"It's not theirs, Its mine"

[Sixties Fan]

This all left wing rage. Nothing else. Nada. Zero. That dog ain't huntin. They lied about fake dossiers, impeachments. Naw dude.

Not one Presidential Historian does agree with you. Not one ever will.

 

[Marener]

By "alternative facts" she meant actual facts and not the lies that progs spew.


Prove it was the Russians, douchebag.

Thanks for reading her mind. She said what she said. Her alternative facts are the lies. That’s why we have real facts.

Read the Mueller report, douchebag.

Who hacked the DNC?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Hey Rip Van Winkle, you just wake up?

The Russian Collusion scam was exposed - Hillary's own campaign manager testified in the Sussmann trial she initiated it.

The fact that the FBI defrauded the FISA Court, the fact that FBI Agent page testified the FBI ran its own internal investigation and found there was nothing to it BEFORE Mueller was appointed special counsel - it's all been documented and reported ....and links to a of this has been posted on this board dozens of times.

Either you need to stop playing 'stupid' or you need a 'cranal-anal-ectomy'.


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Is your brain full of the gas coming from that picture.

Get back to the topic of Trump saying that the documents did not belong to NARA and the government, but belonged to him.


How do Top Secret documents, still labeled as such, end up belonging to a former President, who is now a citizen like anyone else. What security clearance does he continue to have?

 

[bripat9643]

As I posted before, there was no direct collusion between the Trump Campaign with Russia, but it was found out that Russia did interfere with the 2016 election by a bipartisan committee .

Apparently you believe that matters somehow.

I am not quite sure where to put Trump asking Russia to release Hilary's emails, and the next day Russia hacking her emails. Do you? In Trump's pocket, maybe?

They didn't hack her emails the next day, if ever. Do you ever stop making shit up?

What candidate before or after would even think of asking Russia to help release someone else's emails, or documents ? I do not know of one.

Ted Kennedy. He didn't so it just in jest, as Trump did.

Teddy Kennedy used a secret message to get the Russians to intervene in Reagan’s 1984 re-election

Now don't you feel like a dumbfuck?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Not one Presidential Historian does agree with you. Not one ever will.

And they won't. The historians are liberal hack rags.

 

[bripat9643]

Is your brain full of the gas coming from that picture.

Get back to the topic of Trump saying that the documents did not belong to NARA and the government, but belonged to him.


How do Top Secret documents, still labeled as such, end up belonging to a former President, who is now a citizen like anyone else. What security clearance does he continue to have?

They weren't classified, dipshit.

 

[bripat9643]

Thanks for reading her mind. She said what she said. Her alternative facts are the lies. That’s why we have real facts.

Read the Mueller report, douchebag.

Who hacked the DNC?

Only a prog is too stupid to understand what she meant. They are deliberately stupid. That's the only way they can maintain their narrative.

Why do you even bother posting this lame shit?

 

[Marener]

Only a prog is too stupid to understand what she meant. They are deliberately stupid. That's the only way they can maintain their narrative.

Why do you even bother posting this lame shit?

Who hacked the DNC?

 

[struth]

There is NO such thing as a standing order. All who have ever worked in the White House, or know the laws and procedures do not know if to laugh or cry about this attempt to change the protocols, procedures of what Presidents have to do once they leave office if they want to declassify any documents and especially take them with them.

who told you there was no such thing as a standing order? Govt officials have standing orders all the time Definition of STANDING ORDER

 

[Sixties Fan]

And they won't. The historians are liberal hack rags.

So, everything is liberal. History, Lawyers, Judges, the courts, the FBI, the CIA, etc

Odd how it was not like that during Reagan, Bush, Sr, and Jr.

 

[struth]

He changed it in 2018. You have a 1978 code.

hahahah he didn't change the PRA to a criminal code...I provided the current code 1978 was when it was first drafted Presidential Records (44 U.S.C. Chapter 22)

Federal Criminal Code is listed in Chapter 18, not Chapter 44

 

[BluesLegend]

You do not know what is in those 27 boxes.

