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just like this pussy marine, oh why were you dishonourably discharged.
Another mortal wound....
desperation setting in I seejust like this pussy marine, oh why were you dishonourably discharged.
Another mortal wound....
so was that the reason you were kicked out of the army, for faking your own death?
desperation setting in I seejust like this pussy marine, oh why were you dishonourably discharged.
Another mortal wound....
so was that the reason you were kicked out of the army, for faking your own death?
vagisil is section 8.desperation setting in I seeAnother mortal wound....
so was that the reason you were kicked out of the army, for faking your own death?
so as I was saying, why were you dishonorably discharged from the army?
so as I was saying, why were you dishonorably discharged from the army?desperation setting in I seeso was that the reason you were kicked out of the army, for faking your own death?Another mortal wound....
Now, in part I agree with you, the Republicans are feckless with abortion, but because some are, and, it seems ALL CommiecRATS want the dead babies, simply to BUY stupid women's votes, they are for it! We have mandatory healthcare now, perhaps it should be mandatory that if you don't want the baby, it will be taken by a government, religious, or secular agency that will care for the new born, and the woman is STERILIZED so it can't happen again.... I'll wait for the sterilization rant from some idiot, but it is logical, saves a new born, and prevents an IRRESPONSIBLE woman from continually mating with whatever guy has the biggest dick!
Again you're saying that women who have abortions are unfeeling sluts who just want sex without responsibility, despite the studies links posted which strongly demonstrate this is just another right wing myth.
And the notion that a woman who has an abortion should be sterilized is another misogynist notion based on your hatred of women.
The more conservative posters post in this thread, the more they reveal that their anti abortion stance has nothing to do with saving babies and everything to do with controlling women's sexuality.
As for taking babies away from women who would have abortions, what would you do with them? There are already thousands of children languishing in foster care that no one wants. And child services is an expensive way of parenting, as well as being a poor way to grow up.
Conservatives don't have the common sense God gave a goose.
You are a disgusting, vile BITCH, I can't, in common sensibility call you human!
LIfe, even a HARD LIFE is preferable to death, that's why the human spirit clings to life instead of giving into death, you dumbass!
Every abortion kills an innocent human being.
Every human being is a person.
Beginning at conception, every pregnancy involves two or more bodies.
It is just, reasonable, and necessary for society to outlaw certain choices.
The right to not be killed supersedes the right to not be pregnant.
Poverty, rape, disability, or “unwantedness” do not morally justify abortion.
The differences between embryos and adults are differences of degree not of kind.
LESS than 1% of all abortions are performed to save the life of the mother.
To be only "personally pro-life" is to not be pro-life at all.
If there is uncertainty about when human life begins, the benefit of the doubt should go to preserving life.
Abortion is more dangerous than childbirth.\
Prior to abortion's legalization, 90% of abortions were done by doctors, not by "coat hangers in back alleys."
The 8 week+ unborn baby feels real physical pain during an abortion.
Abortion is condemnable for the same reasons that slavery and genocide are.
Abortion is not a “women's only” issue.
Every legal surgical abortion stops a beating heart and terminates measurable brain waves.
The right to not be killed supersedes the right to privacy.
Abortion disproportionally targets minority babies. Thank you Ms. Sanger!
Abortion has become a form of gendercide, shrinking the global female population at an alarming rate.
Laws concerning abortion have significantly influenced whether women choose to have abortions.
Just some reasons abortions are immoral and unethical, and THIS comes from an agnostic that doesn't put a religious view on any of these points!
So where are your facts,its is a fact its always a human,do you dispute that?Once again, the right wing ideology rears its ugly head and posts nothing but innuendo and ridicule yet have no facts or anything to base their statement.
Facts and real science eludes you.
The right wingers quoting science and scientists is quite laughable.
Let me sum it up in one statement for those who are now using science.
CLIMATE CHANGE!!
