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Just Heard, 680 Illegals Scooped Up By ICE

If 300,000 Mexican soldiers entered our country each year we would call it an invasion. We must treat this as a wartime situation. Sad, but true. So what’s your solution SweetSue? I mean I feel you...but these are pivotal times for our nation. BTW “teachers” and “preachers” are two different things. Teachers are not here to “save” anyone. So henceforth I have to be cold (which I normally am not) in these particular circumstances because of what the parents did by breaking the law and helping to bring drugs into this country. Sue you have a wonderful and big heart...but we must harden our hearts or lose our nation.

I'm not insensible to that. For one thing I know that these children's parents are not paying into the system. They are "freeloading" the education system and, typically, educating their children costs MORE than educating a legal citizen's child. so it's unfair, I get that.

I'm not saying these parents should NOT be deported. Don't get me wrong. I just feel badly for the children. Feeling badly won't change my mind about it being the right thing to do. It just doesn't deaden my compassion for the children. make sense?
Sue, I love children of all races...but under these circumstances if we are to save our country we must harden our hearts. It’s like when you brought the puppy dog home when you were a kid and your mom said you couldn’t keep it. Sure you got tears in your eyes but you had to go outside and run the dog off your property and let it fend for itself. Natural selection I guess. Sue, unfortunately these kids are dangerous to our country.

I don't know if you misunderstand me or what. I'm not against ICE raiding this business, the parents being deported, or even the kids being deported--but I don't think they can be because I assume they're US citizens. I agree with everything you say. We have too many illegal immigrants here and more all the time.

What you said, however, is "F the kids". I can't say that because I assume you mean by that we shouldn't for them; too bad. Well, I do. It would be like if a father is sentenced to death. I might feel like he deserves the death penalty. I might stand by that penalty and condone it even. That does not stop me regretting that the father has to die, and especially, that his children have to lose their father.

IOW the head agrees but the heart still feels bad. I'm not going to turn the heart off. I should not. I would be a crap teacher if I did.
14th Amendment is crap and new amendments needed to adjust it. You were an American before you were a teacher Sue. Trust me, I understand and what I said was “fuck those kids.” Got to turn that emotional switch off sometimes. Sad but true. Teachers are under no obligation to try to save the world.

No, YOU had to turn off your emotional switch to do YOUR job. Do not conflate that with MY job. If I turn off my emotional switch I'm a crap teacher. Kindly do not presume to tell me what I need to do to do the job I've been doing (very well) for 25 years.

I agree with you, btw. In all the particulars. Now you're telling me I shouldn't feel compassion for the kids. WRONG.
Well, let’s just agree to disagree. You’re one of my favorite posters. Cheers :beer:
 
It's about time they go after employers, Shepard Smith just reported 680 illegals were arrested at a chicken processing plant in Morton MS. GOOD JOB ICE!

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Whoops..not so fast:
MS ICE raids: 300 of the 680 detainees released

MS ICE raids: 300 of the 680 detainees released

"About 300 of the 680 people detained in Wednesday's federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement raid were released the same day, officials said.
Approximately 30 people detained Wednesday were released at the same site they were detained on "humanitarian grounds," according to a press release issued Thursday by Mike Hurst, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Mississippi, and ICE.
Another 270 were released after being processed by Homeland Security Investigations on Wednesday. Those 270 were taken back to where they were initially detained, the release stated.
Wednesday afternoon, ICE spokesperson Bryan Cox said everyone taken into custody and detained was asked if they had children. Cox said at the time that everyone would be processed but "not everyone is going to be (permanently) detained."
"You are going to have persons released," he said. "ICE makes custody determination on a case-by-case basis based on the totality of their circumstances."
According to the Thursday release, "all those detained yesterday were asked when they arrived at the processing center whether they had any children who were at school or child care and needed to be picked up."
Agents "made cellphones available" so those detained could make child care arrangements, the release stated.
If a couple was detained with minor children at home, one of them would be released on "humanitarian grounds." Single parents with minor children at home also were released.
"Based on these procedures, it is believed that all children were with at least one of their parents as of last night," the release stated.
At no point did ICE contact the Mississippi Department of Child Protection Services."


