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Answer the question.....how did Australia's gun laws stop all of those shootings from becoming mass public shootings?
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If you think arming teachers is a solution to school shootings then you are either dumb or insane
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Answer the question.....how did Australia's gun laws stop all of those shootings from becoming mass public shootings?
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LOLYes so clearly it is best to have gun control. Arm killers with really dangerous guns and many are going to die.
Allow people to rent trucks and more people will die.....
There are easy answers to that problem.
City adding 1,500 barriers to prevent vehicle terror attacks
Moron......they simply run over people before they get behind the barriers........troll....
Sure they do.
Australia eliminated mass shootings with gun control, it wasn't replaced by people killing with trucks. It is interesting you want killers to have every option available. Are you one of those Russians? You seem to want lots of death in the USA.
Liar......you know, because you have been shown this list repeatedly, Australian gun control did not stop mass shootings there......
The following list shows individuals in public spaces shooting people.......the only reason they aren't mass public shootings is the shooter either didn't decide to shoot more people, or the people he did shoot didn't die.....
Not one Australian gun control law stopped these shootings from becoming mass public shootings...
Here is a list of shootings in Australia...notice, they are all after they banned and confiscated guns...tell me....how did Australian gun laws stop these from becoming mass shootings?
I will quote a few....read the rest....
Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia
If he had decided to keep shooting...would Australian gun laws have kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
Tell me...this doesn't count as a mass shooting...only because more of the victims didn't die...7 people shot......did Australian gun laws stop it from being a mass shooting?
Another one.....this shooter couldn't clear his rifle...so he only killed 2...the new standard for a mass shooting incident is 3 dead victims...so how did Australian gun laws keep this from being a mass shooting...rather than just dumb luck....?
- 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
And had this guy decided to keep shooting.....would Australian gun laws have stopped him? And kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
Can you see that CNN's article is just wrong....that it implies that Australian gun control has ended their mass shootings...and that that is a lie?
- 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
And more....
- 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
this guy actually went into a mall......with a gun......after they banned and confiscated them...so tell me how this doesn't show that the CNN article is a lie....
- 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
How did Australian gun control laws keep this shooting from being a muslim terrorist mass shooting? An immigrant to Australia got a gun in a country where they banned and confiscated them and now claim their gun control laws have stopped mass shootings...
- 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
And how did Australian gun control keep this shooting from being a mass shooting?
- 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
And had this kid walked into his school.....as a muslim immigrant and simply shot 3 kids....it would have been an act of muslim terrorism and a mass shooting ....again, luck saved Australia, not their gun control laws...
- 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
- And how did Australian gun laws keep these muslim teenager from going to a school with this gun and shooting a bunch of students?
Sydney police HQ shooting linked to terrorism: police commissioner
The actions of the 15-year-old gunman who shot dead a New South Wales police civilian employee were an act of terrorism, police say.
The radicalised youth of Middle Eastern background has been named as Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad.
He killed the police employee, Curtis Cheng, as he was leaving police headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm yesterday.
The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.
You argue antigun laws better than the left. You show some 13 gun related deaths in an entire country spanning almost 20 years. Cruz killed more than that in minutes just the other day.
It's not a matter of disagreement: it's a matter of changing laws regarding gun ownership so that we can prevent as many of these mass shootings as possible.How about, if you love your country, you want to make it better?
And you think non-stop whinging and calling those who disagree with you 'deplorabe' is making things better?
That's adorable.
France has all the laws you want. How did it work out for the 130 Parisians who were murdered?
LOLAllow people to rent trucks and more people will die.....
There are easy answers to that problem.
City adding 1,500 barriers to prevent vehicle terror attacks
Moron......they simply run over people before they get behind the barriers........troll....
Sure they do.
Australia eliminated mass shootings with gun control, it wasn't replaced by people killing with trucks. It is interesting you want killers to have every option available. Are you one of those Russians? You seem to want lots of death in the USA.
Liar......you know, because you have been shown this list repeatedly, Australian gun control did not stop mass shootings there......
The following list shows individuals in public spaces shooting people.......the only reason they aren't mass public shootings is the shooter either didn't decide to shoot more people, or the people he did shoot didn't die.....
