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Youāre making a complete fool of your fooolish self bud. Clearly you donāt know the law.
You might want to read the Posse Comitatus Act once again....I think youāve chosen to steer the act to fit your false narrative. You see, the National Guard isn't like the other military branches....the POTUS can use and deploy the Guard almost at will for almost ANY reason he deems necessary.
THINK ONCE FOOL and stop fucking yourself in public
It's unbelievably idiotic that the military isn't responsible for securing our borders, even for a leftist. They really do see whatever politicians tell them to see
Ignorance truly is bliss for scared, foolish LefTards.
My brother and I joke about how we should become Democrats so we don't have to do so much work thinking
How would that be any different than you are now?
Kaz: Here you go, rimshot
Gator: Here you go, rimshot
wow, I'd say that's a new one, but wow, it isn't. Can you come up with your own material ever or is duh, dar, I'm going to repeat back to me what you said to me really all you have?
It's unbelievably idiotic that the military isn't responsible for securing our borders, even for a leftist. They really do see whatever politicians tell them to see
Ignorance truly is bliss for scared, foolish LefTards.
My brother and I joke about how we should become Democrats so we don't have to do so much work thinking
How would that be any different than you are now?
Kaz: Here you go, rimshot
Gator: Here you go, rimshot
wow, I'd say that's a new one, but wow, it isn't. Can you come up with your own material ever or is duh, dar, I'm going to repeat back to me what you said to me really all you have?
PosĀ·se ComĀ·iĀ·taĀ·tus Act
ĖpƤsÄ ĖkƤmiĖtÄdÉs Ėakt/
noun
LAW
Dumb Ass trump probably has never heard of it.
- a federal statute prohibiting use of the military in civilian law enforcement.
You might want to enlighten yourself a bit more there scholar.
Start with this......The Insurrection Act:
The Insurrection Act represents what is considered an acceptable use of soldiers: authorized by the President himself, as the ultimate tool through which the United States exercises its sovereign authority within its borders. Use of soldiers is a last resort; the President may only approve it under the Insurrection Act when he determines that the civil authorities are unwilling or unable to enforce the laws. The President must make a proclamation ordering those involved to disperse. But once the President has invoked the Insurrection Act, the Posse Comitatus Act does not apply.
The Insurrection Act does not apply. That would turn Trump into a dictator and he should definitely be impeached.
Wrong again...The Insurrection Act DOES apply if your President says it does.
You and wetback lovers donāt get to make that call.
He is not my President. Go ahead and try it and see how that goes over.
The Electoral College proclaimed our Chief Magistrate of the Union.PosĀ·se ComĀ·iĀ·taĀ·tus Act
ĖpƤsÄ ĖkƤmiĖtÄdÉs Ėakt/
noun
LAW
Dumb Ass trump probably has never heard of it.
- a federal statute prohibiting use of the military in civilian law enforcement.
You might want to enlighten yourself a bit more there scholar.
Start with this......The Insurrection Act:
The Insurrection Act represents what is considered an acceptable use of soldiers: authorized by the President himself, as the ultimate tool through which the United States exercises its sovereign authority within its borders. Use of soldiers is a last resort; the President may only approve it under the Insurrection Act when he determines that the civil authorities are unwilling or unable to enforce the laws. The President must make a proclamation ordering those involved to disperse. But once the President has invoked the Insurrection Act, the Posse Comitatus Act does not apply.
The Insurrection Act does not apply. That would turn Trump into a dictator and he should definitely be impeached.
Wrong again...The Insurrection Act DOES apply if your President says it does.
You and wetback lovers donāt get to make that call.
He is not my President. Go ahead and try it and see how that goes over.
POTUS doesn't have to get act of congress to spend Defense money for a Defense project.it would require an act of congress for him to get that money and despite the assertions of our feeble minded brethren, that isn't in the cards.
to get it out of the 2019 budget, he'd have to submit a budget amendment requiring 60 votes in the senate.
i think the repubs are going to get hosed this cycle anyway.
There are state militaries, which can be deployed by the POTUS or governors. Also, the POTUS can invoke the Insurrection Act, to use US federal troops to act inside US borders.The military cannot enforce civilian law. The Posse Comitatus Act prevents that. If e Mexican or Canadian Army crossed our border then the military could act.
In other words, Mexico is not paying for the wall..ever.
Having the military defend the US from invaders is illegal ? You must be the crazy loon.You are a crazy loon. That definitely is illegal.
