John Kelly is boasting that he "stopped" Trump from doing things...

Trump wanted to withdraw troops from South Korea and NATO and John Kelly supposedly stopped him.

Well, good thing this guy's leaving because I agree with Trump.

Our involvement in South Korea and NATO should have ended years ago when Communism fell in Russia and Eastern Europe.

Why are we protecting Europe from a Russian invasion that will never come?

Keep in mind that Russia has a GNP roughly the size of Denmark and can not afford a war in Europe.

Also keep in mind that South Korea is a modern industrial nation that is more than a match for a weakened Communist North Korea that can't even keep the lights on at night.

Trump should appoint people who support his agenda and do what he wants to do.

John F. Kelly says his tenure as Trump's chief of staff is best measured by what the president did not do
Yea, something that has worked since 1946 for the benefit of the US? Of course Republicans want to stop it.

:eusa_wall:
How has troop deployment in South Korea and Europe benefited the United States? No, we are benefiting other nations, doing them a big favor, mostly at our own expense. And our reward is that Europeans find it fashionable to detest the United States and look down their nose at us.
 
Trump wanted to withdraw troops from South Korea and NATO and John Kelly supposedly stopped him.

Well, good thing this guy's leaving because I agree with Trump.

Our involvement in South Korea and NATO should have ended years ago when Communism fell in Russia and Eastern Europe.

Why are we protecting Europe from a Russian invasion that will never come?

Keep in mind that Russia has a GNP roughly the size of Denmark and can not afford a war in Europe.

Also keep in mind that South Korea is a modern industrial nation that is more than a match for a weakened Communist North Korea that can't even keep the lights on at night.

Trump should appoint people who support his agenda and do what he wants to do.

John F. Kelly says his tenure as Trump's chief of staff is best measured by what the president did not do
Yea, something that has worked since 1946 for the benefit of the US? Of course Republicans want to stop it.

:eusa_wall:
How has troop deployment in South Korea and Europe benefited the United States? No, we are benefiting other nations, doing them a big favor, mostly at our own expense. And our reward is that Europeans find it fashionable to detest the United States and look down their nose at us.
Our reward is Europe buys their gas from Russia instead of from us. Why the fuck we protecting them from Russia if they're going to buy their gas from them?
 
Trump wanted to withdraw troops from South Korea and NATO and John Kelly supposedly stopped him.

Well, good thing this guy's leaving because I agree with Trump.

Our involvement in South Korea and NATO should have ended years ago when Communism fell in Russia and Eastern Europe.

Why are we protecting Europe from a Russian invasion that will never come?

Keep in mind that Russia has a GNP roughly the size of Denmark and can not afford a war in Europe.

Also keep in mind that South Korea is a modern industrial nation that is more than a match for a weakened Communist North Korea that can't even keep the lights on at night.

Trump should appoint people who support his agenda and do what he wants to do.

John F. Kelly says his tenure as Trump's chief of staff is best measured by what the president did not do
Yea, something that has worked since 1946 for the benefit of the US? Of course Republicans want to stop it.

:eusa_wall:
How has troop deployment in South Korea and Europe benefited the United States? No, we are benefiting other nations, doing them a big favor, mostly at our own expense. And our reward is that Europeans find it fashionable to detest the United States and look down their nose at us.
Our reward is Europe buys their gas from Russia instead of from us. Why the fuck we protecting them from Russia if they're going to buy their gas from them?
What makes this really impossible is that European dependence on Russian gas makes it impossible for us to defend Europe from the hypothetical war with Russia.
 
Because our laws.
Which one.



This federal law limits what US troops deployed at the border can do
PHOENIX — The more than 5,200 active-duty troops being sent by President Donald Trump to the U.S.-Mexico border will be limited in what they can do under a federal law that restricts the military from engaging in law enforcement on American soil.

