Keeping His Promise

[PoliticalChic]

What a breath of fresh air this President is, after the one America just shed.

I revealed the Fascism of the Liberals/Democrats who vote to support a party that eschews free speech, the first amendment notwithstanding.

1. Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors of their right of free speech.

I have asked Liberals/Democrats to offer an explanation....none was ever advanced.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????




2. " Donald Trump: As President, I’ll Reverse the Law That Prevents Churches from Endorsing Candidates
Trump said near the end of his speech that he would rescind the IRS rule preventing churches from endorsing candidates.

That takes you and it makes you less powerful than a man or woman walking up and down the street. You actually have less power.”

And yet if you look at it, I was talking to someone, we probably have 250 million, maybe even more, in terms of people, so we have more Christians… than we have men or women in our country and we don’t have a lobby because they’re afraid to have a lobby because they don’t want to lose their tax status.

So I am going to work like hell to get rid of that prohibition and we’re going to have the strongest Christian lobby and it’s going to happen. This took place during the presidency of Lyndon Johnson and it has had a terrible chilling effect."
Donald Trump: As President, I’ll Reverse the Law That Prevents Churches from Endorsing Candidates




3. Today:
"Trump to sign executive order to 'vigorously promote religious liberty'
(CNN)President Donald Trump plans to sign an executive order Thursday that could allow churches and other religious organizations to become more active politically, according to officials.

The order will direct the IRS to exercise "maximum enforcement discretion" over the Johnson Amendment, which prevents churches and other tax-exempt religious organizations from endorsing or opposing political candidates. It will also provide "regulatory relief" for organizations that object on religious grounds to a provision in Obamacare that mandates employers provide certain health services, including coverage for contraception.

The order will declare that it is the policy of the Trump administration "to protect and vigorously promote religious liberty," according to a senior administration official."
Trump to sign executive order to 'vigorously promote religious liberty' - CNNPolitics.com



God bless America.

 

[NightFox]

How is encouraging the mixing of politics and religion even more than it already is a good thing for either our politics or for religion?

Isn't it the case that when a church becomes a political advocacy instrument it undermines it's own belief system with respect to the guidance and supremacy of a "higher power"?

 

[PoliticalChic]

How is encouraging the mixing of politics and religion even more than it already is a good thing for either our politics or for religion?

Isn't it the case that when a church becomes a political advocacy instrument it undermines it's own belief system with respect to the guidance and supremacy of a "higher power"?

Of course not.

Are you ready to claim that the first amendment does not apply to religious folks?

 

[Marion Morrison]

That is great news! This nation was founded by men that fought and were pastors.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Keeping his promise my ass.

I will repeal obamacare.....

Never repeals the fucking bill

 

[NightFox]

How is encouraging the mixing of politics and religion even more than it already is a good thing for either our politics or for religion?

Isn't it the case that when a church becomes a political advocacy instrument it undermines it's own belief system with respect to the guidance and supremacy of a "higher power"?

Of course not.

Are you ready to claim that the first amendment does not apply to religious folks?

Where did you come up with that complete straw man? This isn't a first amendment issue since there is no legal prohibitions for churches speaking about whatever the heck they want, they just lose their special tax exempt privilege when they engage in the direct endorsement of political candidates/public policy prescriptions.

In other words if they want the same breadth of 1st Amendment protections that the rest of us enjoy they have to pay for said protections just like the rest of us do.

 

[PoliticalChic]

That is great news! This nation was founded by men that fought and were pastors.

While the Supreme Court was number one on my reasons for voting for President Trump, this issue was high on my list.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Keeping his promise my ass.

I will repeal obamacare.....

Never repeals the fucking bill

I just proved that he is keeping his promise on a particular issue.

I'm puzzled as to your inability to keep the two issues separate.

 

[NightFox]

Keeping his promise my ass.

I will repeal obamacare.....

Awesome ! since I have a lot more faith in your ability and willingness to repeal Obamacare than I have in the Republicans being willing and able to do it.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I already see a problem in that it's just just an EO. That means it could be undone by any president that wants to.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

These executive orders need to stop. This shit is no different than Obama ruling by decree

 

[PoliticalChic]

How is encouraging the mixing of politics and religion even more than it already is a good thing for either our politics or for religion?

Isn't it the case that when a church becomes a political advocacy instrument it undermines it's own belief system with respect to the guidance and supremacy of a "higher power"?

Of course not.

Are you ready to claim that the first amendment does not apply to religious folks?

Where did you come up with that complete straw man? This isn't a first amendment issue since there is no legal prohibitions for churches speaking about whatever the heck they want, they just lose their special tax exempt privilege when they engage in the direct endorsement of political candidates/public policy prescriptions.

