It's Over

[Faun]

Everybody saying that Trump won the 2020 election is telling a lie. Anybody saying the election was stolen, is telling a lie.

He did win the election in a landslide...if you want to change my mind call for a real ballot and signature audit in every state....but I have a right to my opinion...and until your side is ready to open up the election to inspection you can't say I'm lying...I just have a different opinion from yours...same with Trump...

We don't need to audit every state. We can audit Georgia as an example to see if there is any evidence of election fraud. Since Georgia became the center of attention of voter integrity. Georgia counted, recounted, hand counted, and recounted the ballots again. And then on January 5th they did the whole thing again under the strictest scrutiny of any US election. And the results had democrats win the Georgia senate (a statewide election) by even a bigger margin than the statewide presidential election.

True...but I made my point...to call a man a liar one needs to back that up....and they won't because they can't...

Its backed up. Trump said he won the election in a landslide. He didn't. Votes were certified for Joe Biden and Joe is now president. Trump said Pence could reject the votes. No he couldn't. Another lie that lead to a mob chanting Hang Mike Pence. Give it up man. Trump is a liar and his lies have fed the trolls long enough.

His lies got people killed

He does not care

This was predicted...

"someone's gonna get killed."

 

[Faun]

Autopsy said so

LOL

Liar. Nothing on there says he died from drugs.

Cause of death: Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression

Manner of death: Homicide.

Stupid commie try reading this link.

Minnesota v. Derek Chauvin et al: The Prosecution’s Dirty Little Secret - The American Spectator | USA News and PoliticsThe American Spectator | USA News and Politics

On May 29, 2020, the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office charged former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin with third-degree murder (later raised to

spectator.org

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LOL

That's an email.

I posted the toxicology report showing he had only 11 ng/ml in his system and I posted the medical examiner's report.

 

[Faun]

Everybody saying that Trump won the 2020 election is telling a lie. Anybody saying the election was stolen, is telling a lie.

He did win the election in a landslide...if you want to change my mind call for a real ballot and signature audit in every state....but I have a right to my opinion...and until your side is ready to open up the election to inspection you can't say I'm lying...I just have a different opinion from yours...same with Trump...

We don't need to audit every state. We can audit Georgia as an example to see if there is any evidence of election fraud. Since Georgia became the center of attention of voter integrity. Georgia counted, recounted, hand counted, and recounted the ballots again. And then on January 5th they did the whole thing again under the strictest scrutiny of any US election. And the results had democrats win the Georgia senate (a statewide election) by even a bigger margin than the statewide presidential election.

True...but I made my point...to call a man a liar one needs to back that up....and they won't because they can't...

Its backed up. Trump said he won the election in a landslide. He didn't. Votes were certified for Joe Biden and Joe is now president. Trump said Pence could reject the votes. No he couldn't. Another lie that lead to a mob chanting Hang Mike Pence. Give it up man. Trump is a liar and his lies have fed the trolls long enough.

mail in ballots are fraudulent. why else won't the states let them be audited?

Then why did Trump mail in a ballot in the past?

Absentee ballots are very different than what was mailed out this time due to covid rule changes...no pre registration or time limits no address checks or signature inspections....there were millions more ballots mailed out this year and less disqualified ballots in election history....that just doesn't add up...

Imbecile, some states, like Florida, don't even have absentee ballots. Are you saying we should deduct Florida's 29 electoral votes from Trump puny total?

That's a lie.

Florida Supervisors of Elections > Home

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LOLOLOL

Dumbfuck, the word, "absentee" is found nowhere on that page.

You're such a moron.

G'head, tell me again how 11 ng/ml of Fentanyl killed George Floyd. Even oldstyle had more brains than you and ran away from that.

So you want to play a semantics game, the point is a ballot request must be made, just like most other State absentee requirements. So feel free to play your lame ass word games and acting like a fucking child, it's typical of you commies.

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LOL

I take this to mean you realize now you were wrong when called me a liar for stating Florida doesn't have absentee ballots? I'll accept that as the apology you're not man enough to post in such words.

