Israeli Torture And Rape

It’s rape. It should be easy to opposed and denounce. You don’t, because you don’t.

Oh I'm ready to denounce rape, but I won't denounce an uncorroborated claim of rape which might have been fabricated. I say that because although the Israelis acknowledge the UN report about "reasonable grounds" they continue to block any investigation by that same UN, by teams trained war crime investigators.
 
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Except that your beloved nation of Israel is mass murdering innocent civilians. Why would you support war crimes?
No, the Israelis are not. You hate Jews. You always have. And you are MAGA. You know Christian evangelicals despise the likes of you,.
 
No, it is not all one way. The Pallys are violent, always have been toward the Jews.
Its white Christian Europeans that initiated antisemitism and pogroms and expulsions of Jews, and all of that started hundreds of years before the birth of Islam. It was the Germans that were violent toward Jews not the Arabs. Only after nationalist Jews began planning to ethnically cleanse Palestine did any resentment and hostility begin to take hold in the Arab mind.
 
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Oh, stop it, both sides wanted what they wanted in Palestine. Don't act as if the Pallys were any more righteous than the Jews in their actions. Just stop it.
I won't stop it, you said "Arab genocide of Jews began in 1948" I then asked for a source, where did you read it, how do you know its true, you seem to not have a source or even basis, were you making this up? is it just an opinion?
 
Its white Christian Europeans that initiated antisemitism and pogroms and expulsions of Jews, and all of that started hundreds of years before the birth of Islam. It was the Germans that were violent toward Jews not the Arabs. Only after nationalist Jews began planning to ethnically cleanse Palestine did any resentment and hostility begin to take hold in the Arab mind.
And now the Muslims have picked up the mantle. They and their supporters are assaulting Jews right here in America, all due to HAMAS propaganda and Arab money buying their way into liberal universities.
 
And now the Muslims have picked up the mantle. They and their supporters are assaulting Jews right here in America, all due to HAMAS propaganda and Arab money buying their way into liberal universities.

Well if Zionists are going to falsely accuse an entire race of people for a hundred years, of hating Jews and wanting to kill Jews while the Zionists are actually ethnically cleansing three quarters of a million of them, then they might just get a little upset at being treated like that. What do you honestly expect people to do when they've been lied about and falsely accused for eighty years?

You whine about antisemitism, tropes yet cannot see that the incessant blaming of Arabs as scapegoats as a means of gaining sympathy is doing to them EXACTLY what true antisemites to do to Jews. These people are blamed just because they are Arabs, its sickening.
 
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Not at all, I refuse to denounce a crime that has not been proven to have taken place, call me old fashioned but unlike the Zionist I demand evidence, a reason, a basis, if that upsets you then that's just tough.

The Israelis are AFRAID to allow an independent team in not because the team is "antisemitic" but because they've lied about the rapes to some degree or other. The Israelis lie all the time, are you going to tell me now that they don't?
 
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People are starting to see through the smokescreen of Zionism, the fog is clearing slowly, people aren't going to be fooled by the maniacal Zionist extremists much longer.

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Not at all, I refuse to denounce a crime that has not been proven to have taken place, call me old fashioned but unlike the Zionist I demand evidence, a reason, a basis, if that upsets you then that's just tough.

The Israelis are AFRAID to allow an independent team in not because the team is "antisemitic" but because they've lied about the rapes to some degree or other. The Israelis lie all the time, are you going to tell me now that they don't?
You are a scumbag. Dismissing the overwhelming evidence of sexual violence on 10/7 because of an objection by Israel to one investigation. You just dismiss all the other investigations and evidence on a technicality.

You are an apologist and not a very good one.

Still, it represents the most extensive report yet on the subject of sexual violence on Oct. 7 conducted by an independent body based outside of Israel.

The findings are based on dozens of interviews with survivors and witnesses of the attack, first responders and health providers conducted during a 17-day trip to Israel in January and February. The U.N. researchers and specialists also reviewed more than 5,000 photographs and around 50 hours of footage of the attacks.

Rapes likely took place in at least three locations on Oct. 7, the report said. And researchers found "clear and convincing information" about the rape and sexualized mistreatment of hostages in Gaza, warning that such violence may be ongoing. In total, about 1,200 people were killed in the Oct. 7 attack and some 240 taken hostage…..