Classified and Top Secret documents are of no concern to you, it is for Homeland Security and keeping the country and the population safe.

Trump had them double locked in a secure storage area guarded by secret service, suck it!

 

[Lesh]

Trump had them double locked in a secure storage area guarded by secret service, suck it!

Secret Service were guarding Trump PERIOD

And that double lock was a padlock and a regular door lock.

Uuuuuu...secure...

 

[BluesLegend]

Secret Service were guarding Trump PERIOD

And that double lock was a padlock and a regular door lock.

Uuuuuu...secure...

ARMED secret service agents. Nobody could get close to those documents just admit it. There I obliterated your entire pathetic Trump rant.

 

[progressive hunter]

Right. Conceding then that Fox lies all the time.

dont be a douche,, everybody lies,,,

 

[Sixties Fan]

who told you there was no such thing as a standing order? Govt officials have standing orders all the time Definition of STANDING ORDER

Trump would have the right to declassify, while in the WH, if he took something from the Oval Office to his residence at the White House, his bedroom, etc.......not to Mar O Lago after leaving office. They cannot be in his possession without proper declassification procedure to take to Mar O Lago.
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Part 1

Apart from whether there is any evidence that such an order actually existed, the notion has been greeted with disdain by national security legal specialists. Glenn S. Gerstell, the top lawyer for the National Security Agency from 2015 to 2020, pronounced the idea that whatever Trump happened to take upstairs each evening automatically became declassified — without logging what it was and notifying the agencies that used that information — “preposterous.”

What is the classification system?

It is the administrative process by which the federal government controls how executive branch officials handle information whose potential public exposure is deemed likely to damage national security.

Officials with the authority to classify or declassify matters can deem information as falling into three categories: confidential, secret or top secret. Access to particularly sensitive information can be restricted even further with a designation of SCI, for sensitive compartmented information.

If information is classified, access to it is restricted. Any documents containing that information are supposed to be marked, and only officials with proper security clearances — and a “need to know” — are permitted to see them or be told of their contents. There are also rules limiting how they can be stored, physically transported or electronically transmitted.

The legal basis for the classification system comes from the president’s constitutional authority as commander in chief. Presidents have established and developed it through a series of executive orders dating to the era encompassing World War II and the early Cold War. The current directive, Executive Order 13526, was issued by President Barack Obama in 2009.

Presidential power to declassify information, Explained

On Friday, Trump’s office claimed that when he was president, he had a “standing order” that materials “removed from the Oval Office and taken to the residence were deemed to be declassified the moment he removed them,” according to a statement read on Fox News

indianexpress.com

 

[progressive hunter]

Secret Service were guarding Trump PERIOD

And that double lock was a padlock and a regular door lock.

Uuuuuu...secure...

the FBI was ok with it,,

 

[Sixties Fan]

Part 2

Do presidents have to obey the usual procedures?

There is no Supreme Court precedent definitively answering that question.

Even if it is true that Trump had pronounced the documents declassified while he was in office, he clearly did not follow the regular procedures.

In the unlikely event that the Justice Department were to charge him under the law that makes the unauthorized retention or removal of classified material a crime — despite not listing it as a focus of the investigation in the search warrant — a novel question would arise if Trump were then to repeat the claim as a defense.

Proponents of a strong view of presidential power have argued in other contexts that presidents are not personally bound by the rules and procedures that regulate the conduct of their subordinates in the executive branch — and that presidents can even disregard executive orders without first rescinding them. Others disagree with that vision of executive power.

The statement from Trump’s office that was read aloud by the right-wing writer, John Solomon, included what appeared to be a gesture at the claim: “The idea that some paper-pushing bureaucrat, with classification authority delegated by the president, needs to approve the declassification is absurd.”

 

[bripat9643]

Who hacked the DNC?

it was an inside job.

 

[whitehall]

You have to understand that whatever the NYT says about Trump is biased and sometimes exaggerated and distorted. The Times will cherry pick a comment and expand on it enough to skew the entire meaning of the interview. That's the way the media works these days.