Is Sanders Retarded or Insane?

[ScienceRocks]

Bernie is so fucking right!! They get this wealth by under paying their workers and taking it all. These hogs need to be taxed and regulated!!!

 

[washamericom]

I am actually asking this question specifically in reference to a quote that's been ALL THE RAGE amongst my more liberal acquaintances and just makes me shake my head.

"The Republican debates are over. Not one word about income and wealth inequality, climate change, Citizens United, or student debt. That's why the Republicans are so out of touch with the American people. What I heard was more tax breaks for the rich, more people losing health insurance, and more talk about war. That's not what we need."

Speaking of being out of touch. Exactly how clueless and narcissistic is ol' Liver Spots not to realize that a Republican debate is going to be about issues that matter to REPUBLICANS, which are not chosen and defined by liberals and their buzzwords and memes? Why in the Hell does he think there are two major and multiple minor political parties in the country in the first place? Did he actually think reality consisted of the liberal socialist echo chamber? He certainly appears to believe that "the American people" consists only of people who agree with him. Seems to be quite a rude shock for him to find out that there are large numbers of people in this country who don't give the fat, furry crack of a rat's ass about his talking points, and that there are politicians out there who agree with those people and relate to THEM.

So what's the source of Bernie Boy's tunnel vision and oblivion? Is he a nut, or just not real swift on the uptake?

U R very disrespectful, by anyone's standards

 

[jasonnfree]

I am actually asking this question specifically in reference to a quote that's been ALL THE RAGE amongst my more liberal acquaintances and just makes me shake my head.

"The Republican debates are over. Not one word about income and wealth inequality, climate change, Citizens United, or student debt. That's why the Republicans are so out of touch with the American people. What I heard was more tax breaks for the rich, more people losing health insurance, and more talk about war. That's not what we need."

Speaking of being out of touch. Exactly how clueless and narcissistic is ol' Liver Spots not to realize that a Republican debate is going to be about issues that matter to REPUBLICANS, which are not chosen and defined by liberals and their buzzwords and memes? Why in the Hell does he think there are two major and multiple minor political parties in the country in the first place? Did he actually think reality consisted of the liberal socialist echo chamber? He certainly appears to believe that "the American people" consists only of people who agree with him. Seems to be quite a rude shock for him to find out that there are large numbers of people in this country who don't give the fat, furry crack of a rat's ass about his talking points, and that there are politicians out there who agree with those people and relate to THEM.

So what's the source of Bernie Boy's tunnel vision and oblivion? Is he a nut, or just not real swift on the uptake?

Dear Cecilie1200

If you can imagine all the parties and leaders are like different professors in different depts,
then each one can fill chalkboards full of what they have studied to the letter,
but can't give an informed opinion of something that is "someone else's dept."

Why not focus on the subjects and political history that people DO excel in and know what they're talking about?

Why can't we assimilate all this wealth of knowledge and expertise together
like Volumes of an Encyclopedia set from A to Z.

Why do the volumes on environmental issues and ecosystems need to compete with those on war strategies
and cultural history of which nation hasn't resolved X Y Z with which neighbor and why.

As for Bernie Sanders, I am guess that given his respective field of expertise, he can teach
and manage very well for those who belong in that field. Why not let each field cover the
ground it serves best, and let all those who flock there invest their expertise in making that work?

If I were going to look into the worst case scenario of radioactive DU and effects of war
and sanction on the civilian population of Iraq and Afghanistan, I may not trust the contractors
who just want to be paid for what they've said they've already restored. If they did such a good
job that even the peace activists against the war propaganda are saying yes, listen to George McGovern
and the military consultants who are presenting the whole comprehensive picture of the real status
of restoration and what it will cost taxpayers, then I would listen to the source from the most CRITICAL
viewpoint and find where these AGREE before I try to gauge what is fact from media hype.

If I want to know what is the status of forced abortions in China,
I would look into the groups dealing with that as their fulltime focus.
Not even the feminists I know are working on that, I might have to go into the prolife camps to find out.

For the work in microlending and creating fair trade coops, I might look into the Greens who
are working on independent currency and labor coops.

