Just Why Are People Against The Trump Agenda?

[Trump The Russian Spy]

"Commie Care"...you mean ObamaCare, the same plan as Mitt Romney's in MA? The same health care plan originally supported by the conservative Heritage Foundation several years ago? You mean the same health care plan supported by the hopelessly corrupt health care industry, because it brought them millions of new customers? Is that what you're talking about?

Your shit is weak, Repug lightweight. You've got nothing.

Yes, that's exactly it. The same kind of plan that liberal Romney had in his state. Of course a state has the right to implement whatever laws they desire, however the US Constitution outlines what are federal government is to provide--and healthcare isn't in there.

The Constitution also doesn't mention an Air Force, unremarkable one. I guess the Air Force is unconstitutional also.

The Air Force is part of our defense, and yes, that is mentioned in the Constitution. The Constitution charges our Congress with the responsibility of protecting this nation.

The Constitution also charges our Congress for the well-being of U.S. citizens, dolt. This is known as the "general welfare" clause:

Article I, Section 8:

Section 8
1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

You can't have it both ways.

Furthermore, the arch-conservative U.S. Supreme Court also upheld Obamacare as constitutional a few years ago. So you can't even get them to agree with you.

You're boring and stupid. You've got no facts, no game, and no intellect. You're simply a shameless, unsophisticated Repug partisan hack who re-hashes the same tired bullshit Repug talking points over and over.

 

[Trump The Russian Spy]

Yes, because we all know how accurate the CBO has been in the past.

You are being too kind, Ray. Past experience has shown that CBO estimates can vary wildly in their accuracy. The only time they count for anything is when the data supports some Leftbots bitter diatribe.

The problem with the CBO is they are not an investigative group. All they do is take numbers that are given to them and create a report about it. Their conclusions are drawn based on who's numbers they use and who's they don't.

You are correct, I've seen very little bipartisan results from the CBO even though they (supposedly) are non-partisan.

Yes, anyone who disagrees with you is "partisan". How convenient that is for intellectually dishonest Repugs such as yourself who simply can't win based on the facts.

 

[toobfreak]

You traitorous Repug fucks don't even care that Kushner tried to setup a secret communication channel with Russia. You people are fucking unbelievable.

Well, there is always another message board! Or you could move to Canada or here's a thought, if life is that bad for you, there is always suicide. Because guess what, jackass subversive, the world isn't changing for you, there are far more of us than you and Trump will be in office for the next eight years and maybe his FBI will even investigate you as a likely domestic terrorist! You give all of the signs of a highly mental, dangerous person.

ITMT, while you suffer through the slings and arrows of the rest of us, let me point out that the communication channel that Kushner wanted to set up, was AFTER the election, mental giant, so it couldn't have possibly had any effect on Hillary losing, and he never even set it up! It was only something he wanted to do to have better communications with Moscow. Probably so they could talk without some jackass like you leaking the contents of the message to the New York Times.

BUT I WONDER, where were you complaining when Obama was setting up back door deals after the election with Moscow, taking down the missile defense shield so they could invade Crimea or giving them 20% of our uranium stock? Where were you then? If Trump was doing that now, we all know what you would think of that but when Obama and Hillary were doing it, or during the Romney race when Obama laughed at Romney's suggestion that Russia was an existential threat, where were you?

 

[Trump The Russian Spy]

You traitorous Repug fucks don't even care that Kushner tried to setup a secret communication channel with Russia. You people are fucking unbelievable.

Well, there is always another message board! Or you could move to Canada or here's a thought, if life is that bad for you, there is always suicide. Because guess what, jackass subversive, the world isn't changing for you, there are far more of us than you and Trump will be in office for the next eight years and maybe his FBI will even investigate you as a likely domestic terrorist! You give all of the signs of a highly mental, dangerous person.

ITMT, while you suffer through the slings and arrows of the rest of us, let me point out that the communication channel that Kushner wanted to set up, was AFTER the election, mental giant, so it couldn't have possibly had any effect on Hillary losing, and he never even set it up! It was only something he wanted to do to have better communications with Moscow. Probably so they could talk without some jackass like you leaking the contents of the message to the New York Times.

BUT I WONDER, where were you complaining when Obama was setting up back door deals after the election with Moscow, taking down the missile defense shield so they could invade Crimea or giving them 20% of our uranium stock? Where were you then? If Trump was doing that now, we all know what you would think of that but when Obama and Hillary were doing it, or during the Romney race when Obama laughed at Romney's suggestion that Russia was an existential threat, where were you?

