Islam Is A Major, Great Religion of the World

[JoelT1]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

Islam as a faith is not a threat or inferior to other major religions.

Islam 'is' other religions. The Quran is largely made up from copying the bible, and it steals all the prophets of Judaism, and totally undermines the essence of Christianity.

True. Except, Muhammad wasn’t bright enough to copy from the Bible accurately, resulting in many embarrassing variances, discrepancies and errors

 

[JoelT1]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

Islam as a faith is not a threat or inferior to other major religions.

Islam 'is' other religions. The Quran is largely made up from copying the bible, and it steals all the prophets of Judaism, and totally undermines the essence of Christianity.

Get this: All of the prophets were Jewish and lived in Israel BUT the last and greatest prophet was an Arab from Arabia. Riiight!

 

[SSGT Bags]

Islam is a path to enlightenment or a path to God.

We're not enemies of Islam.

Who is we?
Got a mouse in your pocket?

See post 29, tard.

Where is the STFU button?

 

[g5000]

Islam is a path to enlightenment or a path to God.

We're not enemies of Islam.

Who is we?
Got a mouse in your pocket?

See post 29, tard.

Where is the STFU button?

Ask Bannon.

 

[Dajjal]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

Islam as a faith is not a threat or inferior to other major religions.

Islam 'is' other religions. The Quran is largely made up from copying the bible, and it steals all the prophets of Judaism, and totally undermines the essence of Christianity.

True. Except, Muhammad wasn’t bright enough to copy from the Bible accurately, resulting in many embarrassing variances, discrepancies and errors

Yes, much of the Quran seems like a mumbling half remembered rendition of the bible without the rich narrative of the bible stories. In fact mostly it just refers to the bible characters without saying much about them..

 

[JoelT1]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

Islam as a faith is not a threat or inferior to other major religions.

Islam 'is' other religions. The Quran is largely made up from copying the bible, and it steals all the prophets of Judaism, and totally undermines the essence of Christianity.

True. Except, Muhammad wasn’t bright enough to copy from the Bible accurately, resulting in many embarrassing variances, discrepancies and errors

Yes, much of the Quran seems like a mumbling half remembered rendition of the bible without the rich narrative of the bible stories. In fact mostly it just refers to the bible characters without saying much about them..

Absolutely correct. Muhammad obtained biblical material for the Koran from Jews and Christians but the Koran lacks the biblical narrative and dramatic story line. Biblical figures and snippets of biblical stories simply appear out of nowhere and quickly disappear in the Koran, making no sense.

 

[Issa]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

There are scientific miracles that the koran spoke of that a person in that era wouldn't have known of without modern science.

“In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days...”[2]

“If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones....”[3]

He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:

“So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment)


This is just one example there are dozens in the Koran that proves that it wasn't just some crazy men in the middle of the desert that wrote just anything. ask any arabic native speaker how beautifully the koran is put together and if any human being can come up with one pages like it.

 

[Issa]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

Islam as a faith is not a threat or inferior to other major religions.

I guess if you are not a woman, Islam could be a good deal. If you are an 11 year old girl you might have to drop out of school and become some old pervert's wife.

Women are doing just fine under the real islam....Most of those that convert in Europe or in the US are women...one wonders why.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

Islam as a faith is not a threat or inferior to other major religions.

I guess if you are not a woman, Islam could be a good deal. If you are an 11 year old girl you might have to drop out of school and become some old pervert's wife.

Women are doing just fine under the real islam....Most of those that convert in Europe or in the US are women...one wonders why.

Maybe this video will explain why women are converting to Islam...

 

[JoelT1]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

There are scientific miracles that the koran spoke of that a person in that era wouldn't have known of without modern science.

“In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days...”[2]

“If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones....”[3]

He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:

“So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment)


This is just one example there are dozens in the Koran that proves that it wasn't just some crazy men in the middle of the desert that wrote just anything. ask any arabic native speaker how beautifully the koran is put together and if any human being can come up with one pages like it.

Not one scientific discovery has been based on the Koran. In fact, Islamic countries have produced zero important scientific discoveries and 1.5+ BILLION Muslims have produced just 2 Nobel Laureates in science.

Islam = Epic Fail!

 

[JoelT1]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

Islam as a faith is not a threat or inferior to other major religions.

I guess if you are not a woman, Islam could be a good deal. If you are an 11 year old girl you might have to drop out of school and become some old pervert's wife.

Women are doing just fine under the real islam....Most of those that convert in Europe or in the US are women...one wonders why.

Women under Islam read 6 minutes a year LOL Sum of all fears: Arabs read an average of 6 pages a year, study reveals

 

[JoelT1]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

Islam as a faith is not a threat or inferior to other major religions.

I guess if you are not a woman, Islam could be a good deal. If you are an 11 year old girl you might have to drop out of school and become some old pervert's wife.

Women are doing just fine under the real islam....Most of those that convert in Europe or in the US are women...one wonders why.

Women under Islam are oppressed Analysis: Arab Spring nations backtrack on women's rights, poll says

 

[sealybobo]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

Who made up the Bible? They must have been out of their minds too

 

[sealybobo]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

Islam as a faith is not a threat or inferior to other major religions.

