Is Tom Brady the Greatest Ever?

[Alex.]

Poor little Papa cannot have a discussion with out making it personal.

Poor whittle alex, keep crying. You made it personal with Chris, troll boy take your BS and shove it.

I made it personal? how?

I thought your statement was directed at me and my "relationship" with LA RAM FAN.


You have a lot going on in your head and non of it is good.

Please stick to the OP: Is Tom Brady the Greatest Ever?

The answer is no because he lied, cheated, destroyed evidence and was suspended.

That is your opinion, you have stated it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and still nobody cares, they have other reasons to find he is the greatest, yet you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll.

^^^^

Epic meltdown.

Don't meltdown trollboy, its ok, this is all entertainment for me. I am not the one that got back on the board dishonestly, you did.

I am having a ball with you. Do you suggest that Brady's cheating, lying, destruction of evidence and suspension should be separate and apart from his accomplishments?

 

[Alex.]

You can't reason with insanity.

I don't like to waste my time with psychotic morons.

I don't like to waste my time with psychotic morons.

Alex is LARamsfan's bitch. Whatever ramsfans asks, little alex kisses ramfans ass.

Poopergeorgio: "Alex is LARamsfan's bitch. Whatever ramsfans asks, little alex kisses ramfans ass."
^^^^



Rarely have I ever seen anyone meltdown in such a big way as you have .

To think, I was away om vacation and just logged in this morning,

I did not have to do anything except show up.

I'm not melting down at all, so again you are being dishonest. Thank you for proving over and over and over again that you are dishonest.

You weren't on vacation, you got pissed because you got your ass handed to you after the Super Bowl, There is no reason to believe you ever tell the truth after the shit you pulled on this board. Nice try troll boy.

No reason!

True enough, he has nothing but the troll. Coyote kicked his ass pretty hard in another thread.

Where was that?

You are really stretching it.

Can't stand on your own two feet?

 

[ChrisL]

 

[Papageorgio]

Poor whittle alex, keep crying. You made it personal with Chris, troll boy take your BS and shove it.

I made it personal? how?

I thought your statement was directed at me and my "relationship" with LA RAM FAN.


You have a lot going on in your head and non of it is good.

Please stick to the OP: Is Tom Brady the Greatest Ever?

The answer is no because he lied, cheated, destroyed evidence and was suspended.

That is your opinion, you have stated it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and still nobody cares, they have other reasons to find he is the greatest, yet you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll.

^^^^

Epic meltdown.

Don't meltdown trollboy, its ok, this is all entertainment for me. I am not the one that got back on the board dishonestly, you did.

I am having a ball with you. Do you suggest that Brady's cheating, lying, destruction of evidence and suspension should be separate and apart from his accomplishments?

You are bringing me all sorts of laughs. His accomplishments are one issue and his cover up are another. The league had never fined more than $25000 for tampering with equipment and has more often than not ignored the tampering. There was visual proof of tampering going on earlier in the season with other teams and the league ignored it. So I don't see it as a big deal, the league has only treated it as a big deal in one occasion and has not before or since. The idea that it gave the Pats a big advantage is ridiculous. Technically any pass interference, holding, roughing the passer, face mask and on and on is cheating.

 

[Papageorgio]

You can't reason with insanity.

Alex is LARamsfan's bitch. Whatever ramsfans asks, little alex kisses ramfans ass.

Poopergeorgio: "Alex is LARamsfan's bitch. Whatever ramsfans asks, little alex kisses ramfans ass."
^^^^



Rarely have I ever seen anyone meltdown in such a big way as you have .

To think, I was away om vacation and just logged in this morning,

I did not have to do anything except show up.

I'm not melting down at all, so again you are being dishonest. Thank you for proving over and over and over again that you are dishonest.

You weren't on vacation, you got pissed because you got your ass handed to you after the Super Bowl, There is no reason to believe you ever tell the truth after the shit you pulled on this board. Nice try troll boy.

No reason!

True enough, he has nothing but the troll. Coyote kicked his ass pretty hard in another thread.

Where was that?

You are really stretching it.

Can't stand on your own two feet?

LOL!!!! More butt hurt there alex? LOL!!!!! Like I have said, your ass has been kicked over and over and over again, not my fault you aren't bright enough to realize it.

