Joe Biden's Abortion Platform--what is it?

[Lysistrata]

Let's see let white man be the judge of whether or not to bring a six week pregnancy to term. Women tend to take stock of their situation. Will the father be made to pay child support and will I receive it? Probably not. Should I bring it to term and give it up for adoption? I mean the father doesn't care why should the woman? No I wouldn't bring it to term and give it away just make some white man happy and some child sad. Does the man love me and the fact I'm pregnant? No it was his suggestion to have the abortion. Who picks up the tab for that? Women. Also I have a hereditary disease do I want to pass that along? No Is vasectomy the same thing? Yes. All those sperm that weren't allowed to live. Poor babies.

After they take stock of the situation, they choose to abort. What is so God awful about that?

Even if every pregnancy is brought to term, these guys never say how they will raise it up to adulthood. Food has got to be brought to an infant's mouth. A child must be bathed and dressed. A child must be cared for through the childhood diseases. All up to the teen years, taught even how to drive a car.

These guys who insist that every pregnancy be brought to term never offer any suggestion as to how they will accomplish all of this. Even if they can force a woman to give birth, what next? What happens when the woman walks out of the hospital. She has done with her body what the white man, her master, commands,. I take it that these men will scoop up these infants and take them home and raise them.
To all the "pro-life" men out there: the hole in the baby's face is known as a mouth. It's where the food goes.If the infant urinates or poops, it's time for a clean-up and a fresh diaper.

 

[Dragonlady]

Joe Biden's Abortion Platform--what is it?

If he doesn't want one he won't have one?

The CNN article said he made no apologies for his old position and would not apologize for his new one, either. That's why I'm confused.

How can a man who's opposed abortion for life suddenly go with feminist rights over their body, which is death for the unborn so far. I'm not getting this one, cnm which is why I started this thread.

Edit: It's like this meme sez:

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Biden never opposed abortion. He opposed "federal funding" for abortions. It was a sop to the religious right.

 

[Dragonlady]

No tramp is a tramp because he is serial adulter and a serial female assaulter and does anything for a buck. That is the definition of a slut, he gives women a bad name, as some need to do it to make a buck, like Stormy and the playboy bunny.

Your opinion does not mean shit to me, the only thing you can be in a democracy is pro choice.

You are probably pro the handmaidens tale and wish it would be that way in the US.

The adultery thing didn't seem to bother you about Clinton. Clinton cheated on his wife both with and without the permission of a large number of women than has come under public scrutiny. The difference between Trump and Clinton is that Trump is sorry for his behavior, and Clinton didn't give a rat's patoot about his infidelities as he arrogantly denied affairs until he left office when his admission to lying about his girlfriend of 10 years (Jennifer Flowers) came about, after he and Hillary used their "War room" to invent lies about her and other women he sexually used for his pleasure. Several women accused him of rape after they told him no. The entire Democrat Party ignored Clinton's indiscretion in order to keep the power they lusted for. And this nation now has a Democrat House Leader who told people she is the most powerful woman in the world because she lusted for and got leadership in the House which means she is third in line to become the President. And her Democrat Party stood behind her while undermining President Trump and his Vice-President Pence in order that they could destroy the presidency but replace them with Nancy Pelosi who is the soul of corruption in this country.

I'm really not sure what you're trying to say here about Bill Clinton, but Clinton's hound dog behaviour is really non of my business because I'm not married to him. The only woman who needed to give permission was Hillary, and she seems to be OK with it, and the sleazy women he had sex with. There were no shortage of them.

You seem to have no problems with Trump's serial infidelity, sex with porn stars and admission of sexually assaulting women. Two women, including his ex-wife have said that Trump viciously beat and raped them. More than 20 women have accused Trump of sexual assault.

 

[Dragonlady]

Whether to carry a pregnancy to term or not is a private matter to be determined by the beliefs of the woman involved, not a matter of government concern. I think that Biden knows this. It is not the place of government to force ideological/religious beliefs on the people,

Studies have shown that "unwanted" children have higher rates of juvenile delinquency, lower rates of education, and do much less well in life than children who are wanted. By forcing women to have babies, you're creating the new dregs of society. Those who would force a woman to give birth to a child they can't afford, are never better off for having done so, and neither are the babies:

When women are denied an abortion, their children fare worse than peers

Women who are denied abortions face diminished opportunities to achieve other life goals, gain secure financial footing, and have a child or children she can support and cherish.

www.statnews.com

Children need a lot more than existence to thrive - physically and emotionally. I poor mother with no resources and no ability to care for a child, is a very poor mother. Children deserve to be wanted, loved, and their parents need the resources to care for them.

