Israel attacks civilians

[P F Tinmore]

Off topic.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

 

[JStone]

Off topic.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

Where is that 1948 map of Egypt? Can I take the Nile River home since Egypt doesn't really exist? It will be nicer than a Jacuzzi

Why no bogus palestine or bogus palesteeenians in their own Holy Quran but the Children of Israel are in it?

Quran 17:104 And We said to the Children of Israel after him: "Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near [i.e. the Day of Resurrection or the descent of Christ ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) on the earth]. We shall bring you altogether as mixed crowd

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xrnw-yIc9w]The True History of Palestine - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

BETHLEHEM, (PIC)-- The Israeli occupation authority (IOA) confiscated 106 dunums of Palestinian land in Khader village in Bethlehem province and ordered the demolition of three homes.

Hassan Subaih, monitoring Jewish settlement activity in the village of Khader, told Quds Press that the village’s municipality received on Saturday an order from the IOA stipulating the confiscation of 86 dunums of cultivated land and the demolition of the three houses.

He explained that the municipality on Friday had received a similar order stipulating the confiscation of 20 dunum of the village land near the Etzion settlement complex, bringing the total area of land confiscated to 106 dunums.

IOA confiscates 106 dunum of land in Bethlehem

 

[JStone]

BETHLEHEM

Matthew 2

After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”

When King Herod heard this he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him. When he had called together all the people’s chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Messiah was to be born. “In Bethlehem in Judea,” they replied, “for this is what the prophet has written:

“‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah,
are by no means least among the rulers of Judah;
for out of you will come a ruler
who will shepherd my people Israel.’

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xrnw-yIc9w]The True History of Palestine - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

BETHLEHEM

Matthew 2

After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”

When King Herod heard this he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him. When he had called together all the people’s chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Messiah was to be born. “In Bethlehem in Judea,” they replied, “for this is what the prophet has written:

“‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah,
are by no means least among the rulers of Judah;
for out of you will come a ruler
who will shepherd my people Israel.’

It makes you wonder why Israel is driving the Christians out of Bethlehem.

Speaking of Israel: Whatever happened to that 1948 map of Israel?

 

[JStone]

Reverend Malcolm Hedding, Executive Director, International Christian Embassy Jerusalem: Why Christians Are Indebted to Israel.

Over the years more and more evangelicals have continued to come to Israel, even during times of violence. This has had a profound impact on the Jewish people. Malcolm says the Embassy has been a forerunner in gaining a presence in Israel.

Malcolm says one of the most significant developments in Israel has been the formation of the Christian Allies Caucus in the Knesset, the Israeli parliament, which has provided a way for Christians to relate to the Parliament and the Jewish nation at the highest level. Having lived in Israel for so long, Malcolm says the ICEJ has been given a view of events from the grassroots level. "Being in the land and on the spot has given us a view that is special," he says. "We have been here."

Christians continue to come from all over the world, and that has made a significant impact as well. "The impact is incredible," he says. When others weren’t coming, the Church came, and that causes the Jews to ask, "Why?" Malcolm says they are constantly approached by Hebrew academics and politicians and asked why they stay and why Christians come. This gives Malcolm and others the opportunity to explain that the restoration of Israel is not just a political event, but evidence of God’s Word fulfilled. It is evidence of the truthfulness of God’s Word. This is a catalyst for them to look at their own Scriptures and search for the truth.

This year marks the 25th Anniversary of the ICJE, and 5,000 Christians are expected to attend their Feast of Tabernacles celebration. The Feast of Tabernacles (September 27 – October 5) is the biggest tourist event in Israel and is famous for attracting large numbers of Christian evangelicals. Pat Robertson is one of the featured speakers for this year's event.
http://www.cbn.com/700club/guests/bios/malcolm_hedding_100604.aspx

 

[P F Tinmore]

Native Christians out.

Foreign Christians in.

What's up with that?

