It's down to us.

Artificial intelligence will force us by necessity to adopt socialism…. You can deny it all you want, but it's coming, whether you like it or not.
You are certainly not here talking about political “communism” or “socialism” — which you even associate with present day North Korea!

You are a utopian (really a “distopian”) technocrat and your comments on “communism” are completely unrelated to the topic.

Are you really a false flag provocateur acting here to muddle the discussion?
 
In the grand scheme of things I suppose it always has been.

By now I should have known better than to be shocked by the Court's decision to take on the Trump immunity case. But I still was. The very fact that the court is taking up this case with absolutely, unequivocally, no merit means in no uncertain terms that the conservative majority is doing what it can to make sure that Jack Smith's prosecution of Trump for the failed insurrection will not occur before the election. They are with him. Do they really think the American public will not see this for what it is? Delay is a victory for Trump and a defeat for justice. Something the conservatives understand implicitly.

Beyond the absurdity of taking the case in the first place is the way they have laid out the schedule. Oral arguments do not begin until April 22nd. An inexplicable delay after taking two and a half weeks to decide to take the case. This, after Smith asked the Court to decide whether to take it prior to the appellate court's unanimous decision no President has such immunity after being thrown out at the district court level.

Jack Smith, the special counsel prosecuting former President Donald J. Trump on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, urged the Supreme Court on Wednesday to reject a request from Mr. Trump to put the case on hold while he pursues appeals.

“Delay in the resolution of these charges threatens to frustrate the public interest in a speedy and fair verdict — a compelling interest in every criminal case and one that has unique national importance here, as it involves federal criminal charges against a former president for alleged criminal efforts to overturn the results of the presidential election, including through the use of official power,” Mr. Smith wrote.

Special Counsel Asks Supreme Court to Move Quickly in Trump Immunity Case

The Court's ruling on the case is all but a foregone conclusion. It is not legally possible for the Court to claim that presidents have lifetime immunity from criminal prosecution for crimes they commit while in office. Trump's contention the administration of elections falls within the scope of his official duties being laughable. So instead, their strategy is to ensure that the American people will be denied knowing what the verdict in the case is before they cast their votes. Because the trial that was set to begin just days from now in early March is now on hold. In 7 weeks oral arguments will start. Even if the Court were to make an expedited ruling (not likely since it would defeat the purpose of the conservatives) Judge Chutkan will be up against the DoJ prohibition of not engaging in actions so close to an election that it could influence the outcome. The prohibition Repub Jim Comey violated before the 2016 election. It's as though the conservatives were looking at a calendar to inform their decisions. Of course they were.

So, it's down to us. The institutions of government in the era of Trumpery are no longer aligned with the public's interest in preserving democracy. We, that is those of us who see what is happening and know what is at stake, must save ourselves now. The entity riding to the rescue is us.........or it all comes down.
You could always just not vote for him, you know.
 
You can repeat that like a mindless robot, but it doesn't make it true. Capitalism killed many more and advanced automation and artificial intelligence will force us by necessity to adopt socialism (a non-profit, centrally planned system of mass production). You can deny it all you want, but it's coming, whether you like it or not.

Not even close. I'm not denying it hasn't arrived. You can see the liberals embracing it and bowing down to communism needing to be led by the nose and held in bondage. The US is splitting but your commie love fest won't be happening everywhere.
 
Not even close. I'm not denying it hasn't arrived. You can see the liberals embracing it and bowing down to communism needing to be led by the nose and held in bondage. The US is splitting but your commie love fest won't be happening everywhere.

Republicans are a branch of the Communist Party
 
No, but dems lead by example in their faith and love for communism and the bowing to the state. Their actions speak. Words don't.
Nice try Commie.

Ever wonder why both Communists and Republicans embrace the color…RED?
 
Nice try Commie.

Ever wonder why both Communists and Republicans embrace the color…RED?

No, the nytimes used it on their graphics in 2000, repub and red both started with r. Ever wonder why democrats love communism so much? They can't think for themselves and need a thumb in their nose to be led around. Their religion is govt and the state. Communism hates God. Democrats hate God.