Yep, many were released with ankle bracelets. Personally I think they're being to soft.

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It's about time they go after employers, Shepard Smith just reported 680 illegals were arrested at a chicken processing plant in Morton MS. GOOD JOB ICE!

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Whoops..not so fast:
MS ICE raids: 300 of the 680 detainees released

MS ICE raids: 300 of the 680 detainees released

"About 300 of the 680 people detained in Wednesday's federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement raid were released the same day, officials said.
Approximately 30 people detained Wednesday were released at the same site they were detained on "humanitarian grounds," according to a press release issued Thursday by Mike Hurst, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Mississippi, and ICE.
Another 270 were released after being processed by Homeland Security Investigations on Wednesday. Those 270 were taken back to where they were initially detained, the release stated.
Wednesday afternoon, ICE spokesperson Bryan Cox said everyone taken into custody and detained was asked if they had children. Cox said at the time that everyone would be processed but "not everyone is going to be (permanently) detained."
"You are going to have persons released," he said. "ICE makes custody determination on a case-by-case basis based on the totality of their circumstances."
According to the Thursday release, "all those detained yesterday were asked when they arrived at the processing center whether they had any children who were at school or child care and needed to be picked up."
Agents "made cellphones available" so those detained could make child care arrangements, the release stated.
If a couple was detained with minor children at home, one of them would be released on "humanitarian grounds." Single parents with minor children at home also were released.
"Based on these procedures, it is believed that all children were with at least one of their parents as of last night," the release stated.
At no point did ICE contact the Mississippi Department of Child Protection Services."

See!
ICE is benevolent.
...or at least..aware of the optics. Kinda makes the raid look a bit weak though.....when they start putting employers in jail I'll be a lot happier...but they won't. so it's a meh.

They gotta abide by the Rule of Law.
 
It's about time they go after employers, Shepard Smith just reported 680 illegals were arrested at a chicken processing plant in Morton MS. GOOD JOB ICE!

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Whoops..not so fast:
MS ICE raids: 300 of the 680 detainees released

MS ICE raids: 300 of the 680 detainees released

"About 300 of the 680 people detained in Wednesday's federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement raid were released the same day, officials said.
Approximately 30 people detained Wednesday were released at the same site they were detained on "humanitarian grounds," according to a press release issued Thursday by Mike Hurst, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Mississippi, and ICE.
Another 270 were released after being processed by Homeland Security Investigations on Wednesday. Those 270 were taken back to where they were initially detained, the release stated.
Wednesday afternoon, ICE spokesperson Bryan Cox said everyone taken into custody and detained was asked if they had children. Cox said at the time that everyone would be processed but "not everyone is going to be (permanently) detained."
"You are going to have persons released," he said. "ICE makes custody determination on a case-by-case basis based on the totality of their circumstances."
According to the Thursday release, "all those detained yesterday were asked when they arrived at the processing center whether they had any children who were at school or child care and needed to be picked up."
Agents "made cellphones available" so those detained could make child care arrangements, the release stated.
If a couple was detained with minor children at home, one of them would be released on "humanitarian grounds." Single parents with minor children at home also were released.
"Based on these procedures, it is believed that all children were with at least one of their parents as of last night," the release stated.
At no point did ICE contact the Mississippi Department of Child Protection Services."

See!
ICE is benevolent.
...or at least..aware of the optics. Kinda makes the raid look a bit weak though.....when they start putting employers in jail I'll be a lot happier...but they won't. so it's a meh.
They should put the employers in jail for a long,long,time.
 
Pictures of crying children of those deported all over Twitter of course. And it is very difficult and sad--it was their first week (apparently first day, but who knows) of school. I get that. But if you're illegal in this nation you must know you take that chance--that you are here with that threat hanging over your head every week, every year.

Moreover, as much as my heart hurts for these kids individually, I also know how unfair it is for all the OTHER American schoolkids. Their parents are paid under the table (shame on the business too!) and so they are basically free riding their education. And their education costs WAY more than other kids, for English as a Second Language ALONE.
Nationalism. Fuck them kids. Their parents broke the law by invading our country and violating our national sovereignty.

