Injustice for white males

[JakeStarkey]

yidnar cannot define socialism, cannot tell us why socialism is good or bad, and cannot apply socialism to this discussion.

 

[yidnar]

Now you know how Black males feel in todays living. How it feels to go into a bank and try to get a loan to start a business,to buy a house even. Black folks are still getting the behind the 8 ball syndrone. I see it on this board the lies being posted about the whole race. So you are getting just a little payback from your own folks,probably the same folks that are giving Black folks such a hard time.So live with it.

Blacks, even ones with a much lower credit score than me have many more opportunities for loans and grants than I. How many more years do the white males have to face this discrimination before you will feel we are even and should be given equal opportunities?

one of the reasons for the economic crises .

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now you know how Black males feel in todays living. How it feels to go into a bank and try to get a loan to start a business,to buy a house even. Black folks are still getting the behind the 8 ball syndrone. I see it on this board the lies being posted about the whole race. So you are getting just a little payback from your own folks,probably the same folks that are giving Black folks such a hard time.So live with it.

Blacks, even ones with a much lower credit score than me have many more opportunities for loans and grants than I. How many more years do the white males have to face this discrimination before you will feel we are even and should be given equal opportunities?

one of the reasons for the economic crises .

Live with it, you race losers. It's all over for you, yidnar.

 

[squeeze berry]

Blacks, even ones with a much lower credit score than me have many more opportunities for loans and grants than I. How many more years do the white males have to face this discrimination before you will feel we are even and should be given equal opportunities?

one of the reasons for the economic crises .

Live with it, you race losers. It's all over for you, yidnar.

Yidnar was in the 15 car pile-up at Daytona?

Here Yid, what's your car's number?

 

[yidnar]

Blacks, even ones with a much lower credit score than me have many more opportunities for loans and grants than I. How many more years do the white males have to face this discrimination before you will feel we are even and should be given equal opportunities?

one of the reasons for the economic crises .

Live with it, you race losers. It's all over for you, yidnar.

when people like you reap what you sow you are the first to fall !! when the left gets their way their own weak constituents are hurt the worst because they are to lazy and weak minded to overcome their own self inflicted problems .no matter how badly the left screws things up conservatives will always work hard and find a way to succeed .

 

[gallantwarrior]

When oh when is the man going to finish keeping the white man down.

White males have the highest per capita income and wealth in this nation and the lowest unemployment and poverty rates of any large demographic....more evidence of the organized racism inherent in this society against him.

When will the white man ever get a break?

Amazing, considering all the breaks that minorities and women receive. You'd think more would take advantage of AA and all the bennies. But, no, it's much easier to sit you your ass and bitch about how "whitey" keeps y'all down.

 

[gallantwarrior]

OK, so How does one promote equality then, when many refuse to hire or promote people of other racial or ethnic backgrounds?

Education. The best thing to happen to race relations was the desegregation of schools.

Despite the fact that we've been educating people for over 50 years about this, there are still many who wouldn't hire or promote people of different races and ethnic groups.

Therefore, long term education is an answer, but it offers nothing in the short term.

Because some few people steadfastly disagree with you, everyone of the same race should be assumed to hold the same opinions and be punished? Oh, wait...I thought you were against such things. Oh, wait again...only when you agree with the group selected and singled out for preferential treatment.

 

[rightwinger]

I have never said that.

The premise behind affirmative action is the very thing they were trying to stop.

It's hypocritical.

One does not promote equality by mandating special treatment.

How does one promote equality then, when many refuse to hire or promote people of other racial or ethnic backgrounds?

Promotion and force are antithetical.

The government cannot legislate societal attitudes.

The government did not legislate societal attitudes. You could still hate anyone you wanted. You could still hire anyone you wanted

But if you wanted a government contract.......you had better not discriminate

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

After listening to the president speak about Rosa Parks and her stand against injustices against black people so many years ago I admire her courage. It made me wonder though is it time for a white male, a Rosa Parks type, to emerge. Nobody can deny the discrimination against white males in America today. Is it even possible for a white male to move to the front of the bus and refuse to give up his seat. Perhaps it is even more hazardous today than when Rosa Parks did it so many years ago. We as white males should demand equal opportunity for jobs. We as white males should demand equal opportunity to entrance in medical schools, law schools, and colleges.

That’s rather idiotic.

Otherwise, if you believe white men are subject to discrimination, file suit in Federal court seeking relief; if violations of white males’ civil liberties are so egregious, then you’ll have no trouble making your case.

 

[JakeStarkey]

one of the reasons for the economic crises .

Live with it, you race losers. It's all over for you, yidnar.

when people like you reap what you sow you are the first to fall !! when the left gets their way their own weak constituents are hurt the worst because they are to lazy and weak minded to overcome their own self inflicted problems .no matter how badly the left screws things up conservatives will always work hard and find a way to succeed .