Regardless, it's not semantics. Absentee ballots are different from mail-in ballots. And no, it's not semantics. They are different. Florida, like several other states no longer have absentee ballots. We only have mail-in ballots.

Of course, I'm telling this to the person who doesn't know the difference between ng/ml and mg. So there's that.

In FL ballots have to be requested, other States just mail out ballots willy nilly, no verification if the voter still lives at the registered address, hell some don't even check if the voter is alive. In my State to get an absentee ballot you have to go through the same procedure as FL. So yeah, you're playing word games.

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I can't help you're rightarded. An absentee ballot is still not the same as a mail-in ballot and you utterly humiliated yourself by posting a link to a website you claimed was about absentee ballots when in fact, the word, "absentee," doesn't even appear on that page -- because they're not absentee ballots.

 

[Faun]

In FL ballots have to be requested, other States just mail out ballots willy nilly, no verification if the voter still lives at the registered address,

Tens of millions voted by mail for the first time in 2020
I doubt if they want to go back to standing in line.

That train has left the station

Yep, and ballot rejection rates went from 6%, on average, to .003%. Only in a commie world would that make any sense when there were so many first timers? Statics say first timers should make more mistakes.

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There was a concerted effort to educate voters on how to properly prepare a mail in ballot. They also learned from their mistakes in the primaries

Pure commie BS. Most probably never saw ballots cast in their names.

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LOL

When a rightard says, "probably," they make up everything that follows.

 

[Faun]

Autopsy said so

LOL

Liar. Nothing on there says he died from drugs.

Cause of death: Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression

Manner of death: Homicide.

Stupid commie try reading this link.

Minnesota v. Derek Chauvin et al: The Prosecution’s Dirty Little Secret - The American Spectator | USA News and PoliticsThe American Spectator | USA News and Politics

On May 29, 2020, the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office charged former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin with third-degree murder (later raised to

spectator.org

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Where'd ya go commie, can't find a way out of the ass kicking I just gave ya?

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[Faun]

Wrong about what?! Do you honestly think that riot would have happened if it wasn’t for Trump drilling in the unsubstantiated claim that the election was being stolen from him? Be honest

I saw an interview with Sen Angus King of Maine and he talked about a law professor who used the “but for” criteria of guilt.

“But for” Trumps statements and acts, would the riots have occurred.
If Trump had accepted the results after all his legal challenges were exhausted, would the riots have occurred?

You mean if he caved to obvious fraud. You have had fours years of him. What made people think he would not fight back?

The way to fight back is in court. Not tyranny

He tried the courts. They refused to hear evidence. He is telling the truth and has more credibility than the MSM. And stop the drama. Trump did not do one thing tyrannical.

If the courts refused to hear the evidence then there was a reason for that and Trumps team should have presented better cases. But that’s how our system works. You go through the system, you don’t try and overthrow it when you’re not happy with the results. This is basic shit people. Shouldn’t be complicated to understand

If they were trying to overthrow something they wouldn't have shown up with flags and banners, they would have guns. You commie drama queens are so pathetic. I carry a pocket knife, does that mean I'm armed?

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I didn’t say they were armed. Since when does being armed set the bar for what qualifies with insurrection?! Damn your arguments are thin

Your fantastic house managers claimed they were armed. Are you saying they lied?

Did they say armed with guns? I don’t know what quote you’re talking about and I don’t see what it has to do with this discussion

Had you been listening yesterday, you'd know they did.

Ok if they said armed with guns and nobody was armed with guns then they were wrong. I didn’t hear it. What’s your point?

It's really simple, the commies are lying and their slick hollywood production is mostly fiction.

it’s not that simple. The majority of their presentation consists of videos and actual Trump statements. Can’t lie about that. Whether they called spear a and flags ‘arms’ really makes no difference to the trial.

Bullshit, out of context quotes are worthless and are used to build a false narrative.

