It's Time To Hate White People Month Again

[High_Gravity]

This thread should be closed.

 

[Flagwavrusa]

The Average life expectancy on the Reservation is 46

Pine Ridge Teen suicide rate is 150 times higher than the National Average

65% of the residents of the Reservation live in sub-standard conditions such as no electricity, running water, and often, without heat

Many of the elderly (some of whom still live in sod houses) die of Hypothermia each year
Average income is $2600 to $3500

Due to lack of sustainable jobs on the Reservation, unemployment is approximately 85-95%
Infant Mortality rate is 300% above National Average

There are NO commercial, industry or technology infrastructures on the Reservation to provide employment

Diabetes is 800 times higher than the National Average

The Arrogance of Ignorance

The only cure for this dysfunctionalism is to eliminate every penny of government and charitable assistance.

 

[manifold]

Some of you really crack me up.

I honestly don't give two shits about black history, and care even less about black history month. Which of course means that it also doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's really not that hard to not watch television programming about black history or not read any articles about it. So what's the big fuck'n deal if black people, or anyone else for that matter, wants to celebrate and/or raise awareness for black history as long as you can continue, like me, to ignore it? And if you say you cannot, you're full of shit.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, any non-racist white person pissed off by black history month is harboring a guilty conscience. Seriously, why else would you give a shit?

 

[Tank]

A black family staying together, is history.

 

[bodecea]

A black family staying together, is history.

Yeah...white people are doing such a good job themselves....

 

[Paulie]

I dun even know who Kanye West is, mudwhistle. But 50 Cent is a survivor of gun violence himself and lost his mother to a gunshot wound as a teenager. He's an accomplished singer, writer, actor, businessman and designer.

I like this young man enormously.

You do realize that all that violence was because of his own choices, right?

The man was selling crack off of a 5 figure record deal advance before he hit it big.

He'd still be flipping packs on the corner and taking bullets if it weren't for becoming extremely lucky and getting signed by Eminem and Dre.

That he managed to brand his name and making millions off it is really just a by-product.

And I would not assume he figured all that out on his own, either.

I dun consider myself an expert on all things 50 Cent, Paulie. But I admire the success he has made of his life.

Well a little information goes a long way.

You think highly of him because he managed to make something of himself AFTER he caught a break.

I'm just saying, if it wasn't for that huge break he'd probably still be contributing to drug addictions in NYC ghettos and busting caps in asses.

It's EASY to do well once you become a fucking MILLIONAIRE.

 

[manifold]

You do realize that all that violence was because of his own choices, right?

The man was selling crack off of a 5 figure record deal advance before he hit it big.

He'd still be flipping packs on the corner and taking bullets if it weren't for becoming extremely lucky and getting signed by Eminem and Dre.

That he managed to brand his name and making millions off it is really just a by-product.

And I would not assume he figured all that out on his own, either.

I dun consider myself an expert on all things 50 Cent, Paulie. But I admire the success he has made of his life.

Well a little information goes a long way.

You think highly of him because he managed to make something of himself AFTER he caught a break.

I'm just saying, if it wasn't for that huge break he'd probably still be contributing to drug addictions in NYC ghettos and busting caps in asses.

It's EASY to do well once you become a fucking MILLIONAIRE.

He'll be a broke nigga in 5-10 years.

Count on it.

 

[JBeukema]

I honestly don't give two shits about black history

you racist

 

[manifold]

I honestly don't give two shits about black history

you racist

Maybe, maybe not. But unlike many others here, I don't have a guilty conscience.

 

[Wingsofwind]

Once past it, one can actually have fun with it. Seriously. I've been around and befriended so many different people of different cultures and races, I know 100% that we are all the same basically. Shitheads and Saints come from every group. It's the individual.

So, with no racial bias in me, I actually come on here to throw ridiculously racist comments around out of fun. I mean verbally, these statements are what? SOUND WAVES. I can call a man a ******, chink, wetback, cracker, slant eyes, spook, etc, etc, and what did my sound waves do to him? They don't hurt. They don't take money from him. NOTHING. Thats what.

So, out of boredom, I like to drop insane racial bombs on this forum just to see reactions. Because people who are truly past race won't be offended. Those who are most offended....are the ones who still have the most progress to make.

I hope all you ******* and faggots read that.

Just so's you know, bucs, flinging racial epiteths is not "fun". It upsets me to read them and I think it's childish of you to post them. Just as it is childish to annoy a dog on a chain "because you can".

May I suggest you find a new hobby?

Then you have not progressed past racism. Words, spoken or typed, should not offend anyone. They are harmless. Sound waves cannot hurt you. Neither can tiny bits of color on a screen that form letters.