Fucktard, I could give two shits whether or not the covert channel was setup to prevent Hillary from winning. The fact that it was attempted/setup AT ALL is a criminal act and Kushner is in big fucking trouble. God damn, you're fucking stupid! And you are a traitor, just like your hero Trump.

And here you are, like the intellectually deficient dumb fuck that you are, actually trying to justify and defend Kushner's criminality. Fucking unbelievable.

Your rant about Obama is pointless, irrelevant horse shit. Which is why nobody it talking about it except for your mentally disturbed Repug goober ass.

 

[Juicin]

You see so often people here ripping on Trump and those who voted for him. Just what are they against? Here is the Trump Agenda as he campaigned on and what he has worked on since in office:

* Economy & Jobs
* Lower Taxes & Tax Reform
* Repeal & Replace Obamacare
* A Stronger Military
* To Defeat Radical Islam & ISIS
* Energy Independence
* Returning control of Education back to the Individual States
* Cutting the Size of Government
* Draining the Swamp

Therefore, it goes without saying that those who are dead set against Trump are not for a better economy, better jobs, lower taxes, tax reform, better, cheaper healthcare, building up our military strength in response to growing threats, defeating terrorism, improved education, or reducing the burden of massive government costs, oversight, regulation and corruption.

They might say they are, but they just don’t feel Trump’s the guy to get it done, but, Trump IS the president, so, if it’s going to get done these next for years, you would think they would want him to succeed! Then there is this futile wish that somehow he will be removed from office which will never happen, so you would think they would want him to succeed! But they don’t. They hate him.

But what if Hillary had won---- would they be hating and lambasting her? You know they would not, even though she ran on essentially Obama’s platform and wouldn’t have done any of the above.

So, were any of the Trump Hater’s jumping ugly when Obama was in office? I seriously doubt it. Let us look at Obama’s legacy that they supported and would have likely gone on with Hillary; what was Obama’s legacy that they are so unhappy Trump is in office to change?

* Lowest Labor Participation Rate Since the 1970’s
* 95 million out of the Labour Force
* Worst Recovery Since the 1940’s
* Lowest Home Ownership 51 Years
* 13 Million More Americans on Food Stamps
* 43 Million In Poverty
* 1 in 5 Families Had No One Working
* 1 in 6 Men ages 18-34 In Jail Or Out Of Work
* More National Debt Accumulated than All Previous Administrations Combined

(source: Census Bureau & Dept. of Treasury)

Yep. This is what they were fine with during the Obama years, would have been OK with Hillary continuing, and are now railing against Trump for trying to fix? And their reasons?

Trump has blond hair.
He is more rich than they.
His wife is more beautiful than theirs.
His kids are smarter and better looking. Rich too.
He texts.
He is blunt.
He means what he says.
He does what means.
He works 20 hours a day.
He holds people accountable.
He is real successful in getting things done he sets out to do.
He gets things done rather than just talk about doing them.

And their rationale? With a gale-force wind of opposition against him from those who stand to lose by his cleaning up Washington, they complain that he hasn’t already accomplished everything 4 months into his election.

Hmm I dunno he makes Obama look like a both benevolent and competent overlord?

The comparisons are no longer with HIllary, it's with other leaders. And he is hopefully the most incompetent president we will see in our lifetimes. He makes Jr. look sharp

 

[danielpalos]

"Commie Care"...you mean ObamaCare, the same plan as Mitt Romney's in MA? The same health care plan originally supported by the conservative Heritage Foundation several years ago? You mean the same health care plan supported by the hopelessly corrupt health care industry, because it brought them millions of new customers? Is that what you're talking about?

Your shit is weak, Repug lightweight. You've got nothing.

Yes, that's exactly it. The same kind of plan that liberal Romney had in his state. Of course a state has the right to implement whatever laws they desire, however the US Constitution outlines what are federal government is to provide--and healthcare isn't in there.

The Constitution also doesn't mention an Air Force, unremarkable one. I guess the Air Force is unconstitutional also.

The Air Force is part of our defense, and yes, that is mentioned in the Constitution. The Constitution charges our Congress with the responsibility of protecting this nation.

Admit it right wingers; y'all just prefer to hate on the poor. Healthcare provides for the general welfare.

