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Which part are you having difficulty understanding:I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam.Stop generalising about a family you know nothing about. How about this generalisation 'mothers will say anything to protect their children'. And how about this, his brother, Shane Archer, stated he is NOT mentally ill.Thank you for the link! Uppermost in the case is his travels to the Middle East and his own proclamation that he did the shooting in the name of Islam. The mother suggested he had mental issues, not a Dr. She could have suggested this so he would have an insanity defense. She hoped the police had the wrong man when he was shot by the police officer at the scene and dropped the gun that was used to shoot Jesse. A hopeful mother does not make it true.
The mother is usually the first one to notice mental issues, men tend to deny them because of stigma. There's little in this person's actions to suggest rational thinking.
You seem to think *you* know all about them. How about taking your own advice?
You're claiming he isn't. What evidence do you base that on?
Another lie. You posted it SEVERAL times, hoping it would be viewed as another of your 'facts'. Lol.An illustration of how willing you are to spin for Muslims. One imam says he has no recollection of archer attending his mosque, and you endlessly post that Archer 'did not even attend mosque'. Lol.There is no proof he did not attend a mosque.Clearly he is influenced on the notion of killing in the name of Allah for the Islamic State.......a trend we see on the rise in the US and other western cultures regardless of official mental state or mosque attendance.
Quite possible. I was going by what one of the Imam's said - and what he said was he had no recollection of attending his mosque. My mistake.
Another lie. I posted it once. And then a correction (I made my comment early on, based on what was said in the news at the time).
Which part are you having difficulty understanding:I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam.Stop generalising about a family you know nothing about. How about this generalisation 'mothers will say anything to protect their children'. And how about this, his brother, Shane Archer, stated he is NOT mentally ill.The mother is usually the first one to notice mental issues, men tend to deny them because of stigma. There's little in this person's actions to suggest rational thinking.
You seem to think *you* know all about them. How about taking your own advice?
You're claiming he isn't. What evidence do you base that on?
I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam
The man said he did it for Islam.Which part are you having difficulty understanding:I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam.Stop generalising about a family you know nothing about. How about this generalisation 'mothers will say anything to protect their children'. And how about this, his brother, Shane Archer, stated he is NOT mentally ill.
You seem to think *you* know all about them. How about taking your own advice?
You're claiming he isn't. What evidence do you base that on?
I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam
You are the one claiming he did it for Islam and discounting mental illness with little more evidance.
Friday afternoon, Rashid denounced the shooting and said he did not know the gunman, whom police identified as Edward Archer, 30, of Philadelphia and Yeadon.
A few hours later, members of the masjid set Rashid straight by citing Archer's Muslim name.
"We called him Abdul Shaheed . . . Abdul means 'servant,' and Shaheed means 'the witness,' " Rashid said. "He was a frequent member of the masjid. But I did not know him as Archer. And I did not recognize his picture. We don't call each other by the names we had before we converted to Islam."
In an interview Sunday, Rashid went on to explain Archer's role at the mosque:
"He was no companion of mine. He attended certain affairs that we had. He organized touch football teams in the community. That was the extent of it."
Typically, for the most important prayer of the week, said Rashid, Masjid Mujahideen gets 150 to 200 worshipers.
Rashid said he was interviewed Friday by the FBI in its effort to learn more about Archer's background and associates.
The investigation took on added urgency Saturday after a tipster told police that Archer is associated with three men who may share his "radical" beliefs and constitute a continuing threat to police.
"The mosque is a public place. People come and go. Whoever he hung with of his age group I wouldn't know," said Rashid.
"He was one of the younger guys," said Rashid, who is 64. "I don't allow foolish talk around the mosque. Whatever his opinions were, it was not something that permeated around the mosque."
Rashid said he told investigators all he knows: That Archer made the hajj pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia, and at some point went to Egypt to study Arabic.
"He stayed there six months to a year, with his wife, and came back," said Rashid. He said the wife, whom he did not identify, is not a member of Masjid Mujahideen.
PHILADELPHIA, Jan 9 (Reuters) - The gunman who claimed allegiance to Islamic State after shooting a Philadelphia police officer was described by people who knew him as a devout, quiet Muslim who became more "combative" after trips to Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
As police charged Edward Archer on Saturday with attempted murder, aggravated assault and assault of a law enforcement officer, investigators continued to examine what prompted the 30-year-old construction worker to open fire on a police car.
