Is Christmas a Christian (or Catholic) Holiday?

[kjw47]

God might be dead and he has no heir to the throne.


Jesus WAS NOT the messiah. He didn't fulfil the requirements so all of that hocus-pocus and superstition about him is fantasy, pure fantasy, and nothing but fantasy. It can be summed up very easily: Christians are Jews who have no faith. It's as simple as that.

God isnt dead. This system is almost done. It will not get better only worse. Jesus filled most all the prophecies of the messiah. some will come shortly. Most christian religions are fake, there is no trinity god in existence.

 

[GLASNOST]

God isnt dead. ...

You have no proof of that. I have planted quite a lot of trees but and when I die they will continue to grow and repoduce.

.... Jesus filled most all the prophecies of the messiah.

That's like saying, "This cardboard box doesn't have wheels or an engine but it fills most of the properties of an automobile such as a seat, bumpers, a horn and a rear-view mirror".

 

[kjw47]

You have no proof of that. I have planted quite a lot of trees but and when I die they will continue to grow and repoduce.


That's like saying, "This cardboard box doesn't have wheels or an engine but it fills most of the properties of an automobile such as a seat, bumpers, a horn and a rear-view mirror".

When he comes back to this earth to fullfill the remaining ones the majority will not like it. Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day. back then 99.9% were wicked in Gods eyes. The numbers have not changed much. 99% minimum are wicked in Gods view. They will not listen to Jesus.

 

[GLASNOST]

When he comes back to this earth to fullfill the remaining ones ....

The messiah doesn’t need a series of chances to get it right. If this Jesus fellow couldn’t cut the mustard the first time then he ain’t the messiah.

Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day.

I compare Christianity to Jim Jones’ and David Koresh's day. Hocus-pocus, gibberish, flames and kool-aid.

They will not listen to Jesus.

No one can listen to a corpse.

 

[kjw47]

The messiah doesn’t need a series of chances to get it right. If this Jesus fellow couldn’t cut the mustard the first time then he ain’t the messiah.


I compare Christianity to Jim Jones’ and David Koresh's day. Hocus-pocus, gibberish, flames and kool-aid.

No one can listen to a corpse.

His words are preserved in every translation on earth.
99% of all religions claiming to be christian arent. There is no division in the religion Jesus started-1Corinthians 1:10-- unity of thought, no division. Some prophecys had a fullfillment in the future- These are the end of the last days.

 

[GLASNOST]

His words are preserved .....

You and I both know that is not true.

99% of all religions claiming to be christian arent. There is no division in the religion Jesus started-1Corinthians 1:10-- unity of thought, no division. Some prophecys had a fullfillment in the future- These are the end of the last days.

I've sifted through each and every one of your words but there is no mention of Jesus having fulfilled the prophecies of the messiah. THE BOTTOM LINE: Jesus was not the messiah. You know it. I know it.

 

[kjw47]

You and I both know that is not true.



I've sifted through each and every one of your words but there is no mention of Jesus having fulfilled the prophecies of the messiah. THE BOTTOM LINE: Jesus was not the messiah. You know it. I know it.

I know 100% he was.
The blind guides leading Israel back in his day on earth. thought a mighty king was coming to wipe out the romans. a carpenters son showed up because it was not time for his kingship. At Har-mageddon every eye will see that mighty king come to earth leading Gods angelic armies.

 

[kjw47]

I know 100% he was.
The blind guides leading Israel back in his day on earth. thought a mighty king was coming to wipe out the romans. a carpenters son showed up because it was not time for his kingship. At Har-mageddon every eye will see that mighty king come to earth leading Gods angelic armies. 99% will be standing in opposition-Rev 16.

 

[GLASNOST]

I know 100% he was.
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You know very well that Jesus was not the messiah because he did not fulfil the messianic prophecies. I know that you WANT to believe but you don't. Not believing is a good sign. It means that you know how to think.

 

[kjw47]

You know very well that Jesus was not the messiah because he did not fulfil the messianic prophecies. I know that you WANT to believe but you don't. Not believing is a good sign. It means that you know how to think.

He has fullfilled the majority of them, the rest he will fullfill when the appointed time comes.

 

[GLASNOST]

He has fullfilled the majority of them, the rest he will fullfill when the appointed time comes.

The messianic prophecies say the messiah will fulfil all of the prophecies "at once" ..... not piecemeal every few thousand years. Jesus is a false messiah. You know it. I know it.

 

[kjw47]

The messianic prophecies say the messiah will fulfil all of the prophecies "at once" ..... not piecemeal every few thousand years. Jesus is a false messiah. You know it. I know it.