Refuted by me in Post # 466 of this thread, and by President Eisenhower in 1957.Immigration law is civilian law. The military cannot stop anyone. That excuse is not going to cut it. The military is duty-bound to not follow illegal orders.
FALSE! POTUS is C in C of the DOD, not the congress. Nice try.He cannot use DOD money without Congressional approval. That would require 60 votes in the Senate.
Pentagon and White House officials aren't in charge. Donald Trump is.You need to read your links. One of them has this addendum.
"Pentagon and White House officials told the Post that Trumpās idea is unlikely to come to fruition, as it would require approval from an unsympathetic Congress."
Trump is perfectly OK with the Constitution and laws, to use Army Corps of Engineers of 4 state National Guards, and/or US Army Corps of Engineers. They are under HIS command, not the Congress.That is because he is a conman extraordinaire and at buying people off. In other words being part of the swamp.
The military is not going to pay for it without Congressional approval. If that was his plan, he is going to get a real surprise. The Federal Government is governed by the Constitution and laws. Trump cannot override them and do what he wants.
FALSE! Did Eisenhower need all this to federalize Arkansas National Guard + send 1000 US troops to Little Rock , in 1957 ? Answer: NO. Get real.The Joint Chiefs of Staff, Congress and the Senate.
He canāt divert funds appropriated for the military and use them for his wall without an amendment to the omnibus bill, passed by 60 votes in the Senate.
You're the dumbass. You were oblivious to the Hillary lying, TV ad scam.Dumbass, "you gotta see this guy!"
FALSE! Did Eisenhower need all this to federalize Arkansas National Guard + send 1000 US troops to Little Rock , in 1957 ? Answer: NO. Get real.The Joint Chiefs of Staff, Congress and the Senate.
He canāt divert funds appropriated for the military and use them for his wall without an amendment to the omnibus bill, passed by 60 votes in the Senate.
We'll see. He's generally all hot air and flip flops. LEGALLY, I think he can probably use military engineers to do some stuff, but he'll be limited. And using combat troops to build shit ... not likely. And even then, there are ownership of land, environmental regulations ........ I think the 1.5 billion or whatever is about all that physically can be spent in a year.Yeah, Trump is not powerless to direct some military spending. He'll be sued if he starts buying steel and concrete with money not allocated to steel and concrete, but most likely there's steel and concrete money in there. He cannot decide to not buy some airplanes though.That's not what discretionary and mandatory mean. Discretionary just means congress may, or may not, pass a bill to spend x dollars on x in a given year ... or over several years. Defense spending comes in there. Congress passed the omnibus spending bill funding a pay increase and various ships, aircraft, vehicles, and military operations in various places around the world. Congress didn't have to do that, but it did.How many more times?....the Military spending is clearly marked "discretionary"....look up the word.
Here's What the Military Gets in $1.3 Trillion Omnibus Spending Bill
There's also spending on entitlement programs, like soc sec medicare Medicaid etc. That is mandated spending because congress passed laws, and potuses signed them, in years past that set out criteria for individuals to be eligible for govt largesse, and anyone meeting the criteria has to get the largesse or they can sue to force the gummit to pay. Mandatory spending and interest on the debt are non-negotiable, unless congress votes to change entitlement programs or we default on the debt
The legality, or illegality, of Trump's latest tweets about spending military spending for his wall comes down to he cannot unilaterally decide to not spend money allocated to a specific provision now that he signed the bill and made a law. That is, he can't decide to not make the new aircraft carrier and spend the money on the wall.
On the other hand, the Army Corp of Engineers is funded and it's missions are not specifically set forth in the law. The executive branch controls how troops are deployed. Although, if we didn't have enough Army engineers in Syria.... it wouldn't be as good.
If Trump builds the wall with discretionary military spending, the Democrats will have a hard time stopping that. Obama repeatedly ignored spending rules as well as executive privledge rules and Republicans couldn't stop him
True, but we're talking $20 billion out of almost $800 billion, I think the other $780 can buy some airplanes
LOL. Oh boy that was a really tough one, there. Oh gosh.Dumbfuck, it's the Department of Homeland Security that would manage construction of the wall, should it be built, not the Department of Defense. I know you're senile, but how many times does this need to be explained to you?
I'm kind of wondering what 's possessing you anti-wallers here. Do you think you're going to stop the wall, by saying it "doesn't get built," ? You got some kind of black magic ? You think ?you've gone full retard, i see.
when the wall doesn't get built, you'll know how right you are.
FALSE! POTUS is C in C of the DOD, not the congress. Nice try.He cannot use DOD money without Congressional approval. That would require 60 votes in the Senate.
