Is the GOP intentionally preventing a recovery?

[bripat9643]

As we approach 60 pages, many filled with nonsense and efforts to deflect from the central question by kaz, bripat, daveman and the ubiquitous stupidty of crusaderfrank, no one on the right has offered any evidence of any action taken or speech given by the GOP leadership, or a Republican candidate for president, offering a solution to our on-going economic problems.

It's been offered a thousand times. Here, I'll repeat it for you one more time: cut taxes, cut spending, cut regulation.

I doubt it will penetrate your skull no matter how many times it's repeated.

 

[Chris]

As we approach 60 pages, many filled with nonsense and efforts to deflect from the central question by kaz, bripat, daveman and the ubiquitous stupidty of crusaderfrank, no one on the right has offered any evidence of any action taken or speech given by the GOP leadership, or a Republican candidate for president, offering a solution to our on-going economic problems.

It's been offered a thousand times. Here, I'll repeat it for you one more time: cut taxes, cut spending, cut regulation.

I doubt it will penetrate your skull no matter how many times it's repeated.

Cut taxes?

Are you nuts? We have a trillion dollar deficit!

We have to cut spending and raise taxes. It's simple mathematics.

Cut regulation? How did that work out with Wall Street?

Oh, yea, IT DESTROYED THE ECONOMY!

 

[Harry Dresden]

No, the GOP, by moving to the left, ruined the GOP.

We have one Democratic Party. We don't need two.

the Left?....i dont know Dave.....i think they have moved to far Right.....

No, they've abandoned their conservative principles in favor of paying back special interest groups -- what the Democrats are all about.

thats what most Politicians are all about on both sides,paying back the Special Interest Groups......i see the Conservative Religious types having a lot of input about the GOP policies,to much as far as i am concerned.......to me thats going Right not Left.....where are the Moderate and Liberal Conservatives at?......on the other side....where are the Moderate and Conservative Democrats at?.....why are they allowing Rdean types to have so much input into their policies?.........

 

[kaz]

As we approach 60 pages, many filled with nonsense and efforts to deflect from the central question by kaz, bripat, daveman and the ubiquitous stupidty of crusaderfrank, no one on the right has offered any evidence of any action taken or speech given by the GOP leadership, or a Republican candidate for president, offering a solution to our on-going economic problems.

It's been offered a thousand times. Here, I'll repeat it for you one more time: cut taxes, cut spending, cut regulation.

I doubt it will penetrate your skull no matter how many times it's repeated.

Cut taxes?

Are you nuts? We have a trillion dollar deficit!

We have to cut spending and raise taxes. It's simple mathematics.

Cut regulation? How did that work out with Wall Street?

Oh, yea, IT DESTROYED THE ECONOMY!

Raise taxes in a recession? You are nuts

 

[bripat9643]

It's been offered a thousand times. Here, I'll repeat it for you one more time: cut taxes, cut spending, cut regulation.

I doubt it will penetrate your skull no matter how many times it's repeated.

Cut taxes?

Are you nuts? We have a trillion dollar deficit!

We have to cut spending and raise taxes. It's simple mathematics.

Cut regulation? How did that work out with Wall Street?

Oh, yea, IT DESTROYED THE ECONOMY!

Spending needs to be but by 80%. Taxes only need to be cut by 60%.

 

[Trajan]

As we approach 60 pages, many filled with nonsense and efforts to deflect from the central question by kaz, bripat, daveman and the ubiquitous stupidty of crusaderfrank, no one on the right has offered any evidence of any action taken or speech given by the GOP leadership, or a Republican candidate for president, offering a solution to our on-going economic problems.

thats because you suffer a malady that prevents you from comprehending English.

Every effort at solving the impasse between the parties has been initiated by President Obama, every compromise has been achieved only when the President has caved to non negotiable demands of the radical right.

The question, Is the GOP intentionally preventing a recovery has been asked and answered. There is ample evidence of obstructionism, goal post moving and blind adherance to the first commandment of the GOP under the leadership of Big Brother, aka Grover Norquist; "thou shall not question the party line". Independent thinking, critical thinking and pragmatic ideas are all Verboten.

YOU have proved zero.....

so if you've decided why the hell ask us? then drop some post like this saying hey this is this and thats that......


get your banjo. Telegraph ave.

 

[Harry Dresden]

No, they've abandoned their conservative principles in favor of paying back special interest groups -- what the Democrats are all about.