Your own party can't even figure out what a man or a woman is and embraces the killing of the unborn while assuaging their conscience by calling it a blob. This is how sick and depraved your party is.
 
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In the grand scheme of things I suppose it always has been.

By now I should have known better than to be shocked by the Court's decision to take on the Trump immunity case. But I still was. The very fact that the court is taking up this case with absolutely, unequivocally, no merit means in no uncertain terms that the conservative majority is doing what it can to make sure that Jack Smith's prosecution of Trump for the failed insurrection will not occur before the election. They are with him. Do they really think the American public will not see this for what it is? Delay is a victory for Trump and a defeat for justice. Something the conservatives understand implicitly.

Beyond the absurdity of taking the case in the first place is the way they have laid out the schedule. Oral arguments do not begin until April 22nd. An inexplicable delay after taking two and a half weeks to decide to take the case. This, after Smith asked the Court to decide whether to take it prior to the appellate court's unanimous decision no President has such immunity after being thrown out at the district court level.

Jack Smith, the special counsel prosecuting former President Donald J. Trump on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, urged the Supreme Court on Wednesday to reject a request from Mr. Trump to put the case on hold while he pursues appeals.

“Delay in the resolution of these charges threatens to frustrate the public interest in a speedy and fair verdict — a compelling interest in every criminal case and one that has unique national importance here, as it involves federal criminal charges against a former president for alleged criminal efforts to overturn the results of the presidential election, including through the use of official power,” Mr. Smith wrote.

Special Counsel Asks Supreme Court to Move Quickly in Trump Immunity Case

The Court's ruling on the case is all but a foregone conclusion. It is not legally possible for the Court to claim that presidents have lifetime immunity from criminal prosecution for crimes they commit while in office. Trump's contention the administration of elections falls within the scope of his official duties being laughable. So instead, their strategy is to ensure that the American people will be denied knowing what the verdict in the case is before they cast their votes. Because the trial that was set to begin just days from now in early March is now on hold. In 7 weeks oral arguments will start. Even if the Court were to make an expedited ruling (not likely since it would defeat the purpose of the conservatives) Judge Chutkan will be up against the DoJ prohibition of not engaging in actions so close to an election that it could influence the outcome. The prohibition Repub Jim Comey violated before the 2016 election. It's as though the conservatives were looking at a calendar to inform their decisions. Of course they were.

So, it's down to us. The institutions of government in the era of Trumpery are no longer aligned with the public's interest in preserving democracy. We, that is those of us who see what is happening and know what is at stake, must save ourselves now. The entity riding to the rescue is us.........or it all comes down.
not legally possible.? isn't this the court that found that "money is speech. ?:"

i'll bet scalia even works in "original intent" and some craziness about the 18uth century definition of immunity.

"legally impossible? hold my beer" kavenaugh

in the event presidents are immune, the best decision biden could do for america is just shoot trump, in the mouth, while allowing the repubs time to nominate a non treasonous opponent
So you're advocating for the miltary to start killing and murdering US citizens?
i think that most citizens (far more than care a whit about trump or biden) want to maintain law and order, don't you?
 
In the grand scheme of things I suppose it always has been.

By now I should have known better than to be shocked by the Court's decision to take on the Trump immunity case. But I still was. The very fact that the court is taking up this case with absolutely, unequivocally, no merit means in no uncertain terms that the conservative majority is doing what it can to make sure that Jack Smith's prosecution of Trump for the failed insurrection will not occur before the election. They are with him. Do they really think the American public will not see this for what it is? Delay is a victory for Trump and a defeat for justice. Something the conservatives understand implicitly.

Beyond the absurdity of taking the case in the first place is the way they have laid out the schedule. Oral arguments do not begin until April 22nd. An inexplicable delay after taking two and a half weeks to decide to take the case. This, after Smith asked the Court to decide whether to take it prior to the appellate court's unanimous decision no President has such immunity after being thrown out at the district court level.

Jack Smith, the special counsel prosecuting former President Donald J. Trump on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, urged the Supreme Court on Wednesday to reject a request from Mr. Trump to put the case on hold while he pursues appeals.