That means the troops will not be allowed to detain immigrants, seize drugs from smugglers or have any direct involvement in stopping a migrant caravan that is still about 1,000 miles from the nearest border crossing.
They can stop invaders. Otherwise what good are they.
...they are NOT law enforcement, and can not do the duties of law enforcement.


Congress outlawed the practice of posse comitatus by enacting the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) (as 20 Stat. 152) as a rider to the Army Appropriation Act for 1880. The act stated: "Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

Congressional debates indicate that the PCA was intended to stop army troops from answering the call of a marshal to perform direct law enforcement duties and aid in execution of the law. Further legislative history indicates that the more immediate objective was to put an end to the use of federal troops to police elections in ex-Confederate states where civil power had been reestablished.

Significantly, President Hayes vetoed the act because it "makes a vital change in the election laws of the country, which is in no way connected to the use of the Army." Congress overrode the veto. Accordingly, the willful use of the army or air force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws is a felony, unless the use is expressly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress.
It isn't law enforcements to prevent an invasion through our border. It's an act of war. It's what our armed forces are supposed to do. Protect and defend from all enemies domestic and abroad.
no matter how hard you wish that to be true, to call that an invasion in/of war, it's not....

i'm sorry!
 
Bring 'em home put 'em on the borders.

Once agon you dredge up this juvenile argument. When are you going to grow up and realize that border enforcement is not a function of the modern US military?
Every other nation in the history of humanity has guarded its borders with its military. Why not ours?

How about because we have a border patrol tasked to do that specific function? Our military is neither trained to defend our border, nor wants to take over that mission.
 
Kelly is not being PROFESSIONAL. White House officials have to be PROFESSIONAL.

and by the way...

Politicians need to be MORAL. or they are not THE MORAL LEADERS.

Trump is a politician whose MORAL. and his supporters are the moral leaders who are standing on the moral compass of God!
 
Bring 'em home put 'em on the borders.

Once agon you dredge up this juvenile argument. When are you going to grow up and realize that border enforcement is not a function of the modern US military?
to keep the invaders out it certainly is their job.

When the Mexican Army or Canadian Army invades, give them a call. Otherwise, ...
15,000 migrants is an invading army.
 
Trump wanted to withdraw troops from South Korea and NATO and John Kelly supposedly stopped him.

Well, good thing this guy's leaving because I agree with Trump.

Our involvement in South Korea and NATO should have ended years ago when Communism fell in Russia and Eastern Europe.

Why are we protecting Europe from a Russian invasion that will never come?

Keep in mind that Russia has a GNP roughly the size of Denmark and can not afford a war in Europe.

Also keep in mind that South Korea is a modern industrial nation that is more than a match for a weakened Communist North Korea that can't even keep the lights on at night.

Trump should appoint people who support his agenda and do what he wants to do.

John F. Kelly says his tenure as Trump's chief of staff is best measured by what the president did not do

Having nothing but yes men is a dangerous thing. But not a shock you think that is how things should be.

Oh, by the way...the troops in SK have nothing to do with NK, but with keeping China in check.
 
John Kelly is a war mongering neocon. He is owned by the military industrial complex.
Peace is his kryptonite and he should rot in hell
 
Trump wanted to withdraw troops from South Korea and NATO and John Kelly supposedly stopped him.

Well, good thing this guy's leaving because I agree with Trump.

Our involvement in South Korea and NATO should have ended years ago when Communism fell in Russia and Eastern Europe.

Why are we protecting Europe from a Russian invasion that will never come?

Keep in mind that Russia has a GNP roughly the size of Denmark and can not afford a war in Europe.

Also keep in mind that South Korea is a modern industrial nation that is more than a match for a weakened Communist North Korea that can't even keep the lights on at night.

Trump should appoint people who support his agenda and do what he wants to do.

