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or maybe you havent made a good enough argument,,,Yep you’re replying to posts and you have no clue what you’re replying to. What I figured.
If the police are searching three women while looking for a man, the problem is bigger than not showing one's I.D.
You still didn't answer any of my questions. Personally, I often (always if the guy is intrusive) answer questions with questions, so I can see what you are doing, but this was supposed to be a discussion and you aren't discussing.were they stopped for a traffic violation?? thats right they werent so a DL is irrelevant,,
your surrender is accepted,,You still didn't answer any of my questions. Personally, I often (always if the guy is intrusive) answer questions with questions, so I can see what you are doing, but this was supposed to be a discussion and you aren't discussing.
Unfun, unproductive.
You surprise me, pknopp ---- I always was told we are required to show our drivers licenses to police. Isn't that right, people? Isn't that what they are FOR? What if you got stopped for speeding and drunk driving and refused to show your drivers' license? Would that be right or wrong?
You gotta love when leftists know what a woman is when it supports their narrative and no clue when it doesn’t.
California is not a stop and ID state. The LEOs in this case had no cause to detain these women just because they wouldn’t show ID. The only person they might have had a case against is whoever was driving the car so long as the LEO saw them driving and commit some moving violation. Then and only then would they be in the right to require the driver and driver alone to produce a drivers license. LEO compounded the problem bu conducting an illegal search of their car and phones.Well, thank you!! At least SOMEONE (I'm looking at you, prog hunter!) around here is able to answer a simple question!
Okay, I am not entirely out of step with you on this ---- while I personally WOULD let police officers see my license on pretty much any occasion, I am taking a stand against letting doctors have it (some of them want to scan it!! Really. Identity Theft City, sheeeesh), or anyone else at all. This demand is spreading, and it shouldn't. They don't get my social security number, either. Or anyone else except the government officials that say they need it.
You are saying, I think, that police can't ask for your license unless they have "probable cause," which they are also supposed to have for stopping you in the first place.Surprise you? No idea why. In the case of speeding or drunk driving the cops would present a valid probable cause for you to give them your license.
Go back read what I wrote and then make an intelligent argument against what I actually said.or maybe you havent made a good enough argument,,,
these cops cuffed a women and her children for no reason other than egos in violation of their oaths,,
of course I would rather see them punished than the women made into a millionaire but thats not my call,,
Ahhhh --- so states differ in whether citizens are supposed to show ID on any stop. I need to research all this.California is not a stop and ID state. The LEOs in this case had no cause to detain these women just because they wouldn’t show ID. The only person they might have had a case against is whoever was driving the car so long as the LEO saw them driving and commit some moving violation. Then and only then would they be in the right to require the driver and driver alone to produce a drivers license. LEO compounded the problem bu conducting an illegal search of their car and phones.
You are saying, I think, that police can't ask for your license unless they have "probable cause," which they are also supposed to have for stopping you in the first place.
I'd love to know what the actual law is on this interesting issue. I may look it up on the new AI at Bing.
First of all I apologize to you for you using rough language in your presence. Because you are a nice persondid you sue them?? if not thats on you,,
what I wonder is why you arent standing up for the constitution and our rights it protects,,
so you stand by police that blatantly violate their oaths of office,,,First of all I apologize to you for you using rough language in your presence. Because you are a nice person
I was really fired up. When I was 18 years old I was pulled over by a black police officer. I’m a white man by the way and I don’t think that black cops are out to get me. I don’t think that black folks are out to get me. But unfortunately some BLM supporters have the reverse views they think the white man is out to get them.
I had a bong in my car. I was not in any mind set of suing a police officer back in those days this was over 15 years ago. So I mouthed off to the cops “what about my rights what about my constitutional rights.” I was brought up to believe that police officers are our allies and we submit to law enforcement but I was a young kid I didn’t know any better. If I was acting in a dignified manner I don’t think I would’ve had to go to jail. I was going the wrong way down a one-way but I was not inebriated or high. Just made a mistake going down the wrong street.
I had to spend a night in the Erie county holding center with about 40 other men crackheads all sorts of gangbangers but I learned a lot and I actually talked with a lot of people who were sitting there in the jail with me and I made some good conversations with them learning about their issues. About three months later at a St. Patrick’s Day parade I saw that black police officer and I shook his hand and we had a great conversation. My cousin is a police officer as well and they have to deal with horrible things. So if they pull somebody over and someone is mouthing off to them or somebody is not abiding by what the police officer says zzzthat’s wrong.
So I stand by the policemen and the police woman of our country these men there black they’re white their men their women they’re out there every single day risking their lives and they are working in a country where so many politicians have turned their backs on the police …the same politicians who get millions of dollars for doing this. Black Lives Matter turns there backs on black police officers.
I read the AOL article it was lacking information. It wasn’t good enough. I’m so proud to say I stand by the police and I’m so proud that they have police unions that protect the police officers ….I proudly stand by police unions.
Usually, they get about 1/3.A new precedent has been set.
Like the poster above said......reparations...one way or another......right or wrong.
"All that is required for evil men to prevail is for you to do nothing"
btw...Lawyers will get at least half of that award. Jack Pot !!!!!
First of all I apologize to you for you using rough language in your presence. Because you are a nice person
I was really fired up. When I was 18 years old I was pulled over by a black police officer. I’m a white man by the way and I don’t think that black cops are out to get me. I don’t think that black folks are out to get me. But unfortunately some BLM supporters have the reverse views they think the white man is out to get them.
I had a bong in my car. I was not in any mind set of suing a police officer back in those days this was over 15 years ago. So I mouthed off to the cops “what about my rights what about my constitutional rights.” I was brought up to believe that police officers are our allies and we submit to law enforcement but I was a young kid I didn’t know any better. If I was acting in a dignified manner I don’t think I would’ve had to go to jail. I was going the wrong way down a one-way but I was not inebriated or high. Just made a mistake going down the wrong street.
I had to spend a night in the Erie county holding center with about 40 other men crackheads all sorts of gangbangers but I learned a lot and I actually talked with a lot of people who were sitting there in the jail with me and I made some good conversations with them learning about their issues. About three months later at a St. Patrick’s Day parade I saw that black police officer and I shook his hand and we had a great conversation. My cousin is a police officer as well and they have to deal with horrible things. So if they pull somebody over and someone is mouthing off to them or somebody is not abiding by what the police officer says zzzthat’s wrong.
So I stand by the policemen and the police woman of our country these men there black they’re white their men their women they’re out there every single day risking their lives and they are working in a country where so many politicians have turned their backs on the police …the same politicians who get millions of dollars for doing this. Black Lives Matter turns there backs on black police officers.
I read the AOL article it was lacking information. It wasn’t good enough. I’m so proud to say I stand by the police and I’m so proud that they have police unions that protect the police officers ….I proudly stand by police unions.
in all fairness going to starbucks should be illegal,,.You did something illegal. These women simply went to Starbucks.
Marijuana has been decriminalized for a long time in New York State. I went to jail for mouthing off to a police officer and saying what about my constitutional rights. Brother don’t go by these anti-American articles. Don’t go by three paragraph articles. You’re on the wrong side of history morally speaking. Two sentences is your response to that huge post of mine.You did something illegal. These women simply went to Starbucks.
figures you being a leftist cant refute his post decide to go with personal attacks,,You’re on the wrong side of history morally speaking. Two sentences is your response to that huge post of mine.
I am a speed demon especially on the interstates. Usually when caught, I will fumble for my driver ID card, and pull out my military ID first. If they comment on it then its all good. Sometimes it works , sometimes it doesn't.