 

[sealybobo]

It has nothing to do with Brady, it is a sockpuppet that loves to troll. He lies and makes accusations he can't back up and then runs away. He keeps getting his ass handed to him and the pathetic moron just keeps trolling.

Awwwww the butthurt is coming out of every pore

Here this will help you

Games are rigged remember? No one can't cheat when the games are rigged, troll boy.

By definition, that is cheating, however that is not my position.

You agreed with your buddy ramsfan the games are rigged, are you saying they are not? Are you saying larams is lying?

This is what I am saying:

As far as rigged? Not outside of any and all possibilities. NFL is oligopolistic nothing happens without the owners knowing, they are there to make money. They have been losing viewership etc, what better way to spark interest than to have some drama and a hero. This whole Brady thing is much like a Hollywood script. Have to have a hero and a villain to root for to get some interest going.

Nonsense. If you want me to care about the Atlanta Falcons then have them win a Superbowl. New England winning another championship does nothing for ratings.

Do you know why we all watch Seattle games? Because they won a superbowl. Do you know how many Cam Newton games I watched this year? None. Had Carolina won last year I'd be a little more interested in that franchise.

If it were fake Detroit would have 1 Superbowl.

On second thought, we still fill out stadiums even when our team sucks so no need to give us a Superbowl when we watch losers. Maybe if viewship goes down they'll eventually throw us a bone.

But why you think New England being this good for this long is good for the league? It's not.

Now Joe Montana? That sounds like they rigged it for the ratings. And John Elway for sure! Yea, he rode out on a white horse after winning two championships. Sure he did.

And why didn't they give Marino one? If you are going to give anyone one you'd give him one.

And they would have given the Buffalo Bills one with Jim Kelly. No way they rigged it so they would lose 4 in a row. No way.

 

[sealybobo]

Poor whittle alex, keep crying. You made it personal with Chris, troll boy take your BS and shove it.

I made it personal? how?

I thought your statement was directed at me and my "relationship" with LA RAM FAN.


You have a lot going on in your head and non of it is good.

Please stick to the OP: Is Tom Brady the Greatest Ever?

The answer is no because he lied, cheated, destroyed evidence and was suspended.

That is your opinion, you have stated it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and still nobody cares, they have other reasons to find he is the greatest, yet you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll.

^^^^

Epic meltdown.

Don't meltdown trollboy, its ok, this is all entertainment for me. I am not the one that got back on the board dishonestly, you did.

I am having a ball with you. Do you suggest that Brady's cheating, lying, destruction of evidence and suspension should be separate and apart from his accomplishments?

Mountain meet mole hill.

 

[Alex.]

Awwwww the butthurt is coming out of every pore

Here this will help you

Games are rigged remember? No one can't cheat when the games are rigged, troll boy.

By definition, that is cheating, however that is not my position.

You agreed with your buddy ramsfan the games are rigged, are you saying they are not? Are you saying larams is lying?

This is what I am saying:

As far as rigged? Not outside of any and all possibilities. NFL is oligopolistic nothing happens without the owners knowing, they are there to make money. They have been losing viewership etc, what better way to spark interest than to have some drama and a hero. This whole Brady thing is much like a Hollywood script. Have to have a hero and a villain to root for to get some interest going.

Nonsense. If you want me to care about the Atlanta Falcons then have them win a Superbowl. New England winning another championship does nothing for ratings.

Do you know why we all watch Seattle games? Because they won a superbowl. Do you know how many Cam Newton games I watched this year? None. Had Carolina won last year I'd be a little more interested in that franchise.

If it were fake Detroit would have 1 Superbowl.

On second thought, we still fill out stadiums even when our team sucks so no need to give us a Superbowl when we watch losers. Maybe if viewship goes down they'll eventually throw us a bone.

But why you think New England being this good for this long is good for the league? It's not.

Now Joe Montana? That sounds like they rigged it for the ratings. And John Elway for sure! Yea, he rode out on a white horse after winning two championships. Sure he did.

And why didn't they give Marino one? If you are going to give anyone one you'd give him one.

And they would have given the Buffalo Bills one with Jim Kelly. No way they rigged it so they would lose 4 in a row. No way.

What universe are you from?

 

[Alex.]

I made it personal? how?

I thought your statement was directed at me and my "relationship" with LA RAM FAN.