Not one Australian gun control law stopped these shootings from becoming mass public shootings...
Here is a list of shootings in Australia...notice, they are all after they banned and confiscated guns...tell me....how did Australian gun laws stop these from becoming mass shootings?
I will quote a few....read the rest....
Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia
If he had decided to keep shooting...would Australian gun laws have kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
Tell me...this doesn't count as a mass shooting...only because more of the victims didn't die...7 people shot......did Australian gun laws stop it from being a mass shooting?
Another one.....this shooter couldn't clear his rifle...so he only killed 2...the new standard for a mass shooting incident is 3 dead victims...so how did Australian gun laws keep this from being a mass shooting...rather than just dumb luck....?
- 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
And had this guy decided to keep shooting.....would Australian gun laws have stopped him? And kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
Can you see that CNN's article is just wrong....that it implies that Australian gun control has ended their mass shootings...and that that is a lie?
- 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
And more....
- 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
this guy actually went into a mall......with a gun......after they banned and confiscated them...so tell me how this doesn't show that the CNN article is a lie....
- 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
How did Australian gun control laws keep this shooting from being a muslim terrorist mass shooting? An immigrant to Australia got a gun in a country where they banned and confiscated them and now claim their gun control laws have stopped mass shootings...
- 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
And how did Australian gun control keep this shooting from being a mass shooting?
- 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
And had this kid walked into his school.....as a muslim immigrant and simply shot 3 kids....it would have been an act of muslim terrorism and a mass shooting ....again, luck saved Australia, not their gun control laws...
- 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
- And how did Australian gun laws keep these muslim teenager from going to a school with this gun and shooting a bunch of students?
Sydney police HQ shooting linked to terrorism: police commissioner
The actions of the 15-year-old gunman who shot dead a New South Wales police civilian employee were an act of terrorism, police say.
The radicalised youth of Middle Eastern background has been named as Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad.
He killed the police employee, Curtis Cheng, as he was leaving police headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm yesterday.
The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.
You argue antigun laws better than the left. You show some 13 gun related deaths in an entire country spanning almost 20 years. Cruz killed more than that in minutes just the other day.
I don't know where you get your figures but according to the Aussies, they had 32 killed by firearm in 2016 alone.
"Across Australia, the number of victims of Murder decreased by 4% between 2015 and 2016, from 236 to 227 victims. Almost two-thirds (65%) of all Murder victims recorded in 2016 were male (147 victims) and 41% of male Murder victims were aged between 35 and 54 years (60 victims). There were 80 female victims of Murder recorded in 2016, 31% of these were aged between 20 and 34 years (25 victims). (Tables 1 & 2)
In 2016, Murder was most likely to have been committed at a residential location (67% or 153 victims). (Table 3)
A weapon was used in 69% of Murders (157 victims). A knife was twice as likely to have been recorded as the murder weapon (71 victims), when compared to a firearm (32 victims). (Table 4)"
4510.0 - Recorded Crime - Victims, Australia, 2016
Faun
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I used the numbers he posted.LOLThere are easy answers to that problem.
City adding 1,500 barriers to prevent vehicle terror attacks
Moron......they simply run over people before they get behind the barriers........troll....
Sure they do.
Australia eliminated mass shootings with gun control, it wasn't replaced by people killing with trucks. It is interesting you want killers to have every option available. Are you one of those Russians? You seem to want lots of death in the USA.
Liar......you know, because you have been shown this list repeatedly, Australian gun control did not stop mass shootings there......
The following list shows individuals in public spaces shooting people.......the only reason they aren't mass public shootings is the shooter either didn't decide to shoot more people, or the people he did shoot didn't die.....
Not one Australian gun control law stopped these shootings from becoming mass public shootings...
Here is a list of shootings in Australia...notice, they are all after they banned and confiscated guns...tell me....how did Australian gun laws stop these from becoming mass shootings?
I will quote a few....read the rest....
Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia
If he had decided to keep shooting...would Australian gun laws have kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
Tell me...this doesn't count as a mass shooting...only because more of the victims didn't die...7 people shot......did Australian gun laws stop it from being a mass shooting?
