Judge rules trump spent decades defeauding insurers and bankers

[Synthaholic]

Trump business model.

 

[Synthaholic]

Bwahahahahaha!!!!!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes the entire system including Trump and many others are corrupt and the entire system is broken.

I've argued this for years.

Well of course, when has it ever NOT been "broken"? There is always work to do. You and I agree on most of it, I think.

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[pknopp]

Well of course, when has it ever NOT been "broken"? There is always work to do. You and I agree on most of it, I think.

Greed is still king.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Greed is still king.

I wonder if it's in our genes? I bet: yes.

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[MisterBeale]

Enjoy. Here is all 35 pages of the PDF

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23991865/trump-ny-fraud-ruling.pdf

Wow.

Reading through this is incredible.

If the court system held every hedge fund manager, and every bank to these same accounting standards? HO-LEE-SHIT.



The American and Global economy would collapse overnight.

They seriously went through every single deal, with a fine tooth comb, whether the participants wanted it or not. . .

This judiciary actually has the hubris to state, to tell the TRUMP ORGANIZATION, that economic value is NOT subjective, and that they know more about economics, than actual bankers?!

This guy? He seems like a socialist/ Great Reset / New Normal judge.
"You will own noting. . . and you will be happy!"

Barter (or Bartering) Definition, Uses, and Example

Barter, or bartering, is the act of trading a good or service for another good or service without the use of money.

www.investopedia.com

It seems like he believes he can lawyer our way into a new world economy, and forget the basics of supply and demand. . . ???

Objective value? That is the most absurd thing coming from a legal opinion I have read in my life. The value of a bottle of spring water in the Great Lakes, is surely less than the bottle of spring water in the Sahara Dessert.



. . and an apartment in Trump Tower must be worth a hell of a lot more, or a round of golf on a Trump course, has GOT to be worth more, to a MAGA supporting partisan, than someone who hates Trump. . .

This judge, I really don't think, is a very good thinker. He should stay in his lane, and not try to take over the economics world, IMO. He has been immersed in his own legal hubris for far too long. He lacks some serious common sense. TBH.

That's just my own take on that.

 

[Zincwarrior]

And IOU's.

Next up, criminal trials.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Wow.

Reading through this is incredible.

If the court system held every hedge fund manager, and every bank to these same accounting standards? HO-LEE-SHIT.



The American and Global economy would collapse overnight.

They seriously went through every single deal, with a fine tooth comb, whether the participants wanted it or not. . .

This judiciary actually has the hubris to state, to tell the TRUMP ORGANIZATION, that economic value is NOT subjective, and that they know more about economics, than actual bankers?!



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This guy? He seems like a socialist/ Great Reset / New Normal judge.
"You will own noting. . . and you will be happy!"

Barter (or Bartering) Definition, Uses, and Example

Barter, or bartering, is the act of trading a good or service for another good or service without the use of money.

www.investopedia.com

It seems like he believes he can lawyer our way into a new world economy, and forget the basics of supply and demand. . . ???

Objective value? That is the most absurd thing coming from a legal opinion I have read in my life. The value of a bottle of spring water in the Great Lakes, is surely less than the bottle of spring water in the Sahara Dessert.



. . and an apartment in Trump Tower must be worth a hell of a lot more, or a round of golf on a Trump course, has GOT to be worth more, to a MAGA supporting partisan, than someone who hates Trump. . .

This judge, I really don't think, is a very good thinker. He should stay in his lane, and not try to take over the economics world, IMO. He has been immersed in his own legal hubris for far too long. He lacks some serious common sense. TBH.

That's just my own take on that.

Thats good and all, but he has no business licenses now. Bye Felicia.

 

[MisterBeale]

Thats good and all, but he has no business licenses now. Bye Felicia.

Think that'll be enough?

 

[forkup]

Wow.

Reading through this is incredible.

If the court system held every hedge fund manager, and every bank to these same accounting standards? HO-LEE-SHIT.



