colfax_m
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The fact that they were closing the case on the original investigation shows that anything he said would not be material to their investigation since they found no Russian ties or conspiracy or what have you. That’s more than just exculpatory, it proves his innocence. It was a perfectly legal conversation he had as part of the legal entity that is the Trump transition team. Exculpatory just means anything that could possibly cause the smallest shred of doubt. And it is the responsibility of the prosecution to turn it all over, or face a possible reversal or new trial. So it wasn’t just an oversight that all this Brady evidence wasn’t released to the defense.So you’re completely ignorant to all the exculpatory evidence that was released?Still didn’t answer the question. Why were they closing the case if they had him “dead to rights” with a lie?Oh, that's just right wing spin, that you chose to believe....So why were they closing the case if they knew he lied? Mind you we already have to evidence that this meeting was set up to a perjury trap, the agent wrote down his goal as “to get him to lie?”. So they were hypersensitive to sniffing out any lies, with the original transcripts in their possession. But they were going to close the case. No one on the left seems to be able to answer this question.Not solely a crime, but an official criminal investigation, right?The FBI was going to close the investigation against Flynn. We have documented proof of this, a closure EC was filed which is one of the last steps in closing a case. This was some of the Brady evidence that is now being released. It was being closed until a text from storzk came in telling them not too, and that it was coming from floor 27 (the top brass). The original investigation opened on Flynn was checking in on his ties with any Russian collusion. That case was being closed. In order to prosecute for lying, that lie has to be material to a crime. If there was no Russian collusion on Flynn’s part, how can his “lie” be material? I also go back to my original question, why, if they were so certain he lied, did they decide to close the case?Why was the FBI going to close the investigation with no recommendations of charges after Flynn’s interview (mind you they already had the transcripts of the call)? They would have known about the “illegal lie” then.It was hardly a lieCool story bro but you are straight out of your mind if you think ANYONE is buying your bs about Flynn simply not remembering anything about getting Russians to change their response to Obama's sanctions.
Only time sanctions EVER appears in that transcript, is when Flynn asked Kislyak "not to retaliate" on the sanctions.. Describe to me HOW the Obama Admin has a problem with "NOT get their diplomat corps kicked out of Russia????
You said this was all premediated. That was a leap of fantasy.. Flynn read in the WashPo the DAY BEFORE that the FBI had CLEARED him of anything Russia... That story was PLACED at the Washpo with "unnamed sources" as usual meaning that this was LEAKED out.. Whatchawanna bet that the leaking Comey placed it there to set the "tone" for the "sudden visit" the next day??
By Ellen Nakashima and
Greg MillerJanuary 23, 2017
The FBI in late December reviewed intercepts of communications between the Russian ambassador to the United States and retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn — national security adviser to then-President-elect Trump — but has not found any evidence of wrongdoing or illicit ties to the Russian government, U.S. officials said
Although Flynn’s contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were listened to, Flynn himself is not the active target of an investigation, U.S. officials said. The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that U.S. counterintelligence agents had investigated the communications between Flynn and Kislyak.
Although Flynn has written critically about Russia, he also was paid to deliver a speech at a 2015 Moscow gala for RT, the Kremlin-sponsored international television station, at which he was seated next to Putin.
Now THATS how you set up an ambush... Amirite????
But wait there is more! He also pled guilty to lying about his work as an undeclared foreign agent for Turkey during the transition. Man, you really know how to pick your "victims".
Funny how all that other stuff GOT DROPPED in the guilty plea deal that Flynn originally agreed to isn't it?? The FARA violation never would have stuck in trial because FARA violations are usually resolved with CORRECTING the registrations. And Flynn's lawyers BOTCHED this process during the run up to the trial.. I might add MAYBE on purpose since they were screwing him every other way... And a PARTNER was involved in this who was NEVER even charged and had MORE to do with Turkey than HE did...
During the election, you had PODESTA group representing banks in Russia holding over 40% of ALL RUSSIAN ASSETS.. But no one seems to care.. Even tho that means that they representing the interests of 100s of dirty Russian Oligarchs including Putin himself... No big deal right? They had a FARA registration to DO that.... EVEN IF THE SENIOR PODESTA was running Hillary's campaign..
And guess who else was seated at the table with Putin besides Flynn at that RT Awards ceremony in Moscow??? None other than 2016 GREEN party candidate for Prez -- Jill Stein.. This ditzy woman than BRAGGED about Putin setting her up to TALK FOREIGN POLICY with high level diplomats the DAY AFTER the RT dinner.
Tell me -- WHY those 2 things dont even appear to bother you?????? Why does Jill Stein get to discuss HER Russia policy at the behest of PUTIN in Moscow -- and the media and the FBI and the INTEL agencies and the Obama Admin just took a nap on that....
You really have to DIG to find all that outrage about ONE COMMENT from Flynn asking Russia "not to retaliate".,.. Why would Obama be torqued about NO retaliation???"
Why did Flynn lie to FBI about his diplomatic wheeling and dealing during the transition?
Did someone make him do that?
Flynn lied about talking to Russians about sanctions response and the United Nations vote. Not "hardly", not "kinda", but actual, brazen and illegal.
Look I'm with you when you say calling Flynn all out treasonous is over the top, but you make yourself look like an idiot when you try to deny Flynn lied his ass off to everyone and their mother.
Let me have a deep state liberal named TRUMP explain it to you AGAIN:
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I don't know what "closing" you are talking about. Agents conducting an interview (one of whom was Strzok) and their direct report (McCabe) were confused after the interview. On one hand, they picked up no body language indicating lying, on the other hand, they knew that what Flynn was telling them was directly contradicted by the information they had about the calls. Make no mistake about it, Flynn prepared extensively on delivering his lies.
All of this hay making is 100% moot because both the interview and conversations with Kysliak are ON TAPE. What FBI wanted or didn't want has nothing to with the ON TAPE fact that he lied.
Even Barr's motion to dismiss does not ever try to claim this ridiculous nonsense that Flynn supposedly didn't lie.
If the FBI are doing a criminal investigation in to a possible crime, you can not lie to an FBI investigator of that criminal investigation regarding that investigation.... that's the law.
it was a conversation, of one on the team, who had agreed to proceeding in a certain way, of which is REDACTED.....
he comes in the next morning and says, you know what guys, I have been thinking about the way we discussed yesterday....REDACTED
''and I don't think we should do it this way...... I mean/ what is the purpose of this interview? Is it for this? or for that? Is it to get him to lie? etc.. How would that be going easy on Flynn?''
Those were his comments to get the other guys to go with his way.... they were all with question marks, not statements of what they were doing....
and it ends with
"Do it by the book"
OF WHICH ya'll fail to mention..... the final statement....![]()
None of the evidence released is exculpatory. Nothing they released changes the facts that Flynn lied.
That doesn’t really make any sense. Investigations are reopened when they have new information. If the initial investigation didn’t show anything bad, that doesn’t mean new information doesn’t need to be investigated. If the investigation had been closed BEFORE they learned about his lying to Pence, then they would have reopened it but they didn’t need to since it was never closed in the first place. The agents writing the memo to close the investigation hadn’t known about Flynn lying to Pence.
Regardless, that has no bearing on his innocence. Remember, he wasn’t found guilty of being a Russian asset. He was found guilty of lying to investigators.