Another one.....this shooter couldn't clear his rifle...so he only killed 2...the new standard for a mass shooting incident is 3 dead victims...so how did Australian gun laws keep this from being a mass shooting...rather than just dumb luck....?
- 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
And had this guy decided to keep shooting.....would Australian gun laws have stopped him? And kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
Can you see that CNN's article is just wrong....that it implies that Australian gun control has ended their mass shootings...and that that is a lie?
- 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
And more....
- 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
this guy actually went into a mall......with a gun......after they banned and confiscated them...so tell me how this doesn't show that the CNN article is a lie....
- 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
How did Australian gun control laws keep this shooting from being a muslim terrorist mass shooting? An immigrant to Australia got a gun in a country where they banned and confiscated them and now claim their gun control laws have stopped mass shootings...
- 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
And how did Australian gun control keep this shooting from being a mass shooting?
- 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
And had this kid walked into his school.....as a muslim immigrant and simply shot 3 kids....it would have been an act of muslim terrorism and a mass shooting ....again, luck saved Australia, not their gun control laws...
- 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
- And how did Australian gun laws keep these muslim teenager from going to a school with this gun and shooting a bunch of students?
Sydney police HQ shooting linked to terrorism: police commissioner
The actions of the 15-year-old gunman who shot dead a New South Wales police civilian employee were an act of terrorism, police say.
The radicalised youth of Middle Eastern background has been named as Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad.
He killed the police employee, Curtis Cheng, as he was leaving police headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm yesterday.
The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.
You argue antigun laws better than the left. You show some 13 gun related deaths in an entire country spanning almost 20 years. Cruz killed more than that in minutes just the other day.
I don't know where you get your figures but according to the Aussies, they had 32 killed by firearm in 2016 alone.
"Across Australia, the number of victims of Murder decreased by 4% between 2015 and 2016, from 236 to 227 victims. Almost two-thirds (65%) of all Murder victims recorded in 2016 were male (147 victims) and 41% of male Murder victims were aged between 35 and 54 years (60 victims). There were 80 female victims of Murder recorded in 2016, 31% of these were aged between 20 and 34 years (25 victims). (Tables 1 & 2)
In 2016, Murder was most likely to have been committed at a residential location (67% or 153 victims). (Table 3)
A weapon was used in 69% of Murders (157 victims). A knife was twice as likely to have been recorded as the murder weapon (71 victims), when compared to a firearm (32 victims). (Table 4)"
4510.0 - Recorded Crime - Victims, Australia, 2016
Brain357
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NRA actively worked to weaken gun law enforcementNRA actively worked to weaken gun law enforcementThey don't have guns everywhere. Relative to us gun ownership is very low. We have gone way too far. Hence why school, church, police shootings, road rage shootings... These are all a US problem.
Nope.....we don't have a gun problem, we have a criminal problem....you idiots keep letting violent gun offenders back on the street, and your 'god' government, keeps screwing up with known dangerous people......over and over again....
you are such a liar....
Moron.......the article was pushing universal background checks.......dumb ass. Criminals do not go through background checks, they use straw buyers who can pass current federally mandated background checks...which means they will pass background checks on private sales.....mass shooters pass current federal background checks, which means they too will pass background checks on private sales....
making universal background checks pointless....
You want them because it will give you the power to call for gun registration...which is why the NRA opposes them...
They have helped keep our criminals well armed.
No...democrats do that....the NRA supports police and fights to keep criminals locked up...
Democrats in action...vs...the NRA and republicans..
California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register
Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”
I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.
Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.
The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.
Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.
Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.
and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....
Why is that?
Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.
supplying a firearm to a gang member,
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felon obtaining a firearm,
discharging a firearm on school grounds
Brain357
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There are easy answers to that problem.
City adding 1,500 barriers to prevent vehicle terror attacks
Moron......they simply run over people before they get behind the barriers........troll....
Sure they do.
Australia eliminated mass shootings with gun control, it wasn't replaced by people killing with trucks. It is interesting you want killers to have every option available. Are you one of those Russians? You seem to want lots of death in the USA.
Liar......you know, because you have been shown this list repeatedly, Australian gun control did not stop mass shootings there......
