If you didn't support Trump in 2016 do you regret it and will you support him in 2020

[iamwhatiseem]

Curious to see how many like me voted for someone else (Walker in my case) but will support him this time around.

2016 was the first Presidential election I abstained since 1984.
I couldn't do it. I sure as hell wasn't voting for one of the most corrupt politicians in Washington, but couldn't vote for an ex reality TV star/Real Estate mogul either.
Trump has done a lot better than I would have thought. He still gets on my nerves, and I still believe his ego plays far too much of a role in his decision making process.
Having said that - I 100% supported the fact a non establishment candidate won. That is a HUGE thing to celebrate.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

Without honor? How are they any LESS honorable than the democratic party? How about name a democrat that is "honorable."

I will admit, I am less than impressed with the honor involved in tactics applied to Kavanaugh. Maybe failure to even allow a hearing for Obama's supreme court nominee for 10 months prior to the election is when both sides decided the gloves came off.

Or how the left absolutely demonizes any republican running for office - Sara Palin, Romney, McCain, etc., etc. I mean, they were really brutal to Sara Palin and her family, even going so low as to make fun of her disabled baby boy. Yuck, they are just disgusting, have absolutely NO integrity or honor and never had, since I've been following politics. They push identity politics on us constantly, and don't you DARE disagree. I've had it with them.

The Democrat party are supposedly the party that promotes female causes, and celebrates their success......that is until they find females not marching in lockstep like Palin and Condi Rice. Then they are the demon incarnate.

 

[White 6]

When?

You said "anti-white party" which to a liberal means the "white party" because they like to project their racism onto everyone else.

Since most dem politicians are also white, I doubt if they really want that. That is what they want their voters to believe, but I'm sure they don't want to see themselves become a minority either. They are just pandering as usual.

Question. Would you say that most white racist vote Republican and support Trump, while most black racist vote democrat and will support whoever the Dem of the moment is? Or is that completely off base?

Of course white racists will vote against the Democrat party, and all whites really should. As I already stated, the Democrat party became the anti-white party. Who in their right mind would support a party that is trying to politically wipe them off the face of this country?

Wake up Ray. If, as you say, the Democrat party is the anti-white party, why would white racists support that party. Under your theory, that would be like the KKK joining the Black Panthers. I don't think so, although I can understand why non-leadership Republican party follower, as yourself would hope the white racist folk would join and support the other party. They will embarrass you time and time again.

Who said white racists did support the Democrats? I didn't. If anything, they'd be against the Democrats like every aware white person should be.

So I misunderstood. I agree. White racists support Trump and the new Republican party white power on the down-low. You guys need a purge. Don't bitch at me, I'm just sayin.

 

[SAYIT]

Well said, but in 72 they took a reasoned approach, did not label the opposition as the enemy of the Republican party,

So who started that?

Not sure. By the time I realized what a$$holes in manner and civility the two parties had become, it was well enough established, I knew not, who to pint the finger toward. Doesn't matter. Democrats have always been more a populous party. The Republican a bit more restrained. If there are no adults in the room, kids, never progressing past adolescence will F#uck everything. Just look at the impressive AOC.

I don't think the Republican leaders ever considered Democrats as the enemy. It's quite the other way around. Political bloggers such as myself? Without a doubt I see them as the enemy.

Why? Because they are basically power hungry Socialists. The Communists stated decades ago they would take over the United States of America, but they will do so without one shot being fired. They will takeover from within, and that's what we see with the Democrat party today.

Bottom line is I see a party that wants to dismantle this country, and reassemble it to mirror other Socialist shitholes. I don't want to see that happen to my country. People who want that kind of system already have places they can go to live it for a while. They can go to Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea. And when they find it's not what it was cracked up to be, they can always come home to the good ole United States of America, if their new country lets them.

But once you change this place and find out it's not what you thought it would be, there is no other USA to move back to. It will be gone forever. There will be no place left to go, because the United States in it's current form is unique and unduplicated. There is no other country like it in the world. We are the only one. So let's not surrender it.

We have very real examples of what the Dems do to this country given the op.

https://www.investors.com/politics/...cratic-rule-ruined-some-of-our-finest-cities/

Democrats destroy the California Dream

 

[SAYIT]

When?

You said "anti-white party" which to a liberal means the "white party" because they like to project their racism onto everyone else.

Since most dem politicians are also white, I doubt if they really want that. That is what they want their voters to believe, but I'm sure they don't want to see themselves become a minority either. They are just pandering as usual.

