If you think arming teachers is a solution to school shootings then you are either dumb or insane

[P@triot]

What a stark contrast to a well spoken, intelligent sensible woman to your raving lunatic prez.

You left-wing loons are hilarious. Nothing says "sensible" like Hitlery Clinton

 

[whitehall]

Funny how the first thing that comes into the minds of lefties is "knocking out the teacher".

 

[2aguy]

They do care if they die before they can take anyone with them. That's why they choose places with lots of people where they know no one has a gun.

These guys were pretty well armed.
2016 shooting of Dallas police officers - Wikipedia

And they stopped the shooter......doofus........imagine if the shooter had gone to a gun free zone.......he could have murdered a lot more people...

Or imagine if he had used a rental truck...he could have murdered a lot more people than he did with that rifle.....

Yes he was stopped after many died. Meanwhile countries with strong gun control had no shooting and nobody died.

Britain had two stopped last year, France had 135 murdered with fully automatic military rifles that are banned in Europe, Norway had 80 some children murdered....

You don't know what you are talkiing about....

Britain had two stopped. We had many as well as many stopped. Seems Britain is doing a whole lot better.
France, yes a whole group of international terrorists. We lost thousands in 9-11. Terrorists kill people. But we also have kids killing in our schools. One shooter in Vegas killed 58, just a lone acting gunman.
Norway, that was years ago. How many before and after that? We have new worst mass shootings regularly.

You are lying....Britain had only one school shooting when they still allowed people to own guns. After they banned and confiscated guns they had 2 school shootings that were stopped by dumb luck...their gun control laws didn't stop the shooters......the 19 year old who was going to shoot up the university that kicked him out posted on social media, and their police arrested him...he had a gun and explosives......the other kid, in elementary school, had a shot gun, changed his mind and called the police on himself.......

And since gun crime is up in Britain....23% last year with increases every year before that...that means the criminals have guns...they have guns so if they want to shoot up schools or theaters, they can shoot up schools and theaters...they haven't chosen to do that, their gun control laws haven't stopped them...their own decision stops them.....

The shooter in Vegas.....used 2 rifles firing over 1,000 rounds into a tightly packed crowd of 22,000 peop;le.....

The muslim terrorist in Nice, France used a rental truck and in 5 minutes murdered 86 people.....

Rental trucks are deadlier than rifles....

 

[P@triot]

You are the type who shouldn't be allowed a gun: you have a personality disorder: i.e., mental illness.

And you are the type of left-wing fascist who shouldn't be allowed to vote - since all you want to do is control everything and everyone. You are an embarrassment to mankind.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Great, now 15 year old Jimmy the psychopath and others like them who are too young to buy guns can get one for free by knocking out their teacher from behind.

This idea is so dumb that it blows my mind grown adults came up with it.

How many police station shooters have there been?

 

[2aguy]

They do care if they die before they can take anyone with them. That's why they choose places with lots of people where they know no one has a gun.

These guys were pretty well armed.
2016 shooting of Dallas police officers - Wikipedia

And they stopped the shooter......doofus........imagine if the shooter had gone to a gun free zone.......he could have murdered a lot more people...

Or imagine if he had used a rental truck...he could have murdered a lot more people than he did with that rifle.....

Yes he was stopped after many died. Meanwhile countries with strong gun control had no shooting and nobody died.

Britain had two stopped last year, France had 135 murdered with fully automatic military rifles that are banned in Europe, Norway had 80 some children murdered....

You don't know what you are talkiing about....

Britain had two stopped. We had many as well as many stopped. Seems Britain is doing a whole lot better.
France, yes a whole group of international terrorists. We lost thousands in 9-11. Terrorists kill people. But we also have kids killing in our schools. One shooter in Vegas killed 58, just a lone acting gunman.
Norway, that was years ago. How many before and after that? We have new worst mass shootings regularly.

They have guns in Norway......their people, their young people haven't decided to shoot up schools....that is a cultural issue, not a gun issue....

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We need gun control. Even law enforcement falls victim to mass shootings.
2016 shooting of Dallas police officers - Wikipedia
On July 7, 2016, Micah Xavier Johnson ambushed and fired upon a group of police officers in Dallas, Texas, killing five officers and injuring nine others.

Right you are, it's because of gun control.

We lose cops to shootings regularly. Most are just domestic calls. We had lot of dead cops long before anyone heard of black lives matters.

But after Ferguson, it increased a bit. This is especially true of execution style police murders.

No actually it didn't. We've had worse years before BLM ever existed. But we always have them, usually about 1 a week average. Countries with strong gun control only lose single digits a year...