The following list shows individuals in public spaces shooting people.......the only reason they aren't mass public shootings is the shooter either didn't decide to shoot more people, or the people he did shoot didn't die.....
Not one Australian gun control law stopped these shootings from becoming mass public shootings...
Here is a list of shootings in Australia...notice, they are all after they banned and confiscated guns...tell me....how did Australian gun laws stop these from becoming mass shootings?
I will quote a few....read the rest....
Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia
If he had decided to keep shooting...would Australian gun laws have kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
Tell me...this doesn't count as a mass shooting...only because more of the victims didn't die...7 people shot......did Australian gun laws stop it from being a mass shooting?
Another one.....this shooter couldn't clear his rifle...so he only killed 2...the new standard for a mass shooting incident is 3 dead victims...so how did Australian gun laws keep this from being a mass shooting...rather than just dumb luck....?
- 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
And had this guy decided to keep shooting.....would Australian gun laws have stopped him? And kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
Can you see that CNN's article is just wrong....that it implies that Australian gun control has ended their mass shootings...and that that is a lie?
- 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
And more....
- 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
this guy actually went into a mall......with a gun......after they banned and confiscated them...so tell me how this doesn't show that the CNN article is a lie....
- 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
How did Australian gun control laws keep this shooting from being a muslim terrorist mass shooting? An immigrant to Australia got a gun in a country where they banned and confiscated them and now claim their gun control laws have stopped mass shootings...
- 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
And how did Australian gun control keep this shooting from being a mass shooting?
- 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
And had this kid walked into his school.....as a muslim immigrant and simply shot 3 kids....it would have been an act of muslim terrorism and a mass shooting ....again, luck saved Australia, not their gun control laws...
- 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
- And how did Australian gun laws keep these muslim teenager from going to a school with this gun and shooting a bunch of students?
Sydney police HQ shooting linked to terrorism: police commissioner
The actions of the 15-year-old gunman who shot dead a New South Wales police civilian employee were an act of terrorism, police say.
The radicalised youth of Middle Eastern background has been named as Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad.
He killed the police employee, Curtis Cheng, as he was leaving police headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm yesterday.
The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.
So not mass shootings.
Answer the question.....how did Australia's gun laws stop all of those shootings from becoming mass public shootings?
Imagine if all our shootings suddenly became mass shootings. They were not mass shootings. It seems their laws are making it harder for those who want to be mass killers.
Brain357
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It's not a matter of disagreement: it's a matter of changing laws regarding gun ownership so that we can prevent as many of these mass shootings as possible.How about, if you love your country, you want to make it better?
And you think non-stop whinging and calling those who disagree with you 'deplorabe' is making things better?
That's adorable.
France has all the laws you want. How did it work out for the 130 Parisians who were murdered?
By a whole group of international terrorists. How did 9/11 workout for us?
I just realized something, yes, I'm a little slow on the uptake, but, what I realized is, this argument is pointless. The left will never convince the right that ar type weapons should be banned, and the right will never convince the left that banning guns will not solve the problem.
So, what is it exactly, that everyone is doing here?
So, what is it exactly, that everyone is doing here?
Unkotare
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.... Teachers do not want to carry guns, except a very few nutcases.........
That is, of course, an overly categorical statement.
It's not a matter of disagreement: it's a matter of changing laws regarding gun ownership so that we can prevent as many of these mass shootings as possible.How about, if you love your country, you want to make it better?
And you think non-stop whinging and calling those who disagree with you 'deplorabe' is making things better?
That's adorable.
France has all the laws you want. How did it work out for the 130 Parisians who were murdered?
By a whole group of international terrorists. How did 9/11 workout for us?
A whole group that smuggled machine guns in across and ocean and a continent, every country of which those guns were illegal. How are them gun laws working for ya.....
I used the numbers he posted.LOLMoron......they simply run over people before they get behind the barriers........troll....
Sure they do.
Australia eliminated mass shootings with gun control, it wasn't replaced by people killing with trucks. It is interesting you want killers to have every option available. Are you one of those Russians? You seem to want lots of death in the USA.
Liar......you know, because you have been shown this list repeatedly, Australian gun control did not stop mass shootings there......