K if my attitude is "F those kids" I have no business being in a classroom anywhere. Those kids can't help it. Their parents came here illegally and they were born where they were born. I blame the parents 100% and do not give the parents a pass simply because they have kids here. The kids' heartbreak is their parents' fault.

But that does not make the kids' heartbreak any less devastating. We can't make decisions as a nation based on that heartbreak, right? You don't NOT put a criminal in jail bc the kids will be heartbroken. But your heart should not be immune to the kids heartbreak nonetheless.
I say deport the kids along with the parents if the kids are not in school.
Why not if they are in school? Who takes care of them if they stay?
They take the kids with them if they do not have a sponsor and family member to take them. Still, if they are anchor babies they will get welfare for them.
Them getting welfare is bullshit.
 
Pictures of crying children of those deported all over Twitter of course. And it is very difficult and sad--it was their first week (apparently first day, but who knows) of school. I get that. But if you're illegal in this nation you must know you take that chance--that you are here with that threat hanging over your head every week, every year.

Moreover, as much as my heart hurts for these kids individually, I also know how unfair it is for all the OTHER American schoolkids. Their parents are paid under the table (shame on the business too!) and so they are basically free riding their education. And their education costs WAY more than other kids, for English as a Second Language ALONE.
Nationalism. Fuck them kids. Their parents broke the law by invading our country and violating our national sovereignty.

K if my attitude is "F those kids" I have no business being in a classroom anywhere. Those kids can't help it. Their parents came here illegally and they were born where they were born. I blame the parents 100% and do not give the parents a pass simply because they have kids here. The kids' heartbreak is their parents' fault.

But that does not make the kids' heartbreak any less devastating. We can't make decisions as a nation based on that heartbreak, right? You don't NOT put a criminal in jail bc the kids will be heartbroken. But your heart should not be immune to the kids heartbreak nonetheless.
I say deport the kids along with the parents if the kids are not in school.
Why not if they are in school? Who takes care of them if they stay?
Who cares?
 
They might. After all, the Democrats are doing whatever they can to make sure there isn't a sufficient barrier to keep them out.

And if they do come back, where do you suppose they will go? That's right, straight to Democrat sanctuary cities.
They are welcome here I rather have a hard working illegal in my city than a fat racist useless fuck who hates everyone but himself.
Alright. Illegals bring heroin into this country...those “hard working” drug mules. Never had heroin in the small town where I grew up in. Until the pork plant came. Then kids were overdosing on heroin. Never happened before. One of my best friends and his wife had a son that gorked on December 22nd, they tried to get him out but he went into a coma. Couldn’t score heroin that he had become addicted to...so he did fentanyl. They made the decision to pull the plug on Christmas Eve. Their son died on Christmas Eve over a drug problem that was non-existent until the illegal alien drug mule population showed up. Fuck you Democrat, vote harvesting, do anything to win , out of touch, suburban motherfuckers!
1. Blame big pharma.
2. Most users and deaths from opioid are whites, did you ask yourself why ?
3. Using the gun argument....does the drug get in ones system on its own?
Blame our national sovereignty laws along southern border. These people can’t cross unless cartels give them permission and then they are required to be drug mules. No the drug doesn’t. But when unemployment reaches extreme levels because jobs have went to Mexico and Democrats like Clinton and Gore sold out after generations of Americans voted Democrat since FDR and hopelessness and despair set in...well. Now you have a generation that’s going to have a drug problem when heroin is everywhere. Look what happened to England in 1980’s when those jobs dried-up? Drug problem.
Dont blame your failure on others. You sound just like the baby trump.
What failure? You sound like a typical fragile liberal crybaby :206:
 
Why was my thread merged with this one and why isn’t this in politics ?

Mods always wipe away threads that make trump look bad.


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Nationalism. Fuck them kids. Their parents broke the law by invading our country and violating our national sovereignty.

K if my attitude is "F those kids" I have no business being in a classroom anywhere. Those kids can't help it. Their parents came here illegally and they were born where they were born. I blame the parents 100% and do not give the parents a pass simply because they have kids here. The kids' heartbreak is their parents' fault.