Once race TRULY doesn't matter, it's funny. Watch the Dave Chappelle show. His mixed race audience laughs at racial humor the entire show, and it's great.

How can it offend you? Has a word done anything to you? Taken your money? Hurt you? Embarrassed you? No. It's just a word. The sooner we all get used to the idea that words don't mean shit, the quicker this racial bullshit will be behind us. People kill each other over WORDS. Sound waves. It's insanity. So, desensitize society to these sound waves. Make them mean less and less with each utterance.

So, which are you? A ******, dike, fag, whop, slant eye, cracker, wetback? Spook? Commie? Jap? Nork? Fatass? Jew? NONE of those words have hurt you or anyone else. Disgusting? Yes. Should we be offended by them? No. Now is a good time to start not giving a shit about those words anymore. It'll be step forward. Banning them or scolding people for using them only gives the words power. Take the power away. Say them. Laugh at them. STOP being offended by them. Powerless, they'll disappear.

I am a 'cracker'!

Oh, and my husband calls me a 'fatass' sometimes just for fun too.

 

[The Gadfly]

It gets old pretending a group of people have been a positive influence.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Mudwhistle,

That is quite enough; if you're not a bigot, you sure could have fooled me. FWIW, I'm Southern, White, and conservative, and if you're any of those, I consider you an embarrassment!

After seeing how some people want to obliterate the history of the South, because some of it is ugly, I am none too sympathetic toward anyone who wants to pretend anyone's history is irrelevant. I see no way I can defend the right to have my own ethnic and cultural history recognized, while insisting that someone else's be forgotten. History (all of it) has value, and that includes Black history; in fact, I see no honest way to recount the history of the South, old and recent, without it. Martin Luther King is as much a part of Southern history as Robert E. Lee. That remains true, even when a few bigots on both sides of the racial divide misuse both for hateful purposes. There's nothing on this earth that can't be put to bad use by those so inclined.

Black History Month an excuse for hating White people? Only in a handful of sick minds full of prejudice and malice. Fortunately, the vast majority of people, Black and White alike, are better than that!

 

[Grace]

Raise your hand if you really believe mudwhistle and his compadres on this thread object to Black History Month only because it does not honor Native Americans.

What? No one?

*Shocked look*

WTF??? This isn't a fucking competition, Madeline. But since you seem to think it as such, then I'm so sorry I rained on your black parade. Jeez.

 

[Wingsofwind]

Some of you really crack me up.

I honestly don't give two shits about black history, and care even less about black history month. Which of course means that it also doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's really not that hard to not watch television programming about black history or not read any articles about it. So what's the big fuck'n deal if black people, or anyone else for that matter, wants to celebrate and/or raise awareness for black history as long as you can continue, like me, to ignore it? And if you say you cannot, you're full of shit.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, any non-racist white person pissed off by black history month is harboring a guilty conscience. Seriously, why else would you give a shit?

If you have kids it is hard to just ignore it. My girls come home asking questions like 'Why don't we have a White history month?' or 'Why are we told that Whites are bad people?'.

We do not teach our kids to dislike someone because of their race. We believe it is up to them to have their own opinions about people. We try to teach them that it is the persons personality that you should consider NOT their race. However, a few Februaries ago my oldest came home from school saying she didn't like Black people. When I asked her why, she told me it is because all of them at school are mean to her. I told her that there are some that are not mean just like there are some Whites that are mean. Since then, she has become friends with a few black kids, but she still has some trouble with others. And most of the time it happens during Black history month.

 

[Ravi]

It gets old pretending a group of people have been a positive influence.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Mudwhistle,

That is quite enough; if you're not a bigot, you sure could have fooled me. FWIW, I'm Southern, White, and conservative, and if you're any of those, I consider you an embarrassment!

After seeing how some people want to obliterate the history of the South, because some of it is ugly, I am none too sympathetic toward anyone who wants to pretend anyone's history is irrelevant. I see no way I can defend the right to have my own ethnic and cultural history recognized, while insisting that someone else's be forgotten. History (all of it) has value, and that includes Black history; in fact, I see no honest way to recount the history of the South, old and recent, without it. Martin Luther King is as much a part of Southern history as Robert E. Lee. That remains true, even when a few bigots on both sides of the racial divide misuse both for hateful purposes. There's nothing on this earth that can't be put to bad use by those so inclined.

Black History Month an excuse for hating White people? Only in a handful of sick minds full of prejudice and malice. Fortunately, the vast majority of people, Black and White alike, are better than that!

This.

 

[jillian]

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Mudwhistle,

That is quite enough; if you're not a bigot, you sure could have fooled me. FWIW, I'm Southern, White, and conservative, and if you're any of those, I consider you an embarrassment!