The following list shows individuals in public spaces shooting people.......the only reason they aren't mass public shootings is the shooter either didn't decide to shoot more people, or the people he did shoot didn't die.....
Not one Australian gun control law stopped these shootings from becoming mass public shootings...
Here is a list of shootings in Australia...notice, they are all after they banned and confiscated guns...tell me....how did Australian gun laws stop these from becoming mass shootings?
I will quote a few....read the rest....
Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia
If he had decided to keep shooting...would Australian gun laws have kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
Tell me...this doesn't count as a mass shooting...only because more of the victims didn't die...7 people shot......did Australian gun laws stop it from being a mass shooting?
Another one.....this shooter couldn't clear his rifle...so he only killed 2...the new standard for a mass shooting incident is 3 dead victims...so how did Australian gun laws keep this from being a mass shooting...rather than just dumb luck....?
- 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
And had this guy decided to keep shooting.....would Australian gun laws have stopped him? And kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
Can you see that CNN's article is just wrong....that it implies that Australian gun control has ended their mass shootings...and that that is a lie?
- 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
And more....
- 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
this guy actually went into a mall......with a gun......after they banned and confiscated them...so tell me how this doesn't show that the CNN article is a lie....
- 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
How did Australian gun control laws keep this shooting from being a muslim terrorist mass shooting? An immigrant to Australia got a gun in a country where they banned and confiscated them and now claim their gun control laws have stopped mass shootings...
- 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
And how did Australian gun control keep this shooting from being a mass shooting?
- 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
And had this kid walked into his school.....as a muslim immigrant and simply shot 3 kids....it would have been an act of muslim terrorism and a mass shooting ....again, luck saved Australia, not their gun control laws...
- 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
- And how did Australian gun laws keep these muslim teenager from going to a school with this gun and shooting a bunch of students?
Sydney police HQ shooting linked to terrorism: police commissioner
The actions of the 15-year-old gunman who shot dead a New South Wales police civilian employee were an act of terrorism, police say.
The radicalised youth of Middle Eastern background has been named as Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad.
He killed the police employee, Curtis Cheng, as he was leaving police headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm yesterday.
The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.
You argue antigun laws better than the left. You show some 13 gun related deaths in an entire country spanning almost 20 years. Cruz killed more than that in minutes just the other day.
I don't know where you get your figures but according to the Aussies, they had 32 killed by firearm in 2016 alone.
"Across Australia, the number of victims of Murder decreased by 4% between 2015 and 2016, from 236 to 227 victims. Almost two-thirds (65%) of all Murder victims recorded in 2016 were male (147 victims) and 41% of male Murder victims were aged between 35 and 54 years (60 victims). There were 80 female victims of Murder recorded in 2016, 31% of these were aged between 20 and 34 years (25 victims). (Tables 1 & 2)
In 2016, Murder was most likely to have been committed at a residential location (67% or 153 victims). (Table 3)
A weapon was used in 69% of Murders (157 victims). A knife was twice as likely to have been recorded as the murder weapon (71 victims), when compared to a firearm (32 victims). (Table 4)"
4510.0 - Recorded Crime - Victims, Australia, 2016
So? I posted the actual numbers.
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It's not a matter of disagreement: it's a matter of changing laws regarding gun ownership so that we can prevent as many of these mass shootings as possible.How about, if you love your country, you want to make it better?
And you think non-stop whinging and calling those who disagree with you 'deplorabe' is making things better?
That's adorable.
France has all the laws you want. How did it work out for the 130 Parisians who were murdered?
By a whole group of international terrorists. How did 9/11 workout for us?
A whole group that smuggled machine guns in across and ocean and a continent, every country of which those guns were illegal. How are them gun laws working for ya.....
Yes terrorists are very dangerous, see 9/11. Here it just takes an angry child.
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How did 9/11 workout for us?
If you were Israeli and you got your Rabbi's email warning you to stay away from the WTC, you smiled like Netanyahu did...
Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel
If you noticed that it was a cruise missile hitting the Pentagon, you faced tough odds surviving, as the NSA and CIA/Mossad have tried to off you for 17 years....
It's not a matter of disagreement: it's a matter of changing laws regarding gun ownership so that we can prevent as many of these mass shootings as possible.And you think non-stop whinging and calling those who disagree with you 'deplorabe' is making things better?
