"It's not theirs, Its mine"

[jc456]

None of those documents were ever declassified, much less recorded that they were leaving the WH to go to Mar O Lago when he left office

Sure they were, Trump declassified them.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Sure they were, Trump declassified them.

Then he can show the receipt. And most of all, that he had the right to bring them to Mar O Lago and keep them where he kept them.

But then, it does not explain why he returned 15 boxes full of them in January.

I have shown the communications between NARA and Trump.

If he is the owner of those documents, he needs to show proof that all 27 boxes full of documents belong to him and not to the government.

 

[Concerned American]

Nope. It's a felony.

What shithouse did you get your law degree from?

 

[jc456]

Then he can show the receipt. And most of all, that he had the right to bring them to Mar O Lago and keep them where he kept them.

But then, it does not explain why he returned 15 boxes full of them in January.

I have shown the communications between NARA and Trump.

If he is the owner of those documents, he needs to show proof that all 27 boxes full of documents belong to him and not to the government.

Why? He said he did he did! No other rule probey

 

[jc456]

Nope. It's a felony.

Says what law?

 

[Sixties Fan]

What shithouse did you get your law degree from?

Trump signed it into law in 2018. It went from being a misdemeanor to being a felony.
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Oddly enough, one of the multiple laws covering the mishandling of government information is one that Trump himself amended during his tenure in the Oval Office, as pointed out by Tennessee state Sen. Jeff Yarbro (D) on Twitter.

Tucked into a bill Trump signed into law in January 2018 was a provision increasing the punishment for knowingly removing classified materials with the intent to retain them at an “unauthorized location.”

Trump Made It A Felony To Mishandle Classified Documents In 2018

The FBI search of the former president's Florida property was focused on mishandled presidential materials, according to reports.

news.yahoo.com

 

[Orangecat]

I sure would not share intel with a country, that had an asshole that could declassify what I shared under mutual need to know and maybe sell it, on a whim.

So don't share your info with Biden. Problem solved.

 

[Orangecat]

Declassifying while being President is one thing. They are then reclassified, as needed.

Taking any WH documents, they belong to the Federal Government and not to WH officials, once you leave office to your new home is another.

Here are some of the consequences of not knowing where any WH documents are, if they have been classified or reclassified:

The Department of State handles, processes, and stores thousands of classified documents each day at overseas posts and at the Main State headquarters building. Countless meetings are held where classified information is discussed. Gathering, analyzing, and distributing information is central to the Department’s mission to implement U.S. foreign policy. This information routinely includes national security concerns such as intelligence information, sensitive matters relating to bilateral and multilateral relations, and other national security issues. The information is disseminated through a variety of media, including electronic mail, computer systems, hard copy, telephone, fax machines, and meetings.

Regardless of the means by which such information is disseminated, it is essential that it be limited to authorized personnel with appropriate security clearances who have been adequately briefed on protecting such information. Compromising classified information— inadvertently or intentionally—particularly highly classified intelligence information, could result in:

• the loss of vital sources of information to U.S. policy makers and military planners;
• the arrest, torture, or death of sources or other individuals;
• the waste of huge outlays of funds for research and development of data collection methods; and
• serious damage to the Government's relationships with other governments.

The Department acknowledges the threat to national security and has established policies and procedures to minimize the potential compromise of classified information. Employees and contractors receive background investigations before being cleared to handle classified information; there are guards and access controls -- at the perimeter entrances to Main State and in many offices; procedures are in place for distributing classified material to individuals; employees receive briefings on handling classified information; and there are procedures in place for identifying individuals who violate security protocols.
Department regulations require that the executive director of each bureau ensure that a principal unit security officer (PUSO) is designated. The USO's duty is to make sure classified information is handled according to regulations, and to work with office staff to ensure that all employees are aware of security requirements and procedures. By regulation, the ultimate responsibility for safeguarding classified information rests with each organizational unit supervisor. The Foreign Affairs Manual (FAM) also states that "each employee having access to and/or possession of classified material is responsible for the maintenance of the security of such material."

The OIG recognizes that there is an inevitable tension between those charged with collecting and protecting intelligence information and those who must use that information to formulate and conduct foreign policy.

This report describes Department policies and procedures for protecting classified information at the Main. State headquarters building, and the extent to which security measures have been effective in preventing the unauthorized disclosure of classified information.