That may be true, but you are talking many years earlier.

The peak of anti-police rhetoric and BLM is when the deaths increased. That was the year 2016. After Trump took over, we seen a huge decline in police officer deaths.

Number Of Police Officers Killed By Firearms Rose In 2016, Study Finds

 

[2aguy]

Sadly for you, that shooting shows that the myth of the armed citizen is a myth....there were citizens with AR-15s on their shoulders, and they also had pistols....when the Black Lives Matter shooter started murdering police, the armed citizens got out of the way and let the police do their jobs.....they did not engage the shooter, they did not get shot by the police....

Nothing you say about the gun issue is even remotely true or accurate.....

Sadly for you, that proves that even when surrounded by good guys with guns, the bad guy kills many.

Yes.......when you attack from surprise you can commit murder...boy, you sure are smart. What it really shows is that good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns....

And he murdered 6 police officers....with one rifle....

The muslim terrorist in France, with a rental truck, murdered 86 people in 5 minutes.....

Which tool was deadlier?

The

Yes so clearly it is best to have gun control. Arm killers with really dangerous guns and many are going to die.

Allow people to rent trucks and more people will die.....

There are easy answers to that problem.
City adding 1,500 barriers to prevent vehicle terror attacks

Moron......they simply run over people before they get behind the barriers........troll....

 

[2aguy]

The empirical evidence shows that concealed carry holders have saved a lot of lives.

please see post #639
again--these shooters usually don't care if they die--they are not thieves/etc
big, big difference
they are out to KILL--not steal

They do care if they die before they can take anyone with them. That's why they choose places with lots of people where they know no one has a gun.

These guys were pretty well armed.
2016 shooting of Dallas police officers - Wikipedia

And they stopped the shooter......doofus........imagine if the shooter had gone to a gun free zone.......he could have murdered a lot more people...

Or imagine if he had used a rental truck...he could have murdered a lot more people than he did with that rifle.....

Yes he was stopped after many died. Meanwhile countries with strong gun control had no shooting and nobody died.

Explain how British gun control stopped this man with a gun from murdering all of these children? He had a gun, he walked into the day care center.....and simply didn't shoot anyone, he was looking for someone else to shoot....

But not one single British gun control law kept these children safe on that day.....dumb ass....

'Gunman' walks into Liverpool nursery school as children were playing inside

Police have sealed off a children's nursery in Liverpool amid reports a gunman walked into the building while youngsters were inside.

Officers were called to Childs Play Nursery in Wavertree, Merseyside, at around 8am this morning.

The man, who is believed to have been carrying what looked like a firearm, walked into the nursery and approached another man.

He then left with a second man on the back of a motorbike.

 

[Brain357]

These guys were pretty well armed.
2016 shooting of Dallas police officers - Wikipedia

And they stopped the shooter......doofus........imagine if the shooter had gone to a gun free zone.......he could have murdered a lot more people...

Or imagine if he had used a rental truck...he could have murdered a lot more people than he did with that rifle.....

Yes he was stopped after many died. Meanwhile countries with strong gun control had no shooting and nobody died.

Britain had two stopped last year, France had 135 murdered with fully automatic military rifles that are banned in Europe, Norway had 80 some children murdered....

You don't know what you are talkiing about....

Britain had two stopped. We had many as well as many stopped. Seems Britain is doing a whole lot better.
France, yes a whole group of international terrorists. We lost thousands in 9-11. Terrorists kill people. But we also have kids killing in our schools. One shooter in Vegas killed 58, just a lone acting gunman.
Norway, that was years ago. How many before and after that? We have new worst mass shootings regularly.

They have guns in Norway......their people, their young people haven't decided to shoot up schools....that is a cultural issue, not a gun issue....

They don't have guns everywhere. Relative to us gun ownership is very low. We have gone way too far. Hence why school, church, police shootings, road rage shootings... These are all a US problem.

 

[2aguy]

And they stopped the shooter......doofus........imagine if the shooter had gone to a gun free zone.......he could have murdered a lot more people...

Or imagine if he had used a rental truck...he could have murdered a lot more people than he did with that rifle.....

Yes he was stopped after many died. Meanwhile countries with strong gun control had no shooting and nobody died.

Britain had two stopped last year, France had 135 murdered with fully automatic military rifles that are banned in Europe, Norway had 80 some children murdered....

You don't know what you are talkiing about....

Britain had two stopped. We had many as well as many stopped. Seems Britain is doing a whole lot better.
France, yes a whole group of international terrorists. We lost thousands in 9-11. Terrorists kill people. But we also have kids killing in our schools. One shooter in Vegas killed 58, just a lone acting gunman.
Norway, that was years ago. How many before and after that? We have new worst mass shootings regularly.