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I’m not seeing false narratives here. I’m seeing tweets and speeches and events laid out pretty clearly. And the only defense I’m hearing from Trumps people is “he’s already out of office, this is unconstitutional” ... so weak

Yet you missed the lies about the crowd being armed with guns.

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Clubs, Bear gas and pipe bombs.

They were also adept at beating people with the American Flag

Pipe bombs in the capitol, you're such a liar.

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The only ones to bomb the capitol were commie leftist scum in 1983.

1983 United States Senate bombing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And our duly impeached scumbag Bill Clinton pardoned them.

According to rightwingnut whataboutisms, that was excusable because Nixon extended the Vietnam War.

Untrue. Nixon did not extend the war and anti-American communist sympathizers were the ones claiming he did.

LOL

There are tapes.

Nixon Prolonged Vietnam War for Political GainâAnd Johnson Knew About It, Newly Unclassified Tapes Suggest

Nixon ran on a platform that opposed the Vietnam war, but to win the election, he needed the war to continue

www.smithsonianmag.com

 

[Faun]

Autopsy said so

LOL

Liar. Nothing on there says he died from drugs.

Cause of death: Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression

Manner of death: Homicide.

Read your own cut and paste:

"Manner of death classification is a statutory function of the medical examiner,..."
"Manner of death is not a legal determination of culpability or intent, and should not be used to usurp the judicial process."

So that is what you immediately try to do.
"Homicide" is a medical term. "Murder" must be determined in a court of law.

Are you on Fentanyl? Where did I say the medical examiner's office prosecutes? I showed their report lists his death as a homicide (meaning he was killed, as opposed to suicide) and that kneeling on his neck contributed to it.

 

[Faun]

Like who?....and who says he was lying?...who is the arbiter of truth?...
Just saying he lied doesn't make it so...you must prove he lied...which I'm sure Trump would love to watch them try...that would require evidence to the contrary to be presented and no way do the guilty dems want that....

Everybody saying that Trump won the 2020 election is telling a lie. Anybody saying the election was stolen, is telling a lie.

He did win the election in a landslide...if you want to change my mind call for a real ballot and signature audit in every state....but I have a right to my opinion...and until your side is ready to open up the election to inspection you can't say I'm lying...I just have a different opinion from yours...same with Trump...

You can have whatever opinion you want but your opinions are not based on proven facts. They are based on emotional bias and lies that have been told to you by an Ex-president.

The fact is that the rules were judicially changed just before the election in favor of the Democrats and allowed for the ability to more. easily cheat. It can’t get any more factual than that.

If the rules were judicially changed then that is a legal change. The remedy is to challenge it in court or change it through legislation. Not try and overthrow the government.

But it is only your imagination that the demonstrators tried to overthrow the government.

No that’s not my imagination. There’s actually recorded video of it happening

These idiots must believe when those seditious terrorists shouted, "take the Capitol," they only meant, take pictures of the Capitol.

 

[Faun]

In FL ballots have to be requested, other States just mail out ballots willy nilly, no verification if the voter still lives at the registered address,

Tens of millions voted by mail for the first time in 2020
I doubt if they want to go back to standing in line.

That train has left the station

Yep, and ballot rejection rates went from 6%, on average, to .003%. Only in a commie world would that make any sense when there were so many first timers? Statistics say first timers should make more mistakes.

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Do you have a link to stats on that? Doesn’t sound believable unless there were large tech advances for verification

GA rejection rate in 2016 6.42%, in 2020 .35%.
AK rejection rate in 2016 3.17% in 2020 .95%

Election results, 2020: Analysis of rejected ballots

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

This is the first link that was handy, I've seen others that are different, but I'm not going to take the time to find them. You're welcome to do so.

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Ok those numbers are 100x different than you originally posted and don’t seem too out of whack when looking at the historical data of the other states. Thanks for posting the link though. I’ll give you credit for that. Doesn’t show fraud

forensic audit of ballots is needed, as I already stated in previous posts, but you all are against that, and still haven't explained why? So I interpret that as you know they are fraudulent ballots.