I guess if you are not a woman, Islam could be a good deal. If you are an 11 year old girl you might have to drop out of school and become some old pervert's wife.

Women are doing just fine under the real islam....Most of those that convert in Europe or in the US are women...one wonders why.

Women under Islam read 6 minutes a year LOL Sum of all fears: Arabs read an average of 6 pages a year, study reveals

Maybe they study and understand the 6 pages. I read the Bible once in a week. I remember thinking "what the hell did I just read?

 

[JoelT1]

“Great” Islamic scientific discovery: Sun revolves around the Earth LOL

 

[Mudda]

Islam is a path to enlightenment or a path to God.

We're not enemies of Islam.

Enlightenment OR god? So which is it?

 

[Dajjal]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

There are scientific miracles that the koran spoke of that a person in that era wouldn't have known of without modern science.

“In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days...”[2]

“If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones....”[3]

He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:

“So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment)


This is just one example there are dozens in the Koran that proves that it wasn't just some crazy men in the middle of the desert that wrote just anything. ask any arabic native speaker how beautifully the koran is put together and if any human being can come up with one pages like it.

Pretty well everything in the Quran is stolen from earlier sources including stuff about the embryo

Quran sura 22.5 O Mankind! if ye have a doubt about the resurrection (consider) that we created you out of dust, then out of sperm, then out of a leech like clot, then out of a morsel of flesh partly formed and partly unformed, in order that we may manifest (our power) to you. And we cause whom we will to rest in the wombs for an appropriate term. Then do we bring you out as babes, then (foster you) That ye may reach your age of full strength; Translated By Yusuf Ali.

Anyone who believes this brief verse in the quran referring to the embryo is a revelation from God should study the writings of Galen. He was born in AD129 and his writings are a truly staggering insight into the workings of the human body for such a time. He discusses the function of the womb and the uterus, and the development of the embryo and foetus. Most of his knowledge came from observation and the dissection of animals, and most of his false assumptions doubtlessly come from the fact he did not dissect human bodies.
His works were originally written in Greek, but were translated into Latin and Arabic. Such knowledge was in the world 500 years before Muhammad's time, and Hippocrates made astounding medical observations one thousand years before Muhammad. Since surah 22 was reputedly revealed in Madinah, or during the later Makkan period Muhammad had already spent ten years or more acquiring the spoils of War, and it is known that books were highly prised items, so knowledge of Galen's writings could have been acquired from looted manuscripts.

Here are some brief extracts from Galen's, On the natural faculties, book3. These texts being rich in detailed factual observations.

"For, as we know it takes nine months in most women for the foetus to attain maturity in the womb, this organ having its neck quite closed, and entirely surrounding the embryo together with the chorion."

The following quote shows Galen fully understood the role of sex in the reproductive process.

"The women believe they have received the semen which comes from the male, and they are retaining it."

Finally Galen shows that Hippocrates(c 460-c370 BC) before him was aware of details of pregnancy 500 years earlier.

"Hippocrates, who was the first of all physicians and philosophers to declare that the os uteri closes during pregnancy and inflammation."

Predating this detailed Greek scientific knowledge formed from observation and dissection of near human animals, the bible itself shows knowledge of the womb and conception.

The word womb appears 71 times in the King James Bible. Here are some pertinent extracts.

OT Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly, I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

OT Hosea 9:14 Give them, O Lord; what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.

NT Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.

NT Luke 1:41 And it came to pass, that when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost.

Here is one of many verses that states man was formed from dust.
OT Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man out of the dust of the Ground,
The bible also talks of the seed of copulation at Leviticus 15:16 and 15:17 and 15:18. So there is no revelation in using the word sperm, and in fact other English translations, such as Pickthall use the word seed, not sperm, so the exact translation of the Arabic word makes no difference to the implication that such knowledge was in the world.
In short there is no new information in the quran concerning the birth process, unless one claims that the mention of a leech like clot of blood is a revelation that describes a new embryo. But for a man who had eleven wives, and was fully aware of the links between menstrual blood, and the lack of it during pregnancy, it only took one miscarriage for him to see a tiny foetus for himself. Therefore verse 22.5 of the quran did not require any revelation from God, as Muhammad could have been well aware of most of what is involved in the natural process of gestation.

 

[Lastamender]

Writings from a savage 1500 years ago is enlightenment

There are scientific miracles that the koran spoke of that a person in that era wouldn't have known of without modern science.

“In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days...”[2]

“If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones....”[3]

He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:

“So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment)


This is just one example there are dozens in the Koran that proves that it wasn't just some crazy men in the middle of the desert that wrote just anything. ask any arabic native speaker how beautifully the koran is put together and if any human being can come up with one pages like it.

This from the same book that says the world is flat and the Sun sets in a pool of muddy water. Next.

 

[g5000]

Islam is a path to enlightenment or a path to God.

We're not enemies of Islam.

Enlightenment OR god? So which is it?

Ask Steve Bannon.

 

[Lastamender]

Islam is a path to enlightenment or a path to God.

We're not enemies of Islam.

Enlightenment OR god? So which is it?

Ask Steve Bannon.

Why don't you start a thread about Bannon? I am surprised Coyote is not telling you are trying to derail the thread.