They have guns in Norway......their people, their young people haven't decided to shoot up schools....that is a cultural issue, not a gun issue....

They don't have guns everywhere. Relative to us gun ownership is very low. We have gone way too far. Hence why school, church, police shootings, road rage shootings... These are all a US problem.

Nope.....we don't have a gun problem, we have a criminal problem....you idiots keep letting violent gun offenders back on the street, and your 'god' government, keeps screwing up with known dangerous people......over and over again....

 

[Brain357]

We need gun control. Even law enforcement falls victim to mass shootings.
2016 shooting of Dallas police officers - Wikipedia
On July 7, 2016, Micah Xavier Johnson ambushed and fired upon a group of police officers in Dallas, Texas, killing five officers and injuring nine others.

Right you are, it's because of gun control.

We lose cops to shootings regularly. Most are just domestic calls. We had lot of dead cops long before anyone heard of black lives matters.

But after Ferguson, it increased a bit. This is especially true of execution style police murders.

No actually it didn't. We've had worse years before BLM ever existed. But we always have them, usually about 1 a week average. Countries with strong gun control only lose single digits a year...

That may be true, but you are talking many years earlier.

The peak of anti-police rhetoric and BLM is when the deaths increased. That was the year 2016. After Trump took over, we seen a huge decline in police officer deaths.

Number Of Police Officers Killed By Firearms Rose In 2016, Study Finds

It regularly goes up and down, but is always way more than any country with strong gun control.

 

[Brain357]

Yes he was stopped after many died. Meanwhile countries with strong gun control had no shooting and nobody died.

Britain had two stopped last year, France had 135 murdered with fully automatic military rifles that are banned in Europe, Norway had 80 some children murdered....

You don't know what you are talkiing about....

Britain had two stopped. We had many as well as many stopped. Seems Britain is doing a whole lot better.
France, yes a whole group of international terrorists. We lost thousands in 9-11. Terrorists kill people. But we also have kids killing in our schools. One shooter in Vegas killed 58, just a lone acting gunman.
Norway, that was years ago. How many before and after that? We have new worst mass shootings regularly.

They have guns in Norway......their people, their young people haven't decided to shoot up schools....that is a cultural issue, not a gun issue....

They don't have guns everywhere. Relative to us gun ownership is very low. We have gone way too far. Hence why school, church, police shootings, road rage shootings... These are all a US problem.

Nope.....we don't have a gun problem, we have a criminal problem....you idiots keep letting violent gun offenders back on the street, and your 'god' government, keeps screwing up with known dangerous people......over and over again....

NRA actively worked to weaken gun law enforcement

 

[Brain357]

Sadly for you, that proves that even when surrounded by good guys with guns, the bad guy kills many.

Yes.......when you attack from surprise you can commit murder...boy, you sure are smart. What it really shows is that good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns....

And he murdered 6 police officers....with one rifle....

The muslim terrorist in France, with a rental truck, murdered 86 people in 5 minutes.....

Which tool was deadlier?

The

Yes so clearly it is best to have gun control. Arm killers with really dangerous guns and many are going to die.

Allow people to rent trucks and more people will die.....

There are easy answers to that problem.
City adding 1,500 barriers to prevent vehicle terror attacks

Moron......they simply run over people before they get behind the barriers........troll....

Sure they do.

Australia eliminated mass shootings with gun control, it wasn't replaced by people killing with trucks. It is interesting you want killers to have every option available. Are you one of those Russians? You seem to want lots of death in the USA.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Let’s say there was an armed teacher. So what ! Shooter guy had way more arms . What would they do? Maybe shoot him after he only kills 12 people .

Doesn’t really solve the problem.

I know. Its billy000 and timmy. Who can outdumb the other.

 

[2aguy]

Britain had two stopped last year, France had 135 murdered with fully automatic military rifles that are banned in Europe, Norway had 80 some children murdered....

You don't know what you are talkiing about....

Britain had two stopped. We had many as well as many stopped. Seems Britain is doing a whole lot better.
France, yes a whole group of international terrorists. We lost thousands in 9-11. Terrorists kill people. But we also have kids killing in our schools. One shooter in Vegas killed 58, just a lone acting gunman.
Norway, that was years ago. How many before and after that? We have new worst mass shootings regularly.

They have guns in Norway......their people, their young people haven't decided to shoot up schools....that is a cultural issue, not a gun issue....