Dude. You can't go the science route with these people. They don't give a shit about science. They give a shit about what their ideology and peers say is ethical and taking the position most likely to earn them praise from their peers. You have to appeal to their own values if you want to reach them at all. Anything else is going to provoke a sneering contest at best.
What are you trying to accomplish by shouting out the name of yet another topic on which leftists have their heads up their collective asses?
How totally uncivil of you.
Has ISIS recruited you?
Now, in part I agree with you, the Republicans are feckless with abortion, but because some are, and, it seems ALL CommiecRATS want the dead babies, simply to BUY stupid women's votes, they are for it! We have mandatory healthcare now, perhaps it should be mandatory that if you don't want the baby, it will be taken by a government, religious, or secular agency that will care for the new born, and the woman is STERILIZED so it can't happen again.... I'll wait for the sterilization rant from some idiot, but it is logical, saves a new born, and prevents an IRRESPONSIBLE woman from continually mating with whatever guy has the biggest dick!
Again you're saying that women who have abortions are unfeeling sluts who just want sex without responsibility, despite the studies links posted which strongly demonstrate this is just another right wing myth.
And the notion that a woman who has an abortion should be sterilized is another misogynist notion based on your hatred of women.
The more conservative posters post in this thread, the more they reveal that their anti abortion stance has nothing to do with saving babies and everything to do with controlling women's sexuality.
As for taking babies away from women who would have abortions, what would you do with them? There are already thousands of children languishing in foster care that no one wants. And child services is an expensive way of parenting, as well as being a poor way to grow up.
Conservatives don't have the common sense God gave a goose.
You are a disgusting, vile BITCH, I can't, in common sensibility call you human!
LIfe, even a HARD LIFE is preferable to death, that's why the human spirit clings to life instead of giving into death, you dumbass!
Every abortion kills an innocent human being.
Every human being is a person.
Beginning at conception, every pregnancy involves two or more bodies.
It is just, reasonable, and necessary for society to outlaw certain choices.
The right to not be killed supersedes the right to not be pregnant.
Poverty, rape, disability, or “unwantedness” do not morally justify abortion.
The differences between embryos and adults are differences of degree not of kind.
LESS than 1% of all abortions are performed to save the life of the mother.
To be only "personally pro-life" is to not be pro-life at all.
If there is uncertainty about when human life begins, the benefit of the doubt should go to preserving life.
Abortion is more dangerous than childbirth.\
Prior to abortion's legalization, 90% of abortions were done by doctors, not by "coat hangers in back alleys."
The 8 week+ unborn baby feels real physical pain during an abortion.
Abortion is condemnable for the same reasons that slavery and genocide are.
Abortion is not a “women's only” issue.
Every legal surgical abortion stops a beating heart and terminates measurable brain waves.
The right to not be killed supersedes the right to privacy.
Abortion disproportionally targets minority babies. Thank you Ms. Sanger!
Abortion has become a form of gendercide, shrinking the global female population at an alarming rate.
Laws concerning abortion have significantly influenced whether women choose to have abortions.
Just some reasons abortions are immoral and unethical, and THIS comes from an agnostic that doesn't put a religious view on any of these points!
The human life cycle goes: zygote > morula > blastocyte > embryo > fetus > infant > toddler > child > adolescent > adult. What you posted is a human zygote. "Baby" typically refers to a human infant or very early toddler. Basically, you're both wrong. You're wrong that it's not human. He's wrong that it's a baby. I would say he's slightly less wrong because at least he understands that both are the same species.V thinks this, which you need a powerful microscope and a petri dish to see, is a baby.
You forgot neonate. And while of human origin, many of those are not humans let alone people (aka persons), not even close.The human life cycle goes: zygote > morula > blastocyte > embryo > fetus > infant > toddler > child > adolescent > adult. What you posted is a human zygote. "Baby" typically refers to a human infant or very early toddler. Basically, you're both wrong. You're wrong that it's not human. He's wrong that it's a baby. I would say he's slightly less wrong because at least he understands that both are the same species.V thinks this, which you need a powerful microscope and a petri dish to see, is a baby.