In other words if they want the same breadth of 1st Amendment protections that the rest of us enjoy they have to pay for said protections just like the rest of us do.

"This isn't a first amendment issue since there is no legal prohibitions for churches speaking about whatever the heck they want, they just lose their special tax exempt privilege when they engage in the direct endorsement of political candidates/public policy prescriptions.

Try to avoid sounding like a fool....or a Liberal.
Is that redundant?


Here is your reading test:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Keeping his promise my ass.

I will repeal obamacare.....

Never repeals the fucking bill

I just proved that he is keeping his promise on a particular issue.

I'm puzzled as to your inability to keep the two issues separate.

He signed a USELESS executive order that can be overturned

 

[depotoo]

Yet churches promoting Democratic candidates never have lost theirs.

How is encouraging the mixing of politics and religion even more than it already is a good thing for either our politics or for religion?

Isn't it the case that when a church becomes a political advocacy instrument it undermines it's own belief system with respect to the guidance and supremacy of a "higher power"?

Of course not.

Are you ready to claim that the first amendment does not apply to religious folks?

Where did you come up with that complete straw man? This isn't a first amendment issue since there is no legal prohibitions for churches speaking about whatever the heck they want, they just lose their special tax exempt privilege when they engage in the direct endorsement of political candidates/public policy prescriptions.

In other words if they want the same breadth of 1st Amendment protections that the rest of us enjoy they have to pay for said protections just like the rest of us do.

 

[The VOR]

How is encouraging the mixing of politics and religion even more than it already is a good thing for either our politics or for religion?

Isn't it the case that when a church becomes a political advocacy instrument it undermines it's own belief system with respect to the guidance and supremacy of a "higher power"?

Of course not.

Are you ready to claim that the first amendment does not apply to religious folks?

Where did you come up with that complete straw man? This isn't a first amendment issue since there is no legal prohibitions for churches speaking about whatever the heck they want, they just lose their special tax exempt privilege when they engage in the direct endorsement of political candidates/public policy prescriptions.

In other words if they want the same breadth of 1st Amendment protections that the rest of us enjoy they have to pay for said protections just like the rest of us do.

End the tax exempt status for all religions. They're all just businesses anyway selling a nonexistent product.

 

[PoliticalChic]

These executive orders need to stop. This shit is no different than Obama ruling by decree

Try to learn from this:
Silence is tacit approval and latent complicity.

And clean up your language.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yet churches promoting Democratic candidates never have lost theirs.

How is encouraging the mixing of politics and religion even more than it already is a good thing for either our politics or for religion?

Isn't it the case that when a church becomes a political advocacy instrument it undermines it's own belief system with respect to the guidance and supremacy of a "higher power"?

Of course not.

Are you ready to claim that the first amendment does not apply to religious folks?

Where did you come up with that complete straw man? This isn't a first amendment issue since there is no legal prohibitions for churches speaking about whatever the heck they want, they just lose their special tax exempt privilege when they engage in the direct endorsement of political candidates/public policy prescriptions.

In other words if they want the same breadth of 1st Amendment protections that the rest of us enjoy they have to pay for said protections just like the rest of us do.

Remember response the IRS gave Jesse Jackson, they claimed they couldn't understand his records.

 

[jc456]

These executive orders need to stop. This shit is no different than Obama ruling by decree

well I'll tell you what, get some fking representatives and senators that want to work and maybe this wouldn't be necessary.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I already see a problem in that it's just just an EO. That means it could be undone by any president that wants to.

Better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.

 

[Moonglow]

How is encouraging the mixing of politics and religion even more than it already is a good thing for either our politics or for religion?

Isn't it the case that when a church becomes a political advocacy instrument it undermines it's own belief system with respect to the guidance and supremacy of a "higher power"?

Of course not.

Are you ready to claim that the first amendment does not apply to religious folks?

Where did you come up with that complete straw man? This isn't a first amendment issue since there is no legal prohibitions for churches speaking about whatever the heck they want, they just lose their special tax exempt privilege when they engage in the direct endorsement of political candidates/public policy prescriptions.

In other words if they want the same breadth of 1st Amendment protections that the rest of us enjoy they have to pay for said protections just like the rest of us do.

"This isn't a first amendment issue since there is no legal prohibitions for churches speaking about whatever the heck they want, they just lose their special tax exempt privilege when they engage in the direct endorsement of political candidates/public policy prescriptions.

Try to avoid sounding like a fool....or a Liberal.
Is that redundant?


Here is your reading test:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

So now I can yell"fire" in a crowded church?