 

[Lysistrata]

Infants need love first. I stumbled on the list that the hospital demanded before it would release me to my dad and mom.. It was quite a list. And they took their six-pounder home and did it.

 

[SaxxyBlues]

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Because of democrats like you.

Naw, man, we'd make sure the rich paid their fair share.

Point is, Abortion was legalized by Republicans and upheld by Republicans for 50 years.... they just want to keep stupid people mad about it.

Taxing people for more money than their Social Security can furnish for living expenses (edit: including local taxes) is over the top, no matter what their savings and other assets amount to that belongs to their childrens' inheritance is. Social Security takes money out of people's paychecks for life and has been squandered by the very organization of people who pledged that they would never touch the Social Security funds--the organization being the Congress that renegged on its initial pledge to leave the money alone to draw interest in behalf of the American Taxpayers who had no choice but to have the funds taken out of their paychecks for life and now, for generations.

Do you honestly think there is a room some where that these funds sit drawing interest? Any excess funds beyond paying the retirees, are loaned out to the federal government and accounted for at the prevailing interest rate. They do not spend more than they take in, an it is really far from it! The amount getting loaned to the government is getting smaller.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Whether to carry a pregnancy to term or not is a private matter to be determined by the beliefs of the woman involved, not a matter of government concern. I think that Biden knows this. It is not the place of government to force ideological/religious beliefs on the people,

Studies have shown that "unwanted" children have higher rates of juvenile delinquency, lower rates of education, and do much less well in life than children who are wanted. By forcing women to have babies, you're creating the new dregs of society. Those who would force a woman to give birth to a child they can't afford, are never better off for having done so, and neither are the babies:

When women are denied an abortion, their children fare worse than peers

Women who are denied abortions face diminished opportunities to achieve other life goals, gain secure financial footing, and have a child or children she can support and cherish.

www.statnews.com

Children need a lot more than existence to thrive - physically and emotionally. I poor mother with no resources and no ability to care for a child, is a very poor mother. Children deserve to be wanted, loved, and their parents need the resources to care for them.

Adoption works.

Where are all of the homes babies awaiting adoption?

 

[Chuz Life]

Abortion is the single most polarizing issue in America. There are more single-issue voters for this than anything else. But let me ask you pro-lifers a serious question. If your daughter was raped and subsequently impregnated, would you then support abortion to prevent untold misery and suffering of both daughter and her child?

I would love to have an open, in depth, constitutionally based discussion with you, on the rape exception to a ban on abortions. I welcome that discussion with any other proaborts, for that matter.

On only one condition.

You must first admit (as I do) that an abortion at ANY stage of gestation, involves the killing of a child.

If we can not first agree that an abortion kills a child, there is no use in discussing or debating any of the other aspects about it.

Any takers?

 

[Mr Natural]

Joe Biden's Abortion Platform--what is it?

Don't know, don't care.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No tramp is a tramp because he is serial adulter and a serial female assaulter and does anything for a buck. That is the definition of a slut, he gives women a bad name, as some need to do it to make a buck, like Stormy and the playboy bunny.

Your opinion does not mean shit to me, the only thing you can be in a democracy is pro choice.

You are probably pro the handmaidens tale and wish it would be that way in the US.

The adultery thing didn't seem to bother you about Clinton. Clinton cheated on his wife both with and without the permission of a large number of women than has come under public scrutiny. The difference between Trump and Clinton is that Trump is sorry for his behavior, and Clinton didn't give a rat's patoot about his infidelities as he arrogantly denied affairs until he left office when his admission to lying about his girlfriend of 10 years (Jennifer Flowers) came about, after he and Hillary used their "War room" to invent lies about her and other women he sexually used for his pleasure. Several women accused him of rape after they told him no. The entire Democrat Party ignored Clinton's indiscretion in order to keep the power they lusted for. And this nation now has a Democrat House Leader who told people she is the most powerful woman in the world because she lusted for and got leadership in the House which means she is third in line to become the President. And her Democrat Party stood behind her while undermining President Trump and his Vice-President Pence in order that they could destroy the presidency but replace them with Nancy Pelosi who is the soul of corruption in this country.

I never voted for Clinton. See I use to be a republican although I never voted for Bush Jr. I voted for McCain and in 2012 I voted for Obama, after I seen the way the republicans acted to have a black skinned Pres in the white house. Now the republicans have fully gone rogue.

But I have always been pro choice.

So you have always been a moron! Thanks for admitting it!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No tramp is a tramp because he is serial adulter and a serial female assaulter and does anything for a buck. That is the definition of a slut, he gives women a bad name, as some need to do it to make a buck, like Stormy and the playboy bunny.