Question. Would you say that most white racist vote Republican and support Trump, while most black racist vote democrat and will support whoever the Dem of the moment is? Or is that completely off base?

Of course white racists will vote against the Democrat party, and all whites really should. As I already stated, the Democrat party became the anti-white party. Who in their right mind would support a party that is trying to politically wipe them off the face of this country?

Wake up Ray. If, as you say, the Democrat party is the anti-white party, why would white racists support that party. Under your theory, that would be like the KKK joining the Black Panthers. I don't think so, although I can understand why non-leadership Republican party follower, as yourself would hope the white racist folk would join and support the other party. They will embarrass you time and time again.

Who said white racists did support the Democrats? I didn't. If anything, they'd be against the Democrats like every aware white person should be.

Like every loyal American should be.

 

[SAYIT]

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donny is THE president. he's not MY president because he believes anybody that
criticizes him is the enemy. he's such a snowflake.

Who would you vote for in 2020? Do share? Warren? Sanders? LOL

the field is way too broad & i have more debates to watch. bernie is not really on my radar, nor is biden.

One of those two is likely to win the nomination. Will you then vote for them over Trump? I have no idea how anyone other than a free-loader could vote for Sanders.

i learned what voting 3rd party or not voting at all did in 2000. no, i will not vote for trump because i have watched his vile behavior for decades. his policies are detrimental.

Trump's policies are DIRECTLY responsible for 3 years of American success & prosperity which, as we all know, bugs the hell out of leftarded twats. Bill Maher made clear just how deep and all-consuming is their hate:

Liberal Media Scream: Bill Maher cheers economic collapse if it dooms Trump
“I’ve been hoping for a recession — people hate me for it — but it would get rid of Trump, so you shouldn’t hate me for it.”
To which, Barro noted: “Recessions are really bad. People lose their jobs and their homes.”
Maher doubled down: “I know. It’s worth it.”

Maher prays for a recession that will hurt millions of Americans simply because his butt hurts. That kind of disdain & disloyalty - when turned into action - is seditious, especially among those sworn to uphold our laws and our constitution.

 

[ChrisL]

You said "anti-white party" which to a liberal means the "white party" because they like to project their racism onto everyone else.

Since most dem politicians are also white, I doubt if they really want that. That is what they want their voters to believe, but I'm sure they don't want to see themselves become a minority either. They are just pandering as usual.

Question. Would you say that most white racist vote Republican and support Trump, while most black racist vote democrat and will support whoever the Dem of the moment is? Or is that completely off base?

Of course white racists will vote against the Democrat party, and all whites really should. As I already stated, the Democrat party became the anti-white party. Who in their right mind would support a party that is trying to politically wipe them off the face of this country?

Wake up Ray. If, as you say, the Democrat party is the anti-white party, why would white racists support that party. Under your theory, that would be like the KKK joining the Black Panthers. I don't think so, although I can understand why non-leadership Republican party follower, as yourself would hope the white racist folk would join and support the other party. They will embarrass you time and time again.

Who said white racists did support the Democrats? I didn't. If anything, they'd be against the Democrats like every aware white person should be.

So I misunderstood. I agree. White racists support Trump and the new Republican party white power on the down-low. You guys need a purge. Don't bitch at me, I'm just sayin.

Seriously? How would you do a "purge?" Are you going to deny those people a right to vote or to support the candidate of their choice? Racism is not good and it takes a totally ignorant jerk to treat a person badly because of their skin color or whatever, but it is NOT the fucking crime of the century either. As long as they aren't harming anyone else, they are as much entitled to their opinions as anyone.

 

[White 6]

Damn. That's a hard one. I am not sure. Society is changing, no doubt. No. He is not the cause. He is the product of the effect. I do not think he has dealt with it in the best interest of the nation as an entity, definitely not as a civil society. Remember that movie where Michael J Fox gave that speech to the President saying something like "people thirst for good leadership, like a dying man crawling across the desert and not finding it only the mirage, they'll drink the sand"? That is what happened. We thirst for leadership every 4 years. 2016 there was no leaders that showed up, so we drank the sand.

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

Without honor? How are they any LESS honorable than the democratic party? How about name a democrat that is "honorable."

I will admit, I am less than impressed with the honor involved in tactics applied to Kavanaugh. Maybe failure to even allow a hearing for Obama's supreme court nominee for 10 months prior to the election is when both sides decided the gloves came off.

Or how the left absolutely demonizes any republican running for office - Sara Palin, Romney, McCain, etc., etc. I mean, they were really brutal to Sara Palin and her family, even going so low as to make fun of her disabled baby boy. Yuck, they are just disgusting, have absolutely NO integrity or honor and never had, since I've been following politics. They push identity politics on us constantly, and don't you DARE disagree. I've had it with them.

