Is Bush A Racist?

[William Joyce]

What liberals call "racism" is really just the very natural apprehension that racial groups have for one another. If you don't want to hire a black person because the last three blacks you hired were terrible workers and/or stole from the cash register, that's not "racism." That's common sense.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by OCA
Question: How has RWA been personally hurt or inconvenienced by Affirmative Action?

Typically civilized people address questions to the person whom the question's about when that person is present. Classy. Anyway...

Right and wrong has nothing to do with me. I've never been mudered or been a murderer, but i have distinct and powerful feelings about the act. As we all do. You're buffoonic.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by William Joyce
What liberals call "racism" is really just the very natural apprehension that racial groups have for one another. If you don't want to hire a black person because the last three blacks you hired were terrible workers and/or stole from the cash register, that's not "racism." That's common sense.

By that thinking I'd be pretty smart to not hire the next redneck, black hating, piece of trailer trash because the last 3 were lousy workers? If you would classify an entire group by 3 of its people then they aren't the one with the issue.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Yeah. Sniff my wake. I'm a skull crusher, bitchasses!

 

[OCA]

RWA you do no help to the Republican party, you might as well be with the Greens for all the good you are, the question was addressed to you, again the reading comprehension problem.

You have yet to anwer a question or offer any solution which is I guess your typical style.

Come on and hit me with some more names its really helping your case out.

 

[William Joyce]

"By that thinking I'd be pretty smart to not hire the next redneck, black hating, piece of trailer trash because the last 3 were lousy workers?"

Whatever floats your boat. The SS Karl Marx, isn't it?

Only, the guy'd probably work his ass off, never complain and never sue you for discrimini-mayshun'. White people are GREAT workers and everybody knows it. Why is aspirin white? Well, you want it to work, don't you?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by OCA
RWA you do no help to the Republican party, you might as well be with the Greens for all the good you are, the question was addressed to you, again the reading comprehension problem.

You have yet to anwer a question or offer any solution which is I guess your typical style.

Come on and hit me with some more names its really helping your case out.

The solution is that it will go away with time, intermarriage, discussions of tolerance and understanding. Institutionalized race based discrimination only fans the flames of racial resentment; you admitted previously that you justify AA as a reaction against people like William D, but he justifies his thinking as reaction against your policies. Get a grip.

What question would you like me to answer?

It doesn't or hasn't effected me personally, except in making me angry, as do many injustices. Was that it? You libs are so evasive it's laughable.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

William D? I've merged them. SOrry guys. :clap1:

 

[LoneVoice]

Originally posted by William Joyce
What liberals call "racism" is really just the very natural apprehension that racial groups have for one another. If you don't want to hire a black person because the last three blacks you hired were terrible workers and/or stole from the cash register, that's not "racism." That's common sense.

See.... You've got severely screwed up logic that doesn't add or contribute. Except you are a prime example of racist policies that resulted in enacting affirmative action policies to rebutt your racist view.

If you hired three blacks who were terrible workers and/or stole from the cash register, then you hired three bad employees. If you don't hire the next employee because he's Black, then that would be racist. You should be looking for good employees no matter what their race is. Just to continue your analogy, when you hire the next three white employees who turn out to be terrible workers and/or steal cash from the register, then you shouldn't hire whites either. Even in all the statistics that you've posted, it's shown that whites have stolen and committed crimes. You want to allege that since Blacks had a higher rate in those statistics, that they should all be cast out. It also demonstrated that a large majority of both races didn't commit crimes.

But you'll continue to maintain your racial views on the subject. So that's fine. Your comments exactly prove my points, by shear example.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

You can ignore my excellent arguments, lonevoice. It won't make you right, however. Race based discrimination is wrong on all accounts, as are you.

 

[William Joyce]

Well, LV, I've "proven your point" in so far as people --- and that includes, however much liberals want to deny it, BLACKS TOO --- are naturally "racist," i.e., use common sense and experience to inform their perceptions of other people. Where you and I disagree is over whether this is a bad thing that must --- and can -- be changed.

I don't see it that way. Races are different. Period. They're not going to get along because they never have. Never in the history of America, the world and probably the multiracial galaxy have races gotten along, unless they've been forced together by brutally repressive community regimes, super-high taxation and censorship of free speech, or, oh, I don't know... America. Imagining that races can co-exist is Marxist fantasy. Ain't gonna happen, bub.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by William Joyce
Well, I've "proven your point" in so far as people --- and that includes, however much liberals want to deny it, BLACKS TOO --- are naturally "racist," i.e., use common sense and experience to inform their perceptions of other people. Where you and I disagree is over whether this is a bad thing that must --- and can -- be changed.

I don't see it that way. Races are different. Period. They're not going to get along because they never have. Never in the history of America, the world and probably the multiracial galaxy have races gotten along, unless they've been forced together by brutally repressive community regimes, super-high taxation and censorship of free speech, or, oh, I don't know... America. Imagining that races can co-exist is Marxist fantasy. Ain't gonna happen, bub.

This is a depressing view and it's wrong. This society even though it has problems, is getting better and better. Idiots like you perpetuate the hate. Don't perpetuhate. We can be different, that doesn't mean we can't and don't get along. You and the libs deserve each other, both of your should be ashamed of your backward views.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Both of you need to go eat shit.

 

[Moi]

Gentlemen: I understand that these topics sometimes get us hot under the collar, but let's try to keep the debate on point and use logic, not cursing and bashing.

Thanks.

P.S. Believe me, I sometimes flip my lid too.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by Moi
Gentlemen: I understand that these topics sometimes get us hot under the collar, but let's try to keep the debate on point and use logic, not cursing and bashing.

Thanks.

P.S. Believe me, I sometimes flip my lid too.

Ok. I retract my dietary suggestion, y'all. What's your feeling on the topic at hand, Moy?

 

[Moi]

If I remember correctly, the topic was whether bush is a racist. My answer is, emphatically, no.

I don't think anyone can show anything in his past which shows that he's a racist. Nor, I might add, do I think all republicans are racists. The fact is that there are many racists, some are republicans some not.

As far as affirmative action goes, you can flip a few pages back and see: reverse discrimation is just that- discrimination.

The only way to counter racism is to erradicate it, not reverse it.

 

[DKSuddeth]

stating that the races never have, and never will, get along simply because their different races is ridiculous. The only generalization that could possibly be truthful is that the appearance of hostilities between races will always get more notice than comeraderie between the races because people getting along would be natural, not newsworthy.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by Moi
If I remember correctly, the topic was whether bush is a racist. My answer is, emphatically, no.

I don't think anyone can show anything in his past which shows that he's a racist. Nor, I might add, do I think all republicans are racists. The fact is that there are many racists, some are republicans some not.

As far as affirmative action goes, you can flip a few pages back and see: reverse discrimation is just that- discrimination.

The only way to counter racism is to erradicate it, not reverse it.

Thank you moi. I felt so lonely Fighting with these racialist extremists. You know what, at least William is more self aware in that at least he knows what he is. Lonerboner is 100% sans-a-clue.

 

[cptpwichita]

Doesn't affirmative action violate the constitutional rights of employers to hire who they want to hire.If you then didn't like their hiring practices you could boycott their products.

 

[lilcountriegal]

[/i] Currently minorities don't have the same access...

I have to take exception to this. Minorites DO have the same access, and in some instances, even more.

When interviewing for a job (my only experience was government, i.e., County, State, or Fed) if the interivew process was down to myself and one African American female, the job would go to her, regardless of qualifications, simply because she is a minority. There are numbers that each agency has to keep up with in regard to number of minority employees.

THAT gives an African American female more access than a Caucasian female.