I suppose we should cover some of the basic definitions I'll be using if we're going to discuss this.You forgot neonate. And while of human origin, many of those are not humans let alone people (aka persons), not even close.
To V what gets flush down the toilet 50% of the time is a person, which isn't true in the slightest.
Just deal with the fact that most conceptions never see the light of day, and man has nothing to do with that. Thanks Doc.I suppose we should cover some of the basic definitions I'll be using if we're going to discuss this.You forgot neonate. And while of human origin, many of those are not humans let alone people (aka persons), not even close.
To V what gets flush down the toilet 50% of the time is a person, which isn't true in the slightest.
Infant: I was using it to cover the birth to toddler phase. I suppose you could draw a line between newly born and not newly born if you really wanted to.
Human: A member of the h. sapiens species. A lifeform with h. sapiens genetic code.
Person: A lifeform which holds personhood.
Personhood: A somewhat arbitrary ethical category which signals that the granter of personhood is affording the holder special rights and protections which aren't afforded to those beings that don't qualify for personhood.
The egg that gets flushed during a woman's menses is female human genetic material. When combined with male genetic material, fertilization occurs which creates a human zygote and begins the lifecycle of another human. I suppose you could say that the sperm and egg themselves are alive, since they're cells and meet the biological definition of life.
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here...?Just deal with the fact that most conceptions never see the light of day, and man has nothing to do with that. Thanks Doc.I suppose we should cover some of the basic definitions I'll be using if we're going to discuss this.You forgot neonate. And while of human origin, many of those are not humans let alone people (aka persons), not even close.
To V what gets flush down the toilet 50% of the time is a person, which isn't true in the slightest.
Infant: I was using it to cover the birth to toddler phase. I suppose you could draw a line between newly born and not newly born if you really wanted to.
Human: A member of the h. sapiens species. A lifeform with h. sapiens genetic code.
Person: A lifeform which holds personhood.
Personhood: A somewhat arbitrary ethical category which signals that the granter of personhood is affording the holder special rights and protections which aren't afforded to those beings that don't qualify for personhood.
The egg that gets flushed during a woman's menses is female human genetic material. When combined with male genetic material, fertilization occurs which creates a human zygote and begins the lifecycle of another human. I suppose you could say that the sperm and egg themselves are alive, since they're cells and meet the biological definition of life.
The full amount of genetic material that goes down the toilet we couldn't even begin to calculate.
Most conceptions never go beyond that. Look it up. It's a numbers game. For every known pregnancy there was one that wasn't known, and then then numbers of those who never see the light of day go up from there. The womb isn't a warm gentle place, it's basic training and most don't make it.I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here...?Just deal with the fact that most conceptions never see the light of day, and man has nothing to do with that. Thanks Doc.I suppose we should cover some of the basic definitions I'll be using if we're going to discuss this.You forgot neonate. And while of human origin, many of those are not humans let alone people (aka persons), not even close.
To V what gets flush down the toilet 50% of the time is a person, which isn't true in the slightest.
Infant: I was using it to cover the birth to toddler phase. I suppose you could draw a line between newly born and not newly born if you really wanted to.
Human: A member of the h. sapiens species. A lifeform with h. sapiens genetic code.
Person: A lifeform which holds personhood.
Personhood: A somewhat arbitrary ethical category which signals that the granter of personhood is affording the holder special rights and protections which aren't afforded to those beings that don't qualify for personhood.
The egg that gets flushed during a woman's menses is female human genetic material. When combined with male genetic material, fertilization occurs which creates a human zygote and begins the lifecycle of another human. I suppose you could say that the sperm and egg themselves are alive, since they're cells and meet the biological definition of life.
The full amount of genetic material that goes down the toilet we couldn't even begin to calculate.