Joe Biden claims vaccinated people cannot get or spread Covid

[marvin martian]

Clearly you don't understand immunology and epidemiology as a statistical science. It's not exclusively black or white, but always a statistically determined shade of grey.

But Cone Licker said vaccinated people cannot get or spread Covid, irrespective of location Was he wrong?

 

[meaner gene]

but, scientifically, if one can't get the virus if vaccinated, then what's the issue? You can't get passed that friend. You lose every time because you know that isn't logical.

You confuse the common vernacular. They use the term can't get, when in actually they mean there is a 94% chance you can't get the virus if vaccinated, and 98% chance of not being hospitalized if you get it.

 

[meaner gene]

But Cone Licker said vaccinated people cannot get or spread Covid, irrespective of location Was he wrong?

As I said, that statement is both true and false, based on the local infection rate. And since the science is statistically based, the statement is certainly more true than not. And you're taking a statistical probability as being an absolute.

 

[Lastamender]

Is he right? If so, this pandemic is over, and there should be no more masks, social distancing, or lockdowns of any kind, anywhere.

Just posted that in the Biden thread.

 

[Lastamender]

You confuse the common vernacular. They use the term can't get, when in actually they mean there is a 94% chance you can't get the virus if vaccinated, and 98% chance of not being hospitalized if you get it.

Says who? You can trust no one. I say we err on the side of personal freedom.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You confuse the common vernacular. They use the term can't get, when in actually they mean there is a 94% chance you can't get the virus if vaccinated, and 98% chance of not being hospitalized if you get it.

^^^^


There is a nearly 100% chance you can get the virus after vaccination/contraction.
The effect of the vaccine - indeed, the effect of your immune system after any illness - is to reduce the effect of the virus after contracting it.

It is -entirely- possible that vaccinated/immune people contracted the virus sevral times afer their vaccination/illness -- but their immune sytem took care of it before they showed symptoms.

 

[meaner gene]

It is -entirely- possible that vaccinated/immune people contracted the virus sevral times afer their vaccination/illness -- but their immune sytem took care of it before they showed symptoms.

Indeed it's almost certain that our bodies are bombarded by viruses, bacteria and parasites on a constant basis. And our immune system is constantly fighting the invasion.

With disease or symptoms only occurring when the bodies defenses are either unprepared, or overwhelmed by the number of invading bodies.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Indeed it's almost certain that our bodies are bombarded by viruses, bacteria and parasites on a constant basis. And our immune system is constantly fighting the invasion.

And so, you understand your "there is a 94% chance you can't get the virus if vaccinated," statement is in error.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Wow, DR ROBINETTE BIDEN CLAIMS anyone who gets the Fauci Ouchy is protected from getting COVID and cannot spread it to you.

Amazing.

 

[jc456]

You confuse the common vernacular. They use the term can't get, when in actually they mean there is a 94% chance you can't get the virus if vaccinated, and 98% chance of not being hospitalized if you get it.

You move the illogical goal posts all the time. BTW, there's only a 99.78% chance for a nonvaccinated person. hmmmmm strange.

 

[ColonelAngus]

You move the illogical goal posts all the time. BTW, there's only a 99.78% chance for a nonvaccinated person. hmmmmm strange.

Pfizer is trying to slam their needles into 5-11 year olds....

I am SURE it isn't REVENUE driven!

 

[meaner gene]

And so, you understand your "there is a 94% chance you can't get the virus if vaccinated," statement is in error.

You're arguing over definition. You could say that vaccination or natural immunity doesn't prevent the body getting invaded, since that's a purely mechanical function. But you would be hard pressed to address testing for the presence of any invading organism below a certain threshold. And as such, proving one way or the other if somebody has gotten infected.

 

[meaner gene]

You move the illogical goal posts all the time. BTW, there's only a 99.78% chance for a nonvaccinated person. hmmmmm strange.

There are a lot of constantly changing numbers. So don't cling to 99.78% being even remotely true.

 

[Orangecat]

The problem is that that statement is true in some parts of the country, and not true in others.

What part of the country is it where vaccinated people can't become infected and can't transmit the virus to others? Do you think the virus knows what geographical location it's at?

 

[M14 Shooter]

You're arguing over definition.

No. I'm arguing over your false statement,
Did you know your statemenr was false when you made it?

 

[jc456]

There are a lot of constantly changing numbers. So don't cling to 99.78% being even remotely true.

why, that's the stat. show me different numbers. again, you move goal posts because you got nothing to back your nonsense.

 

[meaner gene]

What part of the country is it where vaccinated people can't become infected and can't transmit the virus to others? Do you think the virus knows what geographical location it's at?

In areas where the infection rate is so low that they can't become infected.

 

[jc456]

In areas where the infection rate is so low that they can't become infected.

again, you must have those goal posts on ice and just sliding them around. hahahahahahahahahahahaha. As the cartoon told George in George of the jungle, watch out for that TREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeee

 

[meaner gene]

No. I'm arguing over your false statement,
Did you know your statemenr was false when you made it?

A statement is only false if it is proven false. You are claiming a status based on it being in a grey area which can't differentiate into a binary.

 

[marvin martian]

In areas where the infection rate is so low that they can't become infected.

Such as?