Cecilie1200 if you expect ONE party to have all the answers to EVERYTHING
I think that seems "out of touch with reality"
Nobody I know is ominiscient, not even close, NOR an expert in all the areas govt covers!
If you look at our Universities, you won't find ONE professor who can teach all the different subjects and depts there are to cover! That's not realistic to expect that.

People naturally have different areas of expertise and focus, and aren't going to be fit to lead in other areas.

The last time I talked with a Green candidate for Mayor of Houston, he didn't think crime was that big of an issue. In HOUSTON are you KIDDING???? His priorities are focused on other issues. So THAT part of govt takes someone else who is focused on how to deal with law enforcement and security, criminal justice and deterrence, AND the social issues of preventing crime on the level of the socially oriented candidates who specialize in that part of the picture.

To someone else, the socialistic candidates seem "out of touch with reality"
when you are looking at Houston as one of the hubs for drugs and human trafficking,
gangs and illegal immigrants taking advantage of the political climate here.

If you can see that the perception is MUTUAL, that both approaches seem out of touch
to the other, maybe it's more clear how we actually COMPLEMENT each other, and we need both.

We need both Rule of Law AND we need cultural inclusion and representation of diverse minorities.
We need to send a strong message to enforce law and order
AND we need social programs that help educate and serve the populations to make sure
they MEET the standards of law we expect to enforce. We need BOTH.

So both major parties have been compared to having a Mommy Party (to handle personal issues
of running to Mommy for help that requires a caring and nurturing response) and a Daddy Party
(to call on when the tough authoritarian disciplinarian figure is needed to lay down the law).

Why not organize the different leadership styles under these two branches and
use them both in the areas they serve the most good? Why slam one person or another
for having a different purpose in society, and a style of management and focus that matches that?

I have compared this to an orchestra, where all the different instruments have different parts to play.
We aren't designed to play each other's music, that would be disastrous!

Instead of fighting to kick each other out of the band, why not help each person to play their part
correctly where it works with that section and harmonizes with all the rest.

We can't always see from our limited place, how all the different pieces fit together.
I think it will become more clear as we go along. This infighting is just a stage of discover and development we are going through as a culture and as a society.

We will eventually learn that all people, cultures and groups have strengths and weaknesses,
that both serve a purpose as we learn where these limits are,
and the point is to find out what good can be served and how can we help each other.

I'll stick with democrats. Republicans declared war on Obama and the American people back in 2009 by vowing to block anything Obama did after he took over the white house and faced the worst economic disaster since 1932. They're vicious scum. I mean the politicians, not the ones who vote for them. A couple links below.

The Conspiracy to Commit Legislative Constipation Vanity Fair

 

[2aguy]

I am actually asking this question specifically in reference to a quote that's been ALL THE RAGE amongst my more liberal acquaintances and just makes me shake my head.

"The Republican debates are over. Not one word about income and wealth inequality, climate change, Citizens United, or student debt. That's why the Republicans are so out of touch with the American people. What I heard was more tax breaks for the rich, more people losing health insurance, and more talk about war. That's not what we need."

Speaking of being out of touch. Exactly how clueless and narcissistic is ol' Liver Spots not to realize that a Republican debate is going to be about issues that matter to REPUBLICANS, which are not chosen and defined by liberals and their buzzwords and memes? Why in the Hell does he think there are two major and multiple minor political parties in the country in the first place? Did he actually think reality consisted of the liberal socialist echo chamber? He certainly appears to believe that "the American people" consists only of people who agree with him. Seems to be quite a rude shock for him to find out that there are large numbers of people in this country who don't give the fat, furry crack of a rat's ass about his talking points, and that there are politicians out there who agree with those people and relate to THEM.

So what's the source of Bernie Boy's tunnel vision and oblivion? Is he a nut, or just not real swift on the uptake?

Both.

 

[ScienceRocks]

It isn't fair what the rich man is doing to our society. It needs to stop!

 

[jasonnfree]

Bernie is so fucking right!! They get this wealth by under paying their workers and taking it all. These hogs need to be taxed and regulated!!!

I think Bernie may have these guys worried.

 

[ScienceRocks]

We must help Americans get into the middle class!!!!

 

[bripat9643]

I am actually asking this question specifically in reference to a quote that's been ALL THE RAGE amongst my more liberal acquaintances and just makes me shake my head.