Plundering the productive and doling out the swag to their favored constituent groups is the fundamental principle of the Democrat party.

its that way with the Republican Party too.....dole out the most to the group who gave the most....

 

[bripat9643]

Plundering the productive and doling out the swag to their favored constituent groups is the fundamental principle of the Democrat party.

its that way with the Republican Party too.....dole out the most to the group who gave the most....

The main constituency of the Republican party is productive members of society who are paying the freight for all the tics in the Democrat party. Why would they want the government to shake them down just so they could get a small percentage back?

 

[Harry Dresden]

We have to cut spending and raise taxes. It's simple mathematics.

still havent answered me Chris......WHY haven't the Democrats at LEAST CUT FUCKING SPENDING?............

 

[Too Tall]

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


We know because Raygun give them to him...but all the Bushie allusions to mushroom clouds was horse shytte. France was right.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of an illicit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

What were you saying about Bush and 'mushroom clouds?'

 

[appleannie1]

Some people are saying no, see the 'argument' against, here:



The evidence suggests Schumer's on to something. The House of Representatives has offered no debate on the issue of unemployment and has passed only 18 bills since taking control in January. 15 of those bills were passed to name federal buildings after someone. This do-nothing congress sees no urgency as millions of Americans are out of work, work one or two or three part time jobs simply to pay rent or the morgage on a home underwater.

The GOP leadership in both houses of congress has opposed all efforts by the president, and even turned down an offer by President Obama to reduce the payroll tax for businees. It seems ideology is only an excuse, the real reason is their lust for power.

Yes because they could care less about the people of this country. They do what their corporate bosses tell them to. It is all about power and greed for the few.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Are you really this stupid?

It was the derivative bubble that brought down our economy.

Our economy was brought down when homeowners started defaulting on their mortgages.
Derivatives had nothing to do with it.
It's okay for you to admit you don't understand derivatives. Not many people do.

Wow - you are an idiot.

Just because I understand derivatives and they make you wet your pants......? LOL!

 

[daveman]

As we approach 60 pages, many filled with nonsense and efforts to deflect from the central question by kaz, bripat, daveman and the ubiquitous stupidty of crusaderfrank, no one on the right has offered any evidence of any action taken or speech given by the GOP leadership, or a Republican candidate for president, offering a solution to our on-going economic problems.

Every effort at solving the impasse between the parties has been initiated by President Obama, every compromise has been achieved only when the President has caved to non negotiable demands of the radical right.

The question, Is the GOP intentionally preventing a recovery has been asked and answered. There is ample evidence of obstructionism, goal post moving and blind adherance to the first commandment of the GOP under the leadership of Big Brother, aka Grover Norquist; "thou shall not question the party line". Independent thinking, critical thinking and pragmatic ideas are all Verboten.

TRANSLATION:

"It's true because we say it's true! Nanny nanny boo boo!"

 

[daveman]

No, they've abandoned their conservative principles in favor of paying back special interest groups -- what the Democrats are all about.

Plundering the productive and doling out the swag to their favored constituent groups is the fundamental principle of the Democrat party.

Indeed. Success must be punished.

 

[daveman]

the Left?....i dont know Dave.....i think they have moved to far Right.....

No, they've abandoned their conservative principles in favor of paying back special interest groups -- what the Democrats are all about.

thats what most Politicians are all about on both sides,paying back the Special Interest Groups......i see the Conservative Religious types having a lot of input about the GOP policies,to much as far as i am concerned.......to me thats going Right not Left.....where are the Moderate and Liberal Conservatives at?......on the other side....where are the Moderate and Conservative Democrats at?.....why are they allowing Rdean types to have so much input into their policies?.........

The TEA Party has had an influence on the GOP, reminding them of what they're supposed to be about. Whether that lesson sticks is a different matter.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

As we approach 60 pages, many filled with nonsense and efforts to deflect from the central question by kaz, bripat, daveman and the ubiquitous stupidty of crusaderfrank, no one on the right has offered any evidence of any action taken or speech given by the GOP leadership, or a Republican candidate for president, offering a solution to our on-going economic problems.

It's been offered a thousand times. Here, I'll repeat it for you one more time: cut taxes, cut spending, cut regulation.

I doubt it will penetrate your skull no matter how many times it's repeated.

Cut taxes?

Are you nuts? We have a trillion dollar deficit!

