Joe Biden takes sides against Hyde amendment

[rightwinger]

That is exactly what Republicans are doing in Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana and Missouri

In some very conservative states, yes. And I expect those to backtrack at least a bit due to public pressure from Reublicans in their states. You don't find any Republicans in Congress suggesting any kind of ban on abortion.

But Republicans and Democrats were standing unified shoulder to shoulder on the Hyde Amendment since 1976--passed in the Ford Administration--UNTIL this current crop of radical socialist/Marxist grabbed control of the Democrat Party and made that a policy plank. And that will likely force Republicans further to the right to combat it.

And that is sad.

It's really sad.

Up until now Republicans claimed they had no intention of repealing Roe v Wade and supported abortion in cases of rape or incest
Dems have claimed Republicans want to repeal Roe v Wade and force women to bear children from rape

Republicans laughed and said they would never do that

In 2020 it is obvious they will

How do you "repeal" a law that never existed?

Roe v Wade is the law of the land

Which house or senate bill is that from? Which president signed it into law?

SCOTUS has determined it a Constitutional right

Why don’t you look into checks and balances ?

 

[Foxfyre]

That is exactly what Republicans are doing in Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana and Missouri

In some very conservative states, yes. And I expect those to backtrack at least a bit due to public pressure from Reublicans in their states. You don't find any Republicans in Congress suggesting any kind of ban on abortion.

But Republicans and Democrats were standing unified shoulder to shoulder on the Hyde Amendment since 1976--passed in the Ford Administration--UNTIL this current crop of radical socialist/Marxist grabbed control of the Democrat Party and made that a policy plank. And that will likely force Republicans further to the right to combat it.

And that is sad.

It's really sad.

Up until now Republicans claimed they had no intention of repealing Roe v Wade and supported abortion in cases of rape or incest
Dems have claimed Republicans want to repeal Roe v Wade and force women to bear children from rape

Republicans laughed and said they would never do that

In 2020 it is obvious they will

How do you "repeal" a law that never existed?

Good point. Roe v Wade was a SCOTUS OPINION that Congress elected to regard as law.
There's only three ways to reverse it:

1. Congress specifically writes a law governing abortion which they have no Constitutional authority to do.

2. SCOTUS reverses itself and that reversal is regarded as law.

3. Stop giving the courts authority to change or write any law and state that only Congress can make laws that affect the people of the land. Which is what the Constitution specifies.

The FEAR of the abortion industrial complex is that a case such as the challenge to Georgia will cause a more law abiding court to vacate the patently illegal Roe ruling. I don't think Kavanaugh has the moral fortitude. We know that Roberts will stand with abortion. If Ginsburg kicks the bucket that could make it a draw, IF Kavanuagh supports the Constitution. Roberts and the other liberals against the 4 conservatives.

The issue with abortion should be with the states period. The U.S. Constitution gives no authority of any sort to the U.S. government to dictate social policy of any kind.

And I trust the American people to step up and settle on a humane, sensible, practical, ethical, moral policy on abortion which would not include a complete ban anywhere--the more draconian state laws re abortion are not likely to endure for long because I think the people will demand a more balanced approach. But even if they do, the vast majority of states won't adopt so restrictive a policy. But many will put reasonable restrictions on abortion on demand because that is where the majority of Americans are on the issue.

So even if SCOTUS eventually does rule that the language of Roe V Wade is reasonable, but the decision for abortion laws belongs with the states, I think the vast majority of Republicans and all reasonable Democrats will be satisfied with that ruling.

And then maybe Congress will shut up about it and get back to the business they should be doing. We can only hope.

 

[Foxfyre]

In some very conservative states, yes. And I expect those to backtrack at least a bit due to public pressure from Reublicans in their states. You don't find any Republicans in Congress suggesting any kind of ban on abortion.

But Republicans and Democrats were standing unified shoulder to shoulder on the Hyde Amendment since 1976--passed in the Ford Administration--UNTIL this current crop of radical socialist/Marxist grabbed control of the Democrat Party and made that a policy plank. And that will likely force Republicans further to the right to combat it.

And that is sad.

It's really sad.

Up until now Republicans claimed they had no intention of repealing Roe v Wade and supported abortion in cases of rape or incest
Dems have claimed Republicans want to repeal Roe v Wade and force women to bear children from rape

Republicans laughed and said they would never do that

In 2020 it is obvious they will

How do you "repeal" a law that never existed?

Roe v Wade is the law of the land

Which house or senate bill is that from? Which president signed it into law?