Chrisi, she fit in with the new nutball right. You could (if you felt charitable) say she was ahead of her time. I thought she was a flake, and I'm was not part of the left. A lot of people like me were on the, the McCain Train, had donated. thought highly of him, and then this move out of nowhere. It was poor judgement and an unforced infield error.

 

[ChrisL]

Well said, but in 72 they took a reasoned approach, did not label the opposition as the enemy of the Republican party,

So who started that?

Not sure. By the time I realized what a$$holes in manner and civility the two parties had become, it was well enough established, I knew not, who to pint the finger toward. Doesn't matter. Democrats have always been more a populous party. The Republican a bit more restrained. If there are no adults in the room, kids, never progressing past adolescence will F#uck everything. Just look at the impressive AOC.

I don't think the Republican leaders ever considered Democrats as the enemy. It's quite the other way around. Political bloggers such as myself? Without a doubt I see them as the enemy.

Why? Because they are basically power hungry Socialists. The Communists stated decades ago they would take over the United States of America, but they will do so without one shot being fired. They will takeover from within, and that's what we see with the Democrat party today.

Bottom line is I see a party that wants to dismantle this country, and reassemble it to mirror other Socialist shitholes. I don't want to see that happen to my country. People who want that kind of system already have places they can go to live it for a while. They can go to Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea. And when they find it's not what it was cracked up to be, they can always come home to the good ole United States of America, if their new country lets them.

But once you change this place and find out it's not what you thought it would be, there is no other USA to move back to. It will be gone forever. There will be no place left to go, because the United States in it's current form is unique and unduplicated. There is no other country like it in the world. We are the only one. So let's not surrender it.

We have very real examples of what the Dems do to this country given the op.

https://www.investors.com/politics/...cratic-rule-ruined-some-of-our-finest-cities/

Democrats destroy the California Dream

If San Francisco isn't proof that dem policies are self destructive . . .

 

[White 6]

Trump hasn't favored any particular group of people since he took office. What do you mean by Trump is for them whites???

You just said trump is the white party.

When?

You said "anti-white party" which to a liberal means the "white party" because they like to project their racism onto everyone else.

Since most dem politicians are also white, I doubt if they really want that. That is what they want their voters to believe, but I'm sure they don't want to see themselves become a minority either. They are just pandering as usual.

Question. Would you say that most white racist vote Republican and support Trump, while most black racist vote democrat and will support whoever the Dem of the moment is? Or is that completely off base?

How the hell would I know? It's not my business who other people vote for.

Nice pass. Ray picked up the ball and provided the answer, I had assumed.

 

[ChrisL]

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

Without honor? How are they any LESS honorable than the democratic party? How about name a democrat that is "honorable."

I will admit, I am less than impressed with the honor involved in tactics applied to Kavanaugh. Maybe failure to even allow a hearing for Obama's supreme court nominee for 10 months prior to the election is when both sides decided the gloves came off.

Or how the left absolutely demonizes any republican running for office - Sara Palin, Romney, McCain, etc., etc. I mean, they were really brutal to Sara Palin and her family, even going so low as to make fun of her disabled baby boy. Yuck, they are just disgusting, have absolutely NO integrity or honor and never had, since I've been following politics. They push identity politics on us constantly, and don't you DARE disagree. I've had it with them.

Chrisi, she fit in with the new nutball right. You could (if you felt charitable) say she was ahead of her time. I thought she was a flake, and I'm was not part of the left. A lot of people like me were on the, the McCain Train, had donated. thought highly of him, and then this move out of nowhere. It was poor judgement and an unforced infield error.

Why do you say that about her? Because she is a religious, family oriented woman? Her policies were right in line with McCain's which is why he chose her as a running mate (and because she was a woman).

 

[ChrisL]

You just said trump is the white party.

When?

You said "anti-white party" which to a liberal means the "white party" because they like to project their racism onto everyone else.

Since most dem politicians are also white, I doubt if they really want that. That is what they want their voters to believe, but I'm sure they don't want to see themselves become a minority either. They are just pandering as usual.

Question. Would you say that most white racist vote Republican and support Trump, while most black racist vote democrat and will support whoever the Dem of the moment is? Or is that completely off base?

How the hell would I know? It's not my business who other people vote for.

Nice pass. Ray picked up the ball and provided the answer, I had assumed.

It's not a pass. How in the hell would I know who other people are voting for? I don't and neither do you.

