In Sworn Testimony, Generals Accuse Biden of Lying About Afghan Pullout

[Nostra]

Trump came up with the plan to leave. Do you believe he did so believing the government would fall?

Trump's plan was based on the Taliban doing/not doing certain things.

But your deflection is noted.

Care to try to bring the quotes from Bush, Obama, and Trump?

 

[pknopp]

Trump's plan was based on the Taliban doing/not doing certain things.

But your deflection is noted.

Care to try to bring the quotes from Bush, Obama, and Trump?

They all failed. I have no desire to look up their words as I am happy we are out. It's not very often things happen that I support. Call Biden whatever you wish. Makes no difference to me, we are out.

 

[Nostra]

They all failed. I have no desire to look up their words as I am happy we are out. It's not very often things happen that I support. Call Biden whatever you wish. Makes no difference to me, we are out.

Ok, so you admit you are a liar.

 

[struth]

The rats are jumping off the Biden Regime ship and throwing him and his regime under the bus.

Pentagon leaders blame State Department for chaotic Afghanistan evacuation of civilians​

Pressed on timing of evacuations, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said it was a 'State Department call'​

Top Pentagon officials blamed the State Department for not beginning evacuations of civilians from Afghanistan sooner, calling the efforts "chaotic," while defending the "skill and leadership" of U.S. troops during a hearing before the House Armed Services Committee Wednesday focused on the military withdrawal.

The U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan was complete on Aug. 31, after successfully evacuating more than 124,000 individuals from Kabul – including 6,000 American citizens. Despite the large number of evacuations prior to the withdrawal date, at least 100 American citizens and thousands of Afghan allies remain in Afghanistan.

Pressed on why evacuations did not begin sooner, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said it was a "State Department call."

"We provide an input, as I said in my opening statement, to the State Department," Austin said, explaining, though, that officials were "being cautioned" by the Ghani administration that "if they withdrew American citizens and SIV applicants at a pace that was too fast, it would cause a collapse of the government that we were trying to prevent."

"I think that went into the calculus," Austin said.

He added, though, that military officials "provided our input" to the State Department.

"We certainly would have liked to see it go faster or sooner," Austin said. "But, again, they had a number of things to think through as well."

Later, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley described the evacuation efforts in the days leading up to the Aug. 31 troop withdrawal deadline as "chaotic," when asked about the best way to extract U.S. military from Afghanistan.

Pentagon leaders blame State Department for chaotic Afghanistan evacuation of civilians

as he should this was all on xiden and the dembot cultist.

They did this all for political optics

xiden lied people died

 

[pknopp]

Ok, so you admit you are a liar.

The top US general conceded in a stark admission on Wednesday that the United States "lost" the 20-year war in Afghanistan.

"It is clear, it is obvious to all of us, that the war in Afghanistan did not end on the terms we wanted, with the Taliban in power in Kabul," General Mark Milley, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the House Armed Services Committee.

"The war was a strategic failure," Milley told a committee hearing about the US troop pullout from Afghanistan and the chaotic evacuation from the capital Kabul.

"It wasn't lost in the last 20 days or even 20 months," Milley said.

US 'lost' the 20-year war in Afghanistan: top US general - France 24

 

[Nostra]

The top US general conceded in a stark admission on Wednesday that the United States "lost" the 20-year war in Afghanistan.

"It is clear, it is obvious to all of us, that the war in Afghanistan did not end on the terms we wanted, with the Taliban in power in Kabul," General Mark Milley, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the House Armed Services Committee.

"The war was a strategic failure," Milley told a committee hearing about the US troop pullout from Afghanistan and the chaotic evacuation from the capital Kabul.

"It wasn't lost in the last 20 days or even 20 months," Milley said.

US 'lost' the 20-year war in Afghanistan: top US general - France 24

That's a quote from this week. I'm looking for quotes to back up your claim of Bush, Obama, and Trump lying to us about the Afghan govt not falling if we surrendered to the Taliban like Surrender Joe did.

Got any quotes like that?

 

[BlindBoo]

Glad to see you admit Surrender Joe was under no obligation from any agreement Trump made, and this entire debacle is owned by him 100%

It could have been a good lie, except for the Yammering Maw of the Trumpyberra!

Donald Trump: (22:53)
Afghanistan, where, by the way, I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process when other things…yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It’s a shame.

What do you think he meant by "They Couldn't Stop the Process"?

 

[BlindBoo]

Trump's plan was based on the Taliban doing/not doing certain things.

But your deflection is noted.

Care to try to bring the quotes from Bush, Obama, and Trump?

The Generals testified that the Taliban met only one condition, but the Trumpybear didn't care about their non compliance.

 

[occupied]

Shut up. You are happy to leave Americans behind and just forget them.