But that does not make the kids' heartbreak any less devastating. We can't make decisions as a nation based on that heartbreak, right? You don't NOT put a criminal in jail bc the kids will be heartbroken. But your heart should not be immune to the kids heartbreak nonetheless.
I say deport the kids along with the parents if the kids are not in school.
Why not if they are in school? Who takes care of them if they stay?
They take the kids with them if they do not have a sponsor and family member to take them. Still, if they are anchor babies they will get welfare for them.
Them getting welfare is bullshit.
63% of Non-Citizen Households Access Welfare Programs
Compared to 35% of native households.
  • Compared to native households, non-citizen households have much higher use of food programs (45 percent vs. 21 percent for natives) and Medicaid (50 percent vs. 23 percent for natives).
  • Including the EITC, 31 percent of non-citizen-headed households receive cash welfare, compared to 19 percent of native households. If the EITC is not included, then cash receipt by non-citizen households is slightly lower than natives (6 percent vs. 8 percent).
  • While most new legal immigrants (green card holders) are barred from most welfare programs, as are illegal immigrants and temporary visitors, these provisions have only a modest impact on non-citizen household use rates because: 1) most legal immigrants have been in the country long enough to qualify; 2) the bar does not apply to all programs, nor does it always apply to non-citizen children; 3) some states provide welfare to new immigrants on their own; and, most importantly, 4) non-citizens (including
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63% of Non-Citizen Households Access Welfare Programs

 
Yes. Here we go again. Explain this scenario to me.
Umm, drug cartels, coyotes etc are providing them for a fee. Are you seriously this stupid?

In the age of identity theft you think getting a fake SS number isn't possible. You're an idiot.

So no one is able to determine these numbers are fake? I can just make one up and start using it? Say I owe back taxes, just make one up and start over?
The ICE raid arrest number of 680 is likely also fake. A couple weeks ago Trump said they got thousands, but they only grabbed 35.

And that's not even true.

Actually 35 was in one location. There was more than one location. This time there was more than one location.

Keep up the good work. Start rounding them up and shipping them out.

I just want to know where these 60,000 border patrol / ICE agents are hiding. We pay them $233k each for a total $14 Billion a year to do nothing. Look at the border on google earth. There should be patrols spaced every 175'ft, but they are actually miles apart, because only 1 in 60 are out there working!

I’m not sure where you got $233k. Like I mentioned to Ray here from Cleveland from different thread. I know several of them here in southern Ca. Some are married to my employees and got to know them well.
 
Yeah, tell that to the SS Admin, they won't even tell you if some is using your SS number, but they're happy to take the payroll deductions knowing they won't have to pay anything out.

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How does this work? You file your taxes and they kick you out noting you didn't claim the income you made from across the country.


Do your own research, I'm not your damn secretary.

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You said it worked. If you say it worked you have to know how it works. So it seems you are just parroting B.S.


Poor little commie, if you want to discuss a topic you know nothing about. It's your responsibility to educate yourself, not mine.

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I am educated on the subject which is why I am saying the idea that people can just make up S.S. numbers is a lie. But go ahead, defend what you can not by calling me names. Many think that is a proper rebuttal.

If you do not want to backup and defend what you say, why bother?

I’ve been in this business for as long as I remember. I inherited this business from my parents and start taking over in 1990 but apprentice before that.
I have a very large pools of friends I mean very large.
I also know lots of people in business because it’s part of my business.

The idea of illegals obtaining fake SSS is total bullshit.
 
ICE rounded 680 but by 2pm they released 5 bus loads. More are being released as we speak.

First what’s the big deal of 680? Obama did far better than that. Isn’t it?

I mentioned this from different threads several times and I will mentioned it again.
If you deport the parents. Who will take care of the kids??? YOU..... they will become as welfare recipients. That includes food, housing and clothing. Remember these are American citizens..

The unemployment right now is so low that it’s almost impossible to find workers. Just wondering who among you will get down there and start cutting of chicken heads.
Sassy?
 
ICE rounded 680 but by 2pm they released 5 bus loads. More are being released as we speak.

First what’s the big deal of 680? Obama did far better than that. Isn’t it?

I mentioned this from different threads several times and I will mentioned it again.
If you deport the parents. Who will take care of the kids??? YOU..... they will become as welfare recipients. That includes food, housing and clothing. Remember these are American citizens..