That's adorable.
France has all the laws you want. How did it work out for the 130 Parisians who were murdered?
By a whole group of international terrorists. How did 9/11 workout for us?
A whole group that smuggled machine guns in across and ocean and a continent, every country of which those guns were illegal. How are them gun laws working for ya.....
Yes terrorists are very dangerous, see 9/11. Here it just takes an angry child.
Gun laws are supposed to make things like this impossible You have already disarmed the schools so that's where the assholes go for their sprees'. Just imagine how much easier it will be for them when no one can have those guns....like happened in Paris where even the cops were screwed.
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So? You asked where I got my numbers from and I told you.I used the numbers he posted.LOLSure they do.
Australia eliminated mass shootings with gun control, it wasn't replaced by people killing with trucks. It is interesting you want killers to have every option available. Are you one of those Russians? You seem to want lots of death in the USA.
Liar......you know, because you have been shown this list repeatedly, Australian gun control did not stop mass shootings there......
The following list shows individuals in public spaces shooting people.......the only reason they aren't mass public shootings is the shooter either didn't decide to shoot more people, or the people he did shoot didn't die.....
Not one Australian gun control law stopped these shootings from becoming mass public shootings...
Here is a list of shootings in Australia...notice, they are all after they banned and confiscated guns...tell me....how did Australian gun laws stop these from becoming mass shootings?
I will quote a few....read the rest....
Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia
If he had decided to keep shooting...would Australian gun laws have kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
Tell me...this doesn't count as a mass shooting...only because more of the victims didn't die...7 people shot......did Australian gun laws stop it from being a mass shooting?
Another one.....this shooter couldn't clear his rifle...so he only killed 2...the new standard for a mass shooting incident is 3 dead victims...so how did Australian gun laws keep this from being a mass shooting...rather than just dumb luck....?
- 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
And had this guy decided to keep shooting.....would Australian gun laws have stopped him? And kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
Can you see that CNN's article is just wrong....that it implies that Australian gun control has ended their mass shootings...and that that is a lie?
- 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
And more....
- 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
this guy actually went into a mall......with a gun......after they banned and confiscated them...so tell me how this doesn't show that the CNN article is a lie....
- 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
How did Australian gun control laws keep this shooting from being a muslim terrorist mass shooting? An immigrant to Australia got a gun in a country where they banned and confiscated them and now claim their gun control laws have stopped mass shootings...
- 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
And how did Australian gun control keep this shooting from being a mass shooting?
- 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
And had this kid walked into his school.....as a muslim immigrant and simply shot 3 kids....it would have been an act of muslim terrorism and a mass shooting ....again, luck saved Australia, not their gun control laws...
- 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
- And how did Australian gun laws keep these muslim teenager from going to a school with this gun and shooting a bunch of students?
Sydney police HQ shooting linked to terrorism: police commissioner
The actions of the 15-year-old gunman who shot dead a New South Wales police civilian employee were an act of terrorism, police say.
The radicalised youth of Middle Eastern background has been named as Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad.
He killed the police employee, Curtis Cheng, as he was leaving police headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm yesterday.
The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.
You argue antigun laws better than the left. You show some 13 gun related deaths in an entire country spanning almost 20 years. Cruz killed more than that in minutes just the other day.
I don't know where you get your figures but according to the Aussies, they had 32 killed by firearm in 2016 alone.
"Across Australia, the number of victims of Murder decreased by 4% between 2015 and 2016, from 236 to 227 victims. Almost two-thirds (65%) of all Murder victims recorded in 2016 were male (147 victims) and 41% of male Murder victims were aged between 35 and 54 years (60 victims). There were 80 female victims of Murder recorded in 2016, 31% of these were aged between 20 and 34 years (25 victims). (Tables 1 & 2)
In 2016, Murder was most likely to have been committed at a residential location (67% or 153 victims). (Table 3)
A weapon was used in 69% of Murders (157 victims). A knife was twice as likely to have been recorded as the murder weapon (71 victims), when compared to a firearm (32 victims). (Table 4)"
4510.0 - Recorded Crime - Victims, Australia, 2016
So? I posted the actual numbers.
