I've heard it on here so much enough is enough

[bigrebnc1775]

First liberals on this board or some liberals claim that the founding fathers of this country were liberals. What I want to address is which liberal policy would the founders of America support?
Give their names and the policy.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

There are a couple examples that I could give as to what you're looking for, but that's not really what people mean when they say the Fathers were "liberal".

"Liberal" and "conservative" have literal meanings that are different from their current political designations.

The founding fathers were "liberal" in the sense that they were "not opposed to new ideas or ways of behaving that are not traditional or widely accepted", and not "conservative" in the sense meaning "not liking or accepting changes or new ideas."

 

[bigrebnc1775]

There are a couple examples that I could give as to what you're looking for, but that's not really what people mean when they say the Fathers were "liberal".

"Liberal" and "conservative" have literal meanings that are different from their current political designations.

The founding fathers were "liberal" in the sense that they were "not opposed to new ideas or ways of behaving that are not traditional or widely accepted", and not "conservative" in the sense meaning "not liking or accepting changes or new ideas."

That's exactly what I mean some liberals on here think the founders are equal to modern day liberals. and would support the policies of modern day liberals.

 

[Nyvin]

The founding fathers were so diverse in ideology and belief you could make a point of just about any political belief being supported by them.

Thomas Jefferson and John Adams in particular were practically political opposites.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

There are a couple examples that I could give as to what you're looking for, but that's not really what people mean when they say the Fathers were "liberal".

"Liberal" and "conservative" have literal meanings that are different from their current political designations.

The founding fathers were "liberal" in the sense that they were "not opposed to new ideas or ways of behaving that are not traditional or widely accepted", and not "conservative" in the sense meaning "not liking or accepting changes or new ideas."

That's exactly what I mean some liberals on here think the founders are equal to modern day liberals. and would support the policies of modern day liberals.

And some conservatives here think the founders are equal to modern day conservatives, and would support the policies of modern day conservatives.

Both views are idiotic.

 

[Harry Dresden]

well there was a thread here saying that ONLY Liberals of that time were for Independence not Conservatives ....they all sided with the Brits.... so i countered with....you cant tell me that many Conservatives of that time were also against the Crown and wanted Independence just as bad and so they sided with the Liberals and fought side by side....of course i was told i was full of shit.....

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The founding fathers were so diverse in ideology and belief you could make a point of just about any political belief being supported by them.

Thomas Jefferson and John Adams in particular were practically political opposites.

Would either support what the modern day liberal support?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

There are a couple examples that I could give as to what you're looking for, but that's not really what people mean when they say the Fathers were "liberal".

"Liberal" and "conservative" have literal meanings that are different from their current political designations.

The founding fathers were "liberal" in the sense that they were "not opposed to new ideas or ways of behaving that are not traditional or widely accepted", and not "conservative" in the sense meaning "not liking or accepting changes or new ideas."

That's exactly what I mean some liberals on here think the founders are equal to modern day liberals. and would support the policies of modern day liberals.

And some conservatives here think the founders are equal to modern day conservatives, and would support the policies of modern day conservatives.

Both views are idiotic.

True I call myself conservative but I don't support everything that those who call themselves conservative support and vote on. George Bush is one of them.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I'll say this the founders would be nothing like a modern day Conservative or liberal.

 

[francoHFW]

Conservatives at the time were MONARCHISTS. DEMOCRATS WERE RADICAL, LIBERAL, REVOLUTIONARIES....

aND THEY'D BE LIBERALS TODAY TOO.

''Liberals are traitors'' is over the top new bs GOP Pubcrappe. Keep it up lol...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Conservatives at the time were MONARCHISTS. DEMOCRATS WERE RADICAL, LIBERAL, REVOLUTIONARIES....

aND THEY'D BE LIBERALS TODAY TOO.

''Liberals are traitors'' is over the top new bs GOP Pubcrappe. Keep it up lol...

Hey doctor here you go.^^^^^^^^^

 

[bigrebnc1775]

One more thing about the liberals are traitors I guess you think Synthaholic is talking about drinking tea with his signature of tea is for treason? Isn't that right frances?

 

[HelenaHandbag]

There are a couple examples that I could give as to what you're looking for, but that's not really what people mean when they say the Fathers were "liberal".

"Liberal" and "conservative" have literal meanings that are different from their current political designations.

The founding fathers were "liberal" in the sense that they were "not opposed to new ideas or ways of behaving that are not traditional or widely accepted", and not "conservative" in the sense meaning "not liking or accepting changes or new ideas."

By that definition, today's liberals are some of the most un-liberal (or is that illiberal?) people you will encounter.

Given that they cling so desperately to a Medicare, Medicaid and Great Society welfare mindset stuck in the 1960s, the New Dealer quasi-socialism rooted in the 1940s, central banking and progressive income taxation rooted in the 19-teens, and an education system rooted in an early Industrial Revolution model, they look more and more like the Torries that the revolutionaries overthrew back in the 18th century.

 

[francoHFW]

A good safety net is the future, ''macho dingbats''...


As always, the hater dupes are clueless...In 1776, democracy was radical, revolutionary liberalism.

 

[AmericanFirst]

First liberals on this board or some liberals claim that the founding fathers of this country were liberals. What I want to address is which liberal policy would the founders of America support?
Give their names and the policy.

The founding fathers were mostly Christian. Benjamin Franklin was considered one of the least religous among them and he even supported prayer to God before meetings of the Constitutional Congress. The first text books in first grade circa 1776 was the New England Primer; The New England Primer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Pub dupes......

 

[AmericanFirst]

I'll say this the founders would be nothing like a modern day Conservative or liberal.

You would be correct.

 

[Vox]

First liberals on this board or some liberals claim that the founding fathers of this country were liberals. What I want to address is which liberal policy would the founders of America support?
Give their names and the policy.

Liberal does not equal leftist.

If you want to avoid the confusion - stop naming our leftard loons a.k.a. dimocraps "liberals".

They are NOT liberals. They are leftist progressives.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Some reactionaries mistakenly believe that the founders are equal to modern day far right TeaPs and reactionaries. and would support the policies of modern day reactionaries.

And don't try that TeaPs and reactionaries are "classical liberals". Nup, they are tories.

 

[tinydancer]

Before the end of the day the founding fathers as written by the newbies will be transgendered athiests who hated and despised Christians, Jews and Muslims.

When you hate God you hate these religions and more.