The unemployment right now is so low that it’s almost impossible to find workers. Just wondering who among you will get down there and start cutting of chicken heads.
Sassy?

If you deport the parents. Who will take care of the kids???

You're right, we must deport the entire family.....together.
 
ICE rounded 680 but by 2pm they released 5 bus loads. More are being released as we speak.

First what’s the big deal of 680? Obama did far better than that. Isn’t it?

I mentioned this from different threads several times and I will mentioned it again.
If you deport the parents. Who will take care of the kids??? YOU..... they will become as welfare recipients. That includes food, housing and clothing. Remember these are American citizens..

The unemployment right now is so low that it’s almost impossible to find workers. Just wondering who among you will get down there and start cutting of chicken heads.
Sassy?

If you deport the parents. Who will take care of the kids???

You're right, we must deport the entire family.....together.

Well ICE are not doing that right now.
What’s your point?

Parents will leave their kids here that I guarantee you 100% that is why we have thousands of unaccompanied children that are in the cage.

Aside from YOU and I taking care of these kids. Loans and other commitments they owe will be faulted by the banks.....

Here’s where i stand. In against any illegals coming in. But I’m in favor of giving illegals the right to live here........ That’s been here for 2 years or more without committing any crimes.
 
Pictures of crying children of those deported all over Twitter of course. And it is very difficult and sad--it was their first week (apparently first day, but who knows) of school. I get that. But if you're illegal in this nation you must know you take that chance--that you are here with that threat hanging over your head every week, every year.

Moreover, as much as my heart hurts for these kids individually, I also know how unfair it is for all the OTHER American schoolkids. Their parents are paid under the table (shame on the business too!) and so they are basically free riding their education. And their education costs WAY more than other kids, for English as a Second Language ALONE.
Nationalism. Fuck them kids. Their parents broke the law by invading our country and violating our national sovereignty.

K if my attitude is "F those kids" I have no business being in a classroom anywhere. Those kids can't help it. Their parents came here illegally and they were born where they were born. I blame the parents 100% and do not give the parents a pass simply because they have kids here. The kids' heartbreak is their parents' fault.

But that does not make the kids' heartbreak any less devastating. We can't make decisions as a nation based on that heartbreak, right? You don't NOT put a criminal in jail bc the kids will be heartbroken. But your heart should not be immune to the kids heartbreak nonetheless.
I say deport the kids along with the parents if the kids are not in school.
Why not if they are in school? Who takes care of them if they stay?
Who cares?

Who cares?
The US government social services will pick them up at cost of tax payers. New housing and new problems.

Just like the family separations right now that your moron created the problem that he has a problem fixing it.
 
It's about time they go after employers, Shepard Smith just reported 680 illegals were arrested at a chicken processing plant in Morton MS. GOOD JOB ICE!

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Whoops..not so fast:
MS ICE raids: 300 of the 680 detainees released

MS ICE raids: 300 of the 680 detainees released

"About 300 of the 680 people detained in Wednesday's federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement raid were released the same day, officials said.
Approximately 30 people detained Wednesday were released at the same site they were detained on "humanitarian grounds," according to a press release issued Thursday by Mike Hurst, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Mississippi, and ICE.
Another 270 were released after being processed by Homeland Security Investigations on Wednesday. Those 270 were taken back to where they were initially detained, the release stated.
Wednesday afternoon, ICE spokesperson Bryan Cox said everyone taken into custody and detained was asked if they had children. Cox said at the time that everyone would be processed but "not everyone is going to be (permanently) detained."
"You are going to have persons released," he said. "ICE makes custody determination on a case-by-case basis based on the totality of their circumstances."
According to the Thursday release, "all those detained yesterday were asked when they arrived at the processing center whether they had any children who were at school or child care and needed to be picked up."
Agents "made cellphones available" so those detained could make child care arrangements, the release stated.
If a couple was detained with minor children at home, one of them would be released on "humanitarian grounds." Single parents with minor children at home also were released.
"Based on these procedures, it is believed that all children were with at least one of their parents as of last night," the release stated.
At no point did ICE contact the Mississippi Department of Child Protection Services."


Yep, many were released with ankle bracelets. Personally I think they're being to soft.

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ICE are also human beings. They have families too.
 