 

[JStone]

Christians in the Middle East

Christians in Europe and America need to recognize that, of all the Middle Eastern countries, the one that has managed best at keeping its Christians is Israel. The nation's Arab Christian community is small, but for decades it has remained stable. Meanwhile, the birth this year of the Republic of South Sudan has the potential to alter some of the diplomatic landscape. Although the nation is more African than Arab, its emergence as an ethnically Christian nation—the first in the area since France tried to protect the Maronite Christians with the creation of Lebanon in the 1940s—may offer a refuge for threatened Christians throughout the Middle East.

Of the eight million people or so living in Israel, around 20% are Arabs—of whom about 7% are Christian. Israel's Arab Christians, in other words, number only about 110,000 people, living mostly in tight communities in Jerusalem and the Galilee.

For all the solicitous attention paid to them by such international Christian organizations as the World Council of Churches, you would think they were a larger and more important group. Much of the Vatican's diplomacy—its occasionally adversarial relations with Israel, its Palestinian favoritism, its reluctance to condemn the Islamic dictatorships—derives from its belief that the ancient Christian communities of the Middle East are at risk, and that the best way to defend them is to be seen to side with Arabs against their perceived enemies.

Hard to say the Vatican is wrong about the first part. At the beginning of the twentieth century, large numbers of Christians still lived in their traditional Orthodox and Catholic communities, from the Holy Mountain of Mount Athos all the way around the Mediterranean—through Asia Minor, down the Levant, and across North Africa to Morocco. In 1914, they made up 25% of Ottoman Empire.

The next year the Turks began the systematic part of their slaughter of the Armenians, and the churches of the Middle East have been in catastrophic decline ever since. By 2001, Christians were down to less than 1% of the Turkish population. The recent news out of Egypt—thousands of Coptic Christians fleeing the country since March, with 28 killed and hundreds wounded in Cairo on October 9—is only the latest installment in the ongoing story of the dying of ancient Christianity in the Middle East. The single most dangerous thing in the world to be, right now, is a member of a Christian community in a Muslim country.

The most interesting and least understood change in the region, however, is the growth over the last decade of an entirely new Christian population. At least 200,000—and possibly as many as half a million—non-Arab Christians now live in Israel. Some are asylum-seekers from Sudan and Eritrea. Others are illegal immigrants who have slipped in from Egypt and guest workers from Goa, South America, and the Philippines. Add in the Jewish converts and the immigrants from Russia, and their numbers start to look significant.

A first-rate piece of reporting by the Associated Press this week describes the emergence of these people as an identifiable group in Israel. They work in normal Israeli jobs, their children speak Hebrew, and they think of themselves as fully Israeli—in marked contrast to the local Arab Christians who feel a cultural tie to Palestinian Muslims and remain generally antagonistic to the State of Israel.

Nothing in the Middle East ever seems to work out quite the way one hopes. But surely there is something worth noting in the re-emergence of even a tiny Christian population in the region that is unmoved by the Arab hatred of Israel, the ancient tribal divisions, and the envenomed rhetoric that dominates the political scene.
JOSEPH BOTTUM: CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST….SEE NOTE PLEASE | RUTHFULLY YOURS

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel's Arab Christians, in other words, number only about 110,000 people, living mostly in tight communities in Jerusalem and the Galilee.

And all those Israeli settlements around Jerusalem are shoving out the native Christian population.

 

[JStone]

"Christians in Europe and America need to recognize that, of all the Middle Eastern countries, the one that has managed best at keeping its Christians is Israel. The nation's Arab Christian community is small, but for decades it has remained stable. Meanwhile, the birth this year of the Republic of South Sudan has the potential to alter some of the diplomatic landscape. Although the nation is more African than Arab, its emergence as an ethnically Christian nation—the first in the area since France tried to protect the Maronite Christians with the creation of Lebanon in the 1940s—may offer a refuge for threatened Christians throughout the Middle East."