You lost. Get over it or eat yourself up over it. Either way, no skin off anyone's back.

 

[Faun]

T**** is clearly guilty. The Republican senators are looking pretty ugly right now.

Guilty how? Be specific. What EXACTLY did he say (word for word) that incited a riot?

He incited others to kill the VPOTUS. First he tells that mob that Pence can save the election for them ... then he tells them Pence wouldn't do it.

Then you have an angry mob calling Pence a traitor and chanting, "hang Mike Pence!"

 

[Lastamender]

In FL ballots have to be requested, other States just mail out ballots willy nilly, no verification if the voter still lives at the registered address,

Tens of millions voted by mail for the first time in 2020
I doubt if they want to go back to standing in line.

That train has left the station

Yep, and ballot rejection rates went from 6%, on average, to .003%. Only in a commie world would that make any sense when there were so many first timers? Statistics say first timers should make more mistakes.

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Do you have a link to stats on that? Doesn’t sound believable unless there were large tech advances for verification

GA rejection rate in 2016 6.42%, in 2020 .35%.
AK rejection rate in 2016 3.17% in 2020 .95%

Election results, 2020: Analysis of rejected ballots

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

This is the first link that was handy, I've seen others that are different, but I'm not going to take the time to find them. You're welcome to do so.

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Ok those numbers are 100x different than you originally posted and don’t seem too out of whack when looking at the historical data of the other states. Thanks for posting the link though. I’ll give you credit for that. Doesn’t show fraud

forensic audit of ballots is needed, as I already stated in previous posts, but you all are against that, and still haven't explained why? So I interpret that as you know they are fraudulent ballots.

Explain what you want done in your audit?

Kinematic history of the paper. It can tell you where it came from. It can tell you if it was folded or filled out by a machine. It can show you if it was misaligned and sent to adjudication. It can determine if it is a legal ballot by the codes on the ballot itself.

Plus no charge to the taxpayers, the service has been offered for free. So why no ballots? Fraud is why.

 

[Lastamender]

In FL ballots have to be requested, other States just mail out ballots willy nilly, no verification if the voter still lives at the registered address,

Tens of millions voted by mail for the first time in 2020
I doubt if they want to go back to standing in line.

That train has left the station

Yep, and ballot rejection rates went from 6%, on average, to .003%. Only in a commie world would that make any sense when there were so many first timers? Statistics say first timers should make more mistakes.

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Do you have a link to stats on that? Doesn’t sound believable unless there were large tech advances for verification

GA rejection rate in 2016 6.42%, in 2020 .35%.
AK rejection rate in 2016 3.17% in 2020 .95%

Election results, 2020: Analysis of rejected ballots

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

This is the first link that was handy, I've seen others that are different, but I'm not going to take the time to find them. You're welcome to do so.

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Ok those numbers are 100x different than you originally posted and don’t seem too out of whack when looking at the historical data of the other states. Thanks for posting the link though. I’ll give you credit for that. Doesn’t show fraud

forensic audit of ballots is needed, as I already stated in previous posts, but you all are against that, and still haven't explained why? So I interpret that as you know they are fraudulent ballots.

You lost. Get over it or eat yourself up over it. Either way, no skin off anyone's back.

It is the skin off the back of freedom around the world. If the US is not free no one is. Selfish, stupid, led by the nose bastards are to dumb to figure that out.

 

[rightwinger]

In FL ballots have to be requested, other States just mail out ballots willy nilly, no verification if the voter still lives at the registered address,

Tens of millions voted by mail for the first time in 2020
I doubt if they want to go back to standing in line.

That train has left the station

Yep, and ballot rejection rates went from 6%, on average, to .003%. Only in a commie world would that make any sense when there were so many first timers? Statistics say first timers should make more mistakes.