Protecting Classified Documents at State Department Headquarters

State Department Office of Inspector General Audit, September 1999

sgp.fas.org

Tl;dr.
Wall of text means you don't know.

 

[surada]

What shithouse did you get your law degree from?

Trump made it a felony. Previously it was a misdemeanor.

 

[surada]

So don't share your info with Biden. Problem solved.

Biden doesn't have a problem with classified or top secret information.

 

[surada]

Sure they were, Trump declassified them.

Do you understand the function of read in/read out for US presidents?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Tl;dr.
Wall of text means you don't know.

Wall of text means you could not care less about the laws of the country you live in, AND even if you did read the article you would not be able to understand the content.

All of the Republicans who used to work for Trump and either walked away from his administration or came forward afterwards as witnesses as to what happened during those four years, know much more and understand much more than those, like yourself, who could not care less about the laws which are the foundation of the country you live in.

Reject all you like.

Plenty of people can read and understand what the laws of the land are, and THAT is what will make a difference during the elections. That and the SC undoing Roe vs Wade.


Stay tuned for the day after November 8th.

 

[surada]

Wall of text means you could not care less about the laws of the country you live in, AND even if you did read the article you would not be able to understand the content.

All of the Republicans who used to work for Trump and either walked away from his administration or came forward afterwards as witnesses as to what happened during those four years, know much more and understand much more than those, like yourself, who could not care less about the laws which are the foundation of the country you live in.

Reject all you like.

Plenty of people can read and understand what the laws of the land are, and THAT is what will make a difference during the elections. That and the SC undoing Roe vs Wade.


Stay tuned for the day after November 8th.

Trump can't read. He's has severe dislexia and a very short attention span.

 

[White 6]

So don't share your info with Biden. Problem solved.

Never met the guy and not planning to. I think he and his wife are carriers.

 

[jc456]

Do you understand the function of read in/read out for US presidents?

all trump had to do was say I declassify and they are declassified. Those are the rules.

Oh, and there is no consequences for them either.

Zippola. You got nothing to stand on probey

 

[Flash]

Donald Trump was warned that the records he was holding on to were illegally retained, but the former president refused to give them back because he disagreed with that assertion, a new report claims.

The New York Times reported on Tuesday that Mr Trump flat-out refused to return boxes of documents, including some that apparently were marked classified, when approached by his former deputy White House counsel, Patrick Philbin.

And he wasn’t alone – multiple other aides to the president reportedly told him the same thing. But Mr Trump resisted, telling them “it’s not theirs, it’s mine” on several occaisions, referring to the stash of documents.

The new reporting could help the Justice Department prove its case if charges are brought against him for the retention of classified materials, as it demonstrates that Mr Trump could or should have known that what he was doing was criminal in nature.

‘It’s not theirs, it’s mine’: Trump resisted advisers’ calls to return White House documents

President ignored advice from counsel to heed National Archives’ demands for records

news.yahoo.com

To be continued.......

Instead of that malarkey you posted you should have posted this:

Not Yours to Give |

Not Yours to Give​

“Mr. Speaker–I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I have never heard that the government was in arrears to him.

 

[jc456]

Trump signed it into law in 2018. It went from being a misdemeanor to being a felony.
----------


Oddly enough, one of the multiple laws covering the mishandling of government information is one that Trump himself amended during his tenure in the Oval Office, as pointed out by Tennessee state Sen. Jeff Yarbro (D) on Twitter.

Tucked into a bill Trump signed into law in January 2018 was a provision increasing the punishment for knowingly removing classified materials with the intent to retain them at an “unauthorized location.”

Trump Made It A Felony To Mishandle Classified Documents In 2018

The FBI search of the former president's Florida property was focused on mishandled presidential materials, according to reports.

news.yahoo.com

your lack of knowledge of the executive branch is noted.

 

[surada]

all trump had to do was say I declassify and they are declassified. Those are the rules.

Oh, and there is no consequences for them either.

Zippola. You got nothing to stand on probey

Nope. It's not whimsical no matter what Trump says. All the documents belong to the National Archives.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Instead of that malarkey you posted you should have posted this:

Not Yours to Give |

Not Yours to Give​

“Mr. Speaker–I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I have never heard that the government was in arrears to him.

Amazing how some people keep posting things which have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Nope. It's not whimsical no matter what Trump says. All the documents belong to the National Archives.

This is a troll. He does not believe what he is posting.
Waste of time.