All through the pullout I repeatedly asked who these Americans are and why were they were so reluctant to leave. In the end having had no real answers I had to assume these people are there for less than honorable reasons. War profiteers and their private mercs can rot for all I care.

 

[struth]

We were told by all of them our invasion was going to be successful. It never had any chance of being successful.

It was successful, until Surrender Joe.

Blaming Bush, Trump and even Obama for Surrender Joey Xiden's actions is simply deflection from the reality of what happened

but as to be expect from a dembot cultist.

 

[Nostra]

It could have been a good lie, except for the Yammering Maw of the Trumpyberra!

Donald Trump: (22:53)
Afghanistan, where, by the way, I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process when other things…yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It’s a shame.

What do you think he meant by "They Couldn't Stop the Process"?

There was no treaty binding Surrender Joe to follow anything, Dumbass.

I quote by Trump months after he left office doesn't bind Biden to anything you blithering idiot.

 

[Nostra]

The Generals testified that the Taliban met only one condition, but the Trumpybear didn't care about their non compliance.

Did Trump pull our troops out?

 

[Nostra]

All through the pullout I repeatedly asked who these Americans are and why were they were so reluctant to leave. In the end having had no real answers I had to assume these people are there for less than honorable reasons. War profiteers and their private mercs can rot for all I care.

Yeah, all those people teaching Aghan girls to read and write were there to get rich.

 

[USAF 2023]

President Biden didn't make the agreement for our complete withdrawal. That was ol Trumpybear.

Post the text of this Trump deal, and highlight the parts Surrender Joe followed. Why do you morons keep spewing this lie knowing I will call you out with this challenge none of you have been able to meet BlindBoo

Sorry, but you are a LIAR. Trump’s pullout was CONDITIONAL. Playing devils advocate, say it wasn’t. Was it mandatory he follow it? He’s not following anything else!
Please tell us why he left our Military Hardware costing Billions of dollars and American citizens!

 

[struth]

There was no treaty binding Surrender Joe to follow anything, Dumbass.

I quote by Trump months after he left office doesn't bind Biden to anything you blithering idiot.

Moreover, when Trump made that statement, he didn't have the intel that Xiden had....he wasn't be told that the Taliban wasn't following the agreement, he wasn't being told of the threats etc.

Trump wanted, as we all did, to bring the troops home, but he wanted it to be done the right way...not the Xiden way

 

[Nostra]

Sorry, but you are a LIAR. Trump’s pullout was CONDITIONAL. Playing devils advocate, say it wasn’t. Was it mandatory he follow it? He’s not following anything else!
Please tell us why he left our Military Hardware costing Billions of dollars and American citizens!

Where did I lie?

 

[pknopp]

That's a quote from this week. I'm looking for quotes to back up your claim of Bush, Obama, and Trump lying to us about the Afghan govt not falling if we surrendered to the Taliban like Surrender Joe did.

Got any quotes like that?

We left. You want to frame it as "surrendering" as you know no one would frame it in those terms. We lost, we left.

 

[pknopp]

It was successful, until Surrender Joe.

Blaming Bush, Trump and even Obama for Surrender Joey Xiden's actions is simply deflection from the reality of what happened

but as to be expect from a dembot cultist.

The top US general conceded in a stark admission on Wednesday that the United States "lost" the 20-year war in Afghanistan.

"It is clear, it is obvious to all of us, that the war in Afghanistan did not end on the terms we wanted, with the Taliban in power in Kabul," General Mark Milley, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the House Armed Services Committee.

"The war was a strategic failure," Milley told a committee hearing about the US troop pullout from Afghanistan and the chaotic evacuation from the capital Kabul.

"It wasn't lost in the last 20 days or even 20 months," Milley said.

US 'lost' the 20-year war in Afghanistan: top US general - France 24

BTW Milley was appointed by Trump.

Trump Appoints Gen. Mark Milley Chairman Of The Joint Chiefs Of Staff

As we know, Trump only hires the best and the best say we lost long ago.......in fact, there was never anything to win.

 

[Nostra]

We left. You want to frame it as "surrendering" as you know no one would frame it in those terms. We lost, we left.

So?

Still waiting for those quotes from Bush, Obama, and Trump saying the Afghan govt wouldn't fall.

 

[BlindBoo]

There was no treaty binding Surrender Joe to follow anything, Dumbass.

I quote by Trump months after he left office doesn't bind Biden to anything you blithering idiot.

Sure, he could have stayed and gotten more of our kids killed.

You still haven't answered why the order by trump to leave by Jan 15, and then flip flopping to leave a skeleton force of 2500 troops? Was that in the Surrender agreement he signed? I mean he was the CIC who ordered that drastic cut. Was it out of spite to America for tossing his ass out of the White House in 2020? Probably, he is a petulant man.