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Do you have a link to stats on that? Doesn’t sound believable unless there were large tech advances for verification

GA rejection rate in 2016 6.42%, in 2020 .35%.
AK rejection rate in 2016 3.17% in 2020 .95%

Election results, 2020: Analysis of rejected ballots

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

This is the first link that was handy, I've seen others that are different, but I'm not going to take the time to find them. You're welcome to do so.

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Ok those numbers are 100x different than you originally posted and don’t seem too out of whack when looking at the historical data of the other states. Thanks for posting the link though. I’ll give you credit for that. Doesn’t show fraud

forensic audit of ballots is needed, as I already stated in previous posts, but you all are against that, and still haven't explained why? So I interpret that as you know they are fraudulent ballots.

Explain what you want done in your audit?

Kinematic history of the paper. It can tell you where it came from. It can tell you if it was folded or filled out by a machine. It can show you if it was misaligned and sent to adjudication. It can determine if it is a legal ballot by the codes on the ballot itself.

Plus no charge to the taxpayers, the service has been offered for free. So why no ballots? Fraud is why.

Sounds bizarre and has no chance of exposing any voter fraud.

Mail in ballots have a bar code identifiable to a registered voter. Impossible to fake

 

[Lastamender]

In FL ballots have to be requested, other States just mail out ballots willy nilly, no verification if the voter still lives at the registered address,

Tens of millions voted by mail for the first time in 2020
I doubt if they want to go back to standing in line.

That train has left the station

Yep, and ballot rejection rates went from 6%, on average, to .003%. Only in a commie world would that make any sense when there were so many first timers? Statistics say first timers should make more mistakes.

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Do you have a link to stats on that? Doesn’t sound believable unless there were large tech advances for verification

GA rejection rate in 2016 6.42%, in 2020 .35%.
AK rejection rate in 2016 3.17% in 2020 .95%

Election results, 2020: Analysis of rejected ballots

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

This is the first link that was handy, I've seen others that are different, but I'm not going to take the time to find them. You're welcome to do so.

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Ok those numbers are 100x different than you originally posted and don’t seem too out of whack when looking at the historical data of the other states. Thanks for posting the link though. I’ll give you credit for that. Doesn’t show fraud

forensic audit of ballots is needed, as I already stated in previous posts, but you all are against that, and still haven't explained why? So I interpret that as you know they are fraudulent ballots.

Explain what you want done in your audit?

Kinematic history of the paper. It can tell you where it came from. It can tell you if it was folded or filled out by a machine. It can show you if it was misaligned and sent to adjudication. It can determine if it is a legal ballot by the codes on the ballot itself.

Plus no charge to the taxpayers, the service has been offered for free. So why no ballots? Fraud is why.

Sounds bizarre and has no chance of exposing any voter fraud.

Mail in ballots have a bar code identifiable to a registered voter. Impossible to fake

Then why are they withholding the ballots? You seem to think there is nothing to worry about, why don't your keepers?

 

[rightwinger]

In FL ballots have to be requested, other States just mail out ballots willy nilly, no verification if the voter still lives at the registered address,

Tens of millions voted by mail for the first time in 2020
I doubt if they want to go back to standing in line.

That train has left the station

Yep, and ballot rejection rates went from 6%, on average, to .003%. Only in a commie world would that make any sense when there were so many first timers? Statistics say first timers should make more mistakes.

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Do you have a link to stats on that? Doesn’t sound believable unless there were large tech advances for verification

GA rejection rate in 2016 6.42%, in 2020 .35%.
AK rejection rate in 2016 3.17% in 2020 .95%

Election results, 2020: Analysis of rejected ballots

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

This is the first link that was handy, I've seen others that are different, but I'm not going to take the time to find them. You're welcome to do so.

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Ok those numbers are 100x different than you originally posted and don’t seem too out of whack when looking at the historical data of the other states. Thanks for posting the link though. I’ll give you credit for that. Doesn’t show fraud

forensic audit of ballots is needed, as I already stated in previous posts, but you all are against that, and still haven't explained why? So I interpret that as you know they are fraudulent ballots.

Explain what you want done in your audit?