Show me where it says that. You cant because it doesnt say that. Your thinking is as the Israelite leaders back then who were in error.

 

[GLASNOST]

He has fullfilled the majority of them, the rest he will fullfill when the appointed time comes.

Show me where it says that. You can't because it doesn't say that. Your thinking is as the Christ-followers who forsake the one God to create a revisionist, hocus-pocus, superstitious three Gods by rewriting the Bible. Blasphemous infidel!

 

[kjw47]

Show me where it says that. You can't because it doesn't say that. Your thinking is as the Christ-followers who forsake the one God to create a revisionist, hocus-pocus, superstitious three Gods by rewriting the Bible. Blasphemous infidel!

Who is the one God. You probably do not know facts on that matter either. My God Is YHWH. not a non existent trinity. Its proven fact a trinity does not exist. Only those who want their ears tickled with the lie--you are saved- believe in that god. Then they dont have to obey Jesus or God. Those will be in for a rude awakening.

 

[GLASNOST]

Who is the one God. You probably do not know facts on that matter either. My God Is YHWH. not a non existent trinity. Its proven fact a trinity does not exist. Only those who want their ears tickled with the lie--you are saved- believe in that god. Then they dont have to obey Jesus or God. Those will be in for a rude awakening.

You're just making it up as you go along. I've been treating you with respect but we're at the end of the road now.

 

[kjw47]

You're just making it up as you go along. I've been treating you with respect but we're at the end of the road now.

No i am not making it up. how much have you checked into the facts of history of true God worship--probably 0-- here are the facts

From Moses on up until this very day the Israelite religion while serving the true God, taught, served and worshipped a single being God= YHWH( Jehovah) Thus when Jesus attended their places of worship was taught that God as well, as was every bible writer.

The religion that came out of Rome changed God. Here are the facts on that out of there own encyclopedia.
First in the 2nd century a man named Terrillion was considering God to be a trinity-Why? Because the single being God was still served by early christians. At the first council of Nicea in 325, no trinity was being taught or served, it was added at a later council
The new catholic encyclopedia-1967-Volume XIV--page 299 says-- The formulation- one god in three persons- was not solidly established, certainly not assimilated into christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. Among the apostolic fathers there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.

See when one does their homework because they care enough to find truth and care to gain eternal life in Gods kingdom can easily find the facts.
Few bother do you know why? Some man with a white collar assurred them-you are saved. Its far from truth.

 

[GLASNOST]

No i am not making it up. how much have you checked into the facts of history of true God worship--probably 0-- here are the facts
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See when one does their homework because they care enough to find truth and care to gain eternal life in Gods kingdom can easily find the facts.

None of your sources are legitimate/trustworthy/reliable/credible.

Few bother do you know why? Some man with a white collar assurred them-you are saved.

No. Because learned men and women and logic prove the Bible is fantasy written by superstitious men who believed that forsaking the one god would be acceptable if they could convince their fellow man that virgins could give birth and people could rise from the dead and the false messiah could be excused for only fulfilling a few of the prophecies and "come back later" for some ad hoc hocus-pocus.

 

[Dadoalex]

I find this piece interesting and tellworthy, because nowadays many denie the christian roots of Christmas they just equal it with ancient pagan roots, and consumerism. They want to erase the Christ out of Christmas. Many just say "But Christmas is pagan not Christian."

Read Catholic Roots of Christmas


Catholic Roots of Christmas
December 19, 2020
Christmas honors the pivotal day which altered all of history. Christians around the world celebrate Christmas as the birthday of Christ Jesus. On this day, God Incarnate departed the hidden tabernacle of Mary’s womb into the blissful embrace of His mother’s arms. And she, in turn, presented this unblemished child, this Divine Gift, to all the world that we might adore Him as “Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6).

As with any child’s arrival, there are many preparations to be made before welcoming the new family member; an expecting family gathers bathing items, blankets, and a collection of cozy outfits. Faithful members of the Catholic Christian family prepare for Christ’s coming by observing the season of Advent.

Advent is a time of joyful anticipation in which the faithful prepare their hearts for the most special arrival of the Divine Infant. Formally introduced by the Council of Tours in 567 AD, the Advent season begins four Sundays prior to Christmas Day. This period provides a precursor to the special holy day when the Light of the World shines amidst the darkness, the Sign of Hope dispels all despair.