SCOTUS has determined it a Constitutional right

Why don’t you look into checks and balances ?

SCOTUS had no authority to declare it a Constitution right when there is nothing in the Constitution that supports it.

 

[Polishprince]

In some very conservative states, yes. And I expect those to backtrack at least a bit due to public pressure from Reublicans in their states. You don't find any Republicans in Congress suggesting any kind of ban on abortion.

But Republicans and Democrats were standing unified shoulder to shoulder on the Hyde Amendment since 1976--passed in the Ford Administration--UNTIL this current crop of radical socialist/Marxist grabbed control of the Democrat Party and made that a policy plank. And that will likely force Republicans further to the right to combat it.

And that is sad.

It's really sad.

Up until now Republicans claimed they had no intention of repealing Roe v Wade and supported abortion in cases of rape or incest
Dems have claimed Republicans want to repeal Roe v Wade and force women to bear children from rape

Republicans laughed and said they would never do that

In 2020 it is obvious they will

How do you "repeal" a law that never existed?

Roe v Wade is the law of the land

Which house or senate bill is that from? Which president signed it into law?

SCOTUS has determined it a Constitutional right

Why don’t you look into checks and balances ?

That doesn't mean that the Abortion Trade should not be subject to Common Sense Regulations

Really, its up to the libs to do that now, propose common sense regulations.

 

[Geaux4it]

He's flipping like Obama did on gay marriage. They don't actually believe in it, just responding to their marching orders from SOROS

-Geaux

 

[Foxfyre]

He's flipping like Obama did on gay marriage. They don't actually believe in it, just responding to their marching orders from SOROS

-Geaux

Agree that they say stuff that will get them elected and then put that stuff on the shelf once they are safely in office. Not sure Soros can be blamed for much of that though.

The reason President Trump was elected, despite all the personal baggage, is because he convinced us that he was not that kind of candidate. He presented a vision we could embrace on at least most fronts, and convinced us that he was neither partisan nor professional politician nor member of the permanent political class and he would do his very best to achieve that vision.

He for the most part has not disappointed.

 

[Geaux4it]

He's flipping like Obama did on gay marriage. They don't actually believe in it, just responding to their marching orders from SOROS

-Geaux

Agree that they say stuff that will get them elected and then put that stuff on the shelf once they are safely in office. Not sure Soros can be blamed for much of that though.

The reason President Trump was elected, despite all the personal baggage, is because he convinced us that he was not that kind of candidate. He presented a vision we could embrace on at least most fronts, and convinced us that he was neither partisan nor professional politician nor member of the permanent political class and he would do his very best to achieve that vision.

He for the most part has not disappointed.

Yep, another example Mrs Tonto Warren talking yesterday about Economic Nationalism.... say what? Sounds like she was putting America first like POTUS

-Geaux

 

[mudwhistle]

That's fake.
Republicans aren't going to ban abortion.
If they tried I wouldn't vote for them.
That's like shooting yourself in the foot....and only Democrats are good at doing that.

That is exactly what Republicans are doing in Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana and Missouri

In some very conservative states, yes. And I expect those to backtrack at least a bit due to public pressure from Reublicans in their states. You don't find any Republicans in Congress suggesting any kind of ban on abortion.

But Republicans and Democrats were standing unified shoulder to shoulder on the Hyde Amendment since 1976--passed in the Ford Administration--UNTIL this current crop of radical socialist/Marxist grabbed control of the Democrat Party and made that a policy plank. And that will likely force Republicans further to the right to combat it.

And that is sad.

It's really sad.

Up until now Republicans claimed they had no intention of repealing Roe v Wade and supported abortion in cases of rape or incest
Dems have claimed Republicans want to repeal Roe v Wade and force women to bear children from rape

Republicans laughed and said they would never do that

In 2020 it is obvious they will

Is it? I am not seeing it.

Democrats have been accusing Republicans of wanting to repeal Roe v Wade for decades now and indeed a few Republicans here and there express their intention to do that, but it hasn't happened yet. And I don't see that the landscape for Republicans will have changed that much by next year either.

2020 will draw a line in the sand

It is now clear that Republicans are pushing for repeal
A candidate may claim.....not me
But he is still Republican

You're just trying to bring back the female vote with a hoax.

I'm waiting for you libroids to start some racist BS now.

 

[Uncensored2008]

In some very conservative states, yes. And I expect those to backtrack at least a bit due to public pressure from Reublicans in their states. You don't find any Republicans in Congress suggesting any kind of ban on abortion.

