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Good question. Why have any laws at all?Factless opinions. Opinions are both fact and fiction, that is why they are called opinions. As for him being charged, no chance. You seem to think because it is a federal law that it is good law. It is not. It is dumb law. Why does it need a federal law anyway? What is its point (the law that is)?
We'll see by Halloween, won't we?I always pay my debts
I just have trouble collecting them on the interweb
True about overbooking, but the Force Majeure factor here was the, apparently, last minute addition of four crew members. IMO, this is most likely due to a weather or mechanical issue involving the original crew. Time and additional facts will reveal the truth as to what happened.Force Majeure would be a far less avoidable situation than United's overbooked passenger seats.
When United found itself up against firm resistance the problem could have been resolved in a much more acceptable manner than what we've seen in the video.
You're the one who suggested people shouldn't have to obey laws. You tell me.Good question. Why have any laws at all?Factless opinions. Opinions are both fact and fiction, that is why they are called opinions. As for him being charged, no chance. You seem to think because it is a federal law that it is good law. It is not. It is dumb law. Why does it need a federal law anyway? What is its point (the law that is)?
Homicide is a great example. Why have homicide laws? What dumb arse laws! I mean, they are comparable to having to inconvenience people and chucking them off a flight because the airline hasn't got its shit together. What do you do for an encore compare rape laws to parking tickets?
You happen to know what you think you know. FYI, administrative leave is not suspension.I happen to know that it is standard policy in many police agencies to relieve an officer involved in officer-involved shooting and the officer placed on administrative leave with pay, pending the outcome of an investigation into the circumstances.
You are simply wrong. Now, be a good boy, apologize and slink off to wherever you came from.
You happen to know what you think you know. FYI, administrative leave is not suspension.I happen to know that it is standard policy in many police agencies to relieve an officer involved in officer-involved shooting and the officer placed on administrative leave with pay, pending the outcome of an investigation into the circumstances.
You are simply wrong. Now, be a good boy, apologize and slink off to wherever you came from.
A police officer on administrative leave retains full official status and payment. But when an officer is suspended he is off payroll and he surrenders shield and gun(s).
Now go and play somewhere else.
Since you probably don't have $25M handy, I'd be happy to settle this bet with a $25 Gold Membership paid to USMB. Your choice to accept or not. Think about it for a day but let me know soon since I expect charges to be filed on Dao any day now.We'll see by Halloween, won't we?I always pay my debts
I just have trouble collecting them on the interweb
You're the one who suggested people shouldn't have to obey laws. You tell me.
1) It's a 4.5 hour drive, so the good Doctor could have rented a car.What nobody seems to mention here is ---- this was a flight from Chicago to Louisville. For those not familiar with the area, that's too short of a distance to even fly at all. You hop in your car and just drive. It's under 300 miles even downtown to downtown.
--- which also means the United employees who wanted to deadhead could have done the same thing --- drive.
2) How much do you know about Federal flight crew flight time and duty time rules?
When you scream like a snowflake it's time to take you off the plane. Once you are in the air it's too late to deal with a maniac snowflake. That being said; cheap ass airlines need to offer more compensation than they currently do for bumping you.
Taxes pay for the Chicago PD, not United alone. Spin it all you like, but facts are facts.Same bet to you: $1000 says United airlines didn't beat or drag off Dao.1. Yes they did.
2. Slogan - Get on a doctor, get off a patient.
Who do you believe pays for that company?
Let me explain: Back when I had bookstores in Denver,
The mall paid a security company.
The stores paid the mall.
The customers of the stores paid the stores.
Get it?
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What bet?
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As for the $1000 bet you are dodging, you quoted it. If you owned bookstores, I'm assuming you can read. Am I assuming too much?
Again, you assume to much. You are making an emotional appeal, not a logical one. I've simply posted about the law. Feel free to quote where I support it or not.You're the one who suggested people shouldn't have to obey laws. You tell me.
No, I don't care for the law. And you seem think the law is okay...
...and read the Contract of Carriage when he did. Afterall, he's a doctor, right? Is it too much to assume he knows how to read?Yep, he could have but he bought a plane ticket....
Dude, everyone knows they brought in the local sheriff to do the dirty deed.No bet since they obviously did. Now. I bet you, contrary to your assertion that United airlines did it, that someone else did. $1000 bet. Your call.
Here we are, almost 200 posts in and I still don't know what your fucking point is? Cut the foreplay and state what your point is.Spin it like Bill Clinton claiming he never smoked pot or never had sex with that woman but facts are facts and law is law.
Have a really nice fucking day!
I understand and basically have no problem overbooking... as long as the airlines understand that one they do that and they run into a situation like 'this' they will be forced to pay whatever the customer wants / will accept to give up their seat....not what THEY are willing to pay....and they sure as hell have no fight to physically remove a passenger from the plane in such a situation as this.
I have no doubt that had they explained to the people on board the plane that he was a doctor who had to be at his destination AND offered MORE money someone would have ended up volunteering.
The lawyers are flocking.
not only that the airline would provide a hotel room for that NIGHT leaving the passenger to fend for himself from check out time (around 8 am ) untill flight departure .. cash might have helped get volunteers .Is $400 even enough to find a hotel room for the night? That compensation sounds outrageously low to me.
If the man lost money from his work or business they should pay for that along with a penalty bonus on top, say 3 times what he lost as compensation and for the asshole way they handled it, and do so within 30 days.
The airline offered $400 and then $800 for volunteers. This is for volunteering for a flight that leaves 3PM the NEXT DAY
They are not even offering cash, they are offering a "cash voucher" good for another United flight within one year
Hardly worth disrupting your schedule by one day. No wonder they didn't find people rushing to "volunteer"
What law did Dao break?True about overbooking, but the Force Majeure factor here was the, apparently, last minute addition of four crew members. IMO, this is most likely due to a weather or mechanical issue involving the original crew. Time and additional facts will reveal the truth as to what happened.Force Majeure would be a far less avoidable situation than United's overbooked passenger seats.
When United found itself up against firm resistance the problem could have been resolved in a much more acceptable manner than what we've seen in the video.
Regardless, United and the Chicago police acted lawfully while Dr. Dao did not. rightwinger has bet me $25,000,000 Dao won't face legal charges whereas I believe he will. True, I don't expect him to pay, but a win's a win!