One Catholic tradition orienting believers toward Christ’s coming is the Nativity Scene. This practice harkens back to Medieval times when in 1223, St. Francis of Assisi directed a live nativity scene as a form of public remembrance honoring Christ’s birth. St. Francis wanted to bring the Gospels to life, assigning parts for Mary, Joseph, the shepherds, and others so that in witnessing this reenactment, all people would learn the extraordinary story of God’s love for mankind. Often the nativity creche remains empty until Christmas Eve as a reminder that the faithful eagerly await the Christ child. And when the Divine Infant arrives, how much greater is the joy during the Christmas vigil when Baby Jesus joins the Holy Family and all humanity!

When the faithful prepare their hearts properly, the blessings of Christmas may be appreciated in full. “We Christians are called to safeguard and spread the joy of waiting,” Pope Francis declared in a Vatican address. Additionally, much as the faithful await Christ’s birth in remembrance of the first Christmas, the Catholic liturgical readings point the faithful toward awaiting Christ’s ultimate return upon Judgement Day.

According to Catholic tradition, the rejoicing of Christ’s coming lasts considerably longer than one great day. Rather, it stretches from the Christmas vigil Mass until the Feast of the Epiphany, sometimes called Three Kings’ Day.

Why did the Church choose to celebrate Christ’s birth on December 25? The most direct answer is that according to the Roman calendar, this day marked the winter solstice. Saint Augustine explained the significance of this day in remembering Christ’s coming, writing, “on the day which is the shortest in our earthly reckoning and from which subsequent days begin to increase in length. He, therefore, who bent low and lifted us up chose the shortest day, yet the one whence light begins to increase.”

The most excellent Catholic tradition of celebrating Christmas as a family is attending Holy Mass together. Even young adults who may have strayed from observing other tenets of their Catholic faith will often return to Mass with their families in order to observe the sacred Feast of the Nativity.

Christmas is a rare time when the Mass readings differ according to the order in which the Mass is offered. There are four distinct Christmas Masses. The Vigil Mass is offered at the start of Christmas Eve. The Mass of the angels is a popular celebration, offered at midnight. The Dawn Mass is called the Mass of the Shepherds; it is offered early morning. Finally, on Christmas Day, the priest offers the Mass of the Divine Word.

The Christmas octave is punctuated with a feast that originally honored Christ’s circumcision. In present times, the Catholic Church commemorates the first day of the year as the Feast of Mary, Mother of God. This holy day respects Mary’s unique human privilege of forming Christ physically and spiritually before releasing Him into the world to fulfill His divine salvific work.

The end of the Christmas season points toward this extraordinary mission for which God entered the world. According to Catholic tradition, the Magi, called the Three Kings, spent 12 days following a star. The brilliant star led them to Bethlehem, where Jesus had just been born. The Wise Men—Melchior, Caspar, and Balthazar—presented three symbolic gifts to the Holy Family for their newborn son. The kings presented to the Divine Child gold to honor His kingship, frankincense to honor His priesthood, and myrrh to honor His humanity.

Many families around the world present gifts to one another either in celebration of Christmas Day or in commemoration of the Three Kings. The faithful fulfill the Christmas spirit when offering their own hearts to the Divine Messiah who humbled Himself to enter the world as a small child.

Article written by Myriah C. Boudreaux for Christian Catholic Media

Myriah C. Boudreaux graduated from Franciscan University of Steubenville with a BA in Psychology. Soon after, she left her native Southern California home to marry a FUS alumnus, start a family, settle in Bayou Country with her Cajun husband, and begin a career homeschooling their ever-growing family. With seven children ranging from ages 21 – 2, her practical understanding of Heavenly Father's patience, love, and mercy is continually expanding.

Christmas, as a religious holiday, is little more than the Christian churches "borrowing" the Pegan end of year celebration.

In reality...

Christmas is nothing but a capitalist holiday.

 

[kjw47]

None of your sources are legitimate/trustworthy/reliable/credible.

No. Because learned men and women and logic prove the Bible is fantasy written by superstitious men who believed that forsaking the one god would be acceptable if they could convince their fellow man that virgins could give birth and people could rise from the dead and the false messiah could be excused for only fulfilling a few of the prophecies and "come back later" for some ad hoc hocus-pocus.

Oh i understand now. You let the darkness beat you and all that would listen to you. Satan is very powerful. He beat way better than you. 1/3 of the angels fell, and they know a gazillion x more than you do.

 

[GLASNOST]

Christmas, as a religious holiday, is little more than the Christian churches "borrowing" the Pegan end of year celebration.

In reality...

Christmas is nothing but a capitalist holiday.

I don't know a lot about the background but I must agree that yes, "Christmas is nothing but a capitalist holiday."