 

[Reasonable]

You see so often people here ripping on Trump and those who voted for him. Just what are they against? Here is the Trump Agenda as he campaigned on and what he has worked on since in office:

* Economy & Jobs
* Lower Taxes & Tax Reform
* Repeal & Replace Obamacare
* A Stronger Military
* To Defeat Radical Islam & ISIS
* Energy Independence
* Returning control of Education back to the Individual States
* Cutting the Size of Government
* Draining the Swamp

Therefore, it goes without saying that those who are dead set against Trump are not for a better economy, better jobs, lower taxes, tax reform, better, cheaper healthcare, building up our military strength in response to growing threats, defeating terrorism, improved education, or reducing the burden of massive government costs, oversight, regulation and corruption.

They might say they are, but they just don’t feel Trump’s the guy to get it done, but, Trump IS the president, so, if it’s going to get done these next for years, you would think they would want him to succeed! Then there is this futile wish that somehow he will be removed from office which will never happen, so you would think they would want him to succeed! But they don’t. They hate him.

But what if Hillary had won---- would they be hating and lambasting her? You know they would not, even though she ran on essentially Obama’s platform and wouldn’t have done any of the above.

So, were any of the Trump Hater’s jumping ugly when Obama was in office? I seriously doubt it. Let us look at Obama’s legacy that they supported and would have likely gone on with Hillary; what was Obama’s legacy that they are so unhappy Trump is in office to change?

* Lowest Labor Participation Rate Since the 1970’s
* 95 million out of the Labour Force
* Worst Recovery Since the 1940’s
* Lowest Home Ownership 51 Years
* 13 Million More Americans on Food Stamps
* 43 Million In Poverty
* 1 in 5 Families Had No One Working
* 1 in 6 Men ages 18-34 In Jail Or Out Of Work
* More National Debt Accumulated than All Previous Administrations Combined

(source: Census Bureau & Dept. of Treasury)

Yep. This is what they were fine with during the Obama years, would have been OK with Hillary continuing, and are now railing against Trump for trying to fix? And their reasons?

Trump has blond hair.
He is more rich than they.
His wife is more beautiful than theirs.
His kids are smarter and better looking. Rich too.
He texts.
He is blunt.
He means what he says.
He does what means.
He works 20 hours a day.
He holds people accountable.
He is real successful in getting things done he sets out to do.
He gets things done rather than just talk about doing them.

And their rationale? With a gale-force wind of opposition against him from those who stand to lose by his cleaning up Washington, they complain that he hasn’t already accomplished everything 4 months into his election.

Do you like clean air?
How about clean drinking water?
Do you favor letting polluters foul our air knowingthey won't be prosecuted?

How about Health Care?

Trumpcare by the numbers: 850% premium spike for elderly, 14 mil lose healthcare in 1st year, 1 in 6 w pre-existing conditions lose coverage

You're a scumbag.

 

[Reasonable]

You see so often people here ripping on Trump and those who voted for him. Just what are they against? Here is the Trump Agenda as he campaigned on and what he has worked on since in office:

* Economy & Jobs
* Lower Taxes & Tax Reform
* Repeal & Replace Obamacare
* A Stronger Military
* To Defeat Radical Islam & ISIS
* Energy Independence
* Returning control of Education back to the Individual States
* Cutting the Size of Government
* Draining the Swamp

Therefore, it goes without saying that those who are dead set against Trump are not for a better economy, better jobs, lower taxes, tax reform, better, cheaper healthcare, building up our military strength in response to growing threats, defeating terrorism, improved education, or reducing the burden of massive government costs, oversight, regulation and corruption.

They might say they are, but they just don’t feel Trump’s the guy to get it done, but, Trump IS the president, so, if it’s going to get done these next for years, you would think they would want him to succeed! Then there is this futile wish that somehow he will be removed from office which will never happen, so you would think they would want him to succeed! But they don’t. They hate him.

But what if Hillary had won---- would they be hating and lambasting her? You know they would not, even though she ran on essentially Obama’s platform and wouldn’t have done any of the above.

So, were any of the Trump Hater’s jumping ugly when Obama was in office? I seriously doubt it. Let us look at Obama’s legacy that they supported and would have likely gone on with Hillary; what was Obama’s legacy that they are so unhappy Trump is in office to change?

* Lowest Labor Participation Rate Since the 1970’s
* 95 million out of the Labour Force
* Worst Recovery Since the 1940’s
* Lowest Home Ownership 51 Years
* 13 Million More Americans on Food Stamps
* 43 Million In Poverty
* 1 in 5 Families Had No One Working
* 1 in 6 Men ages 18-34 In Jail Or Out Of Work
* More National Debt Accumulated than All Previous Administrations Combined

(source: Census Bureau & Dept. of Treasury)

Yep. This is what they were fine with during the Obama years, would have been OK with Hillary continuing, and are now railing against Trump for trying to fix? And their reasons?

