Judge Merchan Slaps Down Trump's Immunity Argument.

[Billiejeens]

God forbid the president be legally accountable.

No one in the hundreds of years of our republic thought the president has immunity, least of all the founders who could have put this in the constitution but did not.

There’s no hatred in wanting a president to be legally accountable.

They are trying to hold him politically accountable.
That's the problem.

 

[Billiejeens]

Is there any chance that the Supreme Court is biased in any way?

Absolutely.
Toward the Constitution.

 

[Marener]

They are trying to hold him politically accountable.
That's the problem.

Impeachment is a political process. Elections are a political process.

Trump’s indictments are legal accountability.

 

[Billiejeens]

Impeachment is a political process. Elections are a political process.

Trump’s indictments are legal accountability.

No.

 

[Lesh]

Again it is the risk we take. An honorable Congress would act immediately to properly impeach and remove from office a President who committed such actions and the proper authorities could then prosecute. Millions believe Biden is complicit in jailing/maliciously prosecuting political opponents, child trafficking, rape, and worse but it is the responsibility of Congress to use due process to determine guilt or innocence and take action if appropriate. A President has to be untouchable except via the ballot box and/or the discipline of Congress from all who think him guilty of whatever or just a scumbag in general as EVERY President has those who will so accuse him. If he does not have Presidential immunity in carrying out his duties as President he cannot do his job.

Millions believe Bigfoot is real

 

[Winco]

Absolutely.
Toward the Constitution.

So IF the SCOTUS actually rules against trump, you will support their ruling.

Good to know.

 

[lennypartiv]

Millions believe Bigfoot is real

More people have seen an election being stolen than have seen Bigfoot.

 

[Chillicothe]

"I am arguing the point that is the topic of this thread which is prosecution for what the President did while in office."

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Cool.
But maybe your own thread, then?
I am presenting views of the topic as posed in the thread opener, i.e., Judge Merchan's decision, applicable to his court, and this case, and the facts pertinent to it.

 

[Chillicothe]

"More people have seen an election being stolen than have seen Bigfoot."

More people watched the dangerous and violent attempted theft of an election on January 6th.....and the 60-days prior, being perpetrated by Don Trump, his circle of enablers, and several thousand duped & snookered supporters...... than have seen an election actually stolen; or BigFoot, or the Chupacabra.

IMHO

 

[TNHarley]

As well he should. Its an absolutely ridiculous argument for this case.
Trump sure does hire some dumb ass lawyers.

 

[BlindBoo]

If the courts say a president is not immune to decisions he makes as commander and chief the balance of power will shift to congress over the executive branch and over the judicial as well... The supreme court will recognize this.... this biased judge is only going for news headlines....

Hiding the fact that he paid off his porn star girlfriend is not one of the decisions a CiC makes. Of course most all the decision as CiC are not chargeable. For example Tricky Dick was never going to be charged with his decision to illegally bomb Cambodia, nor was Raygun going to be charged with illegally mining Nicaragua's harbor.

 

[BlindBoo]

They are trying to hold him politically accountable.
That's the problem.

False. Mitch and the spineless Republican Senators acquitted him politically and then blocked the bipartisan, independent fact finding commission on his actions leading up to the Jan 6th riot and attempted illegal stealing of the 2020 election.

 

[my2¢]

In the courts deciding how far presidential immunity goes, I favor a reasonable limitation. Not for any ill will against Trump but rather defining the law for how it will be for Trump, Biden, and all future presidents.

From what I took from the OP article, the judge's ruling was based on Trump's motion being late?

Merchan said Trump could have expanded on the topic in any
motions prior to the deadlines in this case and did not.
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This doesn't do anything towards how the immunity law should be viewed. The judge did his job but I don't find his ruling is anything to get excited about.

 

[BluesLegend]

Dems can't beat Trump in a fair election so they have launched all out lawfare to keep him off the campaign trail.

 

[Billiejeens]

False. Mitch and the spineless Republican Senators acquitted him politically and then blocked the bipartisan, independent fact finding commission on his actions leading up to the Jan 6th riot and attempted illegal stealing of the 2020 election.

False, of course

 

[WorldWatcher]

So, this use of "insurrection" is out in public now, and are grounds for dismissal as it is a further taint of the jury pool.

Just wondering why it would be a problem with the Jury pool as both the House and the Senate have voted (with a majority both times) that J6 consisted of an insurrection/insurrectionist mob?

WW

 

[BlindBoo]

False, of course

It's fact.

Senate Republicans Block A Plan For An Independent Commission On Jan. 6 Capitol Riot

The bipartisan measure, approved by the House, failed to win enough votes to overcome a GOP filibuster. The plan called for an independent body styled on the one that investigated the 9/11 attacks.

www.npr.org

The final vote Friday was 54-35, but Republicans withheld the votes necessary to bring the bill up for debate. Just six GOP senators joined with the Democrats, leaving the measure short of the 60 votes needed to proceed.

 

[Foxfyre]

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Cool.
But maybe your own thread, then?
I am presenting views of the topic as posed in the thread opener, i.e., Judge Merchan's decision, applicable to his court, and this case, and the facts pertinent to it.

There are no facts pertinent to it other than what is almost certainly a weaponized DOJ pushing and possibly funding these court cases against a political opponent. Trump won his defamation case against Stormy Daniels and the only 'facts' if they exist at all are related to handling of campaign funds when Trump was President and therefore that would be a matter for Congress to prosecute, not New York.

 

[WorldWatcher]

...and the only 'facts' if they exist at all are related to handling of campaign funds when Trump was President and therefore that would be a matter for Congress to prosecute, not New York.

Mind explain what you mean by this?

FPOTUS#45's New York case have to so with falsification of business records (not campaign funds) attempting to hide/aid Cohen's campaign finance crime which occurred before FPOTUS#45 was President.

Violation of a States business law has nothing to do with Congress.

WW

 

[Foxfyre]

Mind explain what you mean by this?

FPOTUS#45's New York case have to so with falsification of business records (not campaign funds) attempting to hide/aid Cohen's campaign finance crime which occurred before FPOTUS#45 was President.

Violation of a States business law has nothing to do with Congress.

WW

Show me where ANYBODY else has been prosecuted in New York for such a 'crime'?