If you believe that we in the white male sector are abused, then sue under federal discrimination laws. If you have a legitimate case, you will win.

As a white male, born poor, I have done incredibly well. And I am nothing than one of scores of millions of white males who have done well. I suspect your failure, yidnar, is of your own making, not discrimination.

You sound as if you are a whiney, weak liberal.

 

[yidnar]

Live with it, you race losers. It's all over for you, yidnar.

when people like you reap what you sow you are the first to fall !! when the left gets their way their own weak constituents are hurt the worst because they are to lazy and weak minded to overcome their own self inflicted problems .no matter how badly the left screws things up conservatives will always work hard and find a way to succeed .

If you believe that we in the white male sector are abused, then sue under federal discrimination laws. If you have a legitimate case, you will win.

As a white male, born poor, I have done incredibly well. And I am nothing than one of scores of millions of white males who have done well. I suspect your failure, yidnar, is of your own making, not discrimination.

You sound as if you are a whiney, weak liberal.

you don't hear me or any other conservative on this board whining about someone making more money than we do libb !! thats the lefts baby not ours !!

 

[Skull Pilot]

OK, so How does one promote equality then, when many refuse to hire or promote people of other racial or ethnic backgrounds?

Education. The best thing to happen to race relations was the desegregation of schools.

Despite the fact that we've been educating people for over 50 years about this, there are still many who wouldn't hire or promote people of different races and ethnic groups.

So what? The government should not be able to force a private business to hire anyone or penalize them for not hiring someone.

Therefore, long term education is an answer, but it offers nothing in the short term.

The problem with America in general is that we only think in the short term.

Short term heavy handed interference does not solve problems. We are winning the war of attrition with race relations. That should be good enough.

 

[rightwinger]

Education. The best thing to happen to race relations was the desegregation of schools.

Despite the fact that we've been educating people for over 50 years about this, there are still many who wouldn't hire or promote people of different races and ethnic groups.

So what? The government should not be able to force a private business to hire anyone or penalize them for not hiring someone.

Therefore, long term education is an answer, but it offers nothing in the short term.

The problem with America in general is that we only think in the short term.

Short term heavy handed interference does not solve problems. We are winning the war of attrition with race relations. That should be good enough.

The government has the right to set the terms for those it does business with,

 

[Skull Pilot]

Despite the fact that we've been educating people for over 50 years about this, there are still many who wouldn't hire or promote people of different races and ethnic groups.

So what? The government should not be able to force a private business to hire anyone or penalize them for not hiring someone.

Therefore, long term education is an answer, but it offers nothing in the short term.

The problem with America in general is that we only think in the short term.

Short term heavy handed interference does not solve problems. We are winning the war of attrition with race relations. That should be good enough.

The government has the right to set the terms for those it does business with,

Affirmative Action does not only apply to government contracts.

 

[rightwinger]

So what? The government should not be able to force a private business to hire anyone or penalize them for not hiring someone.



The problem with America in general is that we only think in the short term.

Short term heavy handed interference does not solve problems. We are winning the war of attrition with race relations. That should be good enough.

The government has the right to set the terms for those it does business with,

Affirmative Action does not only apply to government contracts.

Can you show how it was enforced against employers that were not government or did not have a government contract?

 

[Skull Pilot]

The government has the right to set the terms for those it does business with,

Affirmative Action does not only apply to government contracts.

Can you show how it was enforced against employers that were not government or did not have a government contract?

Millions of so called discrimination law suits....

 

[katsteve2012]

Affirmative action had nothing to do with slavery

Of course it does.

It has to do with the fallout of slavery. Repairing the inequities of the past and all that happy horse shit.

No it didn't

Women, Native Americans and Hispanics also benefitted from Afirmative Action programs

And since the inception of the program white females have benefitted from it the most, but reading some of the whinefests in this forum, you would think that Affirmative Action was a program specifically created by liberals for blacks to "victimize" white males.

 

[rightwinger]

Affirmative Action does not only apply to government contracts.

Can you show how it was enforced against employers that were not government or did not have a government contract?

Millions of so called discrimination law suits....

That is not affirmative action

 

[Skull Pilot]

Can you show how it was enforced against employers that were not government or did not have a government contract?

Millions of so called discrimination law suits....

That is not affirmative action

Bullshit. it's all related.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Federal and state
courts may require private employers to engage in affirmative action as a remedy for past discrimination under Title VII.58
Judicial remedies for discriminating against protected individuals under Title VII include the establishment of numerical goals and timetables for hiring and promotions.

http://law.hofstra.edu/pdf/labor_Appel_Loy_Gray_vol22no2.pdf

AA can be forced upon private employers.