John F. Kelly says his tenure as Trump's chief of staff is best measured by what the president did not do


Oh, so you know more than the generals.
Hmmm....where have I heard that before?
I bet you were all in when Mattis, Kelly, McMaster and Tillerson came on board.
I know you don't read probably anything besides this board, but the information Bob Woodward presented in "Fear" in regard to Mattis and Kelly has been proven to be SPOT ON.
Try literacy, it will change your life.
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Trump wanted to withdraw troops from South Korea and NATO and John Kelly supposedly stopped him.

Well, good thing this guy's leaving because I agree with Trump.

Our involvement in South Korea and NATO should have ended years ago when Communism fell in Russia and Eastern Europe.

Why are we protecting Europe from a Russian invasion that will never come?

Keep in mind that Russia has a GNP roughly the size of Denmark and can not afford a war in Europe.

Also keep in mind that South Korea is a modern industrial nation that is more than a match for a weakened Communist North Korea that can't even keep the lights on at night.

Trump should appoint people who support his agenda and do what he wants to do.

John F. Kelly says his tenure as Trump's chief of staff is best measured by what the president did not do


Kim Jong Un agrees with you, too. He'd like to see our troops out of SK, too.
Goddamn you're dumb.
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Trump wanted to withdraw troops from South Korea and NATO and John Kelly supposedly stopped him.

Well, good thing this guy's leaving because I agree with Trump.

Our involvement in South Korea and NATO should have ended years ago when Communism fell in Russia and Eastern Europe.

Why are we protecting Europe from a Russian invasion that will never come?

Keep in mind that Russia has a GNP roughly the size of Denmark and can not afford a war in Europe.

Also keep in mind that South Korea is a modern industrial nation that is more than a match for a weakened Communist North Korea that can't even keep the lights on at night.

Trump should appoint people who support his agenda and do what he wants to do.

John F. Kelly says his tenure as Trump's chief of staff is best measured by what the president did not do
When are you volunteering to serve in the military for all this?
 
Trump wanted to withdraw troops from South Korea and NATO and John Kelly supposedly stopped him.

Well, good thing this guy's leaving because I agree with Trump.

Our involvement in South Korea and NATO should have ended years ago when Communism fell in Russia and Eastern Europe.

Why are we protecting Europe from a Russian invasion that will never come?

Keep in mind that Russia has a GNP roughly the size of Denmark and can not afford a war in Europe.

Also keep in mind that South Korea is a modern industrial nation that is more than a match for a weakened Communist North Korea that can't even keep the lights on at night.

Trump should appoint people who support his agenda and do what he wants to do.

John F. Kelly says his tenure as Trump's chief of staff is best measured by what the president did not do


Oh, so you know more than the generals.
Hmmm....where have I heard that before?
I bet you were all in when Mattis, Kelly, McMaster and Tillerson came on board.
I know you don't read probably anything besides this board, but the information Bob Woodward presented in "Fear" in regard to Mattis and Kelly has been proven to be SPOT ON.
Try literacy, it will change your life.
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The generals, as you call them, are always going to push for more war because that's what generals do, it's in their self interest to have as much war as possible, in as many places as possible. If Presidents always listened to generals, we would be in war forever, and that's what's been happening for the last 17 years.

I understand why we invaded Afghanistan, we were pissed about 9/11, but in hindsight, we should have realized that no one ever wins in Afghanistan. It's called "the graveyard of Empires" for a reason. The following countries invaded Afghanistan and were defeated: ancient Greece, United Kingdom, USSR, and now USA.

I supported the invasion of Iraq because Saddam Hussein was a dangerous presence, unpredictable, having started two wars by invadining neighboring countries, and having used poison gas on the Kurds. He had to be dealt with, but it was appalling that the generals did not understand that a total destruction of Saddam's government and military would lead to rioting and civil war between the Shia and the Sunni.

Syria, I get we had to destroy ISIS because they are a genocidal group, but if Trump is right and ISIS is defeated, then the time is right to leavre Syria and let other countries deal with that endless civil war. Syria is not within our sphere of influence, never has been, and it is not worth even one American life to change that.
 

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