After seeing how some people want to obliterate the history of the South, because some of it is ugly, I am none too sympathetic toward anyone who wants to pretend anyone's history is irrelevant. I see no way I can defend the right to have my own ethnic and cultural history recognized, while insisting that someone else's be forgotten. History (all of it) has value, and that includes Black history; in fact, I see no honest way to recount the history of the South, old and recent, without it. Martin Luther King is as much a part of Southern history as Robert E. Lee. That remains true, even when a few bigots on both sides of the racial divide misuse both for hateful purposes. There's nothing on this earth that can't be put to bad use by those so inclined.

Black History Month an excuse for hating White people? Only in a handful of sick minds full of prejudice and malice. Fortunately, the vast majority of people, Black and White alike, are better than that!

This.

exactly.

 

[30x90]

It gets old pretending a group of people have been a positive influence.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

After seeing how some people want to obliterate the history of the South, because some of it is ugly, I am none too sympathetic toward anyone who wants to pretend anyone's history is irrelevant. I see no way I can defend the right to have my own ethnic and cultural history recognized, while insisting that someone else's be forgotten. History (all of it) has value, and that includes Black history; in fact, I see no honest way to recount the history of the South, old and recent, without it. Martin Luther King is as much a part of Southern history as Robert E. Lee. That remains true, even when a few bigots on both sides of the racial divide misuse both for hateful purposes. There's nothing on this earth that can't be put to bad use by those so inclined.

So essentially you're saying that there should be a white history month?

Should "special interest" groups be able to forbid the use of the Confederate flag because "they" don't like it?...but it's part of our history...how can it be obliterated because negroes don't "like" it? That's dishonest.

How about this:
Since the following groups all exist for negroes, wouldn't it be fair to have parallel "white" groups?

Should there be a White Legislative Caucus?
White Entertainment Network?
White Miss America?
White Mayors Association?
National Society of White Engineers?
National Assoc. of White Journalists?
National White Nurses Assoc.?
National Organization Of Whites in Govt,?
Association of White Psychologists?
White Data Processing Associates?
National Association for the Advancement of White People?
National Association of White Accountants?
National Association of White Telecommunication Professionals?
National Organization for the Professional Advancement of White Chemists & Chemical Engineers?
National Society of White Engineers?


...etc...etc..etc...hundreds more.

Evidently there are more racist negroes based on the number of exclusively black organizations...even in government.. Isn't that a method of segregation?..to cluster around your own race and purposely exclude other races?
There certainly are NOT business, political, professional groups exclusively for white people in this country, are there?

 

[jillian]

if you use the word "negroes" and think the confederate flag should be displayed....









you might be a redneck.

 

[30x90]

if you use the word "negroes" and think the confederate flag should be displayed....









you might be a redneck.

"redneck"? Can't even get out the gate without dodging the topic and calling other people names...weak..very weak...


If you don't know that "negro" has been acceptable for hundreds of years, and if you don't know that "negro" is used on the U.S. Census as a choice for "race"...and if you don't know that "negro" is part of the "United Negro College Fund" title...(or are they "rednecks", too?),you might be too stupid to talk to.

Here, sweetie..
Here's a speech you should read...Maybe this guy is a "red neck" too?

MLK said:
I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.

Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.

But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languished in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. And so we've come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."

But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. And so, we've come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice.

We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of Now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. And those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.

But there is something that I must say to my people, who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.

The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom.

We cannot walk alone.

And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.

We cannot turn back.

There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. We cannot be satisfied as long as the negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their self-hood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating: "For Whites Only." We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."¹.....



...I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."2

This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the South with.

With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

And this will be the day -- this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning:

My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing.

Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim's pride,

From every mountainside, let freedom ring!

And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true.

And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire.

Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York.

Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania.

Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado.

Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California.

But not only that:

Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia.

Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee.

Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi.

From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

Free at last! Free at last!

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!3


Child, I was raised in that era and "negro" and "colored" are the accepted, polite terms.
Unless one is young, naive, and thoroughly indoctrinated by the media and government with decades of "white guilt" and has bought in to the "negrification" of america, there should be no problem with people using polite terms like "negro" or "colored".

Why do those terms bother you so much, anyway?


EDIT:

And give me your objections to displaying the Confederate flag, if you will?
What exactly is wrong with that?

 

[mudwhistle]

This thread should be closed.

I have a suggestion.

Quit reading it. That's easier.

Let everyone else talk about it if they want to.

This subject needs to be discussed rather then letting the status-quo remain, and the same stupid mistakes, and the same prejudices continue.