"The Republican debates are over. Not one word about income and wealth inequality, climate change, Citizens United, or student debt. That's why the Republicans are so out of touch with the American people. What I heard was more tax breaks for the rich, more people losing health insurance, and more talk about war. That's not what we need."

Speaking of being out of touch. Exactly how clueless and narcissistic is ol' Liver Spots not to realize that a Republican debate is going to be about issues that matter to REPUBLICANS, which are not chosen and defined by liberals and their buzzwords and memes? Why in the Hell does he think there are two major and multiple minor political parties in the country in the first place? Did he actually think reality consisted of the liberal socialist echo chamber? He certainly appears to believe that "the American people" consists only of people who agree with him. Seems to be quite a rude shock for him to find out that there are large numbers of people in this country who don't give the fat, furry crack of a rat's ass about his talking points, and that there are politicians out there who agree with those people and relate to THEM.

So what's the source of Bernie Boy's tunnel vision and oblivion? Is he a nut, or just not real swift on the uptake?

Dear Cecilie1200

If you can imagine all the parties and leaders are like different professors in different depts,
then each one can fill chalkboards full of what they have studied to the letter,
but can't give an informed opinion of something that is "someone else's dept."

Why not focus on the subjects and political history that people DO excel in and know what they're talking about?

Why can't we assimilate all this wealth of knowledge and expertise together
like Volumes of an Encyclopedia set from A to Z.

Why do the volumes on environmental issues and ecosystems need to compete with those on war strategies
and cultural history of which nation hasn't resolved X Y Z with which neighbor and why.

As for Bernie Sanders, I am guess that given his respective field of expertise, he can teach
and manage very well for those who belong in that field. Why not let each field cover the
ground it serves best, and let all those who flock there invest their expertise in making that work?

If I were going to look into the worst case scenario of radioactive DU and effects of war
and sanction on the civilian population of Iraq and Afghanistan, I may not trust the contractors
who just want to be paid for what they've said they've already restored. If they did such a good
job that even the peace activists against the war propaganda are saying yes, listen to George McGovern
and the military consultants who are presenting the whole comprehensive picture of the real status
of restoration and what it will cost taxpayers, then I would listen to the source from the most CRITICAL
viewpoint and find where these AGREE before I try to gauge what is fact from media hype.

If I want to know what is the status of forced abortions in China,
I would look into the groups dealing with that as their fulltime focus.
Not even the feminists I know are working on that, I might have to go into the prolife camps to find out.

For the work in microlending and creating fair trade coops, I might look into the Greens who
are working on independent currency and labor coops.

Cecilie1200 if you expect ONE party to have all the answers to EVERYTHING
I think that seems "out of touch with reality"
Nobody I know is ominiscient, not even close, NOR an expert in all the areas govt covers!
If you look at our Universities, you won't find ONE professor who can teach all the different subjects and depts there are to cover! That's not realistic to expect that.

People naturally have different areas of expertise and focus, and aren't going to be fit to lead in other areas.

The last time I talked with a Green candidate for Mayor of Houston, he didn't think crime was that big of an issue. In HOUSTON are you KIDDING???? His priorities are focused on other issues. So THAT part of govt takes someone else who is focused on how to deal with law enforcement and security, criminal justice and deterrence, AND the social issues of preventing crime on the level of the socially oriented candidates who specialize in that part of the picture.

To someone else, the socialistic candidates seem "out of touch with reality"
when you are looking at Houston as one of the hubs for drugs and human trafficking,
gangs and illegal immigrants taking advantage of the political climate here.

If you can see that the perception is MUTUAL, that both approaches seem out of touch
to the other, maybe it's more clear how we actually COMPLEMENT each other, and we need both.

We need both Rule of Law AND we need cultural inclusion and representation of diverse minorities.
We need to send a strong message to enforce law and order
AND we need social programs that help educate and serve the populations to make sure
they MEET the standards of law we expect to enforce. We need BOTH.

So both major parties have been compared to having a Mommy Party (to handle personal issues
of running to Mommy for help that requires a caring and nurturing response) and a Daddy Party
(to call on when the tough authoritarian disciplinarian figure is needed to lay down the law).

