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Here are what I see as the HARMS of Immigration (in America). Feel free to dispute, debate, confirm, or whatever on any one or combination of these. This should be a good, rousing debate (but please try to stay on topic)
Harms of Immigration
1. Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).
2. Wage reduction.
3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).
4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($170 Billion year).
5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.
6. Increased crime.
7. Increased traffic congestion.
8. Increased pollution.
9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.
10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.
11. Overcrowding in government offices.
12. Overcrowding in schools.
13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.
14. Cultural erosion.
15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)
16. Introduction of foreign diseases
Here are what I see as the HARMS of Immigration (in America). Feel free to dispute, debate, confirm, or whatever on any one or combination of these. This should be a good, rousing debate (but please try to stay on topic)
Harms of Immigration
1. Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).
2. Wage reduction.
3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).
4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($170 Billion year).
5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.
6. Increased crime.
7. Increased traffic congestion.
8. Increased pollution.
9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.
10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.
11. Overcrowding in government offices.
12. Overcrowding in schools.
13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.
14. Cultural erosion.
15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)
16. Introduction of foreign diseases
you forgot criminals activity on a civilized society,robbery, mugging, murder etc., then the court/legal system to sit juries, prosecute and the end result of prisons, jails and compounds, they drain money, food, medical plus all other sources of basic living needs.
"A 2013 study from the National Venture Capital Association highlights the impacts of immigrant entrepreneurs on the U.S. economy, and shows that the number of immigrant-founded venture-funded companies is increasing."
Immigrant Entrepreneurs and Innovators across the United States | Immigration Policy Center
I know all about "Immigrant Entrepreneurship".
They can somehow never find Americans with the "skills" they need so they lobby for more cheap business visas.
"Employers must attest to the Department of Labor that they will pay wages to the H-1B nonimmigrant workers that are at least equal to the actual wage paid by the employer to other workers with similar experience and qualifications for the job in question, or the prevailing wage for the occupation in the area of intended employment whichever is greater."
http://www.dol.gov/whd/immigration/h1b.htm
I know all about "Immigrant Entrepreneurship".
They can somehow never find Americans with the "skills" they need so they lobby for more cheap business visas.
And that somehow is by ruling Americans out because of their practice of working for standard American wages (rather than 3rd world wages), and standard American working conditions (rather than 3rd world working conditions)
"Employers must attest to the Department of Labor that they will pay wages to the H-1B nonimmigrant workers that are at least equal to the actual wage paid by the employer to other workers with similar experience and qualifications for the job in question, or the prevailing wage for the occupation in the area of intended employment whichever is greater."
http://www.dol.gov/whd/immigration/h1b.htm
Do you believe everything you read?
That's a poor excuse for having nothing more than personal anecdote to support your position, champ.
"Employers must attest to the Department of Labor that they will pay wages to the H-1B nonimmigrant workers that are at least equal to the actual wage paid by the employer to other workers with similar experience and qualifications for the job in question, or the prevailing wage for the occupation in the area of intended employment whichever is greater."
http://www.dol.gov/whd/immigration/h1b.htm
Not sure if anyone missed this earlier...
I know all about "Immigrant Entrepreneurship".
They can somehow never find Americans with the "skills" they need so they lobby for more cheap business visas.
And that somehow is by ruling Americans out because of their practice of working for standard American wages (rather than 3rd world wages), and standard American working conditions (rather than 3rd world working conditions)
So, there should be a minimum wage?
Shouldn't people just get paid what the job is worth?
If someone's willing to do a job for $5 an hour, then that's what it's worth.
"Employers must attest to the Department of Labor that they will pay wages to the H-1B nonimmigrant workers that are at least equal to the actual wage paid by the employer to other workers with similar experience and qualifications for the job in question, or the prevailing wage for the occupation in the area of intended employment whichever is greater."
http://www.dol.gov/whd/immigration/h1b.htm
Do you believe everything you read?
What agency actually audits payroll?
I worked with plenty of visas who were being paid 20K/year for 80K year positions.
The banks finance municipal, state and federal political campaigns and you are naive enough to believe some government agency is holding their feet to the fire?
My God, you are living in an alternate universe.
I know all about "Immigrant Entrepreneurship".
They can somehow never find Americans with the "skills" they need so they lobby for more cheap business visas.
And that somehow is by ruling Americans out because of their practice of working for standard American wages (rather than 3rd world wages), and standard American working conditions (rather than 3rd world working conditions)
So, there should be a minimum wage?
Shouldn't people just get paid what the job is worth?
If someone's willing to do a job for $5 an hour, then that's what it's worth.
And that somehow is by ruling Americans out because of their practice of working for standard American wages (rather than 3rd world wages), and standard American working conditions (rather than 3rd world working conditions)
So, there should be a minimum wage?
Shouldn't people just get paid what the job is worth?
If someone's willing to do a job for $5 an hour, then that's what it's worth.
It's not a matter of what a job is "worth" to an employer. Employers don't get to set the rules for labor in America. If employers can't pay a decent, standard, AMERICAN, living wage to his workers, then he can't afford to be in business, period. In which case, he should do what all the rest of us who also can't afford to own our own business do > GET A JOB.
NO, they should NOT get paid somebody's idea of what a job is worth to them. They should get paid (for 40 hours a week work) what it would take to forge a living for themselves (for a family of 4). The criteria should DECENCY, nothing else.
And that somehow is by ruling Americans out because of their practice of working for standard American wages (rather than 3rd world wages), and standard American working conditions (rather than 3rd world working conditions)
So, there should be a minimum wage?
Shouldn't people just get paid what the job is worth?
If someone's willing to do a job for $5 an hour, then that's what it's worth.
Accountants belong to Associations that determine market dilution, and thus wages.
Lawyers belong to Associations that determine market dilution, and thus wages.
Physicians belong to Associations that determine market dilution, and thus wages.
Do you believe everything you read?
That's a poor excuse for having nothing more than personal anecdote to support your position, champ.
I didn't know that the Wall Street Journal and other such publications were anecdotal.
That's a poor excuse for having nothing more than personal anecdote to support your position, champ.
I didn't know that the Wall Street Journal and other such publications were anecdotal.
I didn't notice a link to either one in the quoted post.
"Anyway, immigration benefits the U.S. The economic advantages are significant. Many immigrants are natural entrepreneurs, establishing companies, creating jobs, and driving innovation. Well-educated and highly-trained foreign workers are inventive and productive. Expanded work forces increase business flexibility, allowing companies to quickly respond to changing demands. Larger labor forces also encourage specialization. Labor productivity rises as companies adjust to larger work forces and invest in employees."