But Republicans and Democrats were standing unified shoulder to shoulder on the Hyde Amendment since 1976--passed in the Ford Administration--UNTIL this current crop of radical socialist/Marxist grabbed control of the Democrat Party and made that a policy plank. And that will likely force Republicans further to the right to combat it.

And that is sad.

It's really sad.

Up until now Republicans claimed they had no intention of repealing Roe v Wade and supported abortion in cases of rape or incest
Dems have claimed Republicans want to repeal Roe v Wade and force women to bear children from rape

Republicans laughed and said they would never do that

In 2020 it is obvious they will

How do you "repeal" a law that never existed?

Roe v Wade is the law of the land

Which house or senate bill is that from? Which president signed it into law?

SCOTUS has determined it a Constitutional right

Why don’t you look into checks and balances ?

So it is a law created from thin air by the judicial branch?

Hmmmmm


Section 1
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Am I missing where it says "oh, and the judicial branch has legislative powers beyond these lesser branches" ?

So a scofflaw court crafted law in violation of the United States Constitution without the need for the checks and balances of actual legislation.

I can see where there is concern by the abortion industrial complex.

 

[rightwinger]

Up until now Republicans claimed they had no intention of repealing Roe v Wade and supported abortion in cases of rape or incest
Dems have claimed Republicans want to repeal Roe v Wade and force women to bear children from rape

Republicans laughed and said they would never do that

In 2020 it is obvious they will

How do you "repeal" a law that never existed?

Roe v Wade is the law of the land

Which house or senate bill is that from? Which president signed it into law?

SCOTUS has determined it a Constitutional right

Why don’t you look into checks and balances ?

SCOTUS had no authority to declare it a Constitution right when there is nothing in the Constitution that supports it.

Of course they did

The decision has stood for 45 years

 

[rightwinger]

Up until now Republicans claimed they had no intention of repealing Roe v Wade and supported abortion in cases of rape or incest
Dems have claimed Republicans want to repeal Roe v Wade and force women to bear children from rape

Republicans laughed and said they would never do that

In 2020 it is obvious they will

How do you "repeal" a law that never existed?

Roe v Wade is the law of the land

Which house or senate bill is that from? Which president signed it into law?

SCOTUS has determined it a Constitutional right

Why don’t you look into checks and balances ?

So it is a law created from thin air by the judicial branch?

Hmmmmm


Section 1
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Am I missing where it says "oh, and the judicial branch has legislative powers beyond these lesser branches" ?

So a scofflaw court crafted law in violation of the United States Constitution without the need for the checks and balances of actual legislation.

I can see where there is concern by the abortion industrial complex.

Marbury v Madison has stood for 200 years

 

[rightwinger]

That is exactly what Republicans are doing in Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana and Missouri

In some very conservative states, yes. And I expect those to backtrack at least a bit due to public pressure from Reublicans in their states. You don't find any Republicans in Congress suggesting any kind of ban on abortion.

But Republicans and Democrats were standing unified shoulder to shoulder on the Hyde Amendment since 1976--passed in the Ford Administration--UNTIL this current crop of radical socialist/Marxist grabbed control of the Democrat Party and made that a policy plank. And that will likely force Republicans further to the right to combat it.

And that is sad.

It's really sad.

Up until now Republicans claimed they had no intention of repealing Roe v Wade and supported abortion in cases of rape or incest
Dems have claimed Republicans want to repeal Roe v Wade and force women to bear children from rape

Republicans laughed and said they would never do that

In 2020 it is obvious they will

Is it? I am not seeing it.

Democrats have been accusing Republicans of wanting to repeal Roe v Wade for decades now and indeed a few Republicans here and there express their intention to do that, but it hasn't happened yet. And I don't see that the landscape for Republicans will have changed that much by next year either.

2020 will draw a line in the sand

It is now clear that Republicans are pushing for repeal
A candidate may claim.....not me
But he is still Republican

You're just trying to bring back the female vote with a hoax.

I'm waiting for you libroids to start some racist BS now.

Women are seeing that forcing women to bear the children of rape and incest is no longer a myth
Republicans are actively pursuing it

 

[EvilCat Breath]

60 million abortions. There haven't been 60 million rapes or 60 million acts of incest. Rape and incest have always been the excuse to sell abortion as vitally necessary.

 

[rightwinger]

60 million abortions. There haven't been 60 million rapes or 60 million acts of incest. Rape and incest have always been the excuse to sell abortion as vitally necessary.