Two people who knew him described a pious man who began expressing interest in Islam in his teenage years and devoted his life to religion. He participated in a local Muslim football league and worked on construction jobs, they added.
They said they did not understand why, at nearly midnight on Thursday, he approached officer Jesse Hartnett, 33, and fired 11 rounds, some at point-blank range, through the car window. Three shots struck the officer in his arm.
Archer later confessed to the attack and said he pledged allegiance to Islamic State, police said. FBI Special Agent Eric Ruona said Archer had traveled to Saudi Arabia in 2011 and Egypt in 2012 - a trip that a family friend said changed him.
"He became more drastic. More combative," said Jannah Abdulsalaam, who asked only to be identified by her Muslim name. "He was kind but I noticed that change."
The attack comes at a time of heightened anxiety in the United States over the threat posed by Islamic State. A Muslim couple inspired by the militant group killed 14 people on Dec. 2 in San Bernardino, California, just weeks after gunmen linked to the Islamic State group killed 130 people in Paris.
The man said he did it for Islam.Which part are you having difficulty understanding:I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam.You seem to think *you* know all about them. How about taking your own advice?
You're claiming he isn't. What evidence do you base that on?
I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam
You are the one claiming he did it for Islam and discounting mental illness with little more evidance.
Islam cannot speak.The man said he did it for Islam.Which part are you having difficulty understanding:I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam.
You're claiming he isn't. What evidence do you base that on?
I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam
You are the one claiming he did it for Islam and discounting mental illness with little more evidance.
So? Does Islam say he did it for them?
Which part are you having difficulty understanding:I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam.Stop generalising about a family you know nothing about. How about this generalisation 'mothers will say anything to protect their children'. And how about this, his brother, Shane Archer, stated he is NOT mentally ill.
You seem to think *you* know all about them. How about taking your own advice?
You're claiming he isn't. What evidence do you base that on?
I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam
You are the one claiming he did it for Islam and discounting mental illness with little more evidence.
Islam cannot speak.The man said he did it for Islam.Which part are you having difficulty understanding:You're claiming he isn't. What evidence do you base that on?
I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam
You are the one claiming he did it for Islam and discounting mental illness with little more evidance.
So? Does Islam say he did it for them?
Which part are you having difficulty understanding:I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam.You seem to think *you* know all about them. How about taking your own advice?
You're claiming he isn't. What evidence do you base that on?
I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam
You are the one claiming he did it for Islam and discounting mental illness with little more evidence.
Actually, there is evidence. Concrete, irrefutable, and undeniable evidence that this man was a devout Muslim who prayed regularly at the mosque and went to Saudi Arabia to perform the Hajj to Mecca.
Facts trump emotion.
That's what Edward Archer stated as he tried to assassinate a Philadelphia police officer in his marked police car just before midnight on Thursday. They Mayor denied any connection to Islam.
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But if you're saying it wasn't "in the name of Islam" I challenge you to prove otherwise.
A gunman claiming allegiance to Islamic State militants shot and seriously wounded a Philadelphia police officer, saying he ambushed his patrol car "in the name of Islam," the city's police commissioner said on Friday.
Edward Archer of Philadelphia approached Officer Jesse Hartnett, 33, shortly before midnight and fired 11 rounds, three of which hit the officer in his arm, authorities said. Police released still images from surveillance video that showed the gunman dressed in a long white robe walking toward the car and firing, eventually getting close enough to shoot at point-blank range through the window.
Hartnett chased Archer, who was arrested by responding officers and later confessed to the attack, police officials told reporters.
"He has confessed to committing this cowardly act in the name of Islam," Ross told a press conference, adding that the 30-year-old assailant also referenced Islamic State militants.
Philadelphia Police Captain James Clark added, "He said he pledges his allegiance to Islamic State, he follows Allah and that was the reason he was called on to do this."
Gunman ambushes Philadelphia policeman 'in the name of Islam'
The man heard voices. He was mentally ill. He never attended a mosque.