Why not organize the different leadership styles under these two branches and
use them both in the areas they serve the most good? Why slam one person or another
for having a different purpose in society, and a style of management and focus that matches that?

I have compared this to an orchestra, where all the different instruments have different parts to play.
We aren't designed to play each other's music, that would be disastrous!

Instead of fighting to kick each other out of the band, why not help each person to play their part
correctly where it works with that section and harmonizes with all the rest.

We can't always see from our limited place, how all the different pieces fit together.
I think it will become more clear as we go along. This infighting is just a stage of discover and development we are going through as a culture and as a society.

We will eventually learn that all people, cultures and groups have strengths and weaknesses,
that both serve a purpose as we learn where these limits are,
and the point is to find out what good can be served and how can we help each other.

I'll stick with democrats. Republicans declared war on Obama and the American people back in 2009 by vowing to block anything Obama did after he took over the white house and faced the worst economic disaster since 1932. They're vicious scum. I mean the politicians, not the ones who vote for them. A couple links below.

The Conspiracy to Commit Legislative Constipation Vanity Fair

Obama declared war on the American people. That's what he meant by "fundamentally transform American. Anyone opposing him is defending America.

You vote for Obama because you're a sleazy ignominious Democrat.

 

[bripat9643]

We must help Americans get into the middle class!!!!

What would "bailing out families" consist of? Your hero Obama is the one who bailed out his Wall Street buddies.

 

[emilynghiem]

We must help Americans get into the middle class!!!!

What would "bailing out families" consist of? Your hero Obama is the one who bailed out his Wall Street buddies.

Ben Carson and Obama both believe in microlending to replace welfare handouts.
The microlending programs I know that are successful involve business training and
education so that the money is paid back and the new home/business owners
work their way up to higher loans as they develop larger business plans, using the capitalist system
of investing in business growth to serve a need in the market.

 

[nat4900]

I am actually asking this question specifically in reference to a quote that's been ALL THE RAGE amongst my more liberal acquaintances and just makes me shake my head.

"The Republican debates are over. Not one word about income and wealth inequality, climate change, Citizens United, or student debt. That's why the Republicans are so out of touch with the American people. What I heard was more tax breaks for the rich, more people losing health insurance, and more talk about war. That's not what we need."


Speaking of being out of touch. Exactly how clueless and narcissistic is ol' Liver Spots not to realize that a Republican debate is going to be about issues that matter to REPUBLICANS, which are not chosen and defined by liberals and their buzzwords and memes? Why in the Hell does he think there are two major and multiple minor political parties in the country in the first place? Did he actually think reality consisted of the liberal socialist echo chamber? He certainly appears to believe that "the American people" consists only of people who agree with him. Seems to be quite a rude shock for him to find out that there are large numbers of people in this country who don't give the fat, furry crack of a rat's ass about his talking points, and that there are politicians out there who agree with those people and relate to THEM.

So what's the source of Bernie Boy's tunnel vision and oblivion? Is he a nut, or just not real swift on the uptake?

So, nitwit......"income and wealth inequality, climate change, Citizens United, student debt, etc." are ONLY democrats' issues?
While jailing sanctuary cities' mayors and abolishing abortion clinics are the most pressing issues and values of conservatives.

 

[Obiwan]

One has to admit that SS and medicare and medicaid have done more to help people than anything else this country has EVER done. Go ahead and run on stopping them and see how many elections you win. They are the only chance older people have. This is an indisputable fact.

Actually, they have harmed almost everyone, and helped only a few ticks on the ass of society.

You're a fucking moron. How the fuck do you function in life and think SSi, medicare and helping the poor is somehow bad. People like you suck on the dick of the rich man that wants to use you as a fucking foot stool. Idiot.

Have you tried getting a job yet?

You know that federal law gives allowances for that shit???

 

[Obiwan]

I am actually asking this question specifically in reference to a quote that's been ALL THE RAGE amongst my more liberal acquaintances and just makes me shake my head.

"The Republican debates are over. Not one word about income and wealth inequality, climate change, Citizens United, or student debt. That's why the Republicans are so out of touch with the American people. What I heard was more tax breaks for the rich, more people losing health insurance, and more talk about war. That's not what we need."