So? You asked where I got my numbers from and I told you.I used the numbers he posted.LOLLiar......you know, because you have been shown this list repeatedly, Australian gun control did not stop mass shootings there......
The following list shows individuals in public spaces shooting people.......the only reason they aren't mass public shootings is the shooter either didn't decide to shoot more people, or the people he did shoot didn't die.....
Not one Australian gun control law stopped these shootings from becoming mass public shootings...
Here is a list of shootings in Australia...notice, they are all after they banned and confiscated guns...tell me....how did Australian gun laws stop these from becoming mass shootings?
I will quote a few....read the rest....
Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia
If he had decided to keep shooting...would Australian gun laws have kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
Tell me...this doesn't count as a mass shooting...only because more of the victims didn't die...7 people shot......did Australian gun laws stop it from being a mass shooting?
Another one.....this shooter couldn't clear his rifle...so he only killed 2...the new standard for a mass shooting incident is 3 dead victims...so how did Australian gun laws keep this from being a mass shooting...rather than just dumb luck....?
- 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
And had this guy decided to keep shooting.....would Australian gun laws have stopped him? And kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
Can you see that CNN's article is just wrong....that it implies that Australian gun control has ended their mass shootings...and that that is a lie?
- 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
And more....
- 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
this guy actually went into a mall......with a gun......after they banned and confiscated them...so tell me how this doesn't show that the CNN article is a lie....
- 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
How did Australian gun control laws keep this shooting from being a muslim terrorist mass shooting? An immigrant to Australia got a gun in a country where they banned and confiscated them and now claim their gun control laws have stopped mass shootings...
- 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
And how did Australian gun control keep this shooting from being a mass shooting?
- 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
And had this kid walked into his school.....as a muslim immigrant and simply shot 3 kids....it would have been an act of muslim terrorism and a mass shooting ....again, luck saved Australia, not their gun control laws...
- 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
- And how did Australian gun laws keep these muslim teenager from going to a school with this gun and shooting a bunch of students?
Sydney police HQ shooting linked to terrorism: police commissioner
The actions of the 15-year-old gunman who shot dead a New South Wales police civilian employee were an act of terrorism, police say.
The radicalised youth of Middle Eastern background has been named as Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad.
He killed the police employee, Curtis Cheng, as he was leaving police headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm yesterday.
The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.
You argue antigun laws better than the left. You show some 13 gun related deaths in an entire country spanning almost 20 years. Cruz killed more than that in minutes just the other day.
I don't know where you get your figures but according to the Aussies, they had 32 killed by firearm in 2016 alone.
"Across Australia, the number of victims of Murder decreased by 4% between 2015 and 2016, from 236 to 227 victims. Almost two-thirds (65%) of all Murder victims recorded in 2016 were male (147 victims) and 41% of male Murder victims were aged between 35 and 54 years (60 victims). There were 80 female victims of Murder recorded in 2016, 31% of these were aged between 20 and 34 years (25 victims). (Tables 1 & 2)
In 2016, Murder was most likely to have been committed at a residential location (67% or 153 victims). (Table 3)
A weapon was used in 69% of Murders (157 victims). A knife was twice as likely to have been recorded as the murder weapon (71 victims), when compared to a firearm (32 victims). (Table 4)"
4510.0 - Recorded Crime - Victims, Australia, 2016
So? I posted the actual numbers.
Yes, and you ignored the fact that he presented you a smattering of the crimes. He didn't give a comprehensive table, and you decided to ignore that fact and propagandize what he stated. That makes you the propagandist, and not him.
Brain357
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It's not a matter of disagreement: it's a matter of changing laws regarding gun ownership so that we can prevent as many of these mass shootings as possible.
France has all the laws you want. How did it work out for the 130 Parisians who were murdered?
By a whole group of international terrorists. How did 9/11 workout for us?
A whole group that smuggled machine guns in across and ocean and a continent, every country of which those guns were illegal. How are them gun laws working for ya.....
Yes terrorists are very dangerous, see 9/11. Here it just takes an angry child.