You ask them. And don't forget to take your taqiyya detector with you.Islam cannot speak.The man said he did it for Islam.Which part are you having difficulty understanding:
I'm not the one claiming to know anything about him, other than what he told the police, he did it for Islam. He may or may not be mentally ill, that's for a psychiatrist to decide, not you. You're the one spinning for him based on no evidence. I wonder why you endlessly do this for Muslims and Islam
You are the one claiming he did it for Islam and discounting mental illness with little more evidance.
So? Does Islam say he did it for them?
Ask 1000 Muslim-Americans whether they support this man's actions.
Then tell me which speaks for Islam, he or they.
Start them.Please, there would be so many threads started on it that even you would have to consolidate some of them. But since it is a Muslim perpetrator, we are expected to ignore the motivation and blame it on the Bosa Nova or something.If some crazy guy on the street ran up to a cop car shooting and shouting "Jesus told me to kill you!", this thread wouldn't exist.
Where are these millions of threads?
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This one is just informative...religion and mental illness, and why they can often be linked: Religion and schizophrenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now that you people think you've proven that all Muslims are guilty of terrorism, what's next?
Mass incarceration? Mass extermination?
What's your final solution?
Start them.Please, there would be so many threads started on it that even you would have to consolidate some of them. But since it is a Muslim perpetrator, we are expected to ignore the motivation and blame it on the Bosa Nova or something.If some crazy guy on the street ran up to a cop car shooting and shouting "Jesus told me to kill you!", this thread wouldn't exist.
Where are these millions of threads?
Suspected Serial Killer of 20 Victims, Now in Custody, Says God Instructed Him To “Cut Off Children’s Heads”
Mom accused of letting son kill daughter, says God told him to do it
Flanagan says God told him to kill Parker and Ward as payback for Charleston
Virginia Man Who Shot and Killed WDBJ Journalists Said Jehovah Told Him to Act
Mentally ill man slays Man in Manchester “VOICES TOLD ME TO KILL” | BlogEyeHD
Mom Allegedly Tries To Drown Son In Puddle Because Jesus Told Her To
Teacher Says 'Higher Power' Told Him To Attack Kid With Skateboard
Man Allegedly Stabs Grandma, Blames Archangel Michael
Nurse Thinks Grandmother Was Possessed, Beats Her To Death: Cops
Suspect: "Jesus And Mary Told Me To Kill Him Because He Is Satan's Spawn!"
This one is just informative...religion and mental illness, and why they can often be linked: Religion and schizophrenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Believe it or not, Coyote did little more than to argue for the link between mental illness and religion. Thus, Archer/Shaheed could have still been Muslim and mentally ill at the same time. This runs contrary to the "he wasn't Muslim, just mentally ill" narrative.
She said Shaheed Didn't go to mosque, implying he is not a Muslim. She based her constant claim that he's mentally ill on a comment made by his mother alone. The brother said otherwise, and no psychiatrist has commented. I don't really understand what you're getting at otherwise.Start them.Please, there would be so many threads started on it that even you would have to consolidate some of them. But since it is a Muslim perpetrator, we are expected to ignore the motivation and blame it on the Bosa Nova or something.If some crazy guy on the street ran up to a cop car shooting and shouting "Jesus told me to kill you!", this thread wouldn't exist.
Where are these millions of threads?
Suspected Serial Killer of 20 Victims, Now in Custody, Says God Instructed Him To “Cut Off Children’s Heads”
Mom accused of letting son kill daughter, says God told him to do it
Flanagan says God told him to kill Parker and Ward as payback for Charleston
Virginia Man Who Shot and Killed WDBJ Journalists Said Jehovah Told Him to Act
Mentally ill man slays Man in Manchester “VOICES TOLD ME TO KILL” | BlogEyeHD
Mom Allegedly Tries To Drown Son In Puddle Because Jesus Told Her To
Teacher Says 'Higher Power' Told Him To Attack Kid With Skateboard
Man Allegedly Stabs Grandma, Blames Archangel Michael
Nurse Thinks Grandmother Was Possessed, Beats Her To Death: Cops
Suspect: "Jesus And Mary Told Me To Kill Him Because He Is Satan's Spawn!"
This one is just informative...religion and mental illness, and why they can often be linked: Religion and schizophrenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Believe it or not, Coyote did little more than to argue for the link between mental illness and religion. Thus, Archer/Shaheed could have still been Muslim and mentally ill at the same time. This runs contrary to the "he wasn't Muslim, just mentally ill" narrative.