The American and Global economy would collapse overnight.

They seriously went through every single deal, with a fine tooth comb, whether the participants wanted it or not. . .

This judiciary actually has the hubris to state, to tell the TRUMP ORGANIZATION, that economic value is NOT subjective, and that they know more about economics, than actual bankers?!



View attachment 834711

This guy? He seems like a socialist/ Great Reset / New Normal judge.
"You will own noting. . . and you will be happy!"

Barter (or Bartering) Definition, Uses, and Example

Barter, or bartering, is the act of trading a good or service for another good or service without the use of money.

www.investopedia.com

It seems like he believes he can lawyer our way into a new world economy, and forget the basics of supply and demand. . . ???

Objective value? That is the most absurd thing coming from a legal opinion I have read in my life. The value of a bottle of spring water in the Great Lakes, is surely less than the bottle of spring water in the Sahara Dessert.



. . and an apartment in Trump Tower must be worth a hell of a lot more, or a round of golf on a Trump course, has GOT to be worth more, to a MAGA supporting partisan, than someone who hates Trump. . .

This judge, I really don't think, is a very good thinker. He should stay in his lane, and not try to take over the economics world, IMO. He has been immersed in his own legal hubris for far too long. He lacks some serious common sense. TBH.

That's just my own take on that.

Let me ask you a few questions.

Is the square footage of an apartment subjective?

Is "everybody commits fraud so being held accountable for fraud is ridiculous", a good legal defense?

If a person can put their own value on real-estate for loan purposes. Can he then reasonably site an entirely different value for that real-estate for tax purposes? Or would that be fraud?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Think that'll be enough?

No. He likely owes $200mm plus in penalties.

Another day closer to the criminal trials.

 

[excalibur]

 

[DudleySmith]

Uh huh..as is your usual inane imaginings. Post link to any third party assessments in this case...or be known for the liar you are~
In case you missed it...the State is the victim here.

lol please, just go ahead and get that other frontal lobe lopped off; you aren't using it anyway.

 

[DudleySmith]

Can't find any info on the Judge for some reason, other than it ran un-opposed in NYC. I'll keep looking, but I suspect it's just another Democrat criminal syndicate employee.

 

[merrill]

Trump lied on many loan applications = he should be prosecuted. However this demonstrates how loose conservatives play which then demonstrates how Reagan/Bush and Bush/Cheney home loan scams
were allowed to proceed.

Lending institutions have not been doing their due diligence................ thus all other consumers pay the price.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

One thing I don't understand. If I apply for a loan they check me out from head to toe. Why don't banks do the same when dishing out millions of dollars? My thoughts are, this is on them for not checking out Trump's claims.

It doesn't matter, just submitting the documents is fraud.
I do agree, if you're handing out that kind of $$$, they should verify the claims.

Mar-a-Lago overvalued by $664M, lawsuit against Trump ...​

WPTV
https://www.wptv.com › news › political › mar-a-lago...
Sep 21, 2022 — The lawsuit said Mar-a-Lago was valued as high as $739 million, which was "based on the false premise that it was unrestricted property and ...

What lender would believe that and then loan Trump $$$?

 

[forkup]

Can't find any info on the Judge for some reason, other than it ran un-opposed in NYC. I'll keep looking, but I suspect it's just another Democrat criminal syndicate employee.

What info do you need?

I read his ruling. Including not just liability for Trump but sanctions for his lawyers for bringing up arguments twice rejected by him personally and the court of appeals after an appeal.

There isn't anything in it as far as I can see that isn't supported by law.

So my question is what exactly makes you believe he's a " Democrat criminal syndicate employee", and not simply a judge that has looked at the facts as they were presented by both the prosecution and the plaintiff and found Trump liable?

I can't imagine it being anything but " he ruled against Trump so he simply has to be a shill for the Democrats."

Feel free to surprise me and actually cite something in the ruling you can argue with from a legal perspective.