You have a lot going on in your head and non of it is good.

Please stick to the OP: Is Tom Brady the Greatest Ever?

The answer is no because he lied, cheated, destroyed evidence and was suspended.

That is your opinion, you have stated it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and still nobody cares, they have other reasons to find he is the greatest, yet you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll.

^^^^

Epic meltdown.

Don't meltdown trollboy, its ok, this is all entertainment for me. I am not the one that got back on the board dishonestly, you did.

I am having a ball with you. Do you suggest that Brady's cheating, lying, destruction of evidence and suspension should be separate and apart from his accomplishments?

You are bringing me all sorts of laughs. His accomplishments are one issue and his cover up are another. The league had never fined more than $25000 for tampering with equipment and has more often than not ignored the tampering. There was visual proof of tampering going on earlier in the season with other teams and the league ignored it. So I don't see it as a big deal, the league has only treated it as a big deal in one occasion and has not before or since. The idea that it gave the Pats a big advantage is ridiculous. Technically any pass interference, holding, roughing the passer, face mask and on and on is cheating.

So you are rationalizing the cheating, lying, destruction of evidence that lead to his suspension. He agreed with that but you will not.

 

[sealybobo]

Games are rigged remember? No one can't cheat when the games are rigged, troll boy.

By definition, that is cheating, however that is not my position.

You agreed with your buddy ramsfan the games are rigged, are you saying they are not? Are you saying larams is lying?

This is what I am saying:

As far as rigged? Not outside of any and all possibilities. NFL is oligopolistic nothing happens without the owners knowing, they are there to make money. They have been losing viewership etc, what better way to spark interest than to have some drama and a hero. This whole Brady thing is much like a Hollywood script. Have to have a hero and a villain to root for to get some interest going.

Nonsense. If you want me to care about the Atlanta Falcons then have them win a Superbowl. New England winning another championship does nothing for ratings.

Do you know why we all watch Seattle games? Because they won a superbowl. Do you know how many Cam Newton games I watched this year? None. Had Carolina won last year I'd be a little more interested in that franchise.

If it were fake Detroit would have 1 Superbowl.

On second thought, we still fill out stadiums even when our team sucks so no need to give us a Superbowl when we watch losers. Maybe if viewship goes down they'll eventually throw us a bone.

But why you think New England being this good for this long is good for the league? It's not.

Now Joe Montana? That sounds like they rigged it for the ratings. And John Elway for sure! Yea, he rode out on a white horse after winning two championships. Sure he did.

And why didn't they give Marino one? If you are going to give anyone one you'd give him one.

And they would have given the Buffalo Bills one with Jim Kelly. No way they rigged it so they would lose 4 in a row. No way.

What universe are you from?

Yea because everyone loved watching the Bills lose 4 superbowls in a row.

And so you agree there are other universes outside of ours? Excellent.

 

[sealybobo]

That is your opinion, you have stated it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and still nobody cares, they have other reasons to find he is the greatest, yet you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll you troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll and troll.

^^^^

Epic meltdown.

Don't meltdown trollboy, its ok, this is all entertainment for me. I am not the one that got back on the board dishonestly, you did.

I am having a ball with you. Do you suggest that Brady's cheating, lying, destruction of evidence and suspension should be separate and apart from his accomplishments?

You are bringing me all sorts of laughs. His accomplishments are one issue and his cover up are another. The league had never fined more than $25000 for tampering with equipment and has more often than not ignored the tampering. There was visual proof of tampering going on earlier in the season with other teams and the league ignored it. So I don't see it as a big deal, the league has only treated it as a big deal in one occasion and has not before or since. The idea that it gave the Pats a big advantage is ridiculous. Technically any pass interference, holding, roughing the passer, face mask and on and on is cheating.

So you are rationalizing the cheating, lying, destruction of evidence that lead to his suspension. He agreed with that but you will not.

I'm cool with it. Same way most of us gave Clinton a pass for lying about a bj. Who wouldn't?

 

[Alex.]

By definition, that is cheating, however that is not my position.

You agreed with your buddy ramsfan the games are rigged, are you saying they are not? Are you saying larams is lying?

This is what I am saying:

As far as rigged? Not outside of any and all possibilities. NFL is oligopolistic nothing happens without the owners knowing, they are there to make money. They have been losing viewership etc, what better way to spark interest than to have some drama and a hero. This whole Brady thing is much like a Hollywood script. Have to have a hero and a villain to root for to get some interest going.