“Delay in the resolution of these charges threatens to frustrate the public interest in a speedy and fair verdict — a compelling interest in every criminal case and one that has unique national importance here, as it involves federal criminal charges against a former president for alleged criminal efforts to overturn the results of the presidential election, including through the use of official power,” Mr. Smith wrote.

Special Counsel Asks Supreme Court to Move Quickly in Trump Immunity Case

The Court's ruling on the case is all but a foregone conclusion. It is not legally possible for the Court to claim that presidents have lifetime immunity from criminal prosecution for crimes they commit while in office. Trump's contention the administration of elections falls within the scope of his official duties being laughable. So instead, their strategy is to ensure that the American people will be denied knowing what the verdict in the case is before they cast their votes. Because the trial that was set to begin just days from now in early March is now on hold. In 7 weeks oral arguments will start. Even if the Court were to make an expedited ruling (not likely since it would defeat the purpose of the conservatives) Judge Chutkan will be up against the DoJ prohibition of not engaging in actions so close to an election that it could influence the outcome. The prohibition Repub Jim Comey violated before the 2016 election. It's as though the conservatives were looking at a calendar to inform their decisions. Of course they were.

So, it's down to us. The institutions of government in the era of Trumpery are no longer aligned with the public's interest in preserving democracy. We, that is those of us who see what is happening and know what is at stake, must save ourselves now. The entity riding to the rescue is us.........or it all comes down.
Sadly I don't think the decision, regardless of outcome, will have much effect on voters.

Even if Smith somehow gets this case finished up before the election and a jury convicts, Trump supporters will still support him with a plethora of right wing talking points at the ready.

Sure, maybe a few independents are waiting for this decision but I doubt even many of them haven't already made up their minds.
 
not legally possible.? isn't this the court that found that "money is speech. ?:"

i'll bet scalia even works in "original intent" and some craziness about the 18uth century definition of immunity.

"legally impossible? hold my beer" kavenaugh

in the event presidents are immune, the best decision biden could do for america is just shoot trump, in the mouth, while allowing the repubs time to nominate a non treasonous opponent

i think that most citizens (far more than care a whit about trump or biden) want to maintain law and order, don't you?
Maintain law and order?????
Open borders, light on crime no cash bail release of violent criminals, etc. is you delusion of law and order????
GTFOH :eusa_hand:

:rolleyes:
 
Sadly I don't think the decision, regardless of outcome, will have much effect on voters.

Even if Smith somehow gets this case finished up before the election and a jury convicts, Trump supporters will still support him with a plethora of right wing talking points at the ready.

Sure, maybe a few independents are waiting for this decision but I doubt even many of them haven't already made up their minds.
Actually you’re wrong. Polls have shown that a big percentage of Trump voters would NOT vote for him if he were convicted of even one crime.

I can’t say if the SCOTUS is beholden to him or just to the Republican Party but this makes it clear that it’s one or the other.

There is almost zero possibility that the Court would rule that a President has life time immunity and they should probably have just refused to take this case and let the lower Court ruling stand.

The only REAL (non-political) reason to even take the case is that they think an argument could be reasonably made that a President might have lifetime immunity from prosecution. That’s absolutely absurd.

But here they can (and have set the stage to) slow walk this prosecution and pretend to have integrity by eventually ruling against an appeal that should never have reached them.

So yea folks. It’s up to us to stop this attack on Democracy.

We did it in 2020 and we MUST do it again.

And while we’re at it, remember what they did here and with the Dobbs/Doe ruling

We need to get rid of all of these Republicans. From dog catcher to the White House. Local/state elections , Both Houses of Congress

You can not trust Republicans to do the right thing

Ever
 
You can repeat that like a mindless robot, but it doesn't make it true. Capitalism killed many more and advanced automation and artificial intelligence will force us by necessity to adopt socialism (a non-profit, centrally planned system of mass production). You can deny it all you want, but it's coming, whether you like it or not.
Will we still import products from overseas? Or will we stop those imports that we would make. And from your sentences we will e making everything.
 

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