 

[SAYIT]

Pioneer Courthouse Square in Portland Oregon and you could have copied and Googled it in less time than it took to type your STUPID response. Are you also dim enough to believe angry, bitter, petulant haters like you don't publicly burn the US flag?

i never said i didn't believe assholes on the left don't burn flags...

Then why did you bother to challenge the location of that flag burning? Even if it had been done in another country would it have changed the fact that your idiot leftarded comrades - like you - are just petulant little children having childish hissy-fits?

Yanno ... you've made clear that you just aren't very bright.

 

[ChrisL]

<yawn>

Need me to call your sponsor?

how profound.

I am trying to help.

Don't bother. It's a lost cause. That poster is a perfect example of why I hate leftists.

tsk tsk, you make jesus cry.

YOU need help.

 

[ChrisL]

You said "anti-white party" which to a liberal means the "white party" because they like to project their racism onto everyone else.

Since most dem politicians are also white, I doubt if they really want that. That is what they want their voters to believe, but I'm sure they don't want to see themselves become a minority either. They are just pandering as usual.

Question. Would you say that most white racist vote Republican and support Trump, while most black racist vote democrat and will support whoever the Dem of the moment is? Or is that completely off base?

Of course white racists will vote against the Democrat party, and all whites really should. As I already stated, the Democrat party became the anti-white party. Who in their right mind would support a party that is trying to politically wipe them off the face of this country?

Wake up Ray. If, as you say, the Democrat party is the anti-white party, why would white racists support that party. Under your theory, that would be like the KKK joining the Black Panthers. I don't think so, although I can understand why non-leadership Republican party follower, as yourself would hope the white racist folk would join and support the other party. They will embarrass you time and time again.

Who said white racists did support the Democrats? I didn't. If anything, they'd be against the Democrats like every aware white person should be.

So I misunderstood. I agree. White racists support Trump and the new Republican party white power on the down-low. You guys need a purge. Don't bitch at me, I'm just sayin.

So tell me, what republican policies you support. Thanks.

 

[SAYIT]

Who said white racists did support the Democrats? I didn't. If anything, they'd be against the Democrats like every aware white person should be.

So I misunderstood. I agree. White racists support Trump and the new Republican party white power on the down-low...

Or they support anyone who isn't an America-hating twit (pronounced: "Democrat").

You know … the enemy of America's enemy is my friend?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Have another. AA is calling

<yawn>

Need me to call your sponsor?

how profound.

I am trying to help.

you need help.

To fix your addiction? Yes I do.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

<yawn>

Need me to call your sponsor?

how profound.

I am trying to help.

Don't bother. It's a lost cause. That poster is a perfect example of why I hate leftists.

tsk tsk, you make jesus cry.

Jesus? Sounds like an illegal from Latin America.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I meant *or. Stupid typo. I agree. Trump is the effect. Many whom I know did it as a FU to the PC culture Leftists I doubt they are alone who thought that way

Do you have a theory of what happened to the Republican party. I started voting mostly republican starting with Richard Nixon and voting Lamar Alexander for Governor back in 72. I do not recognize that party anymore. It is a party of today, appearing almost totally without honor, moving as a rubber stamp. Do they really support his leadership or is it just agenda goals and power?

Without honor? How are they any LESS honorable than the democratic party? How about name a democrat that is "honorable."

I will admit, I am less than impressed with the honor involved in tactics applied to Kavanaugh. Maybe failure to even allow a hearing for Obama's supreme court nominee for 10 months prior to the election is when both sides decided the gloves came off.

Or how the left absolutely demonizes any republican running for office - Sara Palin, Romney, McCain, etc., etc. I mean, they were really brutal to Sara Palin and her family, even going so low as to make fun of her disabled baby boy. Yuck, they are just disgusting, have absolutely NO integrity or honor and never had, since I've been following politics. They push identity politics on us constantly, and don't you DARE disagree. I've had it with them.

Chrisi, she fit in with the new nutball right. You could (if you felt charitable) say she was ahead of her time. I thought she was a flake, and I'm was not part of the left. A lot of people like me were on the, the McCain Train, had donated. thought highly of him, and then this move out of nowhere. It was poor judgement and an unforced infield error.

McCain as I recall didn’t really fight. I did not care about politics until I had kids and saw how messed up our country had become and largely due to Leftists and their PC culture.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Need me to call your sponsor?

how profound.

I am trying to help.

Don't bother. It's a lost cause. That poster is a perfect example of why I hate leftists.

tsk tsk, you make jesus cry.

YOU need help.

She is on a bender. Ignore her.