Kinematic history of the paper. It can tell you where it came from. It can tell you if it was folded or filled out by a machine. It can show you if it was misaligned and sent to adjudication. It can determine if it is a legal ballot by the codes on the ballot itself.

Plus no charge to the taxpayers, the service has been offered for free. So why no ballots? Fraud is why.

Sounds bizarre and has no chance of exposing any voter fraud.

Mail in ballots have a bar code identifiable to a registered voter. Impossible to fake

Then why are they withholding the ballots?

Because your “analysis” is ridiculous

I thought you were going to suggest something that makes sense

 

[Lastamender]

In FL ballots have to be requested, other States just mail out ballots willy nilly, no verification if the voter still lives at the registered address,

Tens of millions voted by mail for the first time in 2020
I doubt if they want to go back to standing in line.

That train has left the station

Yep, and ballot rejection rates went from 6%, on average, to .003%. Only in a commie world would that make any sense when there were so many first timers? Statistics say first timers should make more mistakes.

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Do you have a link to stats on that? Doesn’t sound believable unless there were large tech advances for verification

GA rejection rate in 2016 6.42%, in 2020 .35%.
AK rejection rate in 2016 3.17% in 2020 .95%

Election results, 2020: Analysis of rejected ballots

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

This is the first link that was handy, I've seen others that are different, but I'm not going to take the time to find them. You're welcome to do so.

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Ok those numbers are 100x different than you originally posted and don’t seem too out of whack when looking at the historical data of the other states. Thanks for posting the link though. I’ll give you credit for that. Doesn’t show fraud

forensic audit of ballots is needed, as I already stated in previous posts, but you all are against that, and still haven't explained why? So I interpret that as you know they are fraudulent ballots.

Explain what you want done in your audit?

Kinematic history of the paper. It can tell you where it came from. It can tell you if it was folded or filled out by a machine. It can show you if it was misaligned and sent to adjudication. It can determine if it is a legal ballot by the codes on the ballot itself.

Plus no charge to the taxpayers, the service has been offered for free. So why no ballots? Fraud is why.

Sounds bizarre and has no chance of exposing any voter fraud.

Mail in ballots have a bar code identifiable to a registered voter. Impossible to fake

Then why are they withholding the ballots?

Because your “analysis” is ridiculous

If it is ridiculous why hasn't it been allowed? Again, it is free and will cost the taxpayers nothing. The only reason ballots are being withheld is because authorities know they are fraudulent. Period.

Democrat's logic proves they are guilty. Trump withheld his taxes. That made him guilty. Ballots and machines withheld make those states guilty as well.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Like who?....and who says he was lying?...who is the arbiter of truth?...
Just saying he lied doesn't make it so...you must prove he lied...which I'm sure Trump would love to watch them try...that would require evidence to the contrary to be presented and no way do the guilty dems want that....

Everybody saying that Trump won the 2020 election is telling a lie. Anybody saying the election was stolen, is telling a lie.

He did win the election in a landslide...if you want to change my mind call for a real ballot and signature audit in every state....but I have a right to my opinion...and until your side is ready to open up the election to inspection you can't say I'm lying...I just have a different opinion from yours...same with Trump...

You can have whatever opinion you want but your opinions are not based on proven facts. They are based on emotional bias and lies that have been told to you by an Ex-president.

The same is true of your opinions. What makes your opinions better than his? What makes you a better judge of "proven facts" than him? What you consider fact or lie is still just your opinion. Why is your opinion somehow better?

Cause my opinions are based on reality and his are based on conspiracy theories that defy logic and reason. His opinions are also based on predictable narratives that we all saw trump setting up before the election even began. You can play the whole “how do we know anything is really real game” but it’s all BS

The truth is that no one cares about your opinions. Everybody forms their own by whatever method they choose. Other people might be interested in be the actual facts or evidence (if any) you may have used in forming yours because opinions can change as other factors change. I don't care about what you imagine to be reality. I do care about what constitutes actual reality and welcome all facts or evidence that accurately describe and define it. Again why should anyone accept that your opinions are based on logic and reason while someone elses' are not? Just demanding that it is so ain't gonna get it. That is just more BS piled higher and deeper.
And if you have video what you shows something to back your claims why haven't you linked it?

