putting on a stage show like marching in lockstep like little Nazi's.
Maybe. Going to be an interesting year.

It will be more than an interesting year. Because as the polls keep telling us BS how Trump is barely holding on to half of the country, Trump rallies are still packing them in arenas with standing room outside only. The Democrat contenders can sometimes not pack an elementary school cafeteria.

Shocking 57.9% of attendees at President’s rally in Milwaukee were NOT Republicans
The media is downplaying Trumps Actual popularity and the landslide coming this year is going to be massive..
Hold that thought and try not to get lost in the woods, Billybob. Maybe you will find your way out. Trump is not what America is supposed to look like. God save us from the one party system, where everyone else is assumed evil. It is not what the framer had in mind.
The only idiots trying to be one party rule are you demcorats... Tell me again how many republicans voted for your abominations called articles of impeachment? What law was broken?
 
Ya gotta ask yer self. Why didn’t the House do it’s fucking job?

You mean like all the subpoenas that were denied by that fucktard?
I think they did their job.
fucking dotard president is obstructing.

Pretty clear case of obstruction.

Dems could have gone to court to force testimony over Executive Privilege but they didn't. Ever wonder why?

It would takes months and they would still lose.
Trump has yet to claim executive privilege.

It would take years and they’d win but by then it wouldn’t matter.
 
At the moment, the American public is actually a little more sick of the tactics and antics of the right and especially this President, according to polling. Senate is walking tightrope, having to care about visible image or fairness or lack there of, being burned into the minds of the electorate. The image presented may very last through the election. There is the real possibility, they will win the battle, and at the same time assure the losing of the war and possibly the electability party itself.

You can keep that dream if you like. Nobody is pissed at the Republicans because they are not playing games. Once they vote to acquit, they won't be smiling and passing out $2,000 pens as souvenirs. They won't be putting on a stage show like marching in lockstep like little Nazi's.
Maybe. Going to be an interesting year.

It will be more than an interesting year. Because as the polls keep telling us BS how Trump is barely holding on to half of the country, Trump rallies are still packing them in arenas with standing room outside only. The Democrat contenders can sometimes not pack an elementary school cafeteria.

Shocking 57.9% of attendees at President’s rally in Milwaukee were NOT Republicans
I go to packed rock concerts, but would be foolish enough to vote the misguided singer or his band into public office. I am not impressed.

When a band regularly plays packed out arenas with tens of thousands of fans whole other bands can't fill a small bar, it is safe to say that the first band is more popular than the others. In your analogy, Trump is a rock star while the democrat clown car inhabitants are a garage band.
Did Trump attract bigger crowds than Clinton in 2016? I think he did. Mostly because people liked the circus atmosphere, I think.

But Clinton still won millions of more votes.
 
yea like the democrats dont want one party rule...

Do you speak for all Democrats? Remember, the Democratic Party has been and remains a diverse group. That cannot be said for the Republican Party. Though one time they claimed to be a Big Tent Party, that failed right quickly.
do you?....i worked with enough of your fellow democrats to know exactly what they want.....their party in charge....go ahead deny that wry....

Of course they want power, so does everyone in life. But my point was, the R's want power for the sake of power, and self interest. The D's I know, and that includes several who are or were members of Congress have the same values which I hold - equal rights and equal opportunities for all.

yea sure wry....democrats dont want power for the sake of power and self interest....they sure stuck a flag in your ass...

Wow, you too drop your anchor in that safe harbor. Personal attacks are the flag of surrender.
if you did not have that flag there you would not have said what you said...
 

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