Obama's Attorney General said America is full of cowards when it comes to this topic. Well, maybe I'm trying to change that. I'm not gonna let you stop me. I'm no coward.

 

[The Gadfly]

You took the words right out of my mouth.

After seeing how some people want to obliterate the history of the South, because some of it is ugly, I am none too sympathetic toward anyone who wants to pretend anyone's history is irrelevant. I see no way I can defend the right to have my own ethnic and cultural history recognized, while insisting that someone else's be forgotten. History (all of it) has value, and that includes Black history; in fact, I see no honest way to recount the history of the South, old and recent, without it. Martin Luther King is as much a part of Southern history as Robert E. Lee. That remains true, even when a few bigots on both sides of the racial divide misuse both for hateful purposes. There's nothing on this earth that can't be put to bad use by those so inclined.

So essentially you're saying that there should be a white history month?

Should "special interest" groups be able to forbid the use of the Confederate flag because "they" don't like it?...but it's part of our history...how can it be obliterated because negroes don't "like" it? That's dishonest.

How about this:
Since the following groups all exist for negroes, wouldn't it be fair to have parallel "white" groups?

Should there be a White Legislative Caucus?
White Entertainment Network?
White Miss America?
White Mayors Association?
National Society of White Engineers?
National Assoc. of White Journalists?
National White Nurses Assoc.?
National Organization Of Whites in Govt,?
Association of White Psychologists?
White Data Processing Associates?
National Association for the Advancement of White People?
National Association of White Accountants?
National Association of White Telecommunication Professionals?
National Organization for the Professional Advancement of White Chemists & Chemical Engineers?
National Society of White Engineers?


...etc...etc..etc...hundreds more.

Evidently there are more racist negroes based on the number of exclusively black organizations...even in government.. Isn't that a method of segregation?..to cluster around your own race and purposely exclude other races?
There certainly are NOT business, political, professional groups exclusively for white people in this country, are there?

Let's look at this. First, no, I'm not suggesting a "White History Month". "World History", as taught at the public school level has been and largely still is "the history of Western civilization (which means it is for the most part a history of White Europeans, (both in Europe and on other continents). U.S. history as similarly taught, is and has been largely a history of White people in America. There's no lack of White European history; however, it's not the whole story. We need to add in the history of other regions abroad, and other races and cultures at home, if we are to have a more full and complete recounting of history.

Second, history is messy; it is not a simple morality play. We might think it convenient to selectively cut out whatever interferes with such a simplistic interpretation, but to do so is neither wise, nor truthful. Presentism (judging the actions of people of earlier times by the by our current cultural standards, rather than those of the time they lived in), is a very fashionable historical fallacy these days, but it's still a fallacy. History tells us what we have done well, and what we have done badly, and ignoring selected parts of it in order to spare any of us hurt feelings, or make ourselves feel better, defeats that purpose. Historical truth is what it is, good, bad, or even downright ugly. Whether it's the American Revolution, the War Between the States, or the Civil Rights struggle, we can find heroes and scoundrels on both sides; we can see people doing the wrong thing, for well-intended reasons, and people doing the right thing, for all the wrong reasons. Few human beings, past or present, were or are entirely angelic or demonic.

As for the Confederacy, my own ancestors were Confederate soldiers. Like their Union counterparts, most were ordinary men, caught up in a terrible war that is still a national tragedy. I admire their valor and sacrifice. Soldiers on both sides had views and beliefs I would not share today; had I lived in their time I might have been no better. That said, they are, all of them, American soldiers, and none of them deserve to be forgotten, or have their memory trashed, their graves vandalized, or their monuments torn down. The Confederate Battle Flag (the one that causes all the uproar) was a soldier's flag, not the flag of a nation; it was strictly a battlefield standard. In that respect, it is an American flag, and like Old Glory, should displayed with dignity and respect. Neither should be desecrated, neither belongs on a belt buckle, or on a shirt with questionable slogans; neither should ever be waved in anyone's face as a taunt, or be misused as an emblem of hatred. That Battle Flag is now a flag of history, and of the fallen. Leave it to the dead, to their graves and monuments; surely, if it belongs to anyone, it belongs to them. Leave it to historical ceremonies and re-enactments; that is its rightful place among the living.

As for organizations, minorities, feeling excluded from the social mainstream (often with justification), have banded together to look out for the interests of their group, when they felt no one else would. It seems a human enough thing to do, for those who feel they are still on the outside, looking in. I hope there will come a day (though I may not live to see it) when such things are no longer needed. We, as a society, are not there yet; the resentments too often expressed here show that. Maybe someday, race won't matter, but right now, it still does. In the meantime, I would ask just what harm you believe any of these organizations have done to harm you; I can't see that they have done anything to harm me.