 

[JStone]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adeKtTlejNY]Christians under Siege in Gaza - UN Silent - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Christians in Europe and America need to recognize that, of all the Middle Eastern countries, the one that has managed best at keeping its Christians is Israel.

The Christians in Palestine are being driven out by Israel.

 

[JStone]

Christians in Europe and America need to recognize that, of all the Middle Eastern countries, the one that has managed best at keeping its Christians is Israel. The nation's Arab Christian community is small, but for decades it has remained stable. Meanwhile, the birth this year of the Republic of South Sudan has the potential to alter some of the diplomatic landscape. Although the nation is more African than Arab, its emergence as an ethnically Christian nation—the first in the area since France tried to protect the Maronite Christians with the creation of Lebanon in the 1940s—may offer a refuge for threatened Christians throughout the Middle East.

The most interesting and least understood change in the region, however, is the growth over the last decade of an entirely new Christian population. At least 200,000—and possibly as many as half a million—non-Arab Christians now live in Israel. Some are asylum-seekers from Sudan and Eritrea. Others are illegal immigrants who have slipped in from Egypt and guest workers from Goa, South America, and the Philippines. Add in the Jewish converts and the immigrants from Russia, and their numbers start to look significant.

A first-rate piece of reporting by the Associated Press this week describes the emergence of these people as an identifiable group in Israel. They work in normal Israeli jobs, their children speak Hebrew, and they think of themselves as fully Israeli—in marked contrast to the local Arab Christians who feel a cultural tie to Palestinian Muslims and remain generally antagonistic to the State of Israel.JOSEPH BOTTUM: CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST….SEE NOTE PLEASE | RUTHFULLY YOURS

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adeKtTlejNY]Christians under Siege in Gaza - UN Silent - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Posting the same video of fake Christians over and over again will not prove your point.

 

[JStone]

fake Christians

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Vp642ERhM&feature=related]Sound-Effects - Crowd Laughing - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLxjNHj1p8&feature=relmfu]Greek Orthodox Christians in Gaza - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JStone]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adeKtTlejNY]Christians under Siege in Gaza - UN Silent - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, (PIC)-- The Israeli occupation authority (IOA) declared its intention to demolish hundreds of Palestinian homes and buildings in area C under its control in the occupied West Bank and to retain illegal settlement outposts.

Haaretz newspaper said the Israeli prosecution bureau pledged to respond to petitions filed by Palestinian residents with the Israeli higher court against demolition of their property by razing hundreds of buildings and structures including schools without delay.

The IOA prevents the Palestinian natives from building or getting licenses to build in area C, so they find themselves forced to set up even temporary structures and tents because they know that Israel will not let them live peacefully in their lands without harassment and demolitions.

IOA decides to raze hundreds of Palestinian homes, keep illegal outposts

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, (PIC)-- The Israeli occupation authority (IOA) declared its intention to demolish hundreds of Palestinian homes and buildings in area C under its control in the occupied West Bank and to retain illegal settlement outposts.

Haaretz newspaper said the Israeli prosecution bureau pledged to respond to petitions filed by Palestinian residents with the Israeli higher court against demolition of their property by razing hundreds of buildings and structures including schools without delay.

The IOA prevents the Palestinian natives from building or getting licenses to build in area C, so they find themselves forced to set up even temporary structures and tents because they know that Israel will not let them live peacefully in their lands without harassment and demolitions.

IOA decides to raze hundreds of Palestinian homes, keep illegal outposts

Maybe if the "Palestinians" moved to Jordan, they could build their homes without government permission?

 

[JStone]

The Israeli occupation

Holy Quran got it wrong about the Children of Israel?

Quran 17:104 And We said to the Children of Israel after him: "Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near [i.e. the Day of Resurrection or the descent of Christ ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) on the earth]. We shall bring you altogether as mixed crowd

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xrnw-yIc9w]The True History of Palestine - YouTube[/ame]