They don't have guns everywhere. Relative to us gun ownership is very low. We have gone way too far. Hence why school, church, police shootings, road rage shootings... These are all a US problem.

Nope.....we don't have a gun problem, we have a criminal problem....you idiots keep letting violent gun offenders back on the street, and your 'god' government, keeps screwing up with known dangerous people......over and over again....

NRA actively worked to weaken gun law enforcement

you are such a liar....


Moron.......the article was pushing universal background checks.......dumb ass. Criminals do not go through background checks, they use straw buyers who can pass current federally mandated background checks...which means they will pass background checks on private sales.....mass shooters pass current federal background checks, which means they too will pass background checks on private sales....

making universal background checks pointless....

You want them because it will give you the power to call for gun registration...which is why the NRA opposes them...

 

[2aguy]

Yes.......when you attack from surprise you can commit murder...boy, you sure are smart. What it really shows is that good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns....

And he murdered 6 police officers....with one rifle....

The muslim terrorist in France, with a rental truck, murdered 86 people in 5 minutes.....

Which tool was deadlier?

The

Yes so clearly it is best to have gun control. Arm killers with really dangerous guns and many are going to die.

Allow people to rent trucks and more people will die.....

There are easy answers to that problem.
City adding 1,500 barriers to prevent vehicle terror attacks

Moron......they simply run over people before they get behind the barriers........troll....

Sure they do.

Australia eliminated mass shootings with gun control, it wasn't replaced by people killing with trucks. It is interesting you want killers to have every option available. Are you one of those Russians? You seem to want lots of death in the USA.

Liar......you know, because you have been shown this list repeatedly, Australian gun control did not stop mass shootings there......

The following list shows individuals in public spaces shooting people.......the only reason they aren't mass public shootings is the shooter either didn't decide to shoot more people, or the people he did shoot didn't die.....

Not one Australian gun control law stopped these shootings from becoming mass public shootings...


Here is a list of shootings in Australia...notice, they are all after they banned and confiscated guns...tell me....how did Australian gun laws stop these from becoming mass shootings?

I will quote a few....read the rest....

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia

• 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.

If he had decided to keep shooting...would Australian gun laws have kept this from being a mass shooting?
Tell me...this doesn't count as a mass shooting...only because more of the victims didn't die...7 people shot......did Australian gun laws stop it from being a mass shooting?

• 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.

Another one.....this shooter couldn't clear his rifle...so he only killed 2...the new standard for a mass shooting incident is 3 dead victims...so how did Australian gun laws keep this from being a mass shooting...rather than just dumb luck....?

• 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.

And had this guy decided to keep shooting.....would Australian gun laws have stopped him? And kept this from being a mass shooting?

• 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]

Can you see that CNN's article is just wrong....that it implies that Australian gun control has ended their mass shootings...and that that is a lie?

And more....

• 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.

• 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]

this guy actually went into a mall......with a gun......after they banned and confiscated them...so tell me how this doesn't show that the CNN article is a lie....

• 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]

How did Australian gun control laws keep this shooting from being a muslim terrorist mass shooting? An immigrant to Australia got a gun in a country where they banned and confiscated them and now claim their gun control laws have stopped mass shootings...

• 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]

And how did Australian gun control keep this shooting from being a mass shooting?

• 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.

And had this kid walked into his school.....as a muslim immigrant and simply shot 3 kids....it would have been an act of muslim terrorism and a mass shooting ....again, luck saved Australia, not their gun control laws...

• And how did Australian gun laws keep these muslim teenager from going to a school with this gun and shooting a bunch of students?
  
  Sydney police HQ shooting linked to terrorism: police commissioner
  
  The actions of the 15-year-old gunman who shot dead a New South Wales police civilian employee were an act of terrorism, police say.
  
  The radicalised youth of Middle Eastern background has been named as Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad.
  
  He killed the police employee, Curtis Cheng, as he was leaving police headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm yesterday.
  
  The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.

 

[Brain357]

Britain had two stopped. We had many as well as many stopped. Seems Britain is doing a whole lot better.
France, yes a whole group of international terrorists. We lost thousands in 9-11. Terrorists kill people. But we also have kids killing in our schools. One shooter in Vegas killed 58, just a lone acting gunman.
Norway, that was years ago. How many before and after that? We have new worst mass shootings regularly.

They have guns in Norway......their people, their young people haven't decided to shoot up schools....that is a cultural issue, not a gun issue....

They don't have guns everywhere. Relative to us gun ownership is very low. We have gone way too far. Hence why school, church, police shootings, road rage shootings... These are all a US problem.