It was always accepted that rape and incest were grounds for abortion

Republicans have changed that

Let them run on it in 2020

 

[EvilCat Breath]

60 million abortions. There haven't been 60 million rapes or 60 million acts of incest. Rape and incest have always been the excuse to sell abortion as vitally necessary.

It was always accepted that rape and incest were grounds for abortion

Republicans have changed that

Let them run on it in 2020

Do you really believe that all 60 million abortions were because of rape and incest? Democrats over reached. They have crossed the umbilical cord into infanticide. Let them run on that in 2020.

 

[rightwinger]

60 million abortions. There haven't been 60 million rapes or 60 million acts of incest. Rape and incest have always been the excuse to sell abortion as vitally necessary.

It was always accepted that rape and incest were grounds for abortion

Republicans have changed that

Let them run on it in 2020

Do you really believe that all 60 million abortions were because of rape and incest? Democrats over reached. They have crossed the umbilical cord into infanticide. Let them run on that in 2020.

Please work on improving your reading comprehension skills

 

[Edgetho]

Biden never had a chance. He is the only living person on the Planet that was ticketed for driving without a personality.

He's a stalking horse for the dimocrap scum party.

Amy Klobuchar will take the nomination. And she will be very dangerous.

Believe it. I am hardly ever wrong on these matters.

 

[MisterBeale]

Biden will make abortion a pivotal issue in the 2020 election

Republicans will be for complete appeal of abortion in all cases
Biden will support Government funding of abortion

It has been 45 years coming but we finally have a showdown on abortion

Joe Biden: Inside his abortion stance reversal - CNNPolitics

Biden wants Catholics, Muslims, and Orthodox Jews to pay for the abortions of sinners and atheists?


Is he suicidal? Is he drunk?

WTH?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Up until now Republicans claimed they had no intention of repealing Roe v Wade and supported abortion in cases of rape or incest
Dems have claimed Republicans want to repeal Roe v Wade and force women to bear children from rape

Republicans laughed and said they would never do that

In 2020 it is obvious they will

How do you "repeal" a law that never existed?

Roe v Wade is the law of the land

Which house or senate bill is that from? Which president signed it into law?

SCOTUS has determined it a Constitutional right

Why don’t you look into checks and balances ?

SCOTUS had no authority to declare it a Constitution right when there is nothing in the Constitution that supports it.

Abortion was never declared a constitutional right. Roe v Wade didn't do it.

The right to privacy is not in the constitution. SCOTUS declared the right to privacy is a penumbral right flowing from constitutional rights already granted. Abortion was held to be a private decision between a woman and her doctor thereby receiving constitutional protection. This can be challenged many ways.

 

[MisterBeale]

Let’s see how it goes

2020 will be on Republican repeal of Roe v Wade
Let’s see how Trump does with the women’s vote

That's fake.
Republicans aren't going to ban abortion.
If they tried I wouldn't vote for them.
That's like shooting yourself in the foot....and only Democrats are good at doing that.

That is exactly what Republicans are doing in Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana and Missouri

In some very conservative states, yes. And I expect those to backtrack at least a bit due to public pressure from Reublicans in their states. You don't find any Republicans in Congress suggesting any kind of ban on abortion.

But Republicans and Democrats were standing unified shoulder to shoulder on the Hyde Amendment since 1976--passed in the Ford Administration--UNTIL this current crop of radical socialist/Marxist grabbed control of the Democrat Party and made that a policy plank. And that will likely force Republicans further to the right to combat it.

And that is sad.

It's really sad.

Up until now Republicans claimed they had no intention of repealing Roe v Wade and supported abortion in cases of rape or incest
Dems have claimed Republicans want to repeal Roe v Wade and force women to bear children from rape

Republicans laughed and said they would never do that

In 2020 it is obvious they will

Is it? I am not seeing it.

Democrats have been accusing Republicans of wanting to repeal Roe v Wade for decades now and indeed a few Republicans here and there express their intention to do that, but it hasn't happened yet. And I don't see that the landscape for Republicans will have changed that much by next year either.

Yeah, I always tell my hyperbolic lefty friends, they have nothing to worry about if any of these State laws go before the SCOTUS. I remind them that it was a conservative SCOTUS that gave us Roe V. Wade, and it is the conservatives that protect individual liberties and rights to begin with.

THANK THEM for the civil rights era and the protection of the bill of rights. Not the left which always rules in favor of the government and the corporations.


The right to privacy came from the right. States rights and individual liberties are always protected by CONSERVATIVE jurors.