Speaking of being out of touch. Exactly how clueless and narcissistic is ol' Liver Spots not to realize that a Republican debate is going to be about issues that matter to REPUBLICANS, which are not chosen and defined by liberals and their buzzwords and memes? Why in the Hell does he think there are two major and multiple minor political parties in the country in the first place? Did he actually think reality consisted of the liberal socialist echo chamber? He certainly appears to believe that "the American people" consists only of people who agree with him. Seems to be quite a rude shock for him to find out that there are large numbers of people in this country who don't give the fat, furry crack of a rat's ass about his talking points, and that there are politicians out there who agree with those people and relate to THEM.

So what's the source of Bernie Boy's tunnel vision and oblivion? Is he a nut, or just not real swift on the uptake?

Bernie's point was that the issues that he talks about matter more to american people then the joke of a debate. I mean, the debate was horrific. A reddit commentor sums it up:

• The preshow: if you drank for every mention of “Trump”, you’d be through at leasttwo beers by this point.
  
  
• Fiorina must have paid someone off at Fox News, because you’d think she reduced the entire B-team debate to tears. All I remember is her calling Clinton a liar several times.
  
  
• “Good evening, I’m Megyn Kelly, you may know me as that pretty blonde announcer in a post-apocalyptic movie you vaguely recall.”
  
  
• Trump gets overwhelming applause, which helps drown out the unexplainable and vaguely occult sound of children screaming in the distance.
  
  
• Hand Raise Q for everyone (but mainly directed at Trump): “Raise your hand if you won’t fall in line and run third party.” Trump raises his hand and tells the crowd to fuck themselves.
  
  
• RAND PAUL WITH THE FIRST ATTACK. “Maybe Trump loves the Clintons and wants to kiss them and make them president again.”
  
  
• Sounding like Obama at a Klan meeting here. BOOOO
  
  
• Ben Carson gets the first non-Trump, thanks-for-being-a-minority-and-on-stage question.
  
  
• Rubio is looking like a handsome, young, illegitimate child of JFK tonight. “I grew up in a van down by the river and had student loans.”
  
  
• Jeb! gets grilled on having the last name Bush. “True Hearts, Clear Eyes, Can’t Lose” or whateverthechrist the saying goes. He then immediately pivots to some campaign lines about vetoing and other covers for how well he did as a governor during a bubble who got out right before it burst.
  
  
• Trump just slammed Rosie O’Donnell and got like 5 more points in the polls, Trump doesn’t give a fuck
  
  
• Trump replies to the charges of being a blatant misogynist: “The nation should be less politically correct. America needs my swinging balls to be better again.”
  
  
• Ted Cruz gets called out for being a demagogue, and the audience cheers because they crave electrolytes and aren’t fags.
  
  
• Chris Christie, rotund politician famous for his blood feud with bridges, gets called out for being in charge of New Jersey. He states a bunch of figures about how much he’s vetoed and the taxes he’s cut, and comes in under the dinger. Gets mild applause.
  
  
• Q to Walker: “Would you let a mother die rather than get an abortion?” Walker pivots the question to attack Clinton and Planned Parenthood. If he walked back the whole “let women die” thing, I didn’t hear it.
  
  
• Huckabee: “I will twist the Constitution to undo Roe v Wade, and use the 5th and 14th Amendments to defy the Supreme Court.” Swear to Christ, I didn’t make any of that up.
  
  
• Rand Paul: ISIS will go away if we stop supporting the Iraqi government with hardware, that way ISIS can’t get their hands on it and Iraq won’t collapse at all.
  
  
• Kasich defiantly and proudly proclaims that he’s actually used government money to improve the health of the poorest citizens of his state. The hometown audience applauds, we’ll see how the national polls react.
  
  
• Jeb! is in favor of a pathway to immigration but still emphasizes that he’ll raid Latino enclaves for deportation.
  
  
• Trump gets attacked about his Mexicans-are-rapists statements. “If it weren’t for me we wouldn’t be talking about this, plus reporters got it wrong and are out to get me because I’m the smartest and richest person ever.” Gets grilled on the evidence for his statements. Trumps response: “I talked to some Border Patrol dudes, also all politicians are idiots and Mexicans are brilliant”
  
  
• Scott Walker Q: why did you change your opinion on a pathway to citizenship: “Blah, blah blah, I decided to run for president and the South don’t take kindly to Mexicans, so what are you going to do?”
  