Trump has blond hair.
He is more rich than they.
His wife is more beautiful than theirs.
His kids are smarter and better looking. Rich too.
He texts.
He is blunt.
He means what he says.
He does what means.
He works 20 hours a day.
He holds people accountable.
He is real successful in getting things done he sets out to do.
He gets things done rather than just talk about doing them.

And their rationale? With a gale-force wind of opposition against him from those who stand to lose by his cleaning up Washington, they complain that he hasn’t already accomplished everything 4 months into his election.

Hmm I dunno he makes Obama look like a both benevolent and competent overlord?

The comparisons are no longer with HIllary, it's with other leaders. And he is hopefully the most incompetent president we will see in our lifetimes. He makes Jr. look sharp

He's also the lyingest politician in the history of American politics.
Not to mention the biggest laughing stock in the world.
See above.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

"Commie Care"...you mean ObamaCare, the same plan as Mitt Romney's in MA? The same health care plan originally supported by the conservative Heritage Foundation several years ago? You mean the same health care plan supported by the hopelessly corrupt health care industry, because it brought them millions of new customers? Is that what you're talking about?

Your shit is weak, Repug lightweight. You've got nothing.

Yes, that's exactly it. The same kind of plan that liberal Romney had in his state. Of course a state has the right to implement whatever laws they desire, however the US Constitution outlines what are federal government is to provide--and healthcare isn't in there.

The Constitution also doesn't mention an Air Force, unremarkable one. I guess the Air Force is unconstitutional also.

The Air Force is part of our defense, and yes, that is mentioned in the Constitution. The Constitution charges our Congress with the responsibility of protecting this nation.

The Constitution also charges our Congress for the well-being of U.S. citizens, dolt. This is known as the "general welfare" clause:

Article I, Section 8:

Section 8
1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

You can't have it both ways.

Furthermore, the arch-conservative U.S. Supreme Court also upheld Obamacare as constitutional a few years ago. So you can't even get them to agree with you.

You're boring and stupid. You've got no facts, no game, and no intellect. You're simply a shameless, unsophisticated Repug partisan hack who re-hashes the same tired bullshit Repug talking points over and over.

And you are nothing more than a troll and flamer; something we could use less of on USMB.

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution that grants Congress the right of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
James Madison, Annals of Congress, 1794

 

[JoeB131]

Lie. Apples and oranges. Powell nor Rice had a private server....ever.

A private server wasn't illegal and it wasn't the issue. The issue was that Condi and Colin used private email accounts to do government business. If anything, what they did was worse, because they were using public servers that would have been a lot easier to hack.

 

[JoeB131]

No, he doesn't. The IRS has all of his files and have had his files for years. If the FBI wanted to see anything, they could simply get what they want from the IRS. Wealthy people constantly have audits.

But the IRS can't tell anyone if there is something on their that proves Russian ties... that's the problem. There was really no good reason for him not to release his tax returns other than he is hiding something.

No, Commie Care is going away. Because we don't have 60 votes in the Senate, we can't repeal the entire thing at once. It has to be taken apart piece by piece, and that takes time.

Except it won't happen because a lot of these Republicans are realizing that their voters will be the ones losing health coverage... So the AHCA will die in the Senate, and we'll all be better off for it.

 

[JoeB131]

As for what you're going to "find" in the Russian investigation? It's coming up on a year, Joey and they haven't "found" anything! Trump just appointed a Special Prosecutor to look into the so called "collusion"! Would he do that if he was trying to cover things up? The FBI's new Director has stated under oath that the firing of Comey hasn't changed the FBI's investigation into collusion one bit. So where's the evidence? We've seen nothing but allegations from "unnamed sources" for the better part of a year...allegations that have never once been backed up with proof.

Trump didn't appoint a Special Prosecutor, the Deputy AG did because Congress told him they wouldn't appoint a newFBI Director if he didn't.

Look, just because Biff's attempts to cover this up have been ham-fisted, doesn't mean he isn't trying to cover this up. He'll fail, of course.

Final note. It was nearly two years between when they caught the White House Plumbers at the Watergate and Nixon's resignation... And Nixon actually won a valid election.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Lie. Apples and oranges. Powell nor Rice had a private server....ever.

A private server wasn't illegal and it wasn't the issue. The issue was that Condi and Colin used private email accounts to do government business. If anything, what they did was worse, because they were using public servers that would have been a lot easier to hack.