ICE rounded 680 but by 2pm they released 5 bus loads. More are being released as we speak.

First what’s the big deal of 680? Obama did far better than that. Isn’t it?

I mentioned this from different threads several times and I will mentioned it again.
If you deport the parents. Who will take care of the kids??? YOU..... they will become as welfare recipients. That includes food, housing and clothing. Remember these are American citizens..

The unemployment right now is so low that it’s almost impossible to find workers. Just wondering who among you will get down there and start cutting of chicken heads.
Sassy?

If you deport the parents. Who will take care of the kids???

You're right, we must deport the entire family.....together.

Well ICE are not doing that right now.
What’s your point?

Parents will leave their kids here that I guarantee you 100% that is why we have thousands of unaccompanied children that are in the cage.

Aside from YOU and I taking care of these kids. Loans and other commitments they owe will be faulted by the banks.....

Here’s where i stand. In against any illegals coming in. But I’m in favor of giving illegals the right to live here........ That’s been here for 2 years or more without committing any crimes.

Well ICE are not doing that right now.
What’s your point?


That they should do that right now.

Parents will leave their kids here that I guarantee you 100%

Why give them a choice?

that is why we have thousands of unaccompanied children that are in the cage.

You're right, we have to empty those Obamacages and deport all those children.

Aside from YOU and I taking care of these kids.

I'll be happy to take them.....to the bus station. Send them home.
But I’m in favor of giving illegals the right to live here........ That’s been here for 2 years or more without committing any crimes.

If they worked without a fake Soc Sec number and paid their taxes in full.....so that'd be a couple of dozen.
Ship the rest home. Expedited.

If they come back, jail 'em.
 
Did I say MS 13? Cause I meant HARD WORKING FACTORY WORKERS .

This is what ICE is wasting it’s limited resources on? Factory working immigrants instead of dangerous criminal illegals . Bonus ! First day of school. How many kids were left with no one to get them off the bus? Now the state has to deal with the aftermath.

And you wonder why we have sanctuary cities .

Images of weeping children spread as ICE arrests 680 in Mississippi


Go the fuck home and leave American jobs for Americans. What part of this is hard to understand?

Son. Are you going to give up your jobs and get down there and start working with those chickens?

Why is it that it’s so fucking easy to say ....... American jobs when NONE of you snowflakes are willing to do these dirty jobs.

Why is it that it’s so FUCKING easy to say American jobs when I cannot even find an American worker that will empty my containers during summer. because it’s very hot inside. So I have Mexican workers supplied by temporary agencies.
 
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It's about time they go after employers, Shepard Smith just reported 680 illegals were arrested at a chicken processing plant in Morton MS. GOOD JOB ICE!

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Whoops..not so fast:
MS ICE raids: 300 of the 680 detainees released

MS ICE raids: 300 of the 680 detainees released

"About 300 of the 680 people detained in Wednesday's federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement raid were released the same day, officials said.
Approximately 30 people detained Wednesday were released at the same site they were detained on "humanitarian grounds," according to a press release issued Thursday by Mike Hurst, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Mississippi, and ICE.
Another 270 were released after being processed by Homeland Security Investigations on Wednesday. Those 270 were taken back to where they were initially detained, the release stated.
Wednesday afternoon, ICE spokesperson Bryan Cox said everyone taken into custody and detained was asked if they had children. Cox said at the time that everyone would be processed but "not everyone is going to be (permanently) detained."
"You are going to have persons released," he said. "ICE makes custody determination on a case-by-case basis based on the totality of their circumstances."
According to the Thursday release, "all those detained yesterday were asked when they arrived at the processing center whether they had any children who were at school or child care and needed to be picked up."
Agents "made cellphones available" so those detained could make child care arrangements, the release stated.
If a couple was detained with minor children at home, one of them would be released on "humanitarian grounds." Single parents with minor children at home also were released.
"Based on these procedures, it is believed that all children were with at least one of their parents as of last night," the release stated.
At no point did ICE contact the Mississippi Department of Child Protection Services."


Yep, many were released with ankle bracelets. Personally I think they're being to soft.

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ICE are also human beings. They have families too.


The also have a job to do, they call it law enforcement for a reason.

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