Nonsense. If you want me to care about the Atlanta Falcons then have them win a Superbowl. New England winning another championship does nothing for ratings.

Do you know why we all watch Seattle games? Because they won a superbowl. Do you know how many Cam Newton games I watched this year? None. Had Carolina won last year I'd be a little more interested in that franchise.

If it were fake Detroit would have 1 Superbowl.

On second thought, we still fill out stadiums even when our team sucks so no need to give us a Superbowl when we watch losers. Maybe if viewship goes down they'll eventually throw us a bone.

But why you think New England being this good for this long is good for the league? It's not.

Now Joe Montana? That sounds like they rigged it for the ratings. And John Elway for sure! Yea, he rode out on a white horse after winning two championships. Sure he did.

And why didn't they give Marino one? If you are going to give anyone one you'd give him one.

And they would have given the Buffalo Bills one with Jim Kelly. No way they rigged it so they would lose 4 in a row. No way.

What universe are you from?

Yea because everyone loved watching the Bills lose 4 superbowls in a row.

And so you agree there are other universes outside of ours? Excellent.

Who gives a shit who watched the Bills?

This thread is about Brady and whether he is the greatest.

 

[Alex.]

^^^^

Epic meltdown.

Don't meltdown trollboy, its ok, this is all entertainment for me. I am not the one that got back on the board dishonestly, you did.

I am having a ball with you. Do you suggest that Brady's cheating, lying, destruction of evidence and suspension should be separate and apart from his accomplishments?

You are bringing me all sorts of laughs. His accomplishments are one issue and his cover up are another. The league had never fined more than $25000 for tampering with equipment and has more often than not ignored the tampering. There was visual proof of tampering going on earlier in the season with other teams and the league ignored it. So I don't see it as a big deal, the league has only treated it as a big deal in one occasion and has not before or since. The idea that it gave the Pats a big advantage is ridiculous. Technically any pass interference, holding, roughing the passer, face mask and on and on is cheating.

So you are rationalizing the cheating, lying, destruction of evidence that lead to his suspension. He agreed with that but you will not.

I'm cool with it. Same way most of us gave Clinton a pass for lying about a bj. Who wouldn't?

Thanks at least you honest about cheating. That alone disqualifies Brady.

 

[ChrisL]

 

[Alex.]

 

[sealybobo]

Don't meltdown trollboy, its ok, this is all entertainment for me. I am not the one that got back on the board dishonestly, you did.

I am having a ball with you. Do you suggest that Brady's cheating, lying, destruction of evidence and suspension should be separate and apart from his accomplishments?

You are bringing me all sorts of laughs. His accomplishments are one issue and his cover up are another. The league had never fined more than $25000 for tampering with equipment and has more often than not ignored the tampering. There was visual proof of tampering going on earlier in the season with other teams and the league ignored it. So I don't see it as a big deal, the league has only treated it as a big deal in one occasion and has not before or since. The idea that it gave the Pats a big advantage is ridiculous. Technically any pass interference, holding, roughing the passer, face mask and on and on is cheating.

So you are rationalizing the cheating, lying, destruction of evidence that lead to his suspension. He agreed with that but you will not.

I'm cool with it. Same way most of us gave Clinton a pass for lying about a bj. Who wouldn't?

Thanks at least you honest about cheating. That alone disqualifies Brady.

Nah they all cheated that much.

 

[Alex.]

I am having a ball with you. Do you suggest that Brady's cheating, lying, destruction of evidence and suspension should be separate and apart from his accomplishments?

You are bringing me all sorts of laughs. His accomplishments are one issue and his cover up are another. The league had never fined more than $25000 for tampering with equipment and has more often than not ignored the tampering. There was visual proof of tampering going on earlier in the season with other teams and the league ignored it. So I don't see it as a big deal, the league has only treated it as a big deal in one occasion and has not before or since. The idea that it gave the Pats a big advantage is ridiculous. Technically any pass interference, holding, roughing the passer, face mask and on and on is cheating.

So you are rationalizing the cheating, lying, destruction of evidence that lead to his suspension. He agreed with that but you will not.

I'm cool with it. Same way most of us gave Clinton a pass for lying about a bj. Who wouldn't?