  
• Rubio: I may be the son of an immigrant but Obama is in favor of “fundamentally changing the country” which is Kenyan for “makin’ Ohio look like Tijuana’s Donkey Show District”
  
  
• Chris Christie: “Hey remember 9/11? I do. I was around then too.”
  
  
• Rand Paul: “FOUNDING FATHERS!”
  
  
• Chris Christie: “Fuck the 4th Amendment, the NSA needs to read more people’s emails. They aren’t psychic you know, they need omniscience access to all the net”
  
  
• CHRISTIE JUST RESPONDED TO A JAB ABOUT HUGGING OBAMA BY TALKING ABOUT HUGGING 9/11 VICTIMS
  
  
• “How can you defeat ISIS in 90 days?” asked the idiot on facebook. Cruz: “We need to blame Islam.”
  
  
• Jeb! walks back his spasms about Iraq. He blames Obama for ISIS for not keeping troops in Iraq until the fucking Judgment Day.
  
  
• Dr. Ben Carson is a neurosurgeon, and he wants you to know that we aren’t killing enough people because of political correctness. And if we just let the military brass go apeshit on the region, the whole place will be a nice peaceful parking lot by Christmas.
  
  
• Trump talks up single payer overseas, says it won’t work here because of insurance companies and politicians. Rand Paul calls him out, Trump says “Fuck you, you hard-of-hearing fuck, you aren’t doing well tonight.” (The last half of that quote is true.)
  
  
• Trump talks about how he spent gobs of money in donations to get Hillary to his wedding.
  
  
• Huckabee: mandates for things like “Air quality” and “Water quality” and “Limiting lead in our children’s food” are a federal overstep
  
  
• Ben Carson also in favor of a flat tax. Good luck middle class if a Republican wins the election!
  
  
• Ben Carson hints that Clinton won’t be the Democratic candidate (what?) and says she would be a “useful idiot”. He then goes on to say that Clinton will destroy our military and leave us at the mercy of Canada or whatever if we only spend as much as all the military budgets of the world combined.
  
  
• Obama’s welfare recipient numbers keep getting thrown around with the words “recession” or “George W. Bush” brought up once.
  
  
• Scott Walker gets called out for his shitty economic numbers. “I’m popular and I am high, let’s not talk ‘numbers’ and ‘facts’ here.”
  
  
• Christie with more percentages and figures. But let’s not emphasize how “We” are all leading longer lives. I don’t see the Governor withdrawing from Social Security into his 80s for some rotund reason.
  
  
• Huckabee attacks Social Security because he thinks it’s better for everyone to have a bit more money in their pockets if it means having to step over the corpses of our impoverished elderly on the way to work every morning.
  
  
• Trump Q about his businesses’ bankruptcy: “I’ve taken advantage of the laws of this country; I’m not going to name names to embarrass them.” Moderator pushes a specific example, Trump declares he alone can solve the problem of Atlantic City.
  
  
• Cruz declares that Dodd Frank is attacking small businesses, high on ether, I assume
  
  
• Scott Walker digs up the memories of a hostage situation older than half the country, invokes the “Obama-Clinton” meme again.
  
  
• Rape pregnancy question for Cruz: he doubles down on the “No exception for rape and incest” thing.
  
  
• Trump time, yehaw! “When did you become a Republican?” Trump invokes Reagan’s name, drink. Trump talks up a nearly-aborted kid he knew who is now a superstar or something, pivots to attack Jeb!, runs out of time.
  
  
• Jeb! is baited to attack Trump, pivots to attack Clinton and talk up his successes during an economic bubble (please ignore what happened after it burst).
  
  
• Trump gets a rebuttal and says he shouldn’t be polite when ISIS is cutting off heads. This echoes FDR’s defense of calling his opponents “douchebags” in 1938 because Hitler was gassing Jews.
  
  
• The candidates all love gays but don’t want them to get married because Jesus.
  
