James Carville: I want to punch 'piece of s--t' unvaccinated people in the face

[martybegan]

Risk mitigation. Yes. Precisely. We want to mitigate the risk of COVID to transplant patients.

How is that virtue signaling? You just noted that it would mitigate risk. That’s very much a medical benefit.

No, they want to apply the Scarlet "C" to anyone who won't take an experimental vaccine.

It's a benefit to dickless ghouls like you who get to virtue signal over the death of a person who doesn't get a heart transplant.

I hope it happens to you or one of yours.

 

[colfax_m]

No, they want to apply the Scarlet "C" to anyone who won't take an experimental vaccine.

It's a benefit to dickless ghouls like you who get to virtue signal over the death of a person who doesn't get a heart transplant.

I hope it happens to you or one of yours.

You just stated a logical medical reason to require vaccination and then you snap right back to political bullshit.

Clearly this is just too emotional for you to think straight.

 

[martybegan]

You just stated a logical medical reason to require vaccination and then you snap right back to political bullshit.

Clearly this is just too emotional for you to think straight.

Because the reason he was kicked off the list was political.

Pour Encouragement les Autres.

 

[colfax_m]

Because the reason he was kicked off the list was political.

Pour Encouragement les Autres.

And you say that even though you’ve already identified a legitimate medical reason to require vaccination.

Because you just can’t understand that not everyone thinks like you.

 

[martybegan]

And you say that even though you’ve already identified a legitimate medical reason to require vaccination.

Because you just can’t understand that not everyone thinks like you.

With vaccines with decades of proven data? Sure.

For a vaccine that is based on less than a decade approved technology? No.

Aren't all these vaccines only covered under emergency or temporary approvals still anyway?

 

[colfax_m]

With vaccines with decades of proven data? Sure.

For a vaccine that is based on less than a decade approved technology? No.

Aren't all these vaccines only covered under emergency or temporary approvals still anyway?

Pfizer vaccine has full approval.

How did you arrive at the conclusion that they needed a decade of data? Sounds completely arbitrary.

To be clear, the decision to require vaccination is a judgement call, but it has a legitimate scientific rationale.

You declaring it’s political has no rationale. It’s an emotional response.

 

[martybegan]

Pfizer vaccine has full approval.

How did you arrive at the conclusion that they needed a decade of data? Sounds completely arbitrary.

To be clear, the decision to require vaccination is a judgement call, but it has a legitimate scientific rationale.

You declaring it’s political has no rationale. It’s an emotional response.

One of three. wow.

decades, to see if there are any long term effects.

Mandating is a political act, with a political rationale.

For your side, its we suck government dick, without question, and we swallow.

 

[colfax_m]

One of three. wow.

decades, to see if there are any long term effects.

Mandating is a political act, with a political rationale.

For your side, its we suck government dick, without question, and we swallow.

What is political about mandating something for the purposes of transplant listing? There’s a ton of mandates when it comes to transplant listing.

Remember, this still has nothing to do with government. It’s a private hospital.

 

[martybegan]

What is political about mandating something for the purposes of transplant listing? There’s a ton of mandates when it comes to transplant listing.

Remember, this still has nothing to do with government. It’s a private hospital.

Private, public, tomato, tomatoe.

It's still political grandstanding.

 

[colfax_m]

Private, public, tomato, tomatoe.

It's still political grandstanding.

You realize that private and public are opposites, right?

Kind of hard to be grandstanding since the hospital did not attempt to make this public whatsoever and the only reason we know about it is that the guy made it. More than likely he’s the one doing the political grandstanding.

For rational people, it’s an easy decision.

You still haven’t explained how politics is involved in it. There’s nothing political about any other mandate for transplant listing, and there are many mandates.

 

[martybegan]

You realize that private and public are opposites, right?

Kind of hard to be grandstanding since the hospital did not attempt to make this public whatsoever and the only reason we know about it is that the guy made it. More than likely he’s the one doing the political grandstanding.

For rational people, it’s an easy decision.

You still haven’t explained how politics is involved in it. There’s nothing political about any other mandate for transplant listing, and there are many mandates.

In this day of government, the media, and large businesses all toeing the progressive line, they are not.

For ghoulish hacks like you its an easy thing to cheer. His death is on you.

 

[colfax_m]

In this day of government, the media, and large businesses all toeing the progressive line, they are not.

For ghoulish hacks like you its an easy thing to cheer. His death is on you.

Am I preventing him from getting vaccinated?

 

[martybegan]

Am I preventing him from getting vaccinated?

You support their choice to kill him, you own it.

He doesn't want to, he wants a heart transplant. That will save him, not getting it will kill him.

Getting Omicron may kill him, getting the jab may kill him, getting the jab and Omicron may kill him.

 

[colfax_m]

You support their choice to kill him, you own it.

He doesn't want to, he wants a heart transplant. That will save him, not getting it will kill him.

Getting Omicron may kill him, getting the jab may kill him, getting the jab and Omicron may kill him.

He’s dying of heart failure. No one is killing him.

Lots of things could kill him. Induction immune suppression is known to cause cancer. What if he said he doesn’t want that either? Would you still give him a heart that could go to someone else?

 

[martybegan]

He’s dying of heart failure. No one is killing him.

Lots of things could kill him. Induction immune suppression is known to cause cancer. What if he said he doesn’t want that either? Would you still give him a heart?

None of those involved a CHOICE made by the doctors to delist him. Action creates responsibility.

They are killing him.

 

[colfax_m]

None of those involved a CHOICE made by the doctors to delist him. Action creates responsibility.

They are killing him.

Transplant programs decide who gets a transplant and who does. Always have.

Did you ever say they’re killing people before?

 

[martybegan]

Transplant programs decide who gets a transplant and who does. Always have.

Did you ever say they’re killing people before?

Have they removed someone from a list for a new item they added, an item that doesn't actually have anything to do with the person's disease in question?

This isn't denying a liver transplant to a continuing alcoholic, it's denying a heart to a person who was qualified one minute, then not qualified over a shot.

 

[colfax_m]

Have they removed someone from a list for a new item they added, an item that doesn't actually have anything to do with the person's disease in question?

This isn't denying a liver transplant to a continuing alcoholic, it's denying a heart to a person who was qualified one minute, then not qualified over a shot.

Requirements can and patients need annual reevaluations to remain on the list.

And yes, many of the requirements have nothing to do with the disease process.

They’ll deny people transplants who don’t have insurance. They’ll deny people who miss appointments. They’ll deny people who don’t get their teeth fixed. They’ll deny people who don’t take their meds. They’ll deny people who don’t want to get a colonoscopy to make sure they don’t have colon cancer.

The only people here making this political is you.

 

[martybegan]

Requirements can and patients need annual reevaluations to remain on the list.

And yes, many of the requirements have nothing to do with the disease process.

They’ll deny people transplants who don’t have insurance. They’ll deny people who miss appointments. They’ll deny people who don’t get their teeth fixed. They’ll deny people who don’t take their meds. They’ll deny people who don’t want to get a colonoscopy to make sure they don’t have colon cancer.

The only people here making this political is you.

Any excuse to see this guy comply or die.

 

[colfax_m]

Any excuse to see this guy comply or die.

But it’s not an excuse. It’s risk mitigation as you said.

Transplant programs routinely deny people who are too high risk.