We have to cut spending and raise taxes. It's simple mathematics.

Cut regulation? How did that work out with Wall Street?

Oh, yea, IT DESTROYED THE ECONOMY!

Which cuts in regulation do you feel destroyed the economy?
Spell it out.

 

[Too Tall]

But Bachmann said that CO2 is harmless, so it must be true.

Every doctor on the face of the Earth says CO2 is harmless in the quantities present in the atmosphere.

CO2 is heavier than air and is a serious threat to humans if and when it is concentrated in a low area. Here is an interesting article on natural CO2 emissions.
Carbon Dioxide and Helium Discharge from Mammoth Mountain, Long Valley caldera, California

What puzzles me is how CO2 causes global warming if it is heavier than air and comes from a car tailpipe or a high flying jet.

 

[Susan45]

But Bachmann said that CO2 is harmless, so it must be true.

Every doctor on the face of the Earth says CO2 is harmless in the quantities present in the atmosphere.

I don't think I'm ever going to get over how the RW just throws out a statement like this and nobody challenges it. It's absurd to even consider that.

This is from the AMA website.

AMA meeting: Global warming has health toll, delegates warn

Orlando, Fla. -- Most climate scientists say the Earth is getting hotter and that human activity is speeding up the process. At its Interim Meeting in November, the AMA House of Delegates agreed with the scientific consensus.

The house endorsed the findings of the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Delegates also warned that climate change could have dramatic public health consequences, causing heat waves, drought and flooding, cutting potable water supplies, displacing populations and spreading infectious diseases.

Policymakers should "work to reduce human contributions" to global warming, says the AMA's new policy, which is based on a report from the Association's Council on Science and Public Health.

amednews: AMA meeting: Global warming has health toll, delegates warn :: Dec. 1, 2008 ... American Medical News

Warming Threatens Public Health, Groups Warn

Medical and public health groups are banding together to explain how global warming has taken a toll on human health and will continue to cause food-borne illnesses, respiratory problems, and deaths unless policy changes are enacted.

In a Thursday conference call with reporters, the heads of the American Medical Association (AMA) and the American Public Health Association (APHA) joined with a pediatrician and a scientist to lay out what they say is a major public health issue: climate change caused by global warming.

The "evidence has only grown stronger" that climate change is responsible for an increasing number of health ills, including asthma, diarrheal disease, and even deaths from extreme weather such as heat waves, said Georges Benjamin, MD, executive director of the APHA.

Medical News: Warming Threatens Public Health, Groups Warn - in Public Health & Policy, Environmental Health from MedPage Today

 

[Susan45]

But Bachmann said that CO2 is harmless, so it must be true.

Every doctor on the face of the Earth says CO2 is harmless in the quantities present in the atmosphere.

CO2 is heavier than air and is a serious threat to humans if and when it is concentrated in a low area. Here is an interesting article on natural CO2 emissions.
Carbon Dioxide and Helium Discharge from Mammoth Mountain, Long Valley caldera, California

What puzzles me is how CO2 causes global warming if it is heavier than air and comes from a car tailpipe or a high flying jet.

Just in case you really are interested here is a very good link.

Global Warming and Climate Change skepticism examined

I encourage everyone to find out for themselves how the science on this works. When I was trying to educate myself I found this website offered some very good info. It is non-political.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Every doctor on the face of the Earth says CO2 is harmless in the quantities present in the atmosphere.

CO2 is heavier than air and is a serious threat to humans if and when it is concentrated in a low area. Here is an interesting article on natural CO2 emissions.
Carbon Dioxide and Helium Discharge from Mammoth Mountain, Long Valley caldera, California

What puzzles me is how CO2 causes global warming if it is heavier than air and comes from a car tailpipe or a high flying jet.

Just in case you really are interested here is a very good link.

Global Warming and Climate Change skepticism examined

I encourage everyone to find out for themselves how the science on this works. When I was trying to educate myself I found this website offered some very good info. It is non-political.

The loud and proud conservative element on this message board, four of whom I singled out recently, aren't interested in facts, they actually believe the platitudes they post and believe anyone who disagrees or questions what they hold as immutable truths is a "commie" or left wing "libtard"

The greater threat to America today is not from foreign shores, it hides in the soul of bigots and racists - of all colors and creeds - and extremists left and right who reject the basic, fundamental truth which we celebrate today:

" We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states."