 

[MadChemist]

Those without honor and dignity have zero problems with letting off a known traitor.

Are we talking the senate or the voters who put people like Pelosi in office ?

 

[MadChemist]

Sing it, Roy.

Despite Democratic impeachment managers laying out a methodical case on Wednesday, Senate Republicans seem intent as ever on acquitting Donald Trump over his role in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Republicans Unswayed By Evidence Trump 'Incited' Mob Against U.S. Capitol

Let History judge those Republicans for their vote

But in the meantime, T**** can continue to twist arms in the Republican party like the thug he is, and Trumpism will continue unabated. That is not an acceptable outcome to me.

And you are a republican ?

 

[9thIDdoc]

Wrong about what?! Do you honestly think that riot would have happened if it wasn’t for Trump drilling in the unsubstantiated claim that the election was being stolen from him? Be honest

I saw an interview with Sen Angus King of Maine and he talked about a law professor who used the “but for” criteria of guilt.

“But for” Trumps statements and acts, would the riots have occurred.
If Trump had accepted the results after all his legal challenges were exhausted, would the riots have occurred?

You mean if he caved to obvious fraud. You have had fours years of him. What made people think he would not fight back?

The way to fight back is in court. Not tyranny

He tried the courts. They refused to hear evidence. He is telling the truth and has more credibility than the MSM. And stop the drama. Trump did not do one thing tyrannical.

If the courts refused to hear the evidence then there was a reason for that and Trumps team should have presented better cases. But that’s how our system works. You go through the system, you don’t try and overthrow it when you’re not happy with the results. This is basic shit people. Shouldn’t be complicated to understand

If they were trying to overthrow something they wouldn't have shown up with flags and banners, they would have guns. You commie drama queens are so pathetic. I carry a pocket knife, does that mean I'm armed?

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I didn’t say they were armed. Since when does being armed set the bar for what qualifies with insurrection?! Damn your arguments are thin

Your fantastic house managers claimed they were armed. Are you saying they lied?

Did they say armed with guns? I don’t know what quote you’re talking about and I don’t see what it has to do with this discussion

Had you been listening yesterday, you'd know they did.

Ok if they said armed with guns and nobody was armed with guns then they were wrong. I didn’t hear it. What’s your point?

It's really simple, the commies are lying and their slick hollywood production is mostly fiction.

it’s not that simple. The majority of their presentation consists of videos and actual Trump statements. Can’t lie about that. Whether they called spear a and flags ‘arms’ really makes no difference to the trial.

Bullshit, out of context quotes are worthless and are used to build a false narrative.

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I’m not seeing false narratives here. I’m seeing tweets and speeches and events laid out pretty clearly. And the only defense I’m hearing from Trumps people is “he’s already out of office, this is unconstitutional” ... so weak

Yet you missed the lies about the crowd being armed with guns.

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Clubs, Bear gas and pipe bombs.

They were also adept at beating people with the American Flag

Pipe bombs in the capitol, you're such a liar.

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The only ones to bomb the capitol were commie leftist scum in 1983.

1983 United States Senate bombing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And our duly impeached scumbag Bill Clinton pardoned them.

According to rightwingnut whataboutisms, that was excusable because Nixon extended the Vietnam War.

Untrue. Nixon did not extend the war and anti-American communist sympathizers were the ones claiming he did.

LOL

There are tapes.

Nixon Prolonged Vietnam War for Political GainâAnd Johnson Knew About It, Newly Unclassified Tapes Suggest

Nixon ran on a platform that opposed the Vietnam war, but to win the election, he needed the war to continue

www.smithsonianmag.com

The Paris Peace Talks were never anything other than political posturing and propaganda by all concerned as is the article you link. The war had spilled over into Laos and Cambodia years before Nixon's time.