Gun laws are supposed to make things like this impossible You have already disarmed the schools so that's where the assholes go for their sprees'. Just imagine how much easier it will be for them when no one can have those guns....like happened in Paris where even the cops were screwed.
Gun laws make it rare, not impossible. This is why we have mass shootings regularly, and they are very rare in the UK.
2aguy
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Moron......they simply run over people before they get behind the barriers........troll....
Sure they do.
Australia eliminated mass shootings with gun control, it wasn't replaced by people killing with trucks. It is interesting you want killers to have every option available. Are you one of those Russians? You seem to want lots of death in the USA.
Liar......you know, because you have been shown this list repeatedly, Australian gun control did not stop mass shootings there......
The following list shows individuals in public spaces shooting people.......the only reason they aren't mass public shootings is the shooter either didn't decide to shoot more people, or the people he did shoot didn't die.....
Not one Australian gun control law stopped these shootings from becoming mass public shootings...
Here is a list of shootings in Australia...notice, they are all after they banned and confiscated guns...tell me....how did Australian gun laws stop these from becoming mass shootings?
I will quote a few....read the rest....
Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia
If he had decided to keep shooting...would Australian gun laws have kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
Tell me...this doesn't count as a mass shooting...only because more of the victims didn't die...7 people shot......did Australian gun laws stop it from being a mass shooting?
Another one.....this shooter couldn't clear his rifle...so he only killed 2...the new standard for a mass shooting incident is 3 dead victims...so how did Australian gun laws keep this from being a mass shooting...rather than just dumb luck....?
- 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
And had this guy decided to keep shooting.....would Australian gun laws have stopped him? And kept this from being a mass shooting?
- 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
Can you see that CNN's article is just wrong....that it implies that Australian gun control has ended their mass shootings...and that that is a lie?
- 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
And more....
- 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
this guy actually went into a mall......with a gun......after they banned and confiscated them...so tell me how this doesn't show that the CNN article is a lie....
- 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
How did Australian gun control laws keep this shooting from being a muslim terrorist mass shooting? An immigrant to Australia got a gun in a country where they banned and confiscated them and now claim their gun control laws have stopped mass shootings...
- 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
And how did Australian gun control keep this shooting from being a mass shooting?
- 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
And had this kid walked into his school.....as a muslim immigrant and simply shot 3 kids....it would have been an act of muslim terrorism and a mass shooting ....again, luck saved Australia, not their gun control laws...
- 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
- And how did Australian gun laws keep these muslim teenager from going to a school with this gun and shooting a bunch of students?
Sydney police HQ shooting linked to terrorism: police commissioner
The actions of the 15-year-old gunman who shot dead a New South Wales police civilian employee were an act of terrorism, police say.
The radicalised youth of Middle Eastern background has been named as Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad.
He killed the police employee, Curtis Cheng, as he was leaving police headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm yesterday.
The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.
So not mass shootings.
Answer the question.....how did Australia's gun laws stop all of those shootings from becoming mass public shootings?
Imagine if all our shootings suddenly became mass shootings. They were not mass shootings. It seems their laws are making it harder for those who want to be mass killers.
You have the exact list of public shootings that Australian gun laws did not stop.......that weren't mass shootings only because the shooter didn't shoot or kill more people....and then you post that....
troll.
2aguy
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France has all the laws you want. How did it work out for the 130 Parisians who were murdered?
By a whole group of international terrorists. How did 9/11 workout for us?
A whole group that smuggled machine guns in across and ocean and a continent, every country of which those guns were illegal. How are them gun laws working for ya.....
Yes terrorists are very dangerous, see 9/11. Here it just takes an angry child.
Gun laws are supposed to make things like this impossible You have already disarmed the schools so that's where the assholes go for their sprees'. Just imagine how much easier it will be for them when no one can have those guns....like happened in Paris where even the cops were screwed.
Gun laws make it rare, not impossible. This is why we have mass shootings regularly, and they are very rare in the UK.
Wrong, they didn't have mass shootings often before they banned guns....one a decade...and they have kept that rate up post banning and confiscation......they are due for one any time now...they missed 2 by pure dumb luck, and the guy who walked into the day care center wasn't looking to murder kids...but he had a gun, in a day care center....in Britain where they banned guns...
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