Nope.....we don't have a gun problem, we have a criminal problem....you idiots keep letting violent gun offenders back on the street, and your 'god' government, keeps screwing up with known dangerous people......over and over again....

NRA actively worked to weaken gun law enforcement

you are such a liar....


Moron.......the article was pushing universal background checks.......dumb ass. Criminals do not go through background checks, they use straw buyers who can pass current federally mandated background checks...which means they will pass background checks on private sales.....mass shooters pass current federal background checks, which means they too will pass background checks on private sales....

making universal background checks pointless....

You want them because it will give you the power to call for gun registration...which is why the NRA opposes them...

They have helped keep our criminals well armed.

 

[Brain357]

Yes so clearly it is best to have gun control. Arm killers with really dangerous guns and many are going to die.

Allow people to rent trucks and more people will die.....

There are easy answers to that problem.
City adding 1,500 barriers to prevent vehicle terror attacks

Moron......they simply run over people before they get behind the barriers........troll....

Sure they do.

Australia eliminated mass shootings with gun control, it wasn't replaced by people killing with trucks. It is interesting you want killers to have every option available. Are you one of those Russians? You seem to want lots of death in the USA.

Liar......you know, because you have been shown this list repeatedly, Australian gun control did not stop mass shootings there......

The following list shows individuals in public spaces shooting people.......the only reason they aren't mass public shootings is the shooter either didn't decide to shoot more people, or the people he did shoot didn't die.....

Not one Australian gun control law stopped these shootings from becoming mass public shootings...


Here is a list of shootings in Australia...notice, they are all after they banned and confiscated guns...tell me....how did Australian gun laws stop these from becoming mass shootings?

I will quote a few....read the rest....

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia

• 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.

If he had decided to keep shooting...would Australian gun laws have kept this from being a mass shooting?
Tell me...this doesn't count as a mass shooting...only because more of the victims didn't die...7 people shot......did Australian gun laws stop it from being a mass shooting?

• 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.

Another one.....this shooter couldn't clear his rifle...so he only killed 2...the new standard for a mass shooting incident is 3 dead victims...so how did Australian gun laws keep this from being a mass shooting...rather than just dumb luck....?

• 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.

And had this guy decided to keep shooting.....would Australian gun laws have stopped him? And kept this from being a mass shooting?

• 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]

Can you see that CNN's article is just wrong....that it implies that Australian gun control has ended their mass shootings...and that that is a lie?

And more....

• 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.

• 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]

this guy actually went into a mall......with a gun......after they banned and confiscated them...so tell me how this doesn't show that the CNN article is a lie....

• 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]

How did Australian gun control laws keep this shooting from being a muslim terrorist mass shooting? An immigrant to Australia got a gun in a country where they banned and confiscated them and now claim their gun control laws have stopped mass shootings...

• 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]

And how did Australian gun control keep this shooting from being a mass shooting?

• 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.

And had this kid walked into his school.....as a muslim immigrant and simply shot 3 kids....it would have been an act of muslim terrorism and a mass shooting ....again, luck saved Australia, not their gun control laws...

• And how did Australian gun laws keep these muslim teenager from going to a school with this gun and shooting a bunch of students?
  
  Sydney police HQ shooting linked to terrorism: police commissioner
  
  The actions of the 15-year-old gunman who shot dead a New South Wales police civilian employee were an act of terrorism, police say.
  
  The radicalised youth of Middle Eastern background has been named as Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad.
  
  He killed the police employee, Curtis Cheng, as he was leaving police headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm yesterday.
  
  The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.

So not mass shootings.

 

[2aguy]

They have guns in Norway......their people, their young people haven't decided to shoot up schools....that is a cultural issue, not a gun issue....

They don't have guns everywhere. Relative to us gun ownership is very low. We have gone way too far. Hence why school, church, police shootings, road rage shootings... These are all a US problem.

Nope.....we don't have a gun problem, we have a criminal problem....you idiots keep letting violent gun offenders back on the street, and your 'god' government, keeps screwing up with known dangerous people......over and over again....

NRA actively worked to weaken gun law enforcement

you are such a liar....


Moron.......the article was pushing universal background checks.......dumb ass. Criminals do not go through background checks, they use straw buyers who can pass current federally mandated background checks...which means they will pass background checks on private sales.....mass shooters pass current federal background checks, which means they too will pass background checks on private sales....

making universal background checks pointless....

You want them because it will give you the power to call for gun registration...which is why the NRA opposes them...

They have helped keep our criminals well armed.

No...democrats do that....the NRA supports police and fights to keep criminals locked up...

Democrats in action...vs...the NRA and republicans..


California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds