Keeping guns from criminals - liberals, what is your plan?

[M14 Shooter]

There is no money and no power behind those that want to have some type of gun control.

There is also no sound argument, which counts more than money and power.

 

[M14 Shooter]

There is no money and no power behind those that want to have some type of gun control. On the gun side is the NRA lobby, the gun manufacturers, and those citizens that love guns and their reading of the Second Amendment. It is not the Court's usual methods to go again that kind of power.

The court in part, 5-4 is too common. 5-4 decisions are one very good argument to rebut the right wing meme that the Constitution is clearly written.
The genius of the COTUS is its ambiguity, and why it is a living document.

Another issue that you refuse to meaningfully address:
DC v Heller was a 5-4 split decision... | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[M14 Shooter]

Only a brainwashed fool believes this will have any effect on criminals getting guns.

No solution exists, except to put every criminal in prisons? And who defines "Criminal"? A man who steals formula for his infant son? And which mass murderer of recent time has had a criminal record?

Another stupid post by M14. The evidence is mounting that he is thoughtless.

There are solutions to every problem, but liberals don't have the guts to implement them.

20 years in prison for having a firearm you're not supposed to be in possession of. Arm more good citizens and promote good people carrying their guns. Make laws much more lenient for those who are legally armed. Give them the backing of our government should they need to use a firearm for protection.

And you blame Dems for not passing strong anti-gun laws? LOL. The background check law has THE most support, and bought off Pubs have blocked it DUH. If we tried your idea here, they would brainwash you to be against THAT. You're a functional MORON. lol

We already have a federal background check...MORON.....and criminals get around it easily.

Stop calling everyone a moron. BTW, background checks are not comprehensive. Only a moron believes that to be true.

background checks are performed for every gun sold thru a dealer. Every one.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The gun lobby defense seems to be, if people break laws why have laws.

This is either a lie or abject ignorance.
The argument is that laws intended to prevent gun crime do no such thing, and therefore serve only to add needless, unsoundl and unconstitutional limits on the rights of the law abiding.
If you paid any attention whatsoever and any degree of intellectual honesty, you;d recognize this.

 

[TemplarKormac]

There is no money and no power behind those that want to have some type of gun control. On the gun side is the NRA lobby, the gun manufacturers, and those citizens that love guns and their reading of the Second Amendment. It is not the Court's usual methods to go again that kind of power.

The court in part, 5-4 is too common. 5-4 decisions are one very good argument to rebut the right wing meme that the Constitution is clearly written.

The genius of the COTUS is its ambiguity, and why it is a living document.

 

[TemplarKormac]

And for the record, this is what Wry Catcher said back in August:

I guess it'll take a tragedy which impacts you or your family, and in that way one at a time you and other callous conservatives may see the light. I don't wish that to happen to anyone, even misguided jerks like you and M14; but the tree of sanity needs to be refreshed by the blood of innocents, and I do believe in karma.

Now, Wry, what is this about you claiming to be "rational?" I told you. You are a troll, and an abject partisan. Oh, and you've completely lost your mind.

You show here that liberals are waiting to pounce on any tragedy involving a firearm to advance their agenda. "The tree of sanity needs to be refreshed by the blood of innocents." Disgusting.

 

[francoHFW]

Pass background checks without loopholes, brainwashed functional morons.

Only a brainwashed fool believes this will have any effect on criminals getting guns.

No solution exists, except to put every criminal in prisons? And who defines "Criminal"? A man who steals formula for his infant son? And which mass murderer of recent time has had a criminal record?

Another stupid post by M14. The evidence is mounting that he is thoughtless.

There are solutions to every problem, but liberals don't have the guts to implement them.

20 years in prison for having a firearm you're not supposed to be in possession of. Arm more good citizens and promote good people carrying their guns. Make laws much more lenient for those who are legally armed. Give them the backing of our government should they need to use a firearm for protection.

And you blame Dems for not passing strong anti-gun laws? LOL. The background check law has THE most support....

Obama was in office for 2 years with a Democrat-controlled Congress. Why didn't he pass it then?
I mean other than he didn't have enough Dem votes to do it...?

He only had 60 votes for 2 weeks, Pub dupe. Don't you hate it when your heroes make you look like a fool all the time?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Only a brainwashed fool believes this will have any effect on criminals getting guns.

No solution exists, except to put every criminal in prisons? And who defines "Criminal"? A man who steals formula for his infant son? And which mass murderer of recent time has had a criminal record?

Another stupid post by M14. The evidence is mounting that he is thoughtless.

There are solutions to every problem, but liberals don't have the guts to implement them.

20 years in prison for having a firearm you're not supposed to be in possession of. Arm more good citizens and promote good people carrying their guns. Make laws much more lenient for those who are legally armed. Give them the backing of our government should they need to use a firearm for protection.

And you blame Dems for not passing strong anti-gun laws? LOL. The background check law has THE most support....

Obama was in office for 2 years with a Democrat-controlled Congress. Why didn't he pass it then?
I mean other than he didn't have enough Dem votes to do it...?

He only had 60 votes for 2 weeks,

2 years.
Excuses excuses.

 

[francoHFW]

No solution exists, except to put every criminal in prisons? And who defines "Criminal"? A man who steals formula for his infant son? And which mass murderer of recent time has had a criminal record?

Another stupid post by M14. The evidence is mounting that he is thoughtless.

There are solutions to every problem, but liberals don't have the guts to implement them.

20 years in prison for having a firearm you're not supposed to be in possession of. Arm more good citizens and promote good people carrying their guns. Make laws much more lenient for those who are legally armed. Give them the backing of our government should they need to use a firearm for protection.

And you blame Dems for not passing strong anti-gun laws? LOL. The background check law has THE most support....

Obama was in office for 2 years with a Democrat-controlled Congress. Why didn't he pass it then?
I mean other than he didn't have enough Dem votes to do it...?

He only had 60 votes for 2 weeks,

2 years.
Excuses excuses.

2 years, over 200 Pub filibusters, dingbat dupe. Earth to Pub dupe...

 

[M14 Shooter]

There are solutions to every problem, but liberals don't have the guts to implement them.

20 years in prison for having a firearm you're not supposed to be in possession of. Arm more good citizens and promote good people carrying their guns. Make laws much more lenient for those who are legally armed. Give them the backing of our government should they need to use a firearm for protection.

And you blame Dems for not passing strong anti-gun laws? LOL. The background check law has THE most support....

Obama was in office for 2 years with a Democrat-controlled Congress. Why didn't he pass it then?
I mean other than he didn't have enough Dem votes to do it...?

He only had 60 votes for 2 weeks,

2 years.
Excuses excuses.

2 years, over 200 Pub filibusters, dingbat dupe. Earth to Pub dupe...

Excuses, excuses.

 

[francoHFW]

And for the record, this is what Wry Catcher said back in August:

I guess it'll take a tragedy which impacts you or your family, and in that way one at a time you and other callous conservatives may see the light. I don't wish that to happen to anyone, even misguided jerks like you and M14; but the tree of sanity needs to be refreshed by the blood of innocents, and I do believe in karma.

Now, Wry, what is this about you claiming to be "rational?" I told you. You are a troll, and an abject partisan. Oh, and you've completely lost your mind.

You show here that liberals are waiting to pounce on any tragedy involving a firearm to advance their agenda. "The tree of sanity needs to be refreshed by the blood of innocents." Disgusting.

Every day there's another at least- "Guns Everywhere" is NRA/Gun Corps/corrupt GOP idiocy. Background checks without loopholes is hardly coming for your guns, brainwashed functional morons...

 

[M14 Shooter]

Background checks without loopholes...

There are no loopholes in the current background check system.
To believe otherwise is to lie to yourself.

 

[francoHFW]

Background checks without loopholes...

There are no loopholes in the current background check system.
To believe otherwise is to lie to yourself.

Gunshows in Red states duhhh. You just prefer to live on another planet lol. Pathetic.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Background checks without loopholes...

There are no loopholes in the current background check system.
To believe otherwise is to lie to yourself.

Gunshows in Red states duhhh.

As I said: You lie to yourself.
Federal law does not allow an exception for guns sold at gun shows; there are no loopholes in the current background check system.

 

[francoHFW]

Wiki- Gun show loopholes duh:
As of August 2013, 17 U.S. states and Washington, D.C., require background checks at gun shows.[102][5] Seven states require background checks on all gun sales at gun shows: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, New York, Oregon, and Rhode Island. Four require background checks on all handgun purchases at gun shows: Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. Six require individuals to obtain a permit that involves a background check to purchase handguns: Iowa, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, and North Carolina. The remaining 33 states do not restrict private sales of firearms at gun shows.[103][104][105]

 

[M14 Shooter]

Wiki- Gun show loopholes duh:

There is no such thing,
Federal law applies at gun shows just like it does where else - there is no "loophole" in the law for gun shows.
Why do you insist on lying to yourself?

 

[francoHFW]

Sure, FoxRushwhatever bot. lol. Time for more tinfoil.

 

[Wry Catcher]

And you blame Dems for not passing strong anti-gun laws? LOL. The background check law has THE most support....

Obama was in office for 2 years with a Democrat-controlled Congress. Why didn't he pass it then?
I mean other than he didn't have enough Dem votes to do it...?

He only had 60 votes for 2 weeks,

2 years.
Excuses excuses.

2 years, over 200 Pub filibusters, dingbat dupe. Earth to Pub dupe...

Excuses, excuses.

An explanation is not an excuse! Of course calling it so is a lie, lies are not unexpected from M14.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Wiki- Gun show loopholes duh:

There is no such thing,
Federal law applies at gun shows just like it does where else - there is no "loophole" in the law for gun shows.
Why do you insist on lying to yourself?

The Parking lot at gun shows, in bars and back alleys are loopholes as well as a black market. Once again M14 lies, this time with a half-truth, thus a lie of omission! BTW, black market sales and purchases are criminal acts.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Sure, FoxRushwhatever bot. lol. Time for more tinfoil.

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