No, companies that offer email services have the latest protection. From what I read, Hillary's didn't even have the basic encryption protection.

it doesn't matter whether it was legal or not, what matters is she did it without government approval. Furthermore there is only one reason to go through the expense and time to have a private server, and that is having the capability to destroy evidence when called for it like she did. Nobody would have their server bleach bitted because they didn't want anybody to see their emails on yoga lessons or wedding plans. Only a complete buffoon would believe that.

Unlike Hillary, Powell returned all government emails back to the government. He complied with all their requests. When Hillary was asked to turn her information over by the US Congress, that's when she erased anything incriminating.

Again, apples and oranges.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But the IRS can't tell anyone if there is something on their that proves Russian ties... that's the problem. There was really no good reason for him not to release his tax returns other than he is hiding something.

I'm sure he is, but that doesn't mean it's anything incriminating or illegal. He likely inflated his net worth to people, or didn't contribute to charities or something like that. I didn't say the IRS could determine some Russian plot, I said the FBI doesn't need Donald to give them something they could get from the IRS if they wanted them.

Except it won't happen because a lot of these Republicans are realizing that their voters will be the ones losing health coverage... So the AHCA will die in the Senate, and we'll all be better off for it.

Where is this proof of their constituents being on Commie Care? Most people on Commie Care are using Medicaid. We have less percentage of people with private insurance today than before Commie Care started. Also according to DumBama's white house, only 20 million people are using it. Even if one half of them were Republicans, that's only 10 million people, and I'm sure there is a good percentage of them that don't vote.

 

[danielpalos]

"Commie Care"...you mean ObamaCare, the same plan as Mitt Romney's in MA? The same health care plan originally supported by the conservative Heritage Foundation several years ago? You mean the same health care plan supported by the hopelessly corrupt health care industry, because it brought them millions of new customers? Is that what you're talking about?

Your shit is weak, Repug lightweight. You've got nothing.

Yes, that's exactly it. The same kind of plan that liberal Romney had in his state. Of course a state has the right to implement whatever laws they desire, however the US Constitution outlines what are federal government is to provide--and healthcare isn't in there.

neither is a drug war. Right wing "Hate on the Poor", means common for the poor but general for the rich.

 

[danielpalos]

"Commie Care"...you mean ObamaCare, the same plan as Mitt Romney's in MA? The same health care plan originally supported by the conservative Heritage Foundation several years ago? You mean the same health care plan supported by the hopelessly corrupt health care industry, because it brought them millions of new customers? Is that what you're talking about?

Your shit is weak, Repug lightweight. You've got nothing.

Yes, that's exactly it. The same kind of plan that liberal Romney had in his state. Of course a state has the right to implement whatever laws they desire, however the US Constitution outlines what are federal government is to provide--and healthcare isn't in there.

The Constitution also doesn't mention an Air Force, unremarkable one. I guess the Air Force is unconstitutional also.

The Air Force is part of our defense, and yes, that is mentioned in the Constitution. The Constitution charges our Congress with the responsibility of protecting this nation.

The Constitution also charges our Congress for the well-being of U.S. citizens, dolt. This is known as the "general welfare" clause:

Article I, Section 8:

Section 8
1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

You can't have it both ways.

Furthermore, the arch-conservative U.S. Supreme Court also upheld Obamacare as constitutional a few years ago. So you can't even get them to agree with you.

You're boring and stupid. You've got no facts, no game, and no intellect. You're simply a shameless, unsophisticated Repug partisan hack who re-hashes the same tired bullshit Repug talking points over and over.

And you are nothing more than a troll and flamer; something we could use less of on USMB.

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution that grants Congress the right of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
James Madison, Annals of Congress, 1794

the general welfare is not the general badfare. the drug war, wastes money on the general badfare. it is "OK" with the right wing because it denies and disparages the poor.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Jobs Jobs Jobs The Election of Donald Trump will allow us to put elementary schoolkids back to work in the coal mines.

 

[danielpalos]

Why do one percenters need a tax break during times of massive government debt?

 

[toobfreak]

The issue was that Condi and Colin used private email accounts to do government business. If anything, what they did was worse, because they were using public servers that would have been a lot easier to hack.

I'm sorry, did Condi and Colin conceal tens of thousands of emails where they likely took payments from foreign interests in lieu of government favors, then destroy all of the emails in an effort to cover their tracks? By using a public government server, the fed would have a way of keeping records, not hiding from FOIA requests, etc. And you somehow think a person's personal server in a closet is more secure than the governments???

 

[danielpalos]

No one should question the wealth of the one percent, during times of massive federal budget surpluses.