……."In most of these incidents, victims were first subjected to rape, and then killed. In at least two incidents related to the rape of women's corpses," Patten said.

Several bodies, mostly women, were found naked or undressed from the waist down, with their hands tied and shot to death, the report said. "Although circumstantial, such a pattern may be indicative of some forms of sexual violence," Patten said.

 
I won't stop it, you said "Arab genocide of Jews began in 1948" I then asked for a source, where did you read it, how do you know its true, you seem to not have a source or even basis, were you making this up? is it just an opinion?
Stop out. I will not allow you to justify your malformed sense of history. We all know what happened. What you hate is the Arabs lost and did not kill all the Jews.
 
You are a scumbag. Dismissing the overwhelming evidence of sexual violence on 10/7 because of an objection by Israel to one investigation. You just dismiss all the other investigations and evidence on a technicality.
I think the Israelis or the IDF or both, are lying, perhaps exaggerating but not being honest. If my wife or daughter had been raped I'd be fuming at the authorities for impeding a timely investigation.
You are an apologist and not a very good one.
Not in your league, that's for sure.
Still, it represents the most extensive report yet on the subject of sexual violence on Oct. 7 conducted by an independent body based outside of Israel.

The findings are based on dozens of interviews with survivors and witnesses of the attack, first responders and health providers conducted during a 17-day trip to Israel in January and February. The U.N. researchers and specialists also reviewed more than 5,000 photographs and around 50 hours of footage of the attacks.

Rapes likely took place in at least three locations on Oct. 7, the report said. And researchers found "clear and convincing information" about the rape and sexualized mistreatment of hostages in Gaza, warning that such violence may be ongoing. In total, about 1,200 people were killed in the Oct. 7 attack and some 240 taken hostage…..

……."In most of these incidents, victims were first subjected to rape, and then killed. In at least two incidents related to the rape of women's corpses," Patten said.

Several bodies, mostly women, were found naked or undressed from the waist down, with their hands tied and shot to death, the report said. "Although circumstantial, such a pattern may be indicative of some forms of sexual violence," Patten said.

Yes that report was put together by the United Nations, the same people who want to investigate and get case documents filed and move the investigation forward but the Israelis will not allow them to. Clearly the UN was fed information that enabled them to put the report together, but it's all based on information supplied by the Israelis, questionable quality even hearsay.

Now that the Israelis have frozen the investigation it begs the question was some of the information they fed to the UN untrue?

JERUSALEM (AP) — Chaim Otmazgin had tended to dozens of shot, burned or mutilated bodies before he reached the home that would put him at the center of a global clash.

Working in a kibbutz that was ravaged by Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, Otmazgin — a volunteer commander with ZAKA, an Israeli search and rescue organization — saw the body of a teenager, shot dead and separated from her family in a different room. Her pants had been pulled down below her waist. He thought that was evidence of sexual violence.

He alerted journalists to what he’d seen. He tearfully recounted the details in a nationally televised appearance in the Israeli Parliament. In the frantic hours, days and weeks that followed the Hamas attack, his testimony ricocheted across the world.

But it turns out that what Otmazgin thought had occurred in the home at the kibbutz hadn’t happened.

Beyond the numerous and well-documented atrocities committed by Hamas militants on Oct. 7, some accounts from that day, like Otmazgin’s, proved untrue.

“It’s not that I invented a story,” Otmazgin told The Associated Press in an interview, detailing the origins of his initial explosive claim — one of two by ZAKA volunteers about sexual violence that turned out to be unfounded.

“I couldn’t think of any other option” other than the teen having been sexually assaulted, he said. “At the end, it turned out to be different, so I corrected myself.”

But it was too late.

Source: AP News
 
Stop out. I will not allow you to justify your malformed sense of history. We all know what happened. What you hate is the Arabs lost and did not kill all the Jews.
Typical, ask a Zionist for evidence or facts to support claims they make and they turn around and accuse of you being motivated by a desire to see "all the Jews killed".

So I am an antisemite if I ask questions that a Zionist doesn't want to be asked, this is exactly what Hajo Meyer warned about:

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You obviously feel entitled, special, you feel you can make foul hateful accusations about a Gentile just because it helps you avoid answering a question about the source of your claim.

You're entitled to nothing, you have no special privileges here, either argue your case rationally or stand and get ridiculed.
 

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