Your opinion does not mean shit to me, the only thing you can be in a democracy is pro choice.

You are probably pro the handmaidens tale and wish it would be that way in the US.

The adultery thing didn't seem to bother you about Clinton. Clinton cheated on his wife both with and without the permission of a large number of women than has come under public scrutiny. The difference between Trump and Clinton is that Trump is sorry for his behavior, and Clinton didn't give a rat's patoot about his infidelities as he arrogantly denied affairs until he left office when his admission to lying about his girlfriend of 10 years (Jennifer Flowers) came about, after he and Hillary used their "War room" to invent lies about her and other women he sexually used for his pleasure. Several women accused him of rape after they told him no. The entire Democrat Party ignored Clinton's indiscretion in order to keep the power they lusted for. And this nation now has a Democrat House Leader who told people she is the most powerful woman in the world because she lusted for and got leadership in the House which means she is third in line to become the President. And her Democrat Party stood behind her while undermining President Trump and his Vice-President Pence in order that they could destroy the presidency but replace them with Nancy Pelosi who is the soul of corruption in this country.

I'm really not sure what you're trying to say here about Bill Clinton, but Clinton's hound dog behaviour is really non of my business because I'm not married to him. The only woman who needed to give permission was Hillary, and she seems to be OK with it, and the sleazy women he had sex with. There were no shortage of them.

You seem to have no problems with Trump's serial infidelity, sex with porn stars and admission of sexually assaulting women. Two women, including his ex-wife have said that Trump viciously beat and raped them. More than 20 women have accused Trump of sexual assault.

Shut up Canuck!

 

[Chuz Life]

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Do you deny that you were once that small and undeveloped, yourself?

 

[Chuz Life]

. . . I take it that these men will scoop up these infants and take them home and raise them.
To all the "pro-life" men out there: the hole in the baby's face is known as a mouth. It's where the food goes.If the infant urinates or poops, it's time for a clean-up and a fresh diaper.

Not that it should have a fucking thing to do with ANYTHING, but. . . I was a single dad with full custody for nine years before I finally remarried. My daughter was less than two, when I first started caring for her by myself.

 

[SaxxyBlues]

 

[SaxxyBlues]

 

[SaxxyBlues]

Who cares what any prez thinks about abortion? What does a prez have to do with anything?

 

[SaxxyBlues]

WHO HAS ABORTIONS?

• At 2014 abortion rates, about one in four (24%) women will have an abortion by age 45.4
• More than half of all U.S. abortion patients in 2014 were in their 20s: Patients aged 20–24 obtained 34% of all abortions, and patients aged 25–29 obtained 27%.5
• Adolescents made up 12% of abortion patients in 2014: Those aged 18–19 accounted for 8% of all abortions, 15–17-year-olds for 3% and those younger than 15 for 0.2%.5
• White patients accounted for 39% of abortion procedures in 2014, black patients for 28%, Hispanic patients for 25%, and patients of other races and ethnicities for 9%.5
• Seventeen percent of abortion patients in 2014 identified themselves as mainline Protestant, 13% as evangelical Protestant and 24% as Catholic, while 38% reported no religious affiliation and the remaining 8% reported some other affiliation.5
• The vast majority (94%) of abortion patients in 2014 identified as heterosexual or straight. Four percent of patients said they were bisexual; 0.3% identified as homosexual, gay or lesbian; and 1% identified as “something else.”5
• Fifty-nine percent of abortions in 2014 were obtained by patients who had had at least one birth.5
• Some 75% of abortion patients in 2014 were poor (having an income below the federal poverty level of $15,730 for a family of two in 2014) or low-income (having an income of 100–199% of the federal poverty level).5
• In 2014, 16% of patients who obtained abortions in the United States were born outside the United States, a proportion comparable to their representation in the U.S. population (17% of women aged 15–44).5
• In 2014, 51% of abortion patients were using a contraceptive method in the month they became pregnant, most commonly condoms (24%) or a short-acting hormonal method (13%).6

Guttmacher Fact Sheet

 

[SaxxyBlues]

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Do you deny that you were once that small and undeveloped, yourself?

Yes I was and my parents had the means to support me and see me through.

 

[Chuz Life]

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Do you deny that you were once that small and undeveloped, yourself?

Yes I was and my parents had the means to support me and see me through.

From that, may I conclude that you agree with the fact that an abortion kills a child? I mean how can YOU have possibly been that small and undeveloped. . . If you that tiny clump of cells was not you?

Furthermore, what does your parents ability or inability to support you have anything to do with what you were when you were that small?