  
• Rand Paul ducks out of the question and says that marriages shouldn’t be a legal matter. Then talks about “resisting” the government(?)
  
  
• Ben Carson says that since we don’t have as many dinghies as we did in 1917, the Navy is weak. Forget that we have more aircraft carriers than the rest of the world combined, we need more dinghies.
  
  
• Clinton emails, lol.
  
  
• Huckabee is against trans people, gasp.
  
  
• Rand Paul is against foreign aid, including Israel. Good for him for having the balls not to make that exception.
  
  
• Christie response: We need to spend even more on our military, more dinghies, more airplanes of any kind (drones don’t count), fund Israel because Obama was mean to them.

Where in the world you get that list?

A reddit users commentary on the debate, I think it's hilarious.

It is a satire thread waiting to happen.

Badlands

 

[Obiwan]

We must help Americans get into the middle class!!!!

What would "bailing out families" consist of? Your hero Obama is the one who bailed out his Wall Street buddies.

Ben Carson and Obama both believe in microlending to replace welfare handouts.
The microlending programs I know that are successful involve business training and
education so that the money is paid back and the new home/business owners
work their way up to higher loans as they develop larger business plans, using the capitalist system
of investing in business growth to serve a need in the market.

Now that I can believe in. Business start-ups.

 

[OKTexas]

I am actually asking this question specifically in reference to a quote that's been ALL THE RAGE amongst my more liberal acquaintances and just makes me shake my head.

"The Republican debates are over. Not one word about income and wealth inequality, climate change, Citizens United, or student debt. That's why the Republicans are so out of touch with the American people. What I heard was more tax breaks for the rich, more people losing health insurance, and more talk about war. That's not what we need."

Speaking of being out of touch. Exactly how clueless and narcissistic is ol' Liver Spots not to realize that a Republican debate is going to be about issues that matter to REPUBLICANS, which are not chosen and defined by liberals and their buzzwords and memes? Why in the Hell does he think there are two major and multiple minor political parties in the country in the first place? Did he actually think reality consisted of the liberal socialist echo chamber? He certainly appears to believe that "the American people" consists only of people who agree with him. Seems to be quite a rude shock for him to find out that there are large numbers of people in this country who don't give the fat, furry crack of a rat's ass about his talking points, and that there are politicians out there who agree with those people and relate to THEM.

So what's the source of Bernie Boy's tunnel vision and oblivion? Is he a nut, or just not real swift on the uptake?

Well, the short answer is................YES!

 

[Political Junky]

Bernie is someone who actually cares for working people, who isn't bought off, who has stood firm for decades without flip flopping, he may not be an actual socialist, but he is a social democrat like those in europe, and I applaud him. He's not retarded or insane, he's someone who appeals to working people, veterans..

And is unelectable by the general population . Good luck.

Only because some are too ignorant to understand him. He draws larger crowds than anyone else so some do understand him.

 

[Obiwan]

Bernie is someone who actually cares for working people, who isn't bought off, who has stood firm for decades without flip flopping, he may not be an actual socialist, but he is a social democrat like those in europe, and I applaud him. He's not retarded or insane, he's someone who appeals to working people, veterans..

And is unelectable by the general population . Good luck.

Only because some are too ignorant to understand him. He draws larger crowds than anyone else so some do understand him.

Reference my above post on microlending.... It may be capitalistic, but it would work better than the Democrats' welfare system.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I surely love my pension, SS, and medicare which I use whenever possible as I paid into them so I am entitled to them. That kind of thinking bothers you I know but since I sold my business and am collecting SS I dont have to belong anymore to the filthy ratrace this nation now espouses.

Your words sound like English, but your meaning bears no resemblance to anything being said, so they might as well not be.

FYI, if you really did own a business and are now collecting Social Security, that means you were an incredible failure as a businessman. Congratulations, dumbass.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Most americans will struggle to barely stay in the middle class. Thats the way it is and thinking the "american dream" is something great is hilarious

Ah, there's that uplifting, inspiring rhetoric again. Have you ever considered a second career as a motivational speaker?

 

[Cecilie1200]

A gentle reminder:

"Insane" and "Retartded" are not mutually exclusive.

A very good point. Did you want to register a vote for "all of the above"?