Thanks at least you honest about cheating. That alone disqualifies Brady.

Nah they all cheated that much.

Proof they all cheated that much and if so, why is that acceptable?

 

[Manonthestreet]

In case this hasnt been linked yet......
Brady vs. Belichick: Who’s To Blame For The Patriots’ Insufferable Success?

 

[Papageorgio]

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^^^^

Epic meltdown.

Don't meltdown trollboy, its ok, this is all entertainment for me. I am not the one that got back on the board dishonestly, you did.

I am having a ball with you. Do you suggest that Brady's cheating, lying, destruction of evidence and suspension should be separate and apart from his accomplishments?

You are bringing me all sorts of laughs. His accomplishments are one issue and his cover up are another. The league had never fined more than $25000 for tampering with equipment and has more often than not ignored the tampering. There was visual proof of tampering going on earlier in the season with other teams and the league ignored it. So I don't see it as a big deal, the league has only treated it as a big deal in one occasion and has not before or since. The idea that it gave the Pats a big advantage is ridiculous. Technically any pass interference, holding, roughing the passer, face mask and on and on is cheating.

So you are rationalizing the cheating, lying, destruction of evidence that lead to his suspension. He agreed with that but you will not.

Didn't rationalize anything. If you are going to punish one, punish all, punish fairly, pretty easy to understand. Brady agreed with nothing, he didn't find it worth pursuing. He pled no contest, he never admitted to cheating, he just became the bigger man and let it go.

Brady got his revenge and Goodell presented the trophy to Bellichick and Kraft, amidst boos and Brady walked off while Goodell spoke.

Whether you like it or not, disapprove of it or not, agree with it or not, the fact is Brady will go down as one of the greatest football players of all time, nothing you say do or cry about will change the fact that most people will put him in the top 10.

If you want to stop cheating, I am good with it stop it but don't play games about what is and isn't cheating and if you get caught and don't get caught. If it is a 25000 fine or a four game suspension, so be it but be fair and equal.

 

[Alex.]

In case this hasnt been linked yet......
Brady vs. Belichick: Who’s To Blame For The Patriots’ Insufferable Success?

Nothing about spygate.......................Thus is not a complete or accurate anaysis.

^^^^

Epic meltdown.

Don't meltdown trollboy, its ok, this is all entertainment for me. I am not the one that got back on the board dishonestly, you did.

I am having a ball with you. Do you suggest that Brady's cheating, lying, destruction of evidence and suspension should be separate and apart from his accomplishments?

You are bringing me all sorts of laughs. His accomplishments are one issue and his cover up are another. The league had never fined more than $25000 for tampering with equipment and has more often than not ignored the tampering. There was visual proof of tampering going on earlier in the season with other teams and the league ignored it. So I don't see it as a big deal, the league has only treated it as a big deal in one occasion and has not before or since. The idea that it gave the Pats a big advantage is ridiculous. Technically any pass interference, holding, roughing the passer, face mask and on and on is cheating.

So you are rationalizing the cheating, lying, destruction of evidence that lead to his suspension. He agreed with that but you will not.

Didn't rationalize anything. If you are going to punish one, punish all, punish fairly, pretty easy to understand. Brady agreed with nothing, he didn't find it worth pursuing. He pled no contest, he never admitted to cheating, he just became the bigger man and let it go.

Brady got his revenge and Goodell presented the trophy to Bellichick and Kraft, amidst boos and Brady walked off while Goodell spoke.

Whether you like it or not, disapprove of it or not, agree with it or not, the fact is Brady will go down as one of the greatest football players of all time, nothing you say do or cry about will change the fact that most people will put him in the top 10.

If you want to stop cheating, I am good with it stop it but don't play games about what is and isn't cheating and if you get caught and don't get caught. If it is a 25000 fine or a four game suspension, so be it but be fair and equal.

No one other than Brady has his record of cheating, lying, destroying evidence and suspension and it is being dismissed by you folks when Brady himself agreed to the tribunal, method of investigation, burden of proof and penalty. Yes, there is a great deal of rationalization going on in this thread.

I cannot imagine anyone in this thread calling their co-worker a Hall of Famer or the greatest in their field if they committed the same acts